Punchestown Day 4 - Friday 27th

ste2010

I wonder if the bank would loan me 5k to get 2k out of hurricane fly! Ryanair is a tough one to call. I can't see kumbeshwar getting into it. Menorah and first lietenant look the obvious choices with the ground a concern for menorah and last years performance in punchestown a concern for first lieutenant ...any surprises in there?

MoscowFlyer

Wouldn't surprise me if there was no racing tomorrow

NaiveMelodies

For those who are ones for the stats... Gordon Elliott's had an awful time of it at Perth so far this week, but his 28% strike rate at the course suggests he's due a winner or two tomorrow!!

If Menorah can jump a clear round, I've no doubt he'll have the class to win tomorrow.
The Fly hopefully does ok in his schooling session...
I fancy a decent performance from Beneficient tomorrow, if he isn't challenged for the lead, and there are no non runners, might be an ok each way bet.

Lapin

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

Wouldn't surprise me if there was no racing tomorrow

Its on !

Just been confirmed on Morning Ireland.

Slattsy

First Lieutenant for me. Hopefully Davy makes all and they won't get past.
Can Menorah go 2 races without falling?? Probably not lol

finbarrk

Ah great. Sunshine, time to get up and get ready for the long journey up to Punchestown. I see Willie Mullins has one off that great mare Orchestra in the bumper, Katie rides it.

RichieLawlor

This thing with First Lieutenant is weird, they can't make him into a 2 miler just because the owner has QDLR, SDC, And LI in the staying division.

ste2010

only1stevo wrote: »

For those who are ones for the stats... Gordon Elliott's had an awful time of it at Perth so far this week, but his 28% strike rate at the course suggests he's due a winner or two tomorrow!!

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Does he have any runners there today

DDC1990

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/novelty-betting/facebook-enhanced-specials/enhanced-facebook-special?ev_oc_grp_ids=479315


Paddy Power offering Hurricane Fly at Evens for a limited time.

€20 Max bet is a bit ****e, but its better than nothing, and Im sure you can do the bet a number of times.

ft9

DDC1990 wrote: »

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/novelty-betting/facebook-enhanced-specials/enhanced-facebook-special?ev_oc_grp_ids=479315


Paddy Power offering Hurricane Fly at Evens for a limited time.

€20 Max bet is a bit ****e, but its better than nothing, and Im sure you can do the bet a number of times.

I got €25 on. You can only do it once.

Tigerandahalf

How do you get that bet. No bet on that link????

MikeyGorse

Works for me.

ft9

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

How do you get that bet. No bet on that link????

Its gone now.

rickyjb

Know very little about horse racing but I'm going to Punchestown today for the first time, any tips?? Preferrably some outsiders with good odds for each way bets, thanks!:)

ft9

rickyjb wrote: »

Know very little about horse racing but I'm going to Punchestown today for the first time, any tips?? Preferrably some outsiders with good odds for each way bets, thanks!:)

Lucky William in the first 6/1

Sean Quagmire

Why would the real article (BJ Gerathy) 17.30 would be 40/1??
Its a 4 horse race like, surely he has some sort of a chance

rickyjb

ft9 wrote: »

Lucky William in the first 6/1

Thanks, does he like heavy ground?

ste2010

Sean Quagmire wrote: »

Why would the real article (BJ Gerathy) 17.30 would be 40/1??
Its a 4 horse race like, surely he has some sort of a chance

The other 3 in the race are top class. Unfortunately the signs of the real article turning into something special were not as obvious since his race in Down royal earlier In the season

ste2010

The 3rd race is lined up to be a cracker. Rebel Fitz appeals at a price ... Although all have some level of appeal. 2nd 1 1/2l to mount benbulben in his last race conceeding 3lb's. Not forgetting mount benbulben went off 3rd fav in the Albert Bartlett over 3m but didn't run any kind of a race as so many fancies do at chelt

Neo_g2001

Punchestown 6:40

If you are looking for a bit of E/W value Ted Veale at 25/1 is not a bad shout.

Loves the heavy ground. He is a new to hurdling but has some really good form on Heavy ground in NHF races.

PS: Just a fancy!

tonic wine

ft9 wrote: »

Lucky William in the first 6/1

I fancy him too at bigger odds then the first two in the market and question marks about them both.

Also Dedigout 6/1 looks better value against a very short felix younger in a extremely completive champion novice hurdle @ 6.05

Neo_g2001

I think Kumbeshwar is great value for this race, he has really good soft and heavy ground form. Alan King is working wonders with his horses this year too. For me Menorah has been lack lustre this year and I think first lieutenant wont handle the ground and also as he is not the greatest jumper I think he is open to make a mistake that will cost.

ft9

Lucky William
Hurricane Fly, Ziadpour, forecast
Felix Younger
Oscar Dara
Lughnasa

Neo_g2001

Kumbeshwar
Totally agree with FT9 and am doing the same forecast
Jenari E/W
Ted Veale E/W
Way up in the air E/W

Not the greatest day for punting but sticking to the higher odds E/W's

Backstreet Moyes

Two singles Lucky William and colour Sqaudron.

Tigerandahalf

Hard to pick anything but Willie Mullins horses are v much in form. Well worth backing anything he has.

I think Menorah won't be too inconvenienced by the ground, defo is a credible 2m horse and stays further as seen at Aintree on GS over 20f, the Punchestown fences are friendly enough too :pac:

The guts of 5/2 on Betfair is very appealing.

Neo_g2001

Neo_g2001 wrote: »

Punchestown 6:40

If you are looking for a bit of E/W value Ted Veale at 25/1 is not a bad shout.

Loves the heavy ground. He is a new to hurdling but has some really good form on Heavy ground in NHF races.

PS: Just a fancy!

Scrap the above as he has been withdrawn

Ted Dolly 16/1 E/W

BQQ

one runner race at Sandown.

Presume he still gets the prizemoney.

MoscowFlyer

ste2010 wrote: »

Does he have any runners there today

Lords Redsgirth going now at 3.45. EVEN money fav

Grey Soldier @ 4.20 around 3s

Neo_g2001

BQQ wrote: »

one runner race at Sandown.

Presume he still gets the prizemoney.

Reminds me of Eddie the Eel in the Olympics!

Neo_g2001

Neo_g2001 wrote: »

Reminds me of Eddie the Eel in the Olympics!

Or Quevega yesterday :pac:

Local_Chap

What are peolpe feeling about Hurricane Fly? Easy money? Hes currently 1/3

GMROCKS

hector says ra hoo, ra hoo, ra hoo, rahoo,let ur money go on hurricane fly easy money,ra hoo ra hoo ra hoo,,,,,,but not for me .:D

Local_Chap

Lucky William winner of the first,Blackstairmountain second,First Lieutentant third with Menorah fourth

handsomecake

kumbeshwar dead?

Da Shins Kelly

handsomecake wrote: »

kumbeshwar dead?

Didn't look too good. Very heavy fall.

the groutch

Istabraq to be paraded before the Willie Mullins schooling race

the groutch

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Didn't look too good. Very heavy fall.

got up ok according to BF forum

Da Shins Kelly

the groutch wrote: »

got up ok according to BF forum

Very good. Probably just a bit winded. Went down a bit hard.

Istabraq looks great for an aul fella!

the groutch

1000 stars for me here as a back-to-lay IR

Cheeky_gal

Ugh. Six accumulators. Three starting with Menorah and three with First Lieutenant.
Money down the drain

DDC1990

Nice win.

Easy money at evens from Paddy Power for a casual better like myself.

Tigerandahalf

Had Hurricane and Thousand Stars in forecast. TS was going to struggle once took up pace. I noticed Ruby sheltering the horse behind the others. I wonder is there a strong wind there. T Walsh prettt right. Not same horse as last year.

Mimikyu

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hefferboi

What do ye make of beneficient in the next?

GMROCKS

Jenari (IRE) take this 8/1 likes the heavy stuff.

wont now fell:mad:

tonic wine

tonic wine wrote: »

I fancy him too at bigger odds then the first two in the market and question marks about them both.

Also Dedigout 6/1 looks better value against a very short felix younger in a extremely completive champion novice hurdle @ 6.05

Get in, very nice ew double at morning prices

rickyjb wrote: »

Know very little about horse racing but I'm going to Punchestown today for the first time, any tips?? Preferrably some outsiders with good odds for each way bets, thanks!:)

Hope you were on them ricky:)

Tigerandahalf

No luck so far besides ew on Blackstair. Any tips for next couple? Have backed Ted Veale at 20/1 earlier. Looks like throwing a dart.

Shane732

You really have to love Ted Walsh!!

And Paul Carberry!!

Tigerandahalf

You wouldnt get that on SkySports!
That Robert Hall is a great presenter.