Chargers Thread

Molly

Outclassed for 3/4 of the game yesterday. Broncos definitely were the better team. Addae has been a great find, Allen had a great 4th quarter. Some bad drops by both sides (Green, Gates for Chargers, Julius Thomas for the Broncos). Can't believe a 3rd and 17 was given up to end the game, would have been around 3:30 left to play with 2 timeouts I don't know why they persisted with the running game when Matthews was so hobbled, it seemed like there was no plan B and it was known all week that it was going to be needed.

As an aside, I was impressed with Balls turn around from his early season fumbling.

TO.

I apologise to everyone in this thread for derailing the thread. And JRG I am sorry for attacking you and not your post it was uncalled for. Next time will refrain from the personal stuff and take on your post and discuss it.

Jolly Red Giant

I enjoyed the game and felt it was a good battle.

The game pretty much went as I expected. The Broncos brought the right approach. I was impressed with how the Bolts defence hung in and keep the Chargers in the game. Despite criticism from me earlier I was impressed by Wright and it looks like he has the potential to be a good player in the NFL.

I think the Broncos were more comfortable than the final result (and the 4th qtr) indicates. The Chargers go the luck of the bounce on a number of occasions during the game (the INT, the penalty by Bolden on the return, the on-side kick etc). I also think that the game exposed Rivers somewhat as a QB - some one who is easily rattled and blows hot and cold.

Saying that the Chargers deserve credit for their five game streak to make the divisional play-off and are an improving team. I think they are better and have more potential than KC and an improving Chargers will improve the entire AFC West. Looking forward to next season's games.

P.S. I acknowledge the response of T.O.

Leslie91

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

I enjoyed the game and felt it was a good battle.

The game pretty much went as I expected. The Broncos brought the right approach. I was impressed with how the Bolts defence hung in and keep the Chargers in the game. Despite criticism from me earlier I was impressed by Wright and it looks like he has the potential to be a good player in the NFL.

I think the Broncos were more comfortable than the final result (and the 4th qtr) indicates. The Chargers go the luck of the bounce on a number of occasions during the game (the INT, the penalty by Bolden on the return, the on-side kick etc). I also think that the game exposed Rivers somewhat as a QB - some one who is easily rattled and blows hot and cold.

Saying that the Chargers deserve credit for their five game streak to make the divisional play-off and are an improving team. I think they are better and have more potential than KC and an improving Chargers will improve the entire AFC West. Looking forward to next season's games.

P.S. I acknowledge the response of T.O.

Not having Mathews and the poor playcalling 1st half killed us, it was clear we were going to struggle running Ronnie and Woody esp with Troutman at RG causing all sorts of confusion and doubt. The drop by the aforementioned Wright (who I think will be a v good corner) didn't help either.

Having said that the Broncos O line came to play last nite unlike in December when we battered them. I agree though for whatever reason the game was not out of sight when we started to play (when it should have been). You'll need to up your game a few notches for the Pats methinks.

Like you said roll on the division games in 2014.

Justin10

Well damn. So disappointed in the offence. Was exactly what I was afraid of happening. Reminded me of the patriot games, curl and underneath routes by denver receivers killing us. Denver Oline where fantastic.

Someone on here said we got the rub of the green, but that is utter rubbish. The holding denver got away with was ridiculous, on the run before Moreno td in the 2nd half, Marshall was held and turned directly in front of the ref. The PI flag on the 3rd down was an uncatchable ball too.

Anyways can't say I want either afc team to win but shall be enjoyable games.

Our roster doesn't have much dead weight on it. If it makes financial sense to let gates go in wouldn't mind. I'm guessing he is on huge salary. Had a good year statistically but may be time to move on. God knows of Alexander Floyd and freeney be back, or if Cox can get his act together.

I've always been confident in this bunch. We have some real quality players, let's hope we can add to that and push on.

Leslie think you are being very harsh on Teo, a kid who hasn't had an off season, if he was in there yesterday that zone to the flat would of been covered because he is that clever. Interesting to see what we do in the draft.

A DT or corner?

Ronaldinho

Anybody heard anything about Geathers lately? Where he was picked in the draft he was always going to be more of a project player.
Would be nice to have him play more of a role next season. And if they think he's up to the task then it gives them a bit more flexibility in the offseason. Corner/OLB/WR/NT all in play with the 1st rounder you would think.

Molly

Whiz gone to the Titans. Thanks for the year and good luck, I wonder what he sees in Locker. I would have thought Stafford would have been more attractive to develop

Leslie91

Ronaldinho wrote: »

Anybody heard anything about Geathers lately? Where he was picked in the draft he was always going to be more of a project player.
Would be nice to have him play more of a role next season. And if they think he's up to the task then it gives them a bit more flexibility in the offseason. Corner/OLB/WR/NT all in play with the 1st rounder you would think.

He was an UDFA and was inactive most games. He was active the last 2 and if he saw the field more than 5 plays I'd be surprised. I can't see him amounting to anything. Plays far too upright, a bit like Cam. We badly need a proper NT. Jerideau might actually end up being the better player.

Leslie91

Molly wrote: »

Whiz gone to the Titans. Thanks for the year and good luck, I wonder what he sees in Locker. I would have thought Stafford would have been more attractive to develop

I thought the same thing straight away. Mad to go to a team without a premier QB.

setanta74

Leslie91 wrote: »

I thought the same thing straight away. Mad to go to a team without a premier QB.

less pressure?...The Lions should be a regular playoff team now with Stafford, Megatron, Bush, Bell, Pettigrew, Burleson etc...very good options on offense.
They really imploded this year..again!

Might have time to build the Titans up a bit. Will be interesting to see how they draft.

Leslie91

Jason Michael our TEs coach has bolted to the Titans will be interesting to see who Mike and TT bring in.

OAOB

Leslie91 wrote: »

Jason Michael our TEs coach has bolted to the Titans will be interesting to see who Mike and TT bring in.

In fairness if he's been offered the OC job it'd be impossible for him to turn down. I think mccoy will really try promote from within when he can.

How do people feel about the pagano rehiring, not fully behind it as I think our defence has been incredibly inconsistent during his term. He hasn't great personnel to play with and was unlucky with injuries but I'm not sure they've been as well prepared as they could have been every week

Leslie91

OAOB wrote: »

In fairness if he's been offered the OC job it'd be impossible for him to turn down. I think mccoy will really try promote from within when he can.

How do people feel about the pagano rehiring, not fully behind it as I think our defence has been incredibly inconsistent during his term. He hasn't great personnel to play with and was unlucky with injuries but I'm not sure they've been as well prepared as they could have been every week

I'm not in the Pagano camp, I'd liked to have seen change there but I can understand why he is being brought back. But this will be his last year if there is not a marked improvement in 3rd down conversions and pass rush. He has to be on his last chance in my opinion.

Maybe we will see a change in his staff but I doubt it. We could certainly freshen it up a bit. Don Johnson (not of Miami Vice) has been there ages now and the likes of Cam and Reyes seem to be regressing rather than improving.

OAOB

Leslie91 wrote: »

I'm not in the Pagano camp, I'd liked to have seen change there but I can understand why he is being brought back. But this will be his last year if there is not a marked improvement in 3rd down conversions and pass rush. He has to be on his last chance in my opinion.

Maybe we will see a change in his staff but I doubt it. We could certainly freshen it up a bit. Don Johnson (not of Miami Vice) has been there ages now and the likes of Cam and Reyes seem to be regressing rather than improving.

I presume this draft will be predominantly defence so with more talent available to him he can get more consistent. I'd love to see freeney and ingram opposite each other on passing downs and have a decent cb covering down field.
I wonder did we enquire about wade philips at all

Molly

Manti T'eo played the whole season with a broken foot. Hopefully that can explain some of his sub par performances.

OAOB

Sounds stupid but that's great news. Hopefully he'll get healthy before preseason

OAOB

Sounds stupid but that's great news. Hopefully he'll get healthy before preseason

Molly

Well he's had the surgery already. So on the mend now. Also Brandon Taylor had more ACL surgery so that's not great.

Leslie91

Molly wrote: »

Well he's had the surgery already. So on the mend now. Also Brandon Taylor had more ACL surgery so that's not great.

Yeah thought it v strange to hear that Taylor has more knee surgery after/near the v end of the season. He was never active all year so why didn't they just operate as soon as? we could have brought another guy in for a look see with him on IR.

As for Manti hope that's a massive reason why he looked so poor this yr. Surely he can only improve now? how important is the signing to a long term of Butler?, after he it's Te'o, Mouton and feckin Bront Bird God help us. I could see up going ILB in the draft early if Telesco sees a Keenan Allen type value/player on the board in rd 2 or 3.

Having said that I am all about corner, nose tackle and O line this April.

Leslie91

I put this in the FA thread too, what say yee?

San Diego Chargers

Seyi Ajirotutu Wide Receiver 2014: Free Agent - I'd like to see him back, great special teams gunner
Danario Alexander Wide Receiver 2014: Free Agent - injury waiting to happen again but a brilliant receiver, I'd like to see him get another shot
Bront Bird Linebacker 2014: Restricted Free Agent - don't let the door hit you on the way out
Ronnie Brown Running Back 2014: Free Agent - thanks for the memories Ron but bye
Donald Butler Linebacker 2014: Free Agent - Must sign but will be pricey
Larry English Linebacker 2014: Free Agent - see Bront Bird
Lavelle Hawkins Wide Receiver 2014: Free Agent - who?, bye bye
Terrell Manning Linebacker 2013: Free Agent - bye
Richard Marshall Defensive Back 2014: Free Agent - I'd like to see him brought back for depth
Rich Ohrnberger Guard 2014: Free Agent - will be re-signed valuable can play 3 interior positions
Ryan Otten Tight End 2013: Free Agent - who?, bye
Chad Rinehart Guard 2014: Free Agent - should be back nice RG
Steve Schilling Tackle 2014: Restricted Free Agent - end of the rd for Steve bye bye
Darrell Stuckey Defensive Back 2014: Free Agent - hoping no other team sees how good this guy is on STs and is starting to see some time on D too
Cam Thomas Defensive Lineman 2014: Free Agent - total underachiever would need to come back cheaply
Reggie Walker Linebacker 2014: Free Agent - has something, might be back
Charlie Whitehurst Quarterback 2014: Free Agent - all depends on Sorensen, Charlie might be toast

Others

Jeromey Clary Tackle - signed thru 2014 but too expensive to carry so will have to restructure or he is gone
Dwight Freeney Linebacker - signed thru 2014 but question mark on if he will be brought back not getting any younger
Nick Hardwick - might he retire? (see Alex Mack below)
Le'ron McClain - adios amigo in my opinion
Eddie Royal - might want to restructure him, v pricey in 2014
Malcom Floyd - I doubt he comes back after injury
Vincent Brown - could be on the bubble
Derek Cox - sounds like TT is going to give him a second chance

I'd love to see us go hard after Alex Mack and best FA NT out there whoever he is.

Molly

Alex Mack will be very expensive.

http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2014/2/5/5384408/national-signing-day-san-diego-chargers-as-high-school-recruits <-- this is really cool. Rivers and Weddle as 2 stars. Crezdon Butler as a 4 star. DJ as a 5 star. Dunlap as 3 star was really surprising given his size

Leslie91

Molly wrote: »

Alex Mack will be very expensive.

http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2014/2/5/5384408/national-signing-day-san-diego-chargers-as-high-school-recruits <-- this is really cool. Rivers and Weddle as 2 stars. Crezdon Butler as a 4 star. DJ as a 5 star. Dunlap as 3 star was really surprising given his size

Alex Mack will be pricey but worth it. Never misses a game, best center out there, a complete stud in the middle of our O line, truly and literally someone you can build your Line around.

Saw that about the high school grades... mad alright.

Leslie91

Down go McClain, Cox and Patrick.

I wonder who is next. I'd like to see Clary dumped unless he agrees to come back for peanuts.

Also, want to see us bring Rinehart, Stuckey and Marshall back.

OAOB

Leslie91 wrote: »

Down go McClain, Cox and Patrick.

I wonder who is next. I'd like to see Clary dumped unless he agrees to come back for peanuts.

Also, want to see us bring Rinehart, Stuckey and Marshall back.

Those 3 players are no loss, contributed very little last year.

Clary is a tough guy and I think we need some of them. He will have to restructure if he's to stay.

Not overly sure about Marshall being resigned, if he's one of our CBs come sept then we really haven't upgraded. CBs already signed are Wright Gilchrist and Williams and we'll definitely draft at least one, we'll carry 5 I presume

Great news about Butler

OAOB

Leslie91 wrote: »

Down go McClain, Cox and Patrick.

I wonder who is next. I'd like to see Clary dumped unless he agrees to come back for peanuts.

Also, want to see us bring Rinehart, Stuckey and Marshall back.

Those 3 players are no loss, contributed very little last year.

Clary is a tough guy and I think we need some of them. He will have to restructure if he's to stay.

Not overly sure about Marshall being resigned, if he's one of our CBs come sept then we really haven't upgraded. CBs already signed are Wright Gilchrist and Williams and we'll definitely draft at least one, we'll carry 5 I presume

Great news about Butler

Leslie91

OAOB wrote: »

Those 3 players are no loss, contributed very little last year.

Clary is a tough guy and I think we need some of them. He will have to restructure if he's to stay.

Not overly sure about Marshall being resigned, if he's one of our CBs come sept then we really haven't upgraded. CBs already signed are Wright Gilchrist and Williams and we'll definitely draft at least one, we'll carry 5 I presume

Great news about Butler

U still traveling the back of beyond? interesting point u make about calling Gilly a corner. At times last season we had Gilly, Weddle, Addae and Stuckey all on the field at the same time. When u think of it all 4 are/or have played safety. So, methinks they might be looking at Gilly as more of the slot corner now since Patrick was released.

OAOB

Yeah another month and a half travelling but be back home to see the draft.

I'm presuming Gilchrist is our slot corner, its by far the position he has been most effective for us and he played that at the end of the season anyway so coaches have probably accepted his move to a safety isn't working.
Addae will be the likely ss entering training camp and it just depends on whether Taylor ever gets healthy to be even considered a back up.
I haven't been able to keep up with rumours over here much, any sign of them even talking to stuckey at the moment? He developed beyond just a special teamer last year and I really hope they bring him back

Leslie91

OAOB wrote: »

Yeah another month and a half travelling but be back home to see the draft.

I'm presuming Gilchrist is our slot corner, its by far the position he has been most effective for us and he played that at the end of the season anyway so coaches have probably accepted his move to a safety isn't working.
Addae will be the likely ss entering training camp and it just depends on whether Taylor ever gets healthy to be even considered a back up.
I haven't been able to keep up with rumours over here much, any sign of them even talking to stuckey at the moment? He developed beyond just a special teamer last year and I really hope they bring him back

Good stuff u must b havin a ball...

No news on Stuckey yet, most seem to think him being brought back is going to happen though. I can't see them letting him go, he is a true demon on special teams and made it onto the D at times near the end o the season like u say.

I want to see he, Rinehart, Seyi and Marshall come back.

Leslie91

Stuckey and Rinehart back in the fold now...

Shane.C

This beckons a goodbye for Clary.