Sulky Racing - It's their right

GalwayMagpie

Don't deny them their right to their unique culture, we should all be proud of them


http://www.prochan.com/view?p=0ab_1336318543


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Doom

Regardless of rights, causing a danger to others is wrong.

GalwayMagpie

Doom wrote: »

Regardless of rights, causing a danger to others is wrong.

Somehow I doubt the danger caused by this disgraceful behavior registers in their pea sized brains.

I also doubt any of the perpetrators will be arrested or prosecuted, but if a normal person was to try this.....

questionmark?

Culture??? The video you posted did not display culture.

I hope the Guards arrested the two of those idiots for risking innocent peoples lives and everyone that was following and driving illegally where brought to task and the ISPCA took the horses off them because this was cruel to the horses to be putting them in danger of death.

Cookie_Monster

sure they have every right, on their own land. You want to be on the road with everyone else, you follow the rules. Simples.
They should be shown no leniency at all and any suggestion made to AGS or Courts or papers that it's there cultural right should be taken as an attempt to pervert the course of justice and wasting police time.

GalwayMagpie

questionmark? wrote: »

Culture??? The video you posted did not display culture.

They claim it as part of their culture and therefore right to do so.

foggy_lad

GalwayMagpie wrote: »

They claim it as part of their culture and therefore right to do so.

They should all be castrated so they can't breed any more of their kind!

dmcronin

Can you get subtitles on aertel?

Corholio

GalwayMagpie wrote: »

Don't deny them their right to their unique culture, we should all be proud of them

It's unique because it's damn dangerous and idiotic.

Our man in Havana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd8Yi3xOAUI

Victor

GalwayMagpie wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Rc5JsMn0LRQ

Don't deny them their right to their unique culture, we should all be proud of them

I'm not sure that this has much to do with Commuting & Transport.

foggy_lad wrote: »

They should all be castrated so they can't breed any more of their kind!

Less with the bigotry / hatred / off-topicness.

scholar007

Victor wrote: »

I'm not sure that this has much to do with Commuting & Transport.
Less with the bigotry / hatred / off-topicness.

Well it is a very environmentally friendly way to travel if you ignore the rake of Hiaces behind the sulkies.

AlekSmart

foggy_lad wrote: »

They should all be castrated so they can't breed any more of their kind!

Presumably Foggy,in this context,is referring to the horses...

GalwayMagpie

Victor wrote: »

I'm not sure that this has much to do with Commuting & Transport.
Less with the bigotry / hatred / off-topicness.

Well, I did not want to feed the beast by putting into a Culture forum.
This has nothing to do with culture and all to do with a complete disregard for the Law, the rights and safety of road users, animal weflare etc.. but as we know Traveller rights supersede the rights of regular folk.

Will they be arrested...will they fook.

Traveller apologists like pavee point have ensued that this behavior will not be confronted as it is too much effort, and they have achieved this goal with state funding.

Hifiman

That video clip is truly frightening! It's a miracle that there wasn't someone killed. Jeeps and horses barrelling down a busy main route at high speeds on the wrong side of the road. The Gardai seemed to just give up and let them at it! Unbelievable!

Why isn't this on the front page of the papers today? What have the Road Safety Authority to say about this? (If it was a politician driving on the wrong side of the road Gay Byrne would be all over the media).
What have the Gardai Press authorities said about this? Have any arrests been made Do the Garda Traffic Corps even know about it? (They will when I send the link to the Garda Press Office and the Minister for Justice!)

Do we have to wait until a bus-load of school children or French tourists swerves and crashes to avoid these neanderthal knuckleheads?

GalwayMagpie

Well you could try these

The Traffic Corps: traffic_DS@garda.ie
Justice Minister: alan.shatter@oireachtas.ie

And just for sh1ts and giggles
Pavee Point: info@pavee.ie

lil5

Gardaí: Man arrested following YouTube harness race - Irish Examiner -
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gardai-man-arrested-following-youtube-harness-race-550767.html

"Gardaí have confirmed that a man in his 20s was arrested following a harness race on the main Cork to Mallow road which saw competitors weave dangerously into the path of oncoming traffic.

The incident, which took place on the morning of May 5, has garnered attention after footage was posted to the video-sharing site YouTube.
The footage wasapparently filmed by a member of the competitors' entourage travelling in a vehicle alongside.

It depicts the two harness racers - also known as sulky racers - repeatedly crossing into the path of oncoming traffic amid sustained attempts by a garda car to bring the proceedings to a halt.

Gardaí in Blarney said a male in his late 20s was arrested at the scene after the race and conveyed to Gurranabraher Garda Station in Cork
He was later released and the matter is currently under investigation."

Hifiman

lil5 wrote: »

Gardaí: Man arrested following YouTube harness race - Irish Examiner -
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gardai-man-arrested-following-youtube-harness-race-550767.html

"Gardaí have confirmed that a man in his 20s was arrested following a harness race on the main Cork to Mallow road which saw competitors weave dangerously into the path of oncoming traffic.

The incident, which took place on the morning of May 5, has garnered attention after footage was posted to the video-sharing site YouTube.
The footage wasapparently filmed by a member of the competitors' entourage travelling in a vehicle alongside.

It depicts the two harness racers - also known as sulky racers - repeatedly crossing into the path of oncoming traffic amid sustained attempts by a garda car to bring the proceedings to a halt.

Gardaí in Blarney said a male in his late 20s was arrested at the scene after the race and conveyed to Gurranabraher Garda Station in Cork
He was later released and the matter is currently under investigation."

I'd have expected more than just one to be arrested - let's hope the investigation follows through. Many of the cars' registrations were clearly visible on the video clip. If this sort of madness becomes a regular occurance - it's only a matter of time before some innocent drivers and their passengers are killed.

corktina

just for balance, I'd like to see Road Bowling outlawed too.

ps also cycle races on open roads.

n97 mini

I've never seen so many traffic violations in one place at the one time. Even the kid in the van with no seatbelt on.

foggy_lad

One of the entourage can be heard in the video calling the Gardai in the cari "Dirty Dangerous Basterds" !

dmcronin

corktina wrote: »

just for balance, I'd like to see Road Bowling outlawed too.

ps also cycle races on open roads.

Road Bowling: Don't see too much of that on Cork - Mallow road. I view it as a mild annoyance, they do put signs up where they're at it to give them their dues.

trellheim

The yt link is gone; anyone have a copy ?

GalwayMagpie

http://www.prochan.com/view?p=0ab_1336318543

Cookie_Monster

corktina wrote: »

just for balance, I'd like to see Road Bowling outlawed too.

ps also cycle races on open roads.

both organised events that go ahead with AGS permission in general, and with regards to cycle races and sportives, usually with a garda presence as well. Totally different.

corktina

unless a road is offically closed.as with a Rally for instance, the public road is not the place for any sport.

LLU

And they wonder why so many people hate them.

foggy_lad

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

both organised events that go ahead with AGS permission in general, and with regards to cycle races and sportives, usually with a garda presence as well. Totally different.

They are also fully covered with Public Liability Insurance which those in the video may have had but tis doubtful.

Victor

corktina wrote: »

unless a road is offically closed.as with a Rally for instance, the public road is not the place for any sport.

Kids playing football? Jogging? Hiking?

Hifiman

Well, I'm glad to see it finally made the RTE news. Took them a while!

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0509/one-arrested-over-cork-mallow-harness-race.html

parsi

Came across a Sulkie race just past the Dooradoyle exit on the motorway near Limerick last year. I lost no time in blowing my horn to express my dissatisfaction once a safe distance had been reached.

Run_to_da_hills

I could see nothing wrong with if it was regulated, Ie cooperate with the law and close off a portion of road for a couple of hours. If they do it with motorcycle road racing I couldn't see it a problem these.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0510/horse-road-racing.html

corktina

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I could see nothing wrong with if it was regulated, Ie cooperate with the law and close off a portion of road for a couple of hours. If they do it with motorcycle road racing I couldn't see it a problem these.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0510/horse-road-racing.html

thats my point in a nutshell, if it were done officially I'd have no objection provided that the welfare of the poor horses was looked after.

Hifiman

corktina wrote: »

thats my point in a nutshell, if it were done officially I'd have no objection provided that the welfare of the poor horses was looked after.

And I presume they'd pay the full cost of the policing operation, as other sporting organisations and concert promoters etc., are required to do?

foggy_lad

Hifiman wrote: »

And I presume they'd pay the full cost of the policing operation, as other sporting organisations and concert promoters etc., are required to do?

It could come out of the €30,000 prize fund!

Run_to_da_hills

foggy_lad wrote: »

It could come out of the €30,000 prize fund!

Like their bare knuckle boxing there is big money in these events, another thing I pointed out in AH is that travelers can be smart when they want to be. IE: They are well able to upload video footage and place it on UTube so I wonder how many of them are currently earwigging and participating on Boards,ie

spank_inferno

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I could see nothing wrong with if it was regulated, Ie cooperate with the law and close off a portion of road for a couple of hours. If they do it with motorcycle road racing I couldn't see it a problem these.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0510/horse-road-racing.html

Fine to a point.
Except that it is little other than cruel to race horses in this fashion on a hard road.

Going Forward

corktina wrote: »

unless a road is offically closed.as with a Rally for instance, the public road is not the place for any sport.

Horses should be banned from public roads in general as they are a nuisance and hazard.

Going Forward

parsi wrote: »

Came across a Sulkie race just past the Dooradoyle exit on the motorway near Limerick last year. I lost no time in blowing my horn to express my dissatisfaction once a safe distance had been reached.

they probably took it as a sound of encouragement!!

Going Forward

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Like their bare knuckle boxing there is big money in these events, another thing I pointed out in AH is that travelers can be smart when they want to be. IE: They are well able to upload video footage and place it on UTube so I wonder how many of them are currently earwigging and participating on Boards,ie

They lost my respect years ago, but are they not as entitled as anyone else to earwig and participate?

Run_to_da_hills

Going Forward wrote: »

They lost my respect years ago, but are they not as entitled as anyone else to earwig and participate?

I am sure they are and reporting the bad posts.

Victor

Going Forward wrote: »

Horses should be banned from public roads in general as they are a nuisance and hazard.

This could also be said of out motorised friends.

Hilly Bill

Whats the diffrence to this and harness racing or trotting as its called in some places? Is the track still there in Portmarnock where they used to do harness racing?

AlekSmart

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Whats the diffrence to this and harness racing or trotting as its called in some places? Is the track still there in Portmarnock where they used to do harness racing?

Not a lot AFAIK Hilly Bill,except that in places such as Portmarnock Raceway,the presence of ...erm...."culturally oppressive elements",such as DSPCA or,God forbid,Gardai,might make it impossible to fully enjoy a days racing for some folk....;)

Perhaps this lack of cultural understanding by mainstream Ireland forces these poor people into resorting to the only way they can of enjoying a days trotting ...?

Milan Cobian

the presence of ...erm...."culturally oppressive elements",such as DSPCA or,God forbid,Gardai,might make it impossible to fully enjoy a days racing for some folk....

Well the Gardai attended the youtubed cultural event and didn't appear to be oppressing either culture or road traffic offenses. Now imagine how the US or French police might have reacted to this...

Hilly Bill

Milan Cobian wrote: »

Well the Gardai attended the youtubed cultural event and didn't appear to be oppressing either culture or road traffic offenses. Now imagine how the US or French police might have reacted to this...

The right way .

foggy_lad

Milan Cobian wrote: »

Well the Gardai attended the youtubed cultural event and didn't appear to be oppressing either culture or road traffic offenses. Now imagine how the US or French police might have reacted to this...

Where were the Gardai going to get about 40 members together in riot gear to tackle a very large gang of people with little or no respect for the laws of the state? It would not be possible to get them all to the scene quickly enough to arrest these criminals and even if they somehow managed it they would all be released on very little bail a few hours later.

CIE

GalwayMagpie wrote: »

Don't deny them their right to their unique culture

What right is that? I don't see any such right enumerated anywhere.

vinylmatt

dmcronin

CIE wrote: »

What right is that? I don't see any such right enumerated anywhere.

Er, have you got your sarcasm detector switched on?

starhillroad

I wish they would exercise the one right they deserve, the right to remain silent.

And...one more, a one way trip in a cattle wagon to Poland, behind a nice Kriegslok 2-10-0 as fuel for the ESB.