New Smoking Ban - Public Places & Beaches

Stiffler2

Knob head wants to introduce a new smoking ban which extends to public places and beaches.

WTF is this $h1t. I f00king hate this country these days, this is not the country I grew up in, it's just full of complete tards these days.

Source :

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0424/pro-smoking-group-hits-out-at-reilly-ban-plans.html

Pro-smoking group hits out at Reilly plans to ban smoking in open areas

Quote :

Forest Éireann said, unlike previous restrictions on smoking, the proposal is not evidence based, and appears to be cosmetic.

Spokesman John Mallon told RTÉ's Morning Ireland such a move would further marginalise people for the habit of smoking, which is still legal.
Mr Mallon questioned Minister Reilly's assertion that the move would de-normalise smoking for children.

"It's based on preferences and tastes, and that's quite dangerous in the area of legislation,” he said.

“Because you have to ask yourself what do you restrict next? Is the sight of a fat person sending a signal to a young child that it's okay to be overweight?

"In this case, it's a departure. It's not a case that it's bad or a danger. It just looks bad. That's very cosmetic at one level, and one wonders what else looks bad and whose tastes are we following in this."

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So they ban smoking in pubs, fine. you want us to stand outside, fine.
Now you want to ban smoking outside. Fook Off.

Next we'll have to smoke under the duvet at home.
The law used to be their to protect & serve. Now it's just there to control the masses at will.

When will the BS end, we need to get a terrorist / Sinn Féin into Gobberment immediately and get rid of all these twats by whatever means neccessary. At least we'll know where we stand with SF.

I suppose most of you agree with him though, which is sad, but Hey, that's the "Ireland" we live in today....

FatherLen

it will never happen. policing it would be impossible.

DrumSteve

They should really make you wear balloons over your heads to capture the smoke so none of the rest of us have to breathe in that ****e.

Seachmall

If they want to outlaw smoking just outlaw smoking. This pussy footing around the place is fucking stupid, and a swift "fuck off" is all that'll be received should anybody tell me I can't smoke at the end of my driveway.

demanufactured

I would support this...smoking is ****ing stupid in this day and age......stick your nose in an ashtray....thats what you smell like.

Seachmall

demanufactured wrote: »

I would support this...smoking is ****ing stupid in this day and age......stick your nose in an ashtray....thats what you smell like.

I apologise if I don't smell as you'd like, but unless we've found ourselves in a relationship with each other in the last 10 minutes then your senses are of no concern to me.

Julia London

Im an ex smoker. But i would not support/agree with dumbing down the public and imposing this law. People should execute common sense. If your smoking in a public place dont blow smoke at people have a bit of manners simple as that.
I dont think people should be smoking in their cars with children present, but again i would hope peole have sense not to do this. I wouldnt want to ban it.

Stiffler2

demanufactured wrote: »

I would support this...smoking is ****ing stupid in this day and age......stick your nose in an ashtray....thats what you smell like.

I don't care how I smell to other people because I don't give a flying F**K what other people think of me or how I smell to others.

If you don't like what you smell then move 10 metres down the road, simples. I don't like the smell of fish. I think we should ban all fishing / fish shops and gee. Is that how it works around here ??


This place is turning into North Korea.... seriously..

Conbhar

Fuk that ****e, its bad enough for those of us who do smokes, that whenever we wana have a puff on a nite out or in a pub, we all have to either go out to some overcrowded "smoking area" or fuk off outside, ***** :mad:

Guy:Incognito

Julia London wrote: »

I dont think people should be smoking in their cars with children present, but again i would hope peole have sense not to do this. I wouldnt want to ban it.

If they did then the ban woulnd effect anyone and there'd be not problem. But people are stupid.

Stiffler2 wrote: »

I don't care how I smell to other people because I don't give a flying F**K what other people think of me or how I smell to others.

If you don't like what you smell then move 10 metres down the road, simples. I don't like the smell of fish. I think we should ban all fishing / fish shops and gee. Is that how it works around here ??


This place is turning into North Korea.... seriously..

Someone eating fish beside you wont give you cancer.

davet82

ffs we're gonna die younger than you, what more do they want

Seachmall

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Someone eating fish beside you wont give you cancer.

Neither will standing 5 feet from me for 4 minutes in the open air.

jaffacakesyum

I'd support this. Why should other people suffer for your stupid choices? I don't particularly mind the smell, but I've asthma and can't stand people smoking in public places, like waiting for the bus or something. It's ridiculously rude. If I did smoke, I'd make sure not to smoke around others.

MellowToast

they should ban fat people from public places....I like this idea. the amount of smokers is going down (which i am part of) but the amount of people who are overweight is increasing, and they are much worse to look at and they do set an image standard their own kids. if the parents are fat so will the kids be because they think it is ok. well no, its not ok to be fat. i don't care about peoples self esteem, that will be solved when they get rid of the extra fat on their body and stop eating more than a body needs. a smoker can smoke anywhere they want without affecting that many people, but a fat person has to be stepped around in both physical terms and in speech. good gaud never call a fat person...fat, its a social no no apparently.

FinnLizzy

I like the smoking ban as it is. We can get away from the ****e music in nightclubs and have normal conversations, and the non-smokers have to come out to US! Muhahaha.

Julia London

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If they did then the ban woulnd effect anyone and there'd be not problem. But people are stupid.




Someone eating fish beside you wont give you cancer.

If you ban everything we will ened up with a nanny state. PC Ireland gone mad. I dont smoke now but neither do i want the government dictating out bans on everything to people. Before you know it we will be calling each other, commrade and shopping our neighbours to the fecking police 1984 style.:)

44leto

As a smoker I am for this, the smoking ban was one of FFs better things to introduce.

I suffer because of my addiction so any measure that will prevent people from taking it up I am all for.

Ban the fukcen things altogether.

Mellio

The responses of smokers is pretty normal, no one likes to be told they smell disgusting however comparing smoke to a fish and not caring what others think about them smoking in front of them is hardly acceptable.

Yes we have become a bunch of rightous idiots and we will jump on anything to be able to put down the next person but lets be honest smoking is just pumping chemicals into your lungs that are neither good for the person smoking, there kids or family nor the public from passive smoking(yes passive smoking is very real not a myth) and the environment.

I think it shouldnt be banned from public places but people shouldnt have to suffer other peoples habits so smokers should be more mindful of where they are lighting up.

Seachmall

Mellio wrote: »

however comparing smoke to a fish and not caring what others think about them smoking in front of them is hardly acceptable.

I don't like the smell of your deodorant. I demand you change it!

Do you

A) Change your deodorant.
or
Not care what I think about your deodorant.


Passive smoking is real, but standing beside me at a bus stop will not give you cancer.

I am pie

I am mystified as to why anyone would want to proudly identify themselves as a smoker. To me, more than banning cigarettes, that displays a lack of intelligence or ignorance.

I don't think you should ban smoking on beaches, bt i'd fully support a very very hefty fine for leaving butts on the sand or littering with them. Animals and children shouldn't have to put up with some moron's stinking butts.

44leto

Mellio wrote: »

The responses of smokers is pretty normal, no one likes to be told they smell disgusting however comparing smoke to a fish and not caring what others think about them smoking in front of them is hardly acceptable.

Yes we have become a bunch of rightous idiots and we will jump on anything to be able to put down the next person but lets be honest smoking is just pumping chemicals into your lungs that are neither good for the person smoking, there kids or family nor the public from passive smoking(yes passive smoking is very real not a myth) and the environment.

I think it shouldnt be banned from public places but people shouldnt have to suffer other peoples habits so smokers should be more mindful of where they are lighting up.

I am all for it, but stick to the facts, passive smoking in a public outdoor area is a negligible danger, car exhausts and industrial pollutants are a lot more riskier.

The purpose of this legislation is to stop new smokers from taking it up and that is good enough for me, as a smoker, to be for this policy.

OldGoat

Do the figures add up?
If the object of the exercise is to reduce exposure of children to the sights, sounds and smells of smokers then why pick on sites like parks and beaches where the numbers of smokers is infatisimal in comparrison to the numbers of smokers in towns and cities?

Is the Minister saying that there are more children in the parks and beaches then in the commercial centers?

If they were serious then THAT is where smokers should be targeted. Ban smoking from the streets and paths where the largest numbers of smokers are gathered..

So you have to ask yourself why they are not being serious about this. They won't ban smoking compleatly because of the loss of income.
Someone is making policy just for the sake of policy, to be seen politicing in the public eye.

jaffacakesyum

Seachmall wrote: »

I don't like the smell of your deodorant. I demand you change it!

Do you

A) Change your deodorant.
or
Not care what I think about your deodorant.


Passive smoking is real, but standing beside me at a bus stop will not give you cancer.

Bull****. Passive smoking CAN give you cancer. If you're exposed to passive smoking daily, for example at bus stops, on the street, at parties, friends smoking around you etc. you can suffer from the same effects as the person smoking.

There are something like 250 known carcinogens in one cigarette, with thousands of other chemicals that may also be possibly damaging. What makes you think that second hand smoke isn't damaging to the people around you?

Not to mention, non-Cancer relating effects. Smoking paralyses the cilia in your trachea (the things that help clear normal secretions from your lungs and mucous linings), puts you at risk of developing chest infections which could lead to pneumonia, causes vasoconstriction of your arteries (basically makes them smaller, so you're at risk to lots of things there).......I could go on.

It's INCREDIBLY ignorant to thing that second hand smoking does no damage.

HOS 1997

Is there any proof that the smoking ban has decreased the number of smokers in Ireland?

SEPT 23 1989

HOS 1997 wrote: »

Is there any proof that the smoking ban has decreased the number of smokers in Ireland?

Increased especially young women

py2006

Stiffler2 wrote: »

Knob head wants to introduce a new smoking ban which extends to public places and beaches.

WTF is this $h1t. I f00king hate this country these days, this is not the country I grew up in, it's just full of complete tards these days.

Tards throw theire finished cig butts on the ground in public places.

Seachmall

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

Bull****. Passive smoking CAN give you cancer.

Intermittent short periods of passive smoking in an outdoor area are, as 44leto said, negligible.

tfitzgerald

I Think this is part of a plan they hatched to increase the price of cigarettes . The will come back soon saying they were going to ban them but we won't instead we a going to increase the price by 1 euro . But only to encourage people to stop smoking .

44leto

OldGoat wrote: »

Do the figures add up?
If the object of the exercise is to reduce exposure of children to the sights, sounds and smells of smokers then why pick on sites like parks and beaches where the numbers of smokers is infatisimal in comparrison to the numbers of smokers in towns and cities?

Is the Minister saying that there are more children in the parks and beaches then in the commercial centers?

If they were serious then THAT is where smokers should be targeted. Ban smoking from the streets and paths where the largest numbers of smokers are gathered..

So you have to ask yourself why they are not being serious about this. They won't ban smoking compleatly because of the loss of income.
Someone making policy just for the sake of policy, to be seen politicing in the public eye.

I think it is because parks and beaches are publically owned land, towns and city paths are not.

I remember reading about this law being introduced in California and it was something similar.

But to be honest I am out of my depth. But if I am right the poor PS will not only have to leave the building to smoke, but the premise.

_sparkie_

even if it does come in there is no way to enforce it. here in hong kong you are not allowed to smoke in a good few public places like walkways, on the water front and in parks but there is just no way to stop people from doing it. you would need wardens on every street or non-smoking spot 24 hours, its just not possible.

Battered Mars Bar

They should bring in a law whereby us normal decent non smoking people can throw water balloons at people who smoke in public.