Copper Face Jacks..How does it stay open so late?

sasta le

Anyone know how this place seems to be the only latebar/club ive seen in the country that opens later than most

Altho the Gaiety Theatre i think had a 4am licence one time


Has Coppers a hotel licence or some old ballroom licence

Sergeant

Whelans is staying up until around 3.30 on Saturday Night/Sunday Morning these days.

cursai

Blame the guards for not shutting it down.:rolleyes:




it obviously has a special licence.

maximoose

The government granted them an extra late license in reward for managing to keep all the arseholes of the country in the one place.

sasta le

cursai wrote: »

Blame the guards for not shutting it down.:rolleyes:




it obviously has a special licence.

Not blaming the Guards for anything?

Thats what im trying to find out

Im in pub trade and no one seems to know

Sofa King Great

SSSHHHHH you will ruin it for everyone!

Lapin

Because coppers is full of guards on the píss.

And Ban Gardaí .


So the cops leave Coppers alone !

stovelid

sasta le wrote: »

Copper Face Jacks..How does it stay open so late?

They keep the door open and keep serving.

sasta le

Has any of the other clubs/late bars ever tryed to contest this?

Dublin Vintners?

AnonoBoy

sasta le wrote: »

Has any of the other clubs/late bars ever tryed to contest this?

Dublin Vintners?

Why would Dublin Vintners try to contest one of their own being allowed to serve late? Makes no sense.

tunedout

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Why would Dublin Vintners try to contest one of their own being allowed to serve late? Makes no sense.

Makes plenty sense if what they are doing is illegal, anti competitive and unfair on their other members.

sasta le

If Coppers can stay open till 4am and even later then why do all other places close at 2.30/3am?

CucaFace

I might be wrong here but is it not owned by an ex guard or something like that?

Someone once told me this was the reason why it was open so late.

I have also wondered how they get to stay open later than others.

But then again doesn't Bucks and other wine bars on Leeson street also stay open later then most as well?

AnonoBoy

tunedout wrote: »

Makes plenty sense if what they are doing is illegal, anti competitive and unfair on their other members.

You're presuming it is illegal. They might just have a licence that allows them to stay open that late.

sasta le

That what im trying to find out

tunedout

AnonoBoy wrote: »

You're presuming it is illegal. They might just have a licence that allows them to stay open that late.

I didn't presume anything.

I think the legitimacy is what is trying to be established. I can understand why too, seeing that most other clubs don't stay open that late. Either they can't get the license or the have no interest.

walnut grove

It has been raided recently actually, just too many ppl there to take names and addresses lol. Some dude with red on his shoulders and lots of cops. I left fairly fast and didn't hear the outcome

sasta le

walnut grove wrote: »

It has been raided recently actually, just too many ppl there to take names and addresses lol. Some dude with red on his shoulders and lots of cops. I left fairly fast and didn't hear the outcome

You must have a connection to Coppers if this is your 1st post

killbillvol2

walnut grove wrote: »

It has been raided recently actually, just too many ppl there to take names and addresses lol. Some dude with red on his shoulders and lots of cops. I left fairly fast and didn't hear the outcome

sasta le wrote: »

You must have a connection to Coppers if this is your 1st post

I'd say if he had a connection to Coppers he'd know the outcome??? :rolleyes:

Bummer1234

I heard that dublin is the only city in Ireland that Can get this sort of Late license, When i was living in Galway they tried to extend the 2am late bar but to no Avail.

I assume places just don't pay for the extra 2 hours late bar as they don't take the same income as they do for 12-2am.

sasta le

killbillvol2 wrote: »

I'd say if he had a connection to Coppers he'd know the outcome??? :rolleyes:

The way its stated makes it sound like Coppers does get raided as in they are treated the same

the purple tin

maximoose wrote: »

The government granted them an extra late license in reward for managing to keep all the arseholes of the country in the one place.

The govt ****ed up. The arseholes are roaming free across the entire country

Realtine

maximoose wrote: »

The government granted them an extra late license in reward for managing to keep all the arseholes of the country in the one place.

That's Dail Eireann.

walnut grove

I have no connection with coppers. I hate the place. By the way I only joined yesterday so 10/10 on realising its my first post.

NilByMouth

Lapin wrote: »

Because coppers is full of guards on the píss.

And Ban Gardaí .


So the cops leave Coppers alone !

and its owned by an ex-garda ....

seanmc1980

nothing to do with guards, it has a licence same as bucks, leggs etc.. chip about the guards on a lot of peoples shoulders around here.

cson

Don't they stop serving at 2.30am but stay open til 4am?

fwiw licensing hours in this country are a joke; ****ing everyone out onto the street at the same time when they're scuttered isn't the brightest of ideas.

Let pubs/clubs close when they want tbh.

cson

seanmc1980 wrote: »

nothing to do with guards, it has a licence same as bucks, leggs etc.. chip about the guards on a lot of peoples shoulders around here.

tbf it annoys me too when I'm in the queue and see a group of 5/6 lads rocking up and flashing the Garda badge to skip it.

GPA heads get in for free + skip too afaik.

MIRMIR82

I was in Galway for my hen weekend recently we left the night club at closing time ( i presume about 2:30) went to the chipper and found coyotes still open on the way back to bed - went in and got served another 2 drinks - i think it was after 4 before we left so its not just coppers!

Corruptedmorals

D2 do this also, just across the street. More clubs should if possible, it alleviates the horrible mess at 3am if people have more time to drink stupid amounts in.

Turner

tunedout wrote: »

Makes plenty sense if what they are doing is illegal, anti competitive and unfair on their other members.

Why dont you ring them and ask them if they have a special license?

AnonoBoy

Turner wrote: »

Why dont you ring them and ask them if they have a special license?

No much better idea to just ask people on the internet who don't actually know and who are only guessing.

goose2005

because it's only 2 o'clock in galway

sasta le

So they serve drink till 2.30am and play music till 4am or later

Alkers

Loads of clubs stay open as late as Coppers now. The Village, 92, D2 etc.

J K

Clubs and pubs around Dublin will finish on time on the dot because the barmen want to go home to bed. They don't get paid extra for staying up all night. Bar staff in Dublin have a strong union to enforce this. Where you have family run pubs - primarily outside Dublin - you will get late drinks and lock ins.
So raids by Gardai isn't the determining factor in whether a pub serves after hours. How often do you see a raid. Anywhere?

cson

J K wrote: »

Clubs and pubs around Dublin will finish on time on the dot because the barmen want to go home to bed. They don't get paid extra for staying up all night.

Eh?

You've just had about 5/6 posters in this thread alone confirm Coppers [in addition to D2 and The Village] opens til 4am.

seanmc1980

cson wrote: »

tbf it annoys me too when I'm in the queue and see a group of 5/6 lads rocking up and flashing the Garda badge to skip it.

GPA heads get in for free + skip too afaik.

theirs your 1st problem what kinda tool queues to get into a club, guards get into all clubs and pubs for free and skip queues everywhere, not just coppers

J K

cson wrote: »

Eh?

You've just had about 5/6 posters in this thread alone confirm Coppers [in addition to D2 and The Village] opens til 4am.

I know lots of places in dublin that open late, including coppers. The vast majority don't however. My post if you read it again is to tell you why most don't. Its not due to some sinister plan or corruption. If the publican told one of his staff to keep serving after time they would simply refuse.

RATM

J K wrote: »

I know lots of places in dublin that open late, including coppers. The vast majority don't however. My post if you read it again is to tell you why most don't. Its not due to some sinister plan or corruption. If the publican told one of his staff to keep serving after time they would simply refuse.

No they wouldn't and I worked in the pub trade for years. Unions are pretty much dead in Dublin except for a few Mandate shops so you'd get no backing there.

Coppers is owned by a former guard, Cathal Jackson, hence the Jackson Court Hotel and Coppers nightclub. Flannerys is also owned by former Gardai as is McGowans in Phibsboro as far as I know. I'm not getting into conspiracy theories here but in 10 years of working in the trade these types of venues were left alone. And if they are raided then that is just for show- no prosecutions will ever come of it and the superintendent wont be objecting to the license when it comes for renewal in the District Court in September.

Aside from the above there is a hotel on the northside which is also frequented by Gardai, more so those in their 40's and 50's. If you know the staff / night porter there then you can get served pretty much 24/7, I know of a few alcoholics who go there at 7am most mornings.

As far as I know 2.30am is the latest a District Court judge can give a license for. The exception to this is a theatre license which can serve to 4am provided there is some sort of live performance taking place (A DJ will suffice). The venue also has to be a theatre of course and you can't apply for a new theatre license anymore so what the Gaiety has is like gold dust.

Wine Bars on Leeson St are in some sort of grey area, their wine license allows them to serve late but that means they should only be serving wine, which we all know isn't the case.

OP perhaps more bars don't serve late because the market just isn't there anymore. Back in the boom pubs were packed 7 nights a week and there was always a piss up on somewhere. Today they are lucky to get a busy Friday and Saturday night and people are drinking at home before they come out so they're already well pissed when in town and hence drinking a lot less.

Alot of guards drink there. Not only that but every now and again the Garda do show up and shut it down. I think so they can say they have done it.

Kinda like bars in the country. They lock you in and you end up drinking with the local Garda till 5 am.

Plenty of pubs in Dublin serve very late, well past the official serving time. You just need to know which ones they are (and that's not even including the ones who do lock-ins regularly and never seem to get any hassle for it).

The ones i know of all seem to be owned by guards, or frequented by guards, or close to garda stations, or don't charge guards, or look after the guards, or get lots of off duty guards in, or some theme along those lines. I was in a large pub in Dublin city centre not two weeks ago which was still in full swing at 3am. It's 30 metres from one of the city's main Garda Stations, in it's direct line of sight.

You can probably see what I'm inferring here, and it doesn't just apply to pubs. In Ireland, if you look after the law, the law will look after you.

The Scientician

I'd say I've been in half a dozen bars/clubs in Dublin city centre where you can get served after 2.30am if not every single weekend, at least occasionally. I don't know anything about the legality of it but it seems that especially when there's a good crowd but no trouble they'll leave the bars open later. I assume it is legal because receipts etc. are decent documentary evidence of the practice and I can't think of anywhere that doesn't issue receipts.

FWIW Coppers gets a lot of stick but in my experience is typically well run. I just don't like it because it's so vast. If you go with friends and somehow lose them, good luck finding them again!

sasta le

It seems the thing about the Ex Garda owning it pops up alot

So is Coppers and the other venues that some posters have named breaking the law or what?

finbarrk

Suppose if they finish serving at 2.30 they are not breaking the law.