Where would be the best place to go in a zombie apocalypse??

Rowanvella199

Me and a friend are having a theoretical discussion about where the best place to survive in a zombie apocalypse would be. What do you think would be a better place to go if a zombie apocalypse came about, i am saying a boat or traveling to a rural location in a bus, He is saying take over the top floor of the elysian in cork city (a skyscraper) which would involve the use of an ab-sail system and traveling up and down the building on a daily basis.

What would you do in a zombie apocalypse?

degrassinoel

Both excellent ideas imo.

Traveling by bus would be dodgy though, there could be people on that bus who have been infected. Groups to me are generally good when they are small and terrible when they are large. On a public bus, you would largely traveling with unknown people. Possibility of infection is larger, and also the possibilities of other things like being mugged, bullied or coerced into doing something you know is a terrible idea.

Rural areas themselves would be fiercely guarded by survivors, you may get in as a small group but the more people that are holed up, the greater the chance of Zeds following you or flatout refusal or aggression by the locals.

The skyscraper idea is brilliant except for the danger of being spotted/smelled/heard abseiling up and down. The first time this happens, it will draw a crowd and they wont leave until they've eaten. Short-term it's brilliant. Long-term, it's a skyhigh deathtrap with very limited resources.

Both are Great ideas though some seriously hard effort would be involved to make them work though.

ScumLord

The skyscrapper idea has a number of problems. First of all there's the inherent danger in abseiling on a daily basis, your more than likely going to be stuck with the same gear wearing down. I know they make them to last but I wouldn't want to depend on it.

A building like that needs the modern world feeding it too, without power and water all it will be is a safe house that you'll have to leave on a regular basis for supplies and even water, hauling water up ropes won't be easy. Once the windows go on the building you'll be spending a lot of time and resources plugging the holes which will be vital on a tall building exposed to the wind.

Moving to the country side will be like moving back into your natural environment, it's not an easy lifestyle but people have survived off the land for as long as people have been around.

kildare.17hmr

A boat would be a nice backup but not something id like to rely on

Zomg Okay

The problem, I think, with holing up in rural areas is that everyone will try to do it. And the people there already will defend it to the death - because the alternative is to die anyway. The only way you'll get onto a farm is if:

A.) You're already on one.
B.) The person who owns the farm is a close friend or relative.
C.) You're prepared to kill the people already there.
D.) Someone in the farmer's group shoots your son in a hunting accident.

Everyone is going to flock to the countryside and it'll likely be more violent out there than in city areas. I wouldn't go near a skyscraper as it would end up being a very tall tomb. I do, however, think I would prefer to take my chances in a more urban environment. Maybe not a full blown city but certainly a medium or large town.

A boat could work if it was near enough the shore for you to go gather supplies when needed, weren't worried about the possibility of pirates and you didn't mind living off fish. A rural area or skyscraper, to be blunt, will not work.

RiderOnTheStorm

this debate has gone on here for a while, with no concrete conclusion.

I think the answer is a varity of the above

(1) Initial Outbreak - Stay at home
Barracade yourself inside and stay there until the fighting in the streets is over. This could be a few days or a week or two. Easy enough to survive in your own house / appartment / etc for this time with a small bit of pre-planning

(2) Medium Term - get to a highrise
For the next year or so, you need a fortress. Get into a big building (skyscraper or hotel). First you need to check & clear it for Zed's. Then barracade the ground floor (easy to do, as most big buildings only have a couple of stairs to the upper floors & a lift). But pick a building in your town. Do not travel to find a new place. You want to be able to commute easily & quickly from your home to this building hile you set it up, clear it of Zeds etc. For the remainder of the year, you will need to gather food, supplies etc and the best place to do this is on your own turf.

(3) The Countryside - live long & prosper
The ultimate aim is to head to the countryside and live off the land. This is the only long term plan that will work (imho). Again, commuting from your base (in step 2) to the eventual 'farm' of step 3 will take quite a few journeys to and fro to set things up and gather resources / build defences / plant seeds / etc

Old Tom

I'd most likely head to Dublin Harbour and got onto one of the countless boats there. I'd initially sail to Ireland's Eye to get myself together, plan and at the same time keep an eye (an ear - radio) on the situation in Dublin.

If the things got very bad (as they usually do), the next step would be to sail down to the Wicklow mountains and get as high up as possible. Secure a temporary shelter, water supply and all that....

In more permanent solution I'd be looking for a bigger boat to stay away from the land, make it my safe house, get fish and other seafood, etc.

This is realistic. Not realistic - obviously, a nearest oil rig, fully supplied, water desalination system, solar panels to provide energy 24h/day and stuff :cool:

degrassinoel

Ireland's Eye... if ye dont mind being divebombed by insane seagulls it's a good place for grass and seagull eggs, but not much else. The martello tower that's there is sealed off, ye'd need some heavy equipment to break it open for any kind of shelter, that or a good shovel and dig yourself a makeshift shelter, though i'd hazzard a guess that the ground out tehre is mostly rock and very little dirt considering there are no trees on the island. It's pretty barren out there man.. and did i mention the crazy gulls? MAD, insane stuka pilots reincarnated as seagulls!

Lambay might be a better option, it's just north of the Eye

Old Tom

Well, just temporarily I meant. Like a day or max two. To stop shaking from adrenaline, quiet down thoughts and make a plan that would be not a reflection of a panic.

Witcher

We all know that when the day comes we'll sit in the corner of our rooms crying our eyes out:pac:

Old Tom

Blay wrote: »

We all

I have a pair of balls... Just saying :rolleyes:

degrassinoel

Old Tom wrote: »

I have a pair of balls... Just saying :rolleyes:

And if they are weeping your first port of call should be an STD clinic

Mornin Tom!

Old Tom

degrassinoel wrote: »

Mornin Tom!

Mornin'...
I knew holidays in Ireland will be a bad idea. Pissing rain without a break. I'm soo annoyed. Back to work tomorrow. FFFUUUUUUU!!!!! :mad:

Witcher

Old Tom wrote: »

I have a pair of balls... Just saying :rolleyes:

The zombie won't get much of a meal from them:pac:

Old Tom

Blay wrote: »

The zombie won't get much of a meal from them:pac:

Correct, because they wont get them at all

BigDuffman

Take over a grocery wholesaler the likes of musgraves, mangans etc at the earliest possible opportunity. Barricade. Wait.

nujeebaby

Id get myself to Waterford Castle, it's an island not too far from the city and you gotta take a ferry to get there. It has a golf course that could easily be turned into farmable land as well as a castle to hold up in and a few houses for when more people need shelter.
One of the biggest problems that would need to be addressed is getting yourself a decent amount of guns and ammo,

degrassinoel

BigDuffman wrote: »

Take over a grocery wholesaler the likes of musgraves, mangans etc at the earliest possible opportunity. Barricade. Wait.

Bacardi Barricade! Oh yea!

nujeebaby wrote: »

Id get myself to Waterford Castle, it's an island not too far from the city and you gotta take a ferry to get there. It has a golf course that could easily be turned into farmable land as well as a castle to hold up in and a few houses for when more people need shelter.
One of the biggest problems that would need to be addressed is getting yourself a decent amount of guns and ammo,

That sounds perfect!

Zomg Okay

nujeebaby wrote: »

One of the biggest problems that would need to be addressed is getting yourself a decent amount of guns and ammo,

This is Ireland, so don't get your hopes up on that front. Only way that'll happen is if you find a group of undead Defence Forces lads who didn't use much of their rounds or if you can successfully get into a military base that will most likely already be a survivor's den/picked clean.

Even if you did get a worthwhile amount of firearms and ammo, you'd have to know how to operate and maintain those guns. If you manage to find a gun, by all means take it, but you'll want to get used to the fact that you'll be getting most of the dirty business done with a hurley, not a Benelli.

nujeebaby

Zomg Okay wrote: »

you'll want to get used to the fact that you'll be getting most of the dirty business done with a hurley

Just got a mental image of people defending themselves with hurleys
Well it would be nice to have a gun or 2 just incase.

Tzar Chasm

A more optimistic outlook on the weapons front wouldnot be unwarranted.


During the 90's there was a fella called De'Chastalaine he made a huge list of where 'all' the weapons were hidden in this country, if you take it as a conservative estimate that he may have seen half of them that's still a lot of firepower squirreled away

shedweller

Been thinking about this lately. Was in Bunratty castle with the kids and thought it would be perfect (for a large group) to defend against zombies.
All the castles around Ireland could do the job fairly well long term as well. Some are small enough and more suited to smaller groups.
Dun Aengus on the aran islands could do, if you had a boat. Double safety! Sure the thing is made for the job!:D


Having said that, a lot of other people would be thinking the same thing. So it would be first come first served!

nujeebaby

Id say safety wise getting to these places would be quiet hard between getting petrol and food to get you there. Who's to say the people there will help you, trust you or just shoot you?
You'll need something or a skillset such as being a nurse/doctor to be valuable to them

Thrace

Its worth while to scout out secure buildings or islands and make a map. Places without water are just high visibility prison cells unless you have your own army. Its possible the real army will have eyeballed those anyway so think abandoned, out of the way.

If you had a trusted friend who had a big boat/trawler it would be the safest temporary dwelling possible as long as you had enough supplies/equipment. I say trusted because as supplies dwindle..well..I'd like to be able to sleep with both eyes shut..:cool:

Theres also a third alternative imo - underground. There are tunnels under many towns and cities and abandoned mines are plentiful. Few know about town tunnels as most are sealed up and I've never found out their purpose. Dry as a bone though with cans from the 40's.

Invisibility or just simply not being around populated areas will be the key to survival.

Leftyjrjr085

It depends if were talkin' slow Zombies like Resident Evil or Fast Zombies like 28 days later. For me I just go anyplace where there's no meat. I think some Zombies can smell meat. (Depending on what were talkin about) Also first post on Boards

Gandalph

I dont know were on earth I would go, I always think to myself get on a boat but realistically I wouldnt know what I was doing, prob get eaten while trying to start the damn thing!

Thrace

Gandalph wrote: »

I always think to myself get on a boat but realistically I wouldnt know what I was doing, prob get eaten while trying to start the damn thing!

Same as that. Rubber water wings for us so.

I wish I had a boat now, I'd be in Barbados. This cold weather is crap.

Realistically I'd love to stay in my house if anything happened. I've plenty of wire mesh to cover the windows n doors. Unfortunately 50c worth of petrol would put an end to that plan.

ScumLord

http://www.claregalwaycastle.com/

Claregalway castle is almost coming to completion, maybe. It's got a river beside it, high walls on the road side and a great view. Should be ideal.

Yakult

Bere Island. Would probably become some sort of settlement due to size with plenty of shelter and land/water to work off.
http://www.abandonedireland.com/bf.html

Thrace

Yakult wrote: »

Bere Island. Would probably become some sort of settlement due to size with plenty of shelter and land/water to work off.
http://www.abandonedireland.com/bf.html

Some site :eek: Wish I had a full map of abandoned places in Ireland.

Yakult

Thrace wrote: »

Some site :eek: Wish I had a full map of abandoned places in Ireland.

That website is as good as it gets, have spent hours on it and checking out a few places.

steveLFC24

I'd like to think I'd try to barricade myself inside a large supermarket ( I know, very Dawn of the dead-esqe). Makes the most sense I think, no need to go hunting for food or supplies.

I think the most important thing to think about is what time of day the outbreak occurs. If it starts during day then you can kiss goodbye to any shops, hotels. tourist attractions etc, because they'll be full of zombies already. If it began overnight then the shops wouldn't have been opened the next day so would be relatively safe. Its all about timing

okcgrl59

Hey for all you Zombie lovers check out "Soldiers of the Dead" by Troy Smivens. It"s a book about Lesbian Zombie killers.

celticcrash

I would head for tipp town because the tipp people would chop them in slices and eat them.

Old Tom

okcgrl59 wrote: »

Hey for all you Zombie lovers check out "Soldiers of the Dead" by Troy Smivens. It"s a book about Lesbian Zombie killers.

My god... I guess it couldn't go any lower.

liamhana

I think I'll be heading for an island. But nothing too big or inhabited. There's a few choice ones about a mile from my house nr Loughh Corrib but also something like an island on lough derg/lough Allen/Clew Bay. ie - small enough to man, ariable land, defendable by lookout and close enough to the mainland for regular forays.
Aranmore/Tory/Aran Island/Bere isl etc are all lovely islands but the locals rule the roost, they'd stop you getting on or you'll end up in a constant fight for power/politics etc...
Going it alone with the family with heavy duty army tents (small pod tents inside these), taking some farm animals -hens/goats/cow or two with us (they can swim the mile over) & supplies and a good rowing boat and some kajaks.

Daisy M

I think I would stay put. I live in Mayo out in the countryside. Not too many neighbours so I think we would be able to put up a good fight against any who became infected. Water well nearby. Vegtable patches in the vicinity, chickens, cattle and sheep on my fathers farm plus a couple of horses to get around on. I dont think fuel would be a problem as tractor diesel would be available on the nearby farms also could possibly use kerosene from oil tanks. Lots of turf and wood to see us through cold winters plus the fathers rifle and presumably those belonging to neighbouring farmers who had gone over to the dark side. Anyone who showed up seeking shelter would have to go through a quarantine period in one of the out buildings. There is also a generator on the farm which we would use in emergencies.

Siddiq

A skyscraper would be a bad idea, I feel. First of all, getting there during the initial stages of any break down of society would be difficult enough, nevermind an infected horde of predators. Add the human factor, raiders, bandits, who live off the shopping markets and lone wanderers who blow through town, qliving in groups, would also likely prove deadly, if you don't hold some form of training, or an incredible store of luck to tap in to.

It's a clichè, but it is used so often for a reason, it works. Head to the country side, learn to live of the land, farming, hunting, scavanging, anything that keeps you isolated until a cure, military action, or eventual shut down of the creatures leaves the road to civilisation safe nice again.

Gather yourself a small group of trusted friends, people who can handle themselves and keep themselves calm under pressure and head for the mountains, they have been a natural defence against invaders in countries such as those in Scandinavia for centuries. The tried and tested are to be trusted in these situations, experimentation is the unknown, a fear of the Dark, and illadvised.

DipStick McSwindler

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kildare.17hmr

That gerber kit is a nice collection alright!

JJJJNR

It would have to be a massive data centre, those places have enough diesel to run a avg family car for 100+ years, also they have very good communication links, backup sat links etc, tight security, with some being surrounded with large walls and metal gates. Visually they look no different than a normal warehouse and chances are you would be close to some other warehouses storing food and supplies, maybe even weapons, and alcohol e.g. Baldonnell airport.

Crooked Jack

Think I'd be more inclined to stay on the move. At first at least. Quick and quiet raids for supplies on small towns and villages, isolated rural shops, that sort of thing and then head to the mountains or sheds (preferably with a loft) for the night.
Maybe when things quietened down you could move into cities to look for supplies, starting off on the outskirts and moving across rooftops.
If you could keep that up for 6 months to a year you'd avoid most of the initial panic, most of the zombies would have died off, even ones infected after the initial outbreak and survivors may have calmed down a bit, might be less likely to shoot you on sight or rape and eat you.

DuPLeX

I'd head the nearest Mac Donald's or to my local <snip>Ouch! . I'm aware that incidences of zombie attacks in these locations are statistically low.

degrassinoel

Sigh, trolls.

ScumLord

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Think I'd be more inclined to stay on the move. At first at least. Quick and quiet raids for supplies on small towns and villages, isolated rural shops, that sort of thing and then head to the mountains or sheds (preferably with a loft) for the night.

I don't think small towns and villages will be empty, the disease will have a hard time spreading in these locations. Poor public transport and the death of the rural pub means they have few chances to mingle unlike urban folk you are forced into tight confines with infected people. I think you'll met a lot of opposition from rural folk who'll probably be shooting to kill.

I also think shops will be bare at an early stage. How many days of stock do shops and supermarkets carry? One round of panic buying will clean out the shops and there won't be any way of restocking them.

Basically roaming the county side will get you killed, depending on left over food in shops will see you starve.

I'd go around the country saying I'm a doctor or in procession of some other vital skill.

DipStick McSwindler

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sweeney1971

A prison or an Army base would be good. Once it was cleared out. An Army base would have weapons and proper vehicles. I would then go out on raids, armed to collect food, medicines, water etc and keep stock piling.
Then ride the storm.

kildare.17hmr

sweeney1971 wrote: »

A prison or an Army base would be good. Once it was cleared out. An Army base would have weapons and proper vehicles. I would then go out on raids, armed to collect food, medicines, water etc and keep stock piling.
Then ride the storm.

The people who work in them places would have them locked down well before you got there. Chances of you gettin your hands on a service rifle would be nil. If you fancy a gun i suggest you invest in one now!!

Tigger

Not to burst bubbles but close islands don't provide protection from zeds long term .

In the countryside we have diesel and shotguns and longhandeled slash hooks so yes it wOuld be better but bring stuff to trade because it won't be a free ride.

Crooked Jack

Tigger wrote: »

Not to burst bubbles but close islands don't provide protection from zeds long term .

In the countryside we have diesel and shotguns and longhandeled slash hooks so yes it wOuld be better but bring stuff to trade because it won't be a free ride.

Do you ever f eel like the grim reaper when you hold one of those. I love it. Cheers me up no end.

Daisy M

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't think small towns and villages will be empty, the disease will have a hard time spreading in these locations. Poor public transport and the death of the rural pub means they have few chances to mingle unlike urban folk you are forced into tight confines with infected people. I think you'll met a lot of opposition from rural folk who'll probably be shooting to kill.

I also think shops will be bare at an early stage. How many days of stock do shops and supermarkets carry? One round of panic buying will clean out the shops and there won't be any way of restocking them.

Basically roaming the county side will get you killed, depending on left over food in shops will see you starve.

I'd go around the country saying I'm a doctor or in procession of some other vital skill.

I have read various book recently and some tell the story of empty shops and survivors foraging to survive while in other books shops are mainly full and untouched. Granted most of these books are set in the land of plenty that is the states but they leave me in doubt about what the reality would be.

In some books the wipeout of humans is almost an over night even. So I think in that event there would be ample supplies to be found. In other books it takes time for the outbreak to become wide spread. This gives time for people to gather supplies and clean the shops out, assuming that they feel brave enough to leave their homes and realise the enormity of what is happening.

I agree with it been harder to spread in rural areas and I think it would be easier to spot and fight off approaching zombies. But survivors would need to band together quickly and shore up defences.