The Angelus

WoollyRedHat

This is something I've always wondered, whenever I've seen the Angelus before the news.

In the last few years the Angelus has changed. It used to be that whenever the bells would ring for the Angelus, that the person would stop what they were doing at once and look up at the sky or what have you.
Now however, everybody just carries on what they're doing, and seem oblivous to it completely, what's that about?

The Radiator

Cue Catholic Church bashing...

WoollyRedHat

Well if you don't know, then nobody will. Damn.

The Radiator

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Well if you don't know, then nobody will. Damn.

Ninja edit makes a fool of you

Dostoevsky

The Angelus

The variety of threads here makes every Groundhog Day seem original.

BabyMonkeyy

Cause nobody gives a sh**e about the church anymore!

davet82

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Now however, everybody just carries on what they're doing, and seem oblivous to it completely, what's that about?

they probably arent saying the anglus, they just dont give a fúck like the rest of us

Rocky_Dennis

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

This is something I've always wondered, whenever I've seen the Angelus before the news.

In the last few years the Angelus has changed. It used to be that whenever the bells would ring for the Angelus, that the person would stop what they were doing at once and look up at the sky or what have you.
Now however, everybody just carries on what they're doing, and seem oblivous to it completely, what's that about?

We're in the middle of a recession, nobody has time to stop and reflect, time is money.

FatherLen

i haven't seen the angelus in years. is it still as exciting as i remember?

IM0

bong....

Immaculate Pasta

BabyMonkeyy wrote: »

Cause nobody gives a sh**e about the church anymore!

:eek:

mike65

FatherLen wrote: »

i haven't seen the angelus in years. is it still as exciting as i remember?

They should invite guest film directors to put their own spin on the minute of piety.

WoollyRedHat

Dostoevsky wrote: »

The variety of threads here makes every Groundhog Day seem original.

You've enlightened me.

eviltwin

Probably time it was scrapped.

FatherLen

mike65 wrote: »

They should invite guest film directors to put their own spin on the minute of piety.

michael bay.

bong

bong

*massive explosion*

bong

Battered Mars Bar

We learned how to multitask, walking and acting normally whilst praying is second nature now.

Beats having to stop & look up into the sky just so other people will know you're praying and not burn you at stake like in olden times.

WoollyRedHat

I always considered it to be setting a dangerous example... if you were doing something anyway half important, the notion of just stopping all of a sudden because of a bell seemed crazy.

krudler

true story, I asked to be quiet in someones house because the angelus was on, I wasnt even in the same room I was out in the kitchen nowhere near the tv.

OldGoat

eviltwin wrote: »

Probably time it was scrapped.

Or at least upgraded to Beep's. Dings and dongs are so last year.

WoollyRedHat

krudler wrote: »

true story, I asked to be quiet in someones house because the angelus was on, I wasnt even in the same room I was out in the kitchen nowhere near the tv.

Whenever I'm in the company of my Gran and she hears the Angelus, I'm forced to recite it out with her. I make sure I never visit approaching 12 O'Clock or 6 O'Clock.

John Doe1

It should be replaced by this only instead of emanuel goldstein oul bertie:D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Minutes_Hate

krudler

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Whenever I'm in the company of my Gran and she hears the Angelus, I'm forced to recite it out with her. I make sure I never visit approaching 12 O'Clock or 6 O'Clock.

recite it? "bong....bong.....bong....bonnnnnnnggggg"

least the lyrics are easy to remember

prinz

mike65 wrote: »

They should invite guest film directors to put their own spin on the minute of piety.

I'm sure Tarantino could squeeze in a 'washing of the feet' there somewhere.;)

eviltwin wrote: »

Probably time it was scrapped.

It's gradually going that way anyway. It's amazing how one minute of the angelus manages to get people's noses more than three minutes of the most annoying shíte advertising you can possibly imagine and then three hours odd of soaps.

There's one thing as mind-numbing and repetitive as the angelus bells, and that's threads about the angelus.

eviltwin

prinz wrote: »

I'm sure Tarantino could squeeze in a 'washing of the feet' there somewhere.;)



It's gradually going that way anyway. It's amazing how one minute of the angelus manages to get people's noses more than three minutes of the most annoying shíte advertising you can possibly imagine and then three hours odd of soaps.

There's one thing as mind-numbing and repetitive as the angelus bells, and that's threads about the angelus.

I don't find it offensive at all...if anything it reminds me its nearly time for the news. Its part of the furniture but I wonder how many people observe it. Am I right in thinking there are prayers to be said as its on? I just wonder if it serves a purpose.

Nothingbetter2d

The Radiator wrote: »

Cue Catholic Church bashing...

lol to be honest they do deserve a good bashing :P

frag420

They tried to change it up a few yrs ago but it was not allowed for some funny reason......................

woodoo

RTE needs to get rid of it. Its an awful racket before the news.

AskJives

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

This is something I've always wondered, whenever I've seen the Angelus before the news.

In the last few years the Angelus has changed. It used to be that whenever the bells would ring for the Angelus, that the person would stop what they were doing at once and look up at the sky or what have you.
Now however, everybody just carries on what they're doing, and seem oblivous to it completely, what's that about?

Basically,
over the last few years RTE has subtly removed many religious aspects to the Angelus and introduced a more multi-cultured Ireland. So instead of religious imagery you see african people or asian people etc etc.

prinz

eviltwin wrote: »

I don't find it offensive at all...if anything it reminds me its nearly time for the news. Its part of the furniture but I wonder how many people observe it. Am I right in thinking there are prayers to be said as its on? I just wonder if it serves a purpose.

Can't see many observing it tbh, perhaps older people, the last person I knew of actually adhering to it was my grandmother who is long dead. There is a standard Angelus prayer you can get it here..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelus

Seems to me if I was actually trying to say the bells would be more of a hindrance than a help :pac: Anywho the angelus bells let me know it's time for Eggheads over on BBC2.

problemchimp

Hmmm, this thread rings a bell.

link_2007

IM0 wrote: »

bong....

*drops shovel and looks forlornly at the sky*

frag420

Sometimes when I am having some afternoon delight and I know the Angelus is coming up shortly I hold on and just as the first bell is struck I let it go..............

I call it The Cumming of our Lord

I then look out the window and towards the clouds and think deeply............

Rolli

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

This is something I've always wondered, whenever I've seen the Angelus before the news.

In the last few years the Angelus has changed. It used to be that whenever the bells would ring for the Angelus, that the person would stop what they were doing at once and look up at the sky or what have you.
Now however, everybody just carries on what they're doing, and seem oblivous to it completely, what's that about?

I never really notice tbh. Most people wouldn't either, I'd imagine

Shane-KornSpace

I always start singing For Whom The Bell Tolls when I hear them

doncarlos

It used to be a pain in the arse in PE. Class ran from 11-1 and the instructor used to blow the whistle in the middle of a football game at 12 and everybody was expected to stop get in a circle and say the angelus. I had many a wonder goal chalked out because of that stupid ritual. :mad:

wendell borton

the original...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMNQ84nHFZo

the daft punk remix....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L93-7vRfxNs

and the two minute version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zYlOU7Fpk

.

philstar

remember the angelus in the ol'days??

they would be a simple picture of the virgin mary and bong bong bong bong for exactly 60 sec

i timed the angelus the other day and it was 57 sec long....its no wonder the country gone to hell

Executive Steve

AskJives wrote: »

Basically,
over the last few years RTE has subtly removed many religious aspects to the Angelus and introduced a more multi-cultured Ireland. So instead of religious imagery you see african people or asian people etc etc.

Because only white people have religious beliefs?

:rolleyes:

refusetolose

10 minutes for the next one!

Chuck Stone

It's more of a cultural/traditional Irish thing than a religious thing at this stage imho.

Isn't thing a great word?

AskJives

Executive Steve wrote: »

Because only white people have religious beliefs?

:rolleyes:

you feeling ok?
Did you understand what I was saying in the post you quoted?
Have you actually watched the angelus?

RTE has eased back on catholic imagery in the angelous these days because Ireland is now multi-cultured and with that means people have different beliefs. Watch it in a few minutes. You'll see that they are trying to make Ireland a diversified community... different people. different race. They dont just do the whole "stop then stare" thing no more.

Often you'll see some afican woman writing a letter or bloody what ever. diversified my friend.

feel like i am repeating myself...

AskJives wrote: »

Basically,
over the last few years RTE has subtly removed many religious aspects to the Angelus and introduced a more multi-cultured Ireland. So instead of religious imagery you see african people or asian people etc etc.

oh wait I am :rolleyes:

Chuck Stone

AskJives wrote: »

Often you'll see some afican woman writing a letter or bloody what ever. diversified my friend.

feel like i am repeating myself...

oh wait I am :rolleyes:

philstar

QUESTION - is RTE the only state broadcaster that does the angelus??

Deus Ex Machina

Shouldn't it really be a fourteen minute Angelus? People don't often have the chance to take time out and worship, so a longer Angelus would be a good opportunity to do this.

AskJives

Chuck Stone wrote: »

haha.

I see what RTE are thinking tho ...
Lets take Nigerians for example. Northern Nigerian is generally muslim. While the south is christian. Alot of Nigerians in Ireland... So ... if RTE want to make the angelus more multi-cultured its clear they dont wanna make it too catholic (which is what they did by removing ALOT of catholic imagery)


But with that said, its kinda stupid. Ireland is officially an catholic country. Why change to suit others?

philstar

AskJives wrote: »

But with that said, its kinda stupid. Ireland is officially an catholic country. Why change to suit others?

is it?

i reckon 50% of the population is closet atheist

Mickey Dazzler

I don't know about the rest of you but when I hear the Angelus I get down on my hunkers and try desperately to perform autofellatio... just like your supposed to do.

Chuck Stone

AskJives wrote: »

But with that said, its kinda stupid. Ireland is officially an catholic country. Why change to suit others?

I don't believe in the whole god(s) thing and I do think the state should be as secular as possible but I don't have any issue with the Angelus minute because I believe it has become more of an Irish cultural tradition than a religious intrusion.

I'm open to being persuaded otherwise though.

AskJives

philstar wrote: »

is it?

i reckon 50% of the population is closet atheist

i reckon you are right. but its just the rep ireland has. just like other countries. ireland being catholic, england being prosestant. etc.

marty1985

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I don't believe in the whole god(s) thing and I do think the state should be as secular as possible but I don't have any issue with the Angelus minute because I believe it has become more of an Irish cultural tradition than a religious intrusion.

I'm open to being persuaded otherwise though.

Yeah I agree. It's a bit pointless getting upset about it. It's here to stay I think (RTE have rejected a number of complaints, saying they provide ample viewing time for other faiths, not just Catholicism or Christianity) but it has been secularised completely, which should keep the boardsies happy. They played the angelus on Good Friday - a big no no for Catholics. I actually like it though. I'd rather a short minute of bells than a minute of ads.

woodoo

I emailed RTE to complain about the Angelus. I got an email back to say my complaint had been passed on to their religious department. Then i got an email from them asking why i thought the Angulus should be stopped. I wrote back to them and they never replied back.