Players to watch

DubPerryman

Just wondering if anyone is keeping an eye out for any particular players in our youth set-up?

Obviously I read the articles put up on the website and enjoyed what was on show when watching the videos from the NextGen tournament.

Though, has anyone been to many of the reserve/youth team games? Has anyone in particular stood out for you?

I hope Suly Coubilay gets a run out in the League Cup next year. Hopefully Adam Smith can add some depth to the squad. Will Harry Kane make it in the Premier League?

Or is this whole thread a waste of time because Harry will be our manager next season and he has no intention of using more than 15 players.

Hatch99

DubPerryman wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone is keeping an eye out for any particular players in our youth set-up?

Obviously I read the articles put up on the website and enjoyed what was on show when watching the videos from the NextGen tournament.

Though, has anyone been to many of the reserve/youth team games? Has anyone in particular stood out for you?

I hope Suly Coubilay gets a run out in the League Cup next year. Hopefully Adam Smith can add some depth to the squad. Will Harry Kane make it in the Premier League?

Or is this whole thread a waste of time because Harry will be our manager next season and he has no intention of using more than 15 players.

I thought Luongo was quality when I saw him against liverpool in the next gen. Hopefully a couple break through and we see them in them appearing for the first team in league cup games etc.. next season. Im not too sure about Kane, has he found his level with Millwall, in saying that, he's still very young.

Although your last line could well be what the future holds..

DubPerryman

Hatch99 wrote: »

Hopefully a couple break through and we see them in them appearing for the first team in league cup games etc.. next season.

I would definitely like to see more synergy between our 'first team' and our 'league cup' team next season.

If you mention 'squad rotation' to Harry, we will bring up the point that a whole different team played in the Europa Cup/League Cup. But I don't think that did anything to positively motivate the players.

A player who shines while playing in the League Cup should be rewarded with a run-out in the first team the following match. I think you'd see the performance of the young players really improving, you'd see team spirit improving and thus you'd see our performance each tournament improving.

WHL

I think that Kane's progression at Millwall is positive and think that a young hungry decent striker alongside three big names would be good.
I also agree with the comments about squad rotation. Does everybody remember the comments about our squad depth at the start of season. We supposedly had the best substitute bench in the league. These claims died down as the season went on and most were not used. How much of the recent drop in form could be attributed to tiredness

DubPerryman

WHL wrote: »

How much of the recent drop in form could be attributed to tiredness

It's not just tiredness, it's also motivation. If a player isn't at risk of losing his place, then his performance will naturally drop.

Harry needs to realise this if he's going to stay - or else next season, like this season and the season before that, we will drop a lot of points in the last ten matches.

mickman

DubPerryman wrote: »

It's not just tiredness, it's also motivation. If a player isn't at risk of losing his place, then his performance will naturally drop.

Harry needs to realise this if he's going to stay - or else next season, like this season and the season before that, we will drop a lot of points in the last ten matches.

what about parker, was rested and now cant get back in the team

DubPerryman

mickman wrote: »

what about parker, was rested and now cant get back in the team

What about him?

If anything, I think what your saying supports my point. Harry was forced to 'rest' Parker (due to his achilles) and as a result of that, Sandro has come in and is playing out of his skin to keep his place.

DubPerryman

Guys, not sure if you follow the Cartilage Free Captain Spurs blog site. Anyway, one of the authors is doing a run down of the 20 best young players currently plying their trade at The Lane.

The only rules to the list are - the player must be under 21 and he can't have played too many games for the first team. These rules mean the likes of Caulker (too many games), Livermore (too many game and over 21) and Falque (over 21) will not be on the list.

He's putting a new one up each day, so I will update it here.

It's one guy's opinion, though it will give good information about the youth players. He's starting at number 20 and working his way up.

At the time of writing this post he's at number 18.

DubPerryman

Number 20 - Tomislav Gomelt

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/3/4391168/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-20-tomislav-gomelt

DubPerryman

Number 19 - Laste Dombaxe

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/4/4396134/tottenham-spurs-youth-academy-prospect-laste-dombaxe

DubPerryman

Number 18 - Jordan Archer

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/5/4396270/tottenham-hotspuryouth-academy-rankings-jordan-archer?

Hatch99

great stuff good man

DubPerryman

Number 17 - Cameron Lancaster

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/6/4400480/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-youth-academy-cameron-lancaster

DubPerryman

Number 16 - Zeki Fryers

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/10/4414318/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-16-ezekiel-fryers

They could have got a picture of him in a Spurs jersey!!

DubPerryman

Number 15 - Giancarlo Gallifuoco

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/10/4416084/tottenham-hotspur-youth-academy-giancarlo-gallifuoco

DubPerryman

Number 14 - Grant Hall

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/11/4418460/tottenham-hotspur-youth-academy-grant-hall

DubPerryman

Number 13 - Souleymane Coulibaly

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/12/4423578/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-souleymane-coulibaly

DubPerryman

Number 12 - Ryan Mason

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/13/4426860/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-ryan-mason

DubPerryman

Number 11 - Kenneth McEvoy

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/14/4428556/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-kenneth-mcevoy?


I think some of the write ups so far have been a bit harsh, maybe too honest. Though I'm happy Kenny McEvoy got a good write up. He looks good any time I've seen him. He reminds be of a young Damien Duff. Hopefully he can have a similar club and international career.

DubPerryman

Number 10 - Cristian Ceballos

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/17/4438132/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-cristian-ceballos


If you don't know much about Ceballos, you'll see from this video that he is A LOT like Michu...

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/15/4433310/this-cristian-ceballos-video-is-awesome

DubPerryman

Number 9 - Massimo Luongo

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/18/4441324/tottenham-spurs-prospect-rankings-massimo-luongo-youth-academy

DubPerryman

Number 8 - Shaquile Coulthirst

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/19/4445244/tottenham-spurs-prospect-rankings-shaquile-coulthirst-academy-youth

DubPerryman

Number 7 - Harry Kane

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/20/4448158/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-harry-kane-youth-academy-spurs

DubPerryman

Number 6 - Nabil Bentaleb

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/25/4461054/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-youth-academy-nabil-bentaleb

DubPerryman

Number 5 - Adam Smith

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/25/4463118/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-adam-smith


I personally would have had this guy in the top two.

everdead.ie

DubPerryman wrote: »

Number 5 - Adam Smith

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/25/4463118/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-adam-smith


I personally would have had this guy in the top two.

Age probably working against him Pritchard I reckon will be first.... trying to think of others that haven't been mentioned that would be top 5.
The 16 year old defender MILOS VELJKOVIC from Basel who's been playing u-21s for the last couple years.

DubPerryman

everdead.ie wrote: »

The 16 year old defender MILOS VELJKOVIC from Basel who's been playing u-21s for the last couple years.

Great shout!

DubPerryman

Number 4 - Milos Veljkovic

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/26/4462998/tottenham-prospect-rankings-6-milos-veljkovic?

DubPerryman

I can only imagine the top two are Carroll (if he qualifies) and Pritchard. I'm struggling to work out number 3??

Roman Michael-Percil? He played well in the NextGen, but wasn't an automatic starter...

Ryan Fredericks? Decent RB/RW, but not better than Adam Smith.

Surely not Andros Townsend, I doubt he qualifies.

everdead.ie

DubPerryman wrote: »

Great shout!

I'm struggling to think of anyone else though apart from pritchard in the top 3 if we aren't including townsend, Caulker and Carroll.

irishmover

DubPerryman wrote: »

Guys, not sure if you follow the Cartilage Free Captain Spurs blog site. Anyway, one of the authors is doing a run down of the 20 best young players currently plying their trade at The Lane.

The only rules to the list are - the player must be under 21 and he can't have played too many games for the first team. These rules mean the likes of Caulker (too many games), Livermore (too many game and over 21) and Falque (over 21) will not be on the list.

He's putting a new one up each day, so I will update it here.

It's one guy's opinion, though it will give good information about the youth players. He's starting at number 20 and working his way up.

At the time of writing this post he's at number 18.

Adam Smith is 22...

DubPerryman

irishmover wrote: »

Adam Smith is 22...

Maybe the player has to be 21 at the start of the 12/13 season? Thus, eligible for the U-21s. I'm clutching at straws, it's not my list.

DubPerryman

Number 3 - Alex Pritchard

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/26/4467104/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-youth-academy-alex-pritchard

everdead.ie

irishmover wrote: »

Adam Smith is 22...

Those quotes were taken directly from the article though I remember reading them as well so we should assume that the three mentioned aren't on the List.

However everyone knows Carroll so he must be number one if Pritchard is third but who's second?

DubPerryman

everdead.ie wrote: »

However everyone knows Carroll so he must be number one if Pritchard is third but who's second?

I can only imagine it's Andros Townsend. He's 21 and has only been capped five times for us.

irishmover

DubPerryman wrote: »

Maybe the player has to be 21 at the start of the 12/13 season? Thus, eligible for the U-21s. I'm clutching at straws, it's not my list.

Yeh sorry I know you were only quoting and it's not you writing it. I was in a rush and just posted the one liner..

Maybe that is why he's on it as he was 21 at the start of the season...

everdead.ie

DubPerryman wrote: »

I can only imagine it's Andros Townsend. He's 21 and has only been capped five times for us.

Must be Townsend and Carroll I guess but I thought both were pretty high profile to be honest didn't think they would be included in this list.

DubPerryman

Number 2 - Andros Townsend

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/27/4471006/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-youth-academy-andros-townsend

DubPerryman

Number 1 - Tom Carroll

Unfortunately it's a bit of an odd write up...

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/28/4475692/tom-carroll-tottenham-hotspur

Leinstersqspur

DubPerryman wrote: »

Number 1 - Tom Carroll

Unfortunately it's a bit of an odd write up...

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/28/4475692/tom-carroll-tottenham-hotspur

I was enjoying all these but what a bizarre write up on Carroll. Lazy.

DubPerryman

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23144892?

Massimo Luongo (No.9) and Grant Hall (No.14) to Swindon on loan.

2nd Row Donkey

What a shocking write-up about Carroll. Talk about an anti-climax.

DubPerryman

A scouting report on Harry Kane (Number 7)


http://www.spurs-web.com/spurs-news/scouting-potential-tottenham-strikers-harry-kane/?

DubPerryman

Nathan Byrne to Swindon (permanent)

Alex Pritchard to Swindon (year long loan)


http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/swindon-switch-090713/

irishmover

@AddictedtoSpurs: Stat: 71.7% of Tom Carroll's passing went forward last season, with only 28.3% going backwards. #THFC

DubPerryman

http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7515448

For all the talk of our buying this or that superstar, I also have real interest as to what and who AVB will look to add to our squad from the younger generation of players, which I believe is very much part of his remit.

With the returning Danny Rose, Andros Townsend and Tom Carroll, Steven Caulker and Jake Livermore, we potentially have some very decent young players emerging from our youth section and all are potentially useful squad players, who may well become valued and essential individuals over a long season. Of course the further isn't certain over several of them, either because they might yet get squeezed out or perhaps become impatient for their own development, but if we look a little deeper, is there any other players that could be a surprise squad participant this season?

To a degree, it has always surprised me that Ryan Mason hasn't made the impact that his early promise showed. He has bags of technical ability and vision, but injury, bad luck, and perhaps a slight loss of focus has hampered his development, but without games, can he really be judged in a negative way, and I feel he might just be a player that AVB quite likes the look of. Sure he didn't play a minute in France, but was that about a lack of ability or about politics between chairman and coach?

in a summer where there is talk of spending big, there will also be an inevitable need to generate funds and if we can get decent renumeration for the likes of Naughton, Dempsey and a few more, you feel we will be wise to take the money, but of course we have to consider the cost of replacing them and also whether there is a suitable youngster ready to step in. At right full back, we have a very capable young man in Adam Smith, who has a nice mix of attack minded and also is defensively sound. He does have the ability to play on the left, but with Danny Rose, will we need that versatility. Sell Naughton for £4m+ and we are in profit without spending a penny.

As for Dempsey, is he a player that has the quality and experience to make him a sensible keep or in Holtby, Sigurdsson and perhaps another new face have we enough quality to make his departure sensible, especially if we can get our money back? Much hype has rightly been put on the shoulders of Alex Pritchard, but what of another youngster in Cristian Ceballos, whilst we could also have Andros Townsend to operate in wider attacking areas. Ceballos, is a player of superb technical play and is easily capable of operating in a number of systems, whilst playing left, right or central behind or around a striker. Is he, Like Pritchard, ideally suited to our developing style and in turn will save us a fortune one way or another?

getting the balance between developing players with loans and giving them training and game time with the senior squad will be a difficult one for AVB, but as well as the likes of Mason, Cabellos, Smaith and one or two others, could we be surprised to see someone like Nabil Bentaleb get a chance this season. another left footer, but another technically excellent player, who has size to go with that technique, but also has genuine ability in central midfield and also has an eye for goal. perhaps a long shot, but it really wouldn't surprise me to see him or someone in a similar stage opt development being given a chance to prove themselves and actually proving to be a great gamble.

Looking at the list of youngsters on our books with similar quality, there are plenty of players with genuine potential, but I do feel that we will see one or more players being treated in much the same way as Carroll was last season in being dipped in and out of the side in a non pressurised way and who knows we could have a diamond or two just waiting to be given the chance. As for the names I have mentioned, they all played some part in Saturday's opening friendly against Brentford, so I am a an extent taking the easy options, but for you, who is most likely be the breakthrough player of those who have yet to make an impression in the Spurs first team?..

DubPerryman

The new crop of youngsters have a test against Kingstonian tonight;

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/chris-on-kingstonian-test-170713/

These lads will be the ones to represent us in the NexGen going forward and some may move on to represent the U-21s this season.

DubPerryman

4-0 to Spurs XI

Kenny McEvoy with an early goal!

http://www.spursodyssey.com/1314/ki180713.html?

DubPerryman

DubPerryman wrote: »

4-0 to Spurs XI

Kenny McEvoy with an early goal!

http://www.spursodyssey.com/1314/ki180713.html?

Official report - http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/kingstonian-friendly-180713/

DubPerryman

I'll be watching Spurs Reserves (aka Swindon Town) with a close eye this season....

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2013/july/mason-to-town/


That's their third loanee from us this season.

Pure Sound

DubPerryman wrote: »

I'll be watching Spurs Reserves (aka Swindon Town) with a close eye this season....

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2013/july/mason-to-town/


That's their third loanee from us this season.

It seems to be four tottenham players on loan to them, Grant Hall, Massimo Luongo, Ryan Mason and Alex Pritchard. Add to that there are two former youth players in Troy Archibald Henville and Nathan Byrne.

Does anyone know what the link is between the two clubs?