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Kid Goats slaughtered in Tralee back yard

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    How is this a story, ffs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Meh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    In Kerry of all places?

    I thought they worshipped goats and make one their king during the Puc Fair


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    I thought this was going to be about the Kerry babies incident. Another awful story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 638 ✭✭✭flanders1979


    you can still get crubeens there, thats worse savagery.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    youre kidding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    How is this a story, ffs.

    If you ever read the Kerryseye you would realise that this is relatively big news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    IM0 wrote: »
    youre kidding
    IM0 wrote: »
    youre kidding

    Ok ok, we heard you ffs. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    Pity it wasn't Kid Rock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭seandeas


    Bloody foreigners. They think they're still living in the third world where such things are acceptable. If they can't fit into Irish sociey and accepted norms, then they should be deported.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    Got it.

    Polish = Swans
    Africans = Goats

    The circle is complete.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Were they simply going to eat them or was it some sort of sacrificial ceremony?

    Details like this are vital!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    they were playing football werent they


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    three African nationals

    FFS, how can one be an african national? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    non nationals so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    non nationals so

    Makes no sense, either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    ****ing backward, third world, barbarians.

    Put them on a raft laced with lighter fluid and shoot some flaming arrows at it. Taste of their own medicine.

    Mod
    : Banned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    ****ing backward, third world, barbarians.

    Put them on a raft laced with lighter fluid and shoot some flaming arrows at it. Taste of their own medicine.

    Taste of their own medicine? :confused: There's no mention in the article of any floatation devices been set ablaze.

    Are ya sure you're not just a racist now, Father?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭godwin


    My old man used to slaughter animals in our back yard for years , he was a butcher in a meat factory and used to moonlight during the period coming up to xmas , nobody ever complained , possibly because we are white... but more than likely due to the fact that the housing estate was a sh1te hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Never realised you couldn't slaughter an animal yourself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    ****ing backward, third world, barbarians.

    Put them on a raft laced with lighter fluid and shoot some flaming arrows at it. Taste of their own medicine.

    Because they'll have no way to escape the fire on a raft.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,105 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Hmmm let's see - Ireland has one of the highest rates of animal cruelty incidents in Europe, one of the highest rates of stray dogs and cats and animals put down and we seem fit to moralize about others? Please.

    This is a country where fox hunting still continues, bloodsports like non-muzzle hare coursing, badger baiting and dogfighting are still widespread and cattle and horses starved to death on decrepit farms run by lunatics and senile individuals and people seem to want to point fingers at others?

    We Irish are in no position to condemn foreigners with respect to animal cruelty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    its kerry, they eat their young down there ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    seandeas wrote: »
    Bloody foreigners.
    Mod: Careful now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭blackdog2


    They should be commended for assimilating perfectly into the local society. Good on you lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Never realised you couldn't slaughter an animal yourself.

    Technically you can, but you need to abide by fairly strict rules when doing so. In any case, doing it in view or earshot of neighbors and possibly children isn't on.

    I kept a few lambs a year or so ago and when the time came for them to be slaughtered it was a lot more straightforward for me to bring them to an abattoir to have the job done than it would have been for me to legally do it myself at home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Battered Mars Bar


    Can we still chop chicken heads off now? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    ****ing backward, third world, barbarians.

    Put them on a raft laced with lighter fluid and shoot some flaming arrows at it. Taste of their own medicine.

    Mod
    : Banned
    Proper thuggish post. If that's not barbarian I don't know what is. Backward, indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Hmmm let's see - Ireland has one of the highest rates of animal cruelty incidents in Europe, one of the highest rates of stray dogs and cats and animals put down and we seem fit to moralize about others? Please.

    This is a country where fox hunting still continues, bloodsports like non-muzzle hare coursing, badger baiting and dogfighting are still widespread and cattle and horses starved to death on decrepit farms run by lunatics and senile individuals and people seem to want to point fingers at others?

    So it's only acceptable to chastise those born in Ireland when stuff like this happens? I'm a bit surprised by the restraint shown by people in regard to this.

    If the African people in the article were replaced by travelers or Irish people living in some specific estates around the country, the reaction would be entirely different.
    We Irish are in no position to condemn foreigners with respect to animal cruelty.

    Ah, sure let them at it so. Bizarre reasoning tbh. Animal cruelty is animal cruelty. It shouldn't matter what nationality the people are.. if you're against that stuff being carried out by Irish nationals then it's mental to not also be against it when carried out by non-Irish nationals.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    When in Rome:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Born to Die


    Imagine if the Gardai arrived into your house as you sat down to your mother's Sunday roast and took it away. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Meh, it's not like it doesn't happen every day in farms around the country.
    People will eat meat but when they see slaughtering at the neighbour's house they're pussies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭5live


    biko wrote: »
    Meh, it's not like it doesn't happen every day in farms around the country.
    People will eat meat but when they see slaughtering at the neighbour's house they're pussies.
    Like where exactly? Or should that be ,which country? Interesting to see some links to that:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    biko wrote: »
    Meh, it's not like it doesn't happen every day in farms around the country.
    People will eat meat but when they see slaughtering at the neighbour's house they're pussies.

    Well you might expect it on a farm, not in your neighbors back yard! I don't have children but if I did I don't think I'd appreciate them being subjected to the galling and blood-curdling screams that goats let out when they are being butchered.

    And besides, there's no indication that they were going to be used as food. Why would they kill 5 goats at one time if they just wanted to personally eat them? If they were intending on sharing the meat with others then they would have been breaking a number of laws as animals used for that purpose have to be slaughtered in an abattoir. Then there's the question of what they would have done with the carcasses.. there are very strict regulations on disposing of animal remains in these circumstances.

    Funnily enough, they'd be in less trouble if they were in fact performing some sort of ritual sacrifice, as crazy religiously motivated activities like that are exempt from animal protection laws.
    People will eat meat but when they see slaughtering at the neighbour's house they're pussies.

    I'm guessing it wouldn't be ok for me to post a video of a goat been slaughtered here? No.. didn't think so. That would be inappropriate, right?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    you can still get crubeens there, thats worse savagery.

    Mmmm... pig's trotters... :pac: nom nom.
    An underrated delicacy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,639 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    Nice. You know how difficult it is to find goatmeat in Irish butchers? Did anyone get a phone number?

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Surely you would be horrified by this OldGoat. I mean, they might've been killing your children!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    So it's only acceptable to chastise those born in Ireland when stuff like this happens? I'm a bit surprised by the restraint shown by people in regard to this.
    I'm a bit surprised that this claim of Ireland being the worst in terms of animal cruelty has passed without question despite having no source, myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,639 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    5live wrote: »
    Like where exactly? Or should that be ,which country? Interesting to see some links to that:rolleyes:
    Happens in my (urban) back garden on a regular basis. Fish, fowl, rabbits...
    Surely you would be horrified by this OldGoat. I mean, they might've been killing your children!
    Plenty more where they came from. :)

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    I'm a bit surprised that this claim of Ireland being the worst in terms of animal cruelty has passed without question despite having no source, myself.

    It's a pretty typical self-loathing type of response when stuff involving people of other nationalities comes up. You can't say anything bad about others because it might be seen as racist.. best to deflect the criticism towards the Irish instead.. they're fair game!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭p to the e


    Maybe it's the term "slaughtered" that put people off. How about "Kitten tiddled" instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭Feisar


    What's the problem, they were slaughtering/butchering their own meat?

    Hardly a story, does the KSPCA rescue all the cattle slaughtered in meat factories around the country.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Does anyone know if their actions were illegal?

    Seems stupid to start butchering while some of them were still alive, get them all killed first then start cleaning them out.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Feisar wrote: »
    Does anyone know if their actions were illegal?

    You haven't seen forms and inspections until you deal with the Department of Agriculture
    There is a form for everything ;)

    Yes it's illegal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭Feisar


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    You haven't seen forms and inspections until you deal with the Department of Agriculture
    There is a form for everything ;)

    Yes it's illegal

    But if it's for personal consumption?

    For instance, I can shoot a dear with a simple permit and butcher it for personal use without jumping trough paperwork hoops.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭Míshásta


    Irish people killed pigs in their back yards until very recently - perhaps it still goes on. The pig would be strung up by its back legs and the throat cut. Bloodcurdling screams would be heard over a long distance. People kept hens, geese and turkeys - they would also be killed/slaughtered at home.

    I'm not sure when those practices became frobidden in built-up areas, but anyone over the age of 40 in rural areas will remember them.

    Those Africans were obviously not familiar with our laws and customs here. I'm sure they wont re-offend. It wasn't a major crime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Feisar wrote: »
    For instance, I can shoot a dear with a simple permit and butcher it for personal use without jumping trough paperwork hoops.

    And how are you disposing of the offal waste?

    The days of burying dead livestock and waste are over


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    You haven't seen forms and inspections until you deal with the Department of Agriculture
    There is a form for everything ;)

    Yes it's illegal
    Have you any reason to think they didn't fill out the correct forms and make proper arrangements for disposal of waste?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Yes, if they had the forms they would have shown them to the gardaí and the KSPCA would not have taken away the kid

    And this story would have never made the news


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Yes, if they had the forms they would have shown them to the gardaí and the KSPCA would not have taken away the kid

    And this story would have never made the news
    It didn't.

    -edit-
    Oh alright, it did. Sort of, its in the online Indo.
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/garda-probe-slaughter-of-kid-goats-in-back-garden-3093750.html


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