Antisocial behaviour Perth

Cooperspale

Just read this on broadsheet, sounds serious.

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/05/08/notice-from-western-australia-police-–-irish-antisocial-behaviour-in-perth/#comments

Anyone on here a member of GAA club in Perth and got a similar email?

g5fd6ow0hseima

Absolutely no surprise whatsoever. Recently, I was in a hotel in a small town in Queensland - five hours inland from Brisbane - where I was personally told they don't rent rooms to Irish people (they made allowances for me because a contractor booked the room for me), and to add to that, one of the rental agencies in the town rent places to Irish either. Things like that speak for themselves so there's no point in me saying anything about the character of the Irish here in Australia, other than that I feel we aren't viewed in much different light to how the English are viewed on the continent.

Is it any wonder? No, not at all. Will it only get worse? Yes, of course.

mandrake04

We should have a sticky for all these things, Thread of Shame.

Xavi6

Good to see something being done about the small amount of arseholes acting the bollox here.

Dubnobass

Xavi6 wrote: »

Good to see something being done about the small amount of arseholes acting the bollox here.

But not so good to see that their behaviour could potentially make it even more difficult for people looking to head out there :rolleyes:

The Aussie

Choice comments under the story. Anyone know Nicholas Barron by chance, Hey Nick ive got a new name for you that rhymes with Nick, it might be easy to remember which in the over all scheme of things might be good, your parents thought ahead somewhat albeit 40 weeks to late.

"Nicholas Barron on May 8, 2012 at 10:09 am said: The Irish should just continue partying. If the Aussies don’t get it, they don’t it. So be it if a few Irish have to be deported. These are the times we live in, if the Aussies can handle a bit of Oirish, f*ck ‘em!
Nick – Sydney"

although this one i did agree with, had bit of a chuckle at it as well.

"I really should be working on May 8, 2012 at 10:35 am said:
God when the Aussies are commenting on your behaviour it must be bad."

I pity those of you who want to call Australia home after some of these tools have been and gone, but i actually pity the Irish who emigrated there in the 80's, like the blokes i worked with during my Apprenticeship, proper gentlemen who gave Ireland and the Irish a good name, a good name ruined by spoiled little knackers now.

CiaranC

****ing whinging Aussies, if you dont want thousands of partying kids in your country then stop handing out visas to attract them. I dont see the Aussies complaining about the millions they inject into the local economy without costing the state a penny in provided services.

mandrake04

Have to laugh at all these WHV clowns posting here that they can't find work in Perth, like really what employer would be stupid enough to employ any Irish people these days.

and in reply to another thread the other day..... why would a mining company give a $500,000 dump truck to someone on a WHV when they cant even be trusted with looking after a rental property?

The Aussie

CiaranC wrote: »

I dont see the Aussies complaining about the millions they inject into the local economy without costing the state a penny in provided services.

Is the of the Western Australian Police Force considered a service, their wasted time spent dealing with Tiger Cubs.

CiaranC wrote: »

****ing whinging Aussies,

Why do you even bother posting here anymore???

myhorse

I would be pretty certain that it is a hoax letter/no such letter exists. Looks complete bull to me.

CiaranC

The Aussie wrote: »

Why do you even bother posting here anymore???

Do I need permission from you to post? This is an Aus/NZ forum.

myhorse wrote:

I would be pretty certain that it is a hoax letter/no such letter exists. Looks complete bull to me.

If it was anywhere else maybe, but nothing ceases to amaze me in Australia. Slagging national/ethnic/racial groups is like a national pastime there.

jank

Tiger cubs make baby Jesus cry

chrispym

Haters gonna hate!

swordfisher

This doesnt surprise me one bit. The are so many scummy knackers from Ireland in Perth. It gives everyone else a bad name. Walk through Perth day or night and you'll see these dumbass inbred dirtbags with their shaved heads and knacker jewellery behaving like they have been just let out of the zoo.

myflipflops

People are talking like this is a new phenomenon.

When i was in college (1st year 10 years ago), going on a J1 visa to the States and wrecking apartments and generally be drunken messes for a summer was the thing to do. It was one of the reasons I never went on one myself, I didn't want to be associated.

Some of the behaviour I have seen in Melbourne has embarrassed me as an Irishman but little of it has surprised me.

Sundy

swordfisher wrote: »

This doesnt surprise me one bit. The are so many scummy knackers from Ireland in Perth. It gives everyone else a bad name. Wlak through Perth day or night and you'll see these dumbass inbred dirtbag with their shaved heads and knacker jewellery behaving like they have been just let out of the zoo.

along with the jewellery and haircut

Fintan o tooley

Have to agree with swordfish on his previous post. Most Irish that are over here fit exactly that same description. I came here for a years backpacking along with a mate who been here intermittantly over the last 10 years or so. He can't get over how much the attitude to the Irish has changed over the last few years. Back in the day he said all you had to do is speak to a aussie and you'd pull her and also everyone was so welcoming where as now were usually met with indifference.

To be honest you can't blame the Aussie's for feeling like this. Every paddy you meet seems to have some scam going. i.e here illegally, using fake ABN's fighting outside the pubs etc. Best one is where boys get rowdy cos their told to stop drinking after 20 pints 'shur I'm grand I'd drink twice as much at home'. The clowns seem to think that all the staff and owner would risk a massive fine so Paddy from 12,000 miles away can drink his brains out till he pukes on the floor 'har har'.

Another thing that bothers me is the general rowdyness of the Irish in the bars. I watch the Man City match the other night and had a lad sit near me shouting 'cúnts' 'fúcken Man City cúnts' as loud as he could over and over again. Of course he was so passionate about his football he missed about 25 minutes of the end of the match to have a fag break before one last 'fúcken cúnts' when he actually found out the score was

Probably the best bit is the amount of lads earning 1200-1500 a week and have to borrow money left right and centre cos they have no money left from the previous week. Now I know it's an expensive country but at least 600 of that is drank in the Cock and Bull thurs/fri/sat/sun. Jesus do they not have any memory of why they left Ireland in the first place. The boom here cannot go on forever.

I'm only here 5 months and I've travelled a bit but I'm so put off by the Irish here that I'm just going to work for a couple more months and then travel on. Don't get me wrong it's a lovely country and I know a lot of respectable irish over here but everywhere seem's to be overrun with the small town chain necklace wearing skanger

hussey

CiaranC wrote: »

****ing whinging Aussies.

Mod Please stop trolling, coming on to a forum full of Aussies you should know what kind of reaction you will get from that statement.

Sundy

Fintan o tooley wrote: »

Have to agree with swordfish on his previous post. Most Irish that are over here fit exactly that same description. I came here for a years backpacking along with a mate who been here intermittantly over the last 10 years or so. He can't get over how much the attitude to the Irish has changed over the last few years. Back in the day he said all you had to do is speak to a aussie and you'd pull her and also everyone was so welcoming where as now were usually met with indifference.

To be honest you can't blame the Aussie's for feeling like this. Every paddy you meet seems to have some scam going. i.e here illegally, using fake ABN's fighting outside the pubs etc. Best one is where boys get rowdy cos their told to stop drinking after 20 pints 'shur I'm grand I'd drink twice as much at home'. The clowns seem to think that all the staff and owner would risk a massive fine so Paddy from 12,000 miles away can drink his brains out till he pukes on the floor 'har har'.

Another thing that bothers me is the general rowdyness of the Irish in the bars. I watch the Man City match the other night and had a lad sit near me shouting 'cúnts' 'fúcken Man City cúnts' as loud as he could over and over again. Of course he was so passionate about his football he missed about 25 minutes of the end of the match to have a fag break before one last 'fúcken cúnts' when he actually found out the score was

Probably the best bit is the amount of lads earning 1200-1500 a week and have to borrow money left right and centre cos they have no money left from the previous week. Now I know it's an expensive country but at least 600 of that is drank in the Cock and Bull thurs/fri/sat/sun. Jesus do they not have any memory of why they left Ireland in the first place. The boom here cannot go on forever.

I'm only here 5 months and I've travelled a bit but I'm so put off by the Irish here that I'm just going to work for a couple more months and then travel on. Don't get me wrong it's a lovely country and I know a lot of respectable irish over here but everywhere seem's to be overrun with the small town chain necklace wearing skanger

The type of behaviour you describe seems to be concentrated to Northbridge in Perth.
We live a bit out in the burbs and the locals generally all seem to like us. ie in the local pub/shops/neighbours.

Frisbee

Fintan o tooley wrote: »

Have to agree with swordfish on his previous post. Most Irish that are over here fit exactly that same description. I came here for a years backpacking along with a mate who been here intermittantly over the last 10 years or so. He can't get over how much the attitude to the Irish has changed over the last few years. Back in the day he said all you had to do is speak to a aussie and you'd pull her and also everyone was so welcoming where as now were usually met with indifference.

To be honest you can't blame the Aussie's for feeling like this. Every paddy you meet seems to have some scam going. i.e here illegally, using fake ABN's fighting outside the pubs etc. Best one is where boys get rowdy cos their told to stop drinking after 20 pints 'shur I'm grand I'd drink twice as much at home'. The clowns seem to think that all the staff and owner would risk a massive fine so Paddy from 12,000 miles away can drink his brains out till he pukes on the floor 'har har'.

Another thing that bothers me is the general rowdyness of the Irish in the bars. I watch the Man City match the other night and had a lad sit near me shouting 'cúnts' 'fúcken Man City cúnts' as loud as he could over and over again. Of course he was so passionate about his football he missed about 25 minutes of the end of the match to have a fag break before one last 'fúcken cúnts' when he actually found out the score was

Probably the best bit is the amount of lads earning 1200-1500 a week and have to borrow money left right and centre cos they have no money left from the previous week. Now I know it's an expensive country but at least 600 of that is drank in the Cock and Bull thurs/fri/sat/sun. Jesus do they not have any memory of why they left Ireland in the first place. The boom here cannot go on forever.

I'm only here 5 months and I've travelled a bit but I'm so put off by the Irish here that I'm just going to work for a couple more months and then travel on. Don't get me wrong it's a lovely country and I know a lot of respectable irish over here but everywhere seem's to be overrun with the small town chain necklace wearing skanger

Great post. I lived near Northbridge in Perth and it seemed to attract the lowest common denominator of Irish people, I generally tried to avoid it.

I actually live quote near to the Cock & Bull in Sydney now, been here over two months and I haven't even gone as I've seen the type of morons it attracts if I'm on late shift in work and coming home at night.

mandrake04

Fintan o tooley wrote: »

Have to agree with swordfish on his previous post. Most Irish that are over here fit exactly that same description. I came here for a years backpacking along with a mate who been here intermittantly over the last 10 years or so. He can't get over how much the attitude to the Irish has changed over the last few years. Back in the day he said all you had to do is speak to a aussie and you'd pull her and also everyone was so welcoming where as now were usually met with indifference.

To be honest you can't blame the Aussie's for feeling like this. Every paddy you meet seems to have some scam going. i.e here illegally, using fake ABN's fighting outside the pubs etc. Best one is where boys get rowdy cos their told to stop drinking after 20 pints 'shur I'm grand I'd drink twice as much at home'. The clowns seem to think that all the staff and owner would risk a massive fine so Paddy from 12,000 miles away can drink his brains out till he pukes on the floor 'har har'.

Another thing that bothers me is the general rowdyness of the Irish in the bars. I watch the Man City match the other night and had a lad sit near me shouting 'cúnts' 'fúcken Man City cúnts' as loud as he could over and over again. Of course he was so passionate about his football he missed about 25 minutes of the end of the match to have a fag break before one last 'fúcken cúnts' when he actually found out the score was

Probably the best bit is the amount of lads earning 1200-1500 a week and have to borrow money left right and centre cos they have no money left from the previous week. Now I know it's an expensive country but at least 600 of that is drank in the Cock and Bull thurs/fri/sat/sun. Jesus do they not have any memory of why they left Ireland in the first place. The boom here cannot go on forever.

I'm only here 5 months and I've travelled a bit but I'm so put off by the Irish here that I'm just going to work for a couple more months and then travel on. Don't get me wrong it's a lovely country and I know a lot of respectable irish over here but everywhere seem's to be overrun with the small town chain necklace wearing skanger

There are probably only a few of us here agree with you, but unfortunately some of the posters on here wear this behaviour as a badge of honor. Then the blame the locals as being Anti-Irish and everything else.

Really when you are the guest in someone else country you shouldn't be behaving like that, I reckon it time for a 2500 or 5000 limit on WHV like Canada.

mandrake04

Frisbee wrote: »

Great post. I lived near Northbridge in Perth and it seemed to attract the lowest common denominator of Irish people, I generally tried to avoid it.

I actually live quote near to the Cock & Bull in Sydney now, been here over two months and I haven't even gone as I've seen the type of morons it attracts if I'm on late shift in work and coming home at night.

Best thing I ever did was get out of Eastern suburbs, there was 12 us moved to the innerwest and 9 of are still here a either PR or Citizens. If we stayed in the Eastern suburbs at best there would have only been 2 or 3.

The Aussie

CiaranC wrote: »

I dont see the Aussies complaining about the millions they inject into the local economy without costing the state a penny in provided services.

Ok you dodged the question the first time so i will try again,
Do you think the time of the State Police Forces is a provided service?
Do you think the time of the Doctors and Nurses is a provided service who have to stitch these idiots back together?
Do you think the time of the Council Staff who have to clean up their mess after they done everything except use a bin is a provided service?

I could go on and on but the fact is the the net Economic and Social gain from hosting these Scum in Australia is negligible.

Awaiting you next Pearl...

Pisco Sour

These people are morons who give the rest of us a bad name. It amazes me how many people waste a once in a lifetime visa to just drink their brains out, and not see anywhere in this country at all. Earning good money and drinking it away. Getting into fights for no reason, waking up the next morning and remembering nothing, turning up to work drunk and thinking it is funny, and worst of all, wearing those hideous GAA jerseys.

However, I do not like the belittling of the WHV, and I have noticed certain posters here looking down on it on many occasions now. Firstly, just because you are on a sponsored visa doesn’t mean you are better than us, so get down off that high horse. The vast majority of WHV holders do NOT carry on like these people. There are people from all over the world holding WHVs, not just Irish people. I have never seen a German, French, Italian, Norwegian, Swede carry on like that, and they come to Australia in their droves like the Irish do, so no, they should not have a quota of WHVs holders just so your precious selves can enjoy some peace. Deport the muppets yes, but don’t punish the vast majority of good people because of these clowns.

And please stop referring to the WHV as a holiday. Many people come over here on it for more than just a holiday, to gain work experience for when they go back home, or to possibly get sponsored.

mandrake04

04072511 wrote: »

And please stop referring to the WHV as a holiday. Many people come over here on it for more than just a holiday, to gain work experience for when they go back home, or to possibly get sponsored.

Yeah you are absolutely right, its a Visitor visa see....

supp

We've just come to accept the drunken Irish in Melbourne. You are all welcome here!

catbear

A local asked me what was the story with the young Irish and drink. I can't say here what his job is but he told me of one young Irish who was turned around at the airport for being drunk beyond belief.

Monty Burnz

Xavi6 wrote: »

Good to see something being done about the small amount of arseholes acting the bollox here.

If it's a small amount, then why the blanket rule?

It's probably a 'small amount' in the same way that a 'small amount' of Travellers cause problems in Ireland... :rolleyes:

markymark21

supp wrote: »

We've just come to accept the drunken Irish in Melbourne. You are all welcome here!

Ha just as long as they stay in their ghetto (carlisle/barkley street in St Kilda)

catbear

From the WAtoday site:

“It is clear that there are some significant differences in the policing of licensed premises in Australia to those in Ireland,” Insp. Steel said.

The letter was no hoax.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/13646213/police-concern-over-backpacker-behaviour/

seachto7

Sundy wrote: »

along with the jewellery and haircut

Brilliant!!! That is EXACTLY what they are like. STick out a mile. But they also wear those snow white trainers with no laces, kind of look like a sock.... I f**king hate those trainers!!!

seachto7

The way I see it is you have loads of lads, and lassies, who are thick ignorant white trash chavs who would only have been good enough for grunt work on a building site or a factory line in Ireland. (No disrespect to the normal people doing well at these jobs in Ireland or elsewhere)

There is zero building work in Ireland, so where do they go? Australia. These people probably would never have gone to the sun in their lives only on a package holiday deal for 2 weeks maybe in the summer. So they have to emigrate for work. Get a WHV. Go to an English speaking country as the idea of going to a non English speaking country for more than a 2 week package holiday would be alien to them.

They find themselves making a ball of money in Aus, and do the same thing they would do in Spain or Cyprus.
As the saying goes, "you can take the man out of the bog, but you can't take the bog out of the man". Replace "bog" with town or suburb name of your choice....

It's kind of like a load of bogans having to come to Ireland for work........

jackbhoy

seachto7 wrote: »

The way I see it is you have loads of lads, and lassies, who are thick ignorant white trash chavs who would only have been good enough for grunt work on a building site or a factory line in Ireland. (No disrespect to the normal people doing well at these jobs in Ireland or elsewhere)

Saying "no disrespect" after making insulting remarks about a whole sector of the workforce does not negate your ridiculous comments! I mean saying "only good enough" to work on a building site etc just shows your own inate snobishness. I don't work in either sector myself but I'd hold people who get off their arse and do any job way above people who are too lazy, or sit on their arses and draw the dole any day.

catbear

Credit must be given to those who get off their ass and get over here, especially when they'd rather be at home but can't stay any longer for lack of work.
However I have met a few young guys on their whv and they are pissing away the experience. They may as well have stayed at home on the dole. They have no real interest in being here and resent that fact that there's no work at home. They'll grow up I guess but damn when I left school in 89 there was 20% unemployment at home and zero chance of saving a wedge to get out to Australia. (the airfares were horrendously expensive) It just annoys me to see them waste an opportunity that they might not get again.
travel can't broaden a closed mind.

mandrake04

This thread is like Coming to Australia? Don't leave your manners at home Mark II

Pisco Sour

I agree there is a bit of snobbiness on these boards from time to time from Irish people here on PR or 457's towards people on working holiday visas, almost like they are above us or something. I've noticed it from a select few posters for quite awhile now, but said nothing. It irks me a bit.

That is all seperate to the main discussion here, and I 100% agree with pretty much everything that has been said about these scangers/chavs/whatever you want to call them.

kippy

myhorse wrote: »

I would be pretty certain that it is a hoax letter/no such letter exists. Looks complete bull to me.

Completely above board ( you've probably been told this already).

Zico

This is nothing new with the Irish abroad, it's just the muppetts who made it impossible to enjoy a holiday in Spain 10 years ago have now made it to Oz in numbers.

I was in Perth 7 years ago and the Irish had a great rep. the clowns who are ruining it should have their passports revoked.

seachto7

jackbhoy wrote: »

Saying "no disrespect" after making insulting remarks about a whole sector of the workforce does not negate your ridiculous comments! I mean saying "only good enough" to work on a building site etc just shows your own inate snobishness. I don't work in either sector myself but I'd hold people who get off their arse and do any job way above people who are too lazy, or sit on their arses and draw the dole any day.

Yup, I was out of order. I have met many pig ignorant f*ckheads in my time, and met a lot more on building sites. I'm not talking about skilled tradesmen, but grunts. Lads who were fit for feck all else, only grunt work. They wouldn't have had the vision or cop on to venture to the other side of the world in days gone by.....
Zico summed it up, that these were the crowd who ruined holidays to Spain years ago.
Plenty of Irish in NY, Toronto, San Fran, Paris, London. Why don't we hear the same types of stories. Different type of person going to these places? Or are we just not used to sunshine for long periods of time!:)

Ash.J.Williams

The Aussie wrote: »

Ok you dodged the question the first time so i will try again,
Do you think the time of the State Police Forces is a provided service?
Do you think the time of the Doctors and Nurses is a provided service who have to stitch these idiots back together?
Do you think the time of the Council Staff who have to clean up their mess after they done everything except use a bin is a provided service?

I could go on and on but the fact is the the net Economic and Social gain from hosting these Scum in Australia is negligible.

Awaiting you next Pearl...

You've hit the nail on the head there! The irish government still accept it as normal, that our hospitals are overrun with drunks every weekend!! Remove the drunks from irish A&E's and we would have a very different health system!

Zico

It's unfair to categorise labourers as being the ones who behave badly. I've come across plenty of white collar 'arseholes on tour'. Some people are just idiots and unfortunately when you get enough of them together they will cause chaos.

(It's also wrong to assume that someone labouring on a building site is some pre-leaving cert drop out. I know people with excellent qualifications who do a bit on their travels as a way of making quick cash.)

dmcronin

Don't know whether or not I should be relieved that the a**holes have left this country. I do pity the Aussies having to put up with them tho.

danotroy

In my experience I feel that what the majority of the back packing Irish do is rock up to St.Kilda where we set up camp near hundreds of other Irish. Then through a natural selection process we choose our new irish friends here in oz and proceed to get blind drunk for a period of time in and around St.Kilda. after a good few months of this a nice big gang has amassed and they feel ready to move onto the next suburb on night out in a large group, usually overly aggressive and overly full up.
It may seem im looking down my nose at these people but I just feel people should get out and have a proper experience down here at the very least go and meet some backpackers from countries that don’t speak English. Even try and make some aussie friends ! in general they love us.

But ive gotten asked many times what is it with that bunch of Irish down in St.Kilda I simply have to reply there just our equivalent of bogans which I feel is a huge over generalisation. Its just an Irish thing to get trapped having the craic with other irish.

seachto7

Zico wrote: »

It's unfair to categorise labourers as being the ones who behave badly. I've come across plenty of white collar 'arseholes on tour'. Some people are just idiots and unfortunately when you get enough of them together they will cause chaos.

(It's also wrong to assume that someone labouring on a building site is some pre-leaving cert drop out. I know people with excellent qualifications who do a bit on their travels as a way of making quick cash.)

Yes, I am out of order singling out labourers, but lets face it, most of them have high tailed it to Aus, and more power to them for making the $$$ while it's going. Just talking from my own experience. I knew lots of them growing up who were just plain thick, and due to being in the right place at the right time, made a load during the Tiger. Even while they were loaded, they were still pig ignorant.

I met many of them in Aus as well, half of them just arrived in Sydney, and are still there, no travelling done, nothing, just work, drink, work, drink...

But as you say, people from all walks of life acting the good in Aus. Rugby jocks are another crowd that act like a bunch of pr*cks when they are out in groups. This seems to be universal as well, not just Irish.

seachto7

Zico wrote: »

(It's also wrong to assume that someone labouring on a building site is some pre-leaving cert drop out. I know people with excellent qualifications who do a bit on their travels as a way of making quick cash.)

I am not saying they are all drop outs or thick, but there are a lot of them in it. Same as I meet a lot of complete bullsh*t chancers in online marketing who make huge money and know nothing in reality, just bullsh*tters....
But they head off to Aus, they are still thick f**kers.....

hussey

mod just to be clear, this is about anti social behaviour in Perth, this could be ANYONE from accountants, doctors to miners. Do not assume the professions. Let's not make any sweeping generalisations and I won't tolerate any insults towards others. If anyone has any problems please use the report post button on LHS. Thanks.

Richard Hillman

Its quite accessible now a days to get to Australia for people who wouldnt be adhered to foreign travel outside the usual "Ladz ona mad wan" sun holidays. Ive only copped on recently that these people have "going away partys" to raise funds for these trips. I was quite naive in thinking that they were genuine going away partys instead of a fund raising exercise. Even some of the lads that used to hang around housing estates causing havok in my area are over there now.

CiaranC

Is there an Aussie version of Joe Duffy you can all get on to?

Zambia

Darren Hinch, 3AW

markymark21

Why don't the police just operate a zero tolerance approach and just depot these clowns?

mandrake04

markymark21 wrote: »

Why don't the police just operate a zero tolerance approach and just depot these clowns?

Police can't deport them, they can only hand them over to DIAC who can only deport them if they don't have a visa.

You can have your visa cancelled but this requires Ministerial authorisation.