MW3 F2P Weekend

Overheal

If you care.

I played for 5 minutes, and I am done. Match was ruined by a wallhacker and some very large rifle which didn't seem to mind firing through brick. Thats $40 I saved myself.

KilOit

I'll only try it if it's "pay me to play"

mrm

KilOit wrote: »

I'll only try it if it's "pay me to play"

I'm calling bullsh*t on you!

I'd say if someone puts up the money you'll still refuse!:) Ya know its true!

N64

Yeah, I played black ops when it was f2p and if mw3 is anything like it (which it probably is) then its not worth your time to download it.

gizmo

Overheal wrote: »

If you care.

I played for 5 minutes, and I am done. Match was ruined by a wallhacker and some very large rifle which didn't seem to mind firing through brick. Thats $40 I saved myself.

The Barrett .50 Cal? Pretty sure that could penetrate brick.

Was going to give it a shot alright but between my crushing level of apathy towards the series in general and chunky download in a weekend of XBL release catchups, I decided to give it a miss.

Would be interested to see if anyone went out and bought it after playing it though.

Chavways

There was one of these a few months back aswell.Spent all day friday and saturday downloading it.It came to sunday to play it and the first 3 games I got into were full of hackers.Uninstalled it straight away. Worst use of bandwidth ever...

Dcully

The series gets worse with every release, truely awful game.

ShadowHearth

I played it for a bit. It is a very very bad game. You think black ops spawn spots were bad? Well you haven't played mw3 then. It is done on purpose to spawn someone just behind you or to the sides. FOV of 60 makes it decking horrible!!! 90% of the time you get shot in the side or arse!
Community is tiny on pc too. Mostly dicks too. Then you get peer 2 peer on top of that... Winners are not the ones who good, but the ones who got best connection.

gizmo

I am correct in assuming that dedicated servers are still limited to unranked matches?

degrassinoel

Overheal wrote: »

If you care.

I played for 5 minutes, and I am done. Match was ruined by a wallhacker and some very large rifle which didn't seem to mind firing through brick. Thats $40 I saved myself.

Exact same thing happened me, gave up after around a half hour.

ED E

Played COD4, still do. Love it. Refuse to touch anything after it(played a tiny bit of 5 on 360, shocking).

grizzly

Chavways wrote: »

There was one of these a few months back aswell.Spent all day friday and saturday downloading it.It came to sunday to play it and the first 3 games I got into were full of hackers.Uninstalled it straight away. Worst use of bandwidth ever...

Yeah, wouldn't waste the bandwidth trying it. I'd played all of them from CoD2 until Black Ops. It's now a very tired forumla. Battlefield 3 ftw.

balkieb2002

Fast internet speed was my only reason for trying this though like most on here I wish I hadn't. Haven't played the series since MW2 and nothing has changed... still really hate the P2P server system.

Spent 20mins playing this (after spending 10mins trying to connect), quickly uninstalled it and went back to playing BF3!

I wonder will Black Ops 2 be more of the same sh!te?

farna_boy

It's good to know people on here aren't biased and are judging the game purely on its' own merits.

Played it for the weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it. I came across a total of three wallhackers alright but just left the game and joined a different one and avoided them for the most part. It was a free weekend though and of course this type of event will attract those types of players but playing it for 10 minutes and then rage quitting because of one player seems a bit reactionary.

Possibly the best thing about playing it during the weekend was that there was practically no waiting time when you first tried to join any game, hardcore or otherwise, something that I had never experienced before. I doubt that regular game play outside of these weekends is like that though but if it was I would be happy to buy it.

I would actually consider buying it after what I played this weekend, but while it remains at around €60, I'm not so sure.

Overheal

farna_boy wrote: »

It's good to know people on here aren't biased and are judging the game purely on its' own merits.

Played it for the weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it. I came across a total of three wallhackers alright but just left the game and joined a different one and avoided them for the most part. It was a free weekend though and of course this type of event will attract those types of players but playing it for 10 minutes and then rage quitting because of one player seems a bit reactionary.

Possibly the best thing about playing it during the weekend was that there was practically no waiting time when you first tried to join any game, hardcore or otherwise, something that I had never experienced before. I doubt that regular game play outside of these weekends is like that though but if it was I would be happy to buy it.

I would actually consider buying it after what I played this weekend, but while it remains at around €60, I'm not so sure.

Sorry, but in 5 minutes I had a wallhacker and a huge latency spike, followed by the entire game freezing like The Matrix while the whole server migrated to a new P2P host. That told me everything I needed to about the game and where I was going to spend my money. The rest of the games merits are fairly inconsequential if its going to be plagued with those types of issues.

Chavways

farna_boy wrote: »

It's good to know people on here aren't biased and are judging the game purely on its' own merits.

Played it for the weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it. I came across a total of three wallhackers alright but just left the game and joined a different one and avoided them for the most part. It was a free weekend though and of course this type of event will attract those types of players but playing it for 10 minutes and then rage quitting because of one player seems a bit reactionary.

Possibly the best thing about playing it during the weekend was that there was practically no waiting time when you first tried to join any game, hardcore or otherwise, something that I had never experienced before. I doubt that regular game play outside of these weekends is like that though but if it was I would be happy to buy it.

I would actually consider buying it after what I played this weekend, but while it remains at around €60, I'm not so sure.

Don't mean to cause a fanboy war here or anything but in 10 minutes of MW3 I encountered more hackers than I have in 120 hours of BF3.And if the whole point of the F2P weekend was to attract buyers is it not a very bad example to show to potential customers that your game is partially broken with hackers?

Overheal

And to dillute that possible flamewar: I can say the same for Monday Night Combat and TF2. Oh god, the hours I've logged in TF2. You know how many hackers I've seen in 350.1 hours of TF2? zero. And that **** is free for life now.

F1ngers

Overheal wrote: »

If you care.

I played for 5 minutes, and I am done. Match was ruined by a wallhacker and some very large rifle which didn't seem to mind firing through brick. Thats $40 I saved myself.

farna_boy wrote: »

It's good to know people on here aren't biased and are judging the game purely on its' own merits.

Played it for the weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it. I came across a total of three wallhackers alright but just left the game and joined a different one and avoided them for the most part. It was a free weekend though and of course this type of event will attract those types of players but playing it for 10 minutes and then rage quitting because of one player seems a bit reactionary.

Possibly the best thing about playing it during the weekend was that there was practically no waiting time when you first tried to join any game, hardcore or otherwise, something that I had never experienced before. I doubt that regular game play outside of these weekends is like that though but if it was I would be happy to buy it.

I would actually consider buying it after what I played this weekend, but while it remains at around €60, I'm not so sure.

Overheal wrote: »

Sorry, but in 5 minutes I had a wallhacker and a huge latency spike, followed by the entire game freezing like The Matrix while the whole server migrated to a new P2P host. That told me everything I needed to about the game and where I was going to spend my money. The rest of the games merits are fairly inconsequential if its going to be plagued with those types of issues.

In your OP you only mentioned the wallhacker, when someone said the game was not so bad(apart from the price) you counter this with a whole new spiel.
Why didn't you mention ALL the problems you encountered in the OP.
Is there anything else wrong with the game you'd like to add before someone else says something positive about the game?

Local-womanizer

F1ngers wrote: »

In your OP you only mentioned the wallhacker, when someone said the game was not so bad(apart from the price) you counter this with a whole new spiel.
Why didn't you mention ALL the problems you encountered in the OP.
Is there anything else wrong with the game you'd like to add before someone else says something positive about the game?

Not to answer on behalf of Overheal, but I found the game to be extremely frustrating.

The maps encourage camping imo, the spawn points as pointed out are terrible. Hackers etc.

That is just my opinion btw. I enjoyed Black ops online. I put a lot of hours into it. Same with COD 4 but I hated MW3. Went back and stuck with BF3 after.

Hawke

Black ops was a much more enjoyable game with much more balanced line of gun's with only 1 or 2 standouts, where as MW2+3 are unplayable unbalanced messes. Hope BO2 sticks to trayarc's way of making their games. Much better.

Overheal

F1ngers wrote: »

In your OP you only mentioned the wallhacker, when someone said the game was not so bad(apart from the price) you counter this with a whole new spiel.
Why didn't you mention ALL the problems you encountered in the OP.
Is there anything else wrong with the game you'd like to add before someone else says something positive about the game?

I didn't realize this was a kangaroo court of public opinion. I was more pissed off about the wallhacker, when someone else mentioned the P2P hosting, thats when I chose to mention it. Is that alright, your honor?

F1ngers

Overheal wrote: »

I didn't realize this was a kangaroo court of public opinion. I was more pissed off about the wallhacker, when someone else mentioned the P2P hosting, thats when I chose to mention it. Is that alright, your honor?

No kangaroo court here. M'lud...
You spent 5 mins in a game and got pee'd off by a "wallhacker" yet forget to mention other "gamebreakers".
I'm just wondering why you didn't mention them earlier..
Don't care either way, just thought it strange to offer a partial critique.

Overheal

Well for your pleasure I do play games with P2P like Space Marine, and you know what though they never bothered me in the first 5 minutes. Neither did hackers. So I was a little more peed off by the hacker. As I said. Anything else?

Hawke

Overheal wrote: »

Well for your pleasure I do play games with P2P like Space Marine, and you know what though they never bothered me in the first 5 minutes. Neither did hackers. So I was a little more peed off by the hacker. As I said. Anything else?

Its a F2P weekend which is why there was an increase in hackers, just make a new account hack, get banned, repeat. The disconnects are annoying and I think there should be a leaver status that makes people less likely to host.

Overheal

Hawke wrote: »

Its a F2P weekend which is why there was an increase in hackers, just make a new account hack, get banned, repeat. The disconnects are annoying and I think there should be a leaver status that makes people less likely to host.

F2P hasn't increased hacker activity in my other F2P games..

Hawke

Overheal wrote: »

F2P hasn't increased hacker activity in my other F2P games..

What games would those be? Some games are much harder to hack in, ones that use a lot of server side code.

Overheal

Hawke wrote: »

What games would those be? Some games are much harder to hack in, ones that use a lot of server side code.

As I mentioned earlier, I play a lot of TF2 and MNC. In over 300 hours of TF2, in 4 years, I've never seen a hacker. Least of all, a hacker that was online long enough to cause anyone grief.

Hawke

Overheal wrote: »

As I mentioned earlier, I play a lot of TF2 and MNC. In over 300 hours of TF2, in 4 years, I've never seen a hacker. Least of all, a hacker that was online long enough to cause anyone grief.

TF2 has pretty good VAC protection compared to MW3 and has much more up to date detections for newly released hacks. IW does not care about the hacks for MW3. Super MNC is pretty new for widely avaiable hacks that work and MNC is not F2P if I recall correctly.

Overheal

Hawke wrote: »

TF2 has pretty good VAC protection compared to MW3 and has much more up to date detections for newly released hacks. IW does not care about the hacks for MW3. Super MNC is pretty new for widely avaiable hacks that work and MNC is not F2P if I recall correctly.

So what you're saying is TF2 despite being about 5 years old has more up to date detection methods than a game released last holiday season. Something that when it came out was part of a pretty awesome bundle box, and by itself only cost $20, and last year became free as air. And is staffed by at most, about 20 valve employees. If that. Versus CoD, a game which by all accounts is supposed to be some great masterclass of gaming that wants people to buy in for not only $60 regularly but has been mulling the idea of an "elite" subscription package, for people who can't get enough of being shot through walls.

Proves my point. Not spending my money on CoD.

Hawke

Overheal wrote: »

So what you're saying is TF2 despite being about 5 years old has more up to date detection methods than a game released last holiday season. Something that when it came out was part of a pretty awesome bundle box, and by itself only cost $20, and last year became free as air. And is staffed by at most, about 20 valve employees. If that. Versus CoD, a game which by all accounts is supposed to be some great masterclass of gaming that wants people to buy in for not only $60 regularly but has been mulling the idea of an "elite" subscription package, for people who can't get enough of being shot through walls.

Proves my point. Not spending my money on CoD.

Uhh... I was never trying to defend COD and say it is better than TF2, all I was saying is there is of course going to be hackers on a weekend like this. Credit to the TF2 team for keep it hacker free, IW doesn't care because they just want to make more maps for more money.

gizmo

Overheal wrote: »

So what you're saying is TF2 despite being about 5 years old has more up to date detection methods than a game released last holiday season. Something that when it came out was part of a pretty awesome bundle box, and by itself only cost $20, and last year became free as air. And is staffed by at most, about 20 valve employees. If that. Versus CoD, a game which by all accounts is supposed to be some great masterclass of gaming that wants people to buy in for not only $60 regularly but has been mulling the idea of an "elite" subscription package, for people who can't get enough of being shot through walls.

Actually TF2 utilises VAC which is maintained by a completely separate and dedicated team from the core TF2 dev guys so the comparison isn't entirely accurate. Also, it is most certainly not bulletproof (pardon the pun), especially in the realm of wallhacks.

As for Elite, well that's already out and has a paid subscriber base of over 1.5m people. A rather depressing number imo.

Sabre0001

Hawke wrote: »

TF2 has pretty good VAC protection compared to MW3 and has much more up to date detections for newly released hacks. IW does not care about the hacks for MW3. Super MNC is pretty new for widely avaiable hacks that work and MNC is not F2P if I recall correctly.

Well, that's not a great sign to be honest. And in itself is enough not to buy MW3 from a free weekend where you get exposed to that reality. Anyways, Black Ops 2 will be out soon so no need to drop practically full price on a game that's going to be redundant.

Overheal

Which is that other thing, they keep putting out a new $60 title every year.

gizmo

Overheal wrote: »

Which is that other thing, they keep putting out a new $60 title every year.

Can't really blame them when close to 30m people go out and buy it every year though.

Headshot

I regret not getting a chance to play this for the F2P, I just had a **** load of other stuff to download at the time

I wanted to see was it as bad as the ps3 version.

Its a pity the series has gone down hill so much in recent times. When your using the same engine which is like what 7 years old now, its pretty bad. Unfortunately its the brand name that sells the game instead of the actual mechanics of the game

Overheal

the engine isnt necessarily the problem. the two other games I listed use the Source Engine and the Unreal Engine respectively. Both are great, and look sharp. Could say the same for MW3 actually, it was visually pleasing and ran well in of itself despite the poor online multiplayer experience.

Don't get me wrong I love it when theres a new sexy engine out that uses all the latest tech but a game is still a game.

Headshot

Oh I agree the engine isnt its biggest fault (community is) but its just pure laziness and greed that stops them improving the graphics alot.

gizmo

Headshot wrote: »

Oh I agree the engine isnt its biggest fault (community is) but its just pure laziness and greed that stops them improving the graphics alot.

Or the fact that building a multi-platform engine which continues to run at 60fps and is a meaningful visual upgrade from the current one is all but impossible on this generation of consoles?

Overheal

Yeah... but if it was designed for GFWL 2012 or higher...

see? I could see that catching on.

Magill

The problem is that there just isn't enough competition for activision. Theres a reason why CoD isn't at the top of the food chain on PC, because there are so many FPS's/MMO's/RTS's/DoTA's(Watever that genre is called) on PC which are flat out better than any of the recent CoD games. The only real competition CoD has on console is halo and maybe BF3. The only other good online games on console are fifa (And some other sports/racing games and gears of war).

Whereas on PC they have to compete with BF/CS/CS:S/CS:GO/TF2/DOD/Quakelive/Tribes/Dota/LoL/WoW/Hon/Starcraft etc for online players. Shame really.

I bought MW3 on PC (I have it on PS3 aswel) and i confirm that is equally **** on both platforms.

SeantheMan

I didn't get a chance to play it either...but ...be honest...

Would I be able to load up black ops, and pretend its MW3 ?..would I really notice a difference ?

Magill

SeantheMan wrote: »

I didn't get a chance to play it either...but ...be honest...

Would I be able to load up black ops, and pretend its MW3 ?..would I really notice a difference ?

Theres a big difference, black ops is a million times better ! (And i hear it had huge problems on PC when it launched?)

gizmo

Overheal wrote: »

Yeah... but if it was designed for GFWL 2012 or higher...

see? I could see that catching on.

Not sure what you mean?

SeantheMan wrote: »

I didn't get a chance to play it either...but ...be honest...

Would I be able to load up black ops, and pretend its MW3 ?..would I really notice a difference ?

I was under the impression Black Ops was set during the 60s so I'd imagine yes. Comparing it with MW2 is a different story but I'd imagine if you had played both for any reasonable amount of time then yes. To the casual observer? Outside of the small number of game specific tweaks? Probably not.

Overheal

gizmo wrote: »

Not sure what you mean?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78430525&postcount=26

Forest Demon

Why all the hate for MW3?

I agree on PC it is getting a raw deal as it is being held back by the consoles in regards the engine and further development. BF3 is the way to go on PC.

MW3 is a good game on console. Its the most played game every day on PS3 and XBOX because people enjoy it (simple as it is). I never see any hackers on XBOX and the game runs grand except from the very rare issue with lag compensation.

You should get on with a few mates and see if you enjoy it. The engine is the best they can manage on the current consoles at 60fps and for all the moaning it actually functions very well.

It is deffo more value at 60 quid a year then most games. Look at the amount of hours people put into it.

gizmo

Overheal wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78430525&postcount=26

So essentially "if it was designed for the PC" ?

Overheal

gizmo wrote: »

So essentially "if it was designed for the PC" ?

No, designed to run games at a reasonable spec. Not all PCs are.

gizmo

Overheal wrote: »

No, designed to run games at a reasonable spec. Not all PCs are.

Well yes, that's why we'll see a new engine when the next gen of consoles arrive with their reasonable specs.

Magill

Forest Demon wrote: »

Why all the hate for MW3?

I agree on PC it is getting a raw deal as it is being held back by the consoles in regards the engine and further development. BF3 is the way to go on PC.

MW3 is a good game on console. Its the most played game every day on PS3 and XBOX because people enjoy it (simple as it is). I never see any hackers on XBOX and the game runs grand except from the very rare issue with lag compensation.

You should get on with a few mates and see if you enjoy it. The engine is the best they can manage on the current consoles at 60fps and for all the moaning it actually functions very well.

It is deffo more value at 60 quid a year then most games. Look at the amount of hours people put into it.

Like i've said, its not like PC are getting a "raw deal", but that they have more games to choose from, so they aren't pigeon holed into a couple of games. If there was an equally large selection of (Good)online games to choose from on console then i've no doubt CoD wouldn't be anywhere near as dominant. A lot of this is due to control issues, you can't really play RTS/MMO's/DoTA styled games with a gamepad.. and even FPS games like quake/TF2/tribes would be pretty bad with a gamepad. All you really have once you take away these online based games is CoD/BF and their clones as they're pretty much the only type of games that are decent on console for online play(And sports games/Halo).

As for MW3, its really bad. I actually enjoyed black ops a lot on PS3 and MW2 a little (I had nothing else to play !). MW3 is poorly designed, maps are **** and depressing, and the poor netcode/lag compensation all add up to an overall underwelming experience.

SeantheMan

gizmo wrote: »

I was under the impression Black Ops was set during the 60s so I'd imagine yes. Comparing it with MW2 is a different story but I'd imagine if you had played both for any reasonable amount of time then yes. To the casual observer? Outside of the small number of game specific tweaks? Probably not.

It's MP is set in the 60's ?
No, I don't think so. When referring to COD I would never refer to it's SP campaign, it is an afterthought to the MP. I am not sure anyone buys COD specifically for it's engrossing SP campaign.

I have every iteration of COD, everything since MW2 (MW2 included) is all glitz and awfulness.
They need to get back to the crispness and excellence of COD4 and COD2.
Less of the levelling up, sigs, design your dogtag, killstreak etc


I played a COD4 match the other night for the first time in about 2 years (custom map league) and it was amazing.

gizmo

SeantheMan wrote: »

It's MP is set in the 60's ?
No, I don't think so. When referring to COD I would never refer to it's SP campaign, it is an afterthought to the MP. I am not sure anyone buys COD specifically for it's engrossing SP campaign.

Well in fairness you never made the distinction.

As for the SP thing, well when I eventually pick up Black Ops and MW3 I'll only be playing the campaign, not because it's engrossing or anything but I just see it as the video game equivalent of a summer blockbuster movie, dumb action packed fun. As for the MP, that just doesn't interest me at all.

SeantheMan wrote: »

I have every iteration of COD, everything since MW2 (MW2 included) is all glitz and awfulness.
They need to get back to the crispness and excellence of COD4 and COD2.
Less of the levelling up, sigs, design your dogtag, killstreak etc

I played a COD4 match the other night for the first time in about 2 years (custom map league) and it was amazing.

Aye, totally agree. Those systems have been taken to utterly obscene and at times, game breaking levels.