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  • 21-04-2012 3:45pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 16,220 ✭✭✭✭


    This woman killed her cat and made it into a handbag. She recieved about 100,000 hate mails. Some were extremly graphic and some were even death threats. So this is what she did.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/20/online-anonymity-death-threats
    In four years, I have received about 100,000 responses. The senders came from all walks of life. I know this because many emails automatically included a signature with a link to a personal or company website. A combination of a false sense of anonymity and the idea that everything digital is "not authentic" makes sending hate mail easy.

    I had the impression that people who described graphically how they wanted to tear me apart, rape me and have me bleed to death would not say such things to my face. One morbidly obese woman who was very active on dieting forums cursed my hideous appearance. Amateur artists argued I was a failure of an artist. Animal rights activists cursed my work, believing it encouraged animal abuse. Frequently, you could guess – through the violent scenarios described – the most recent horror movie the sender had seen.
    I decided those threats had to be turned into a book. For almost a year, the editor Coralie Vogelaar studied the contents of my mailbox and researched the writers' identities online. The hate mails were categorised, and in total we defined 12 variations of content and format, which became the book's chapters. We published not only the hate mails, but also all the information we found on the Facebook profiles, Amazon wish lists, and YouTube accounts that were linked to the email addresses. The combination of the data often gave a very comprehensive picture of the "private" lives of these people. In some instances, we even found pictures of their houses on Google maps. Most of those menacing emails were sent by people who appeared quite normal: sweet-looking teenage girls, policemen, housewives, office workers. With only a few exceptions, these were not people you would expect to brawl, let alone issue a death threat.

    I'm kinda proud that if you google my real name, the first photo that comes up is me. But at the same time, it makes you aware of the info that is out there and in this story's case what someone could do with it if they wanted to.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Very few people are aware of how traceable you are and I am always amazed at the info people put on facebook.

    What's your real name?:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    She killed her cat to make a handbag :confused:

    What a weirdo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    she let the cat out of the bag, and then turned the cat into a bag... :rolleyes:


    anyway:





    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,072 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Very few people are aware of how traceable you are and I am always amazed at the info people put on facebook.

    What's your real name?:D

    Bing Google Esq.


  • Registered Users Posts: 866 ✭✭✭Palytoxin


    Googled myself there, not in the first 10 pages of the normal part or the first 15 of the images:D, can't be bothered looking any further- I have the same name as a famous artist though so his paintings take up the first few pages:)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Immaculate Pasta


    Very few people are aware of how traceable you are and I am always amazed at the info people put on facebook.

    What's your real name?:D

    This.

    Once you get on the Google search page and it's bad, you're fucked to be honest. News stories, videos, facebook stuff. It lasts forever. All an employer has to do is search your name and you could immediately be a right off. Same for any country you want to travel to. It's scary how much it can affect your life. Like that Liam Stacey Fabrice Muamba twitter comment. Now it's all over the internet, news stories, he'll never be able to get a job or travel, you name it.

    I'm very careful about this. I don't even have a wall on facebook, I only allow people to message me, I never post statuses. I'm careful what people can search me by. Once it's in the public domain that's it.

    I think this old PIRA propaganda poster is surprisingly relevant today: http://heartsofoakandsteel.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/loosetalk.jpg

    It's important to keep your anonymity and security online :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭secretambition


    I've worked out the identities of about 7 people I know on boards. I'd never tell them or anyone else who they are, because that's not in the spirit of the thing, and I think it might be against the rules, but a few little bits of info. about where you're from, whether you're male or female, age, what you do, where you went to college, any particular hobbies you have are all it takes. People would never give out all that in one post, but they give out an individual bit, thinking that nobody could get them based on that, but not thinking about the other stuff that's logged in their post history.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Bing Google Esq.

    What a coincidence mine is Bing Google Yahoo Jeeves Esq.!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I really have to question the mind of someone who's perfectly happy to kill their pet with their own bare hands just to have a new fashion accessory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    I've come up on the second page for twitter, and 2nd page for google+ how ever my twitter and gouge plus are used a s decoy face book is crap too i have an alious for my ranty twitter page :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,220 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Very few people are aware of how traceable you are and I am always amazed at the info people put on facebook.

    What's your real name?:D

    Tell you what. If you think you can find me on google, PM me and I'll tell you if you're correct. I'll consider it a test of my anonymity :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,033 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Palytoxin wrote: »
    Googled myself there, not in the first 10 pages of the normal part or the first 15 of the images:D, can't be bothered looking any further- I have the same name as a famous artist though so his paintings take up the first few pages:)
    I come up straight away on google :( but thanks to my phobia of having my photograph taken I don't show up the in the images at all. Woo!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    She killed her cat to make a handbag :confused:

    What a weirdo.

    I don't think "weirdo" is the right word. I'd prefer "despicable", since she deprived an inoffensive pet animal of its only possession - its life - to make a fashion accessory. Kind of reminds me of a very attractive blonde woman I once saw in a hotel lobby in London. She was wearing what I thought was a full-length leopardskin coat, but also a button that said: "It's not cruelty. It's nylon.":):)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Bloody hell, talk about a reverse Streisand effect.
    We published not only the hate mails, but also all the information we found on the Facebook profiles, Amazon wish lists, and YouTube accounts that were linked to the email addresses. The combination of the data often gave a very comprehensive picture of the "private" lives of these people. In some instances, we even found pictures of their houses on Google maps.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    I don't think "weirdo" is the right word. I'd prefer "despicable", since she deprived an inoffensive pet animal of its only possession - its life - to make a fashion accessory. Kind of reminds me of a very attractive blonde woman I once saw in a hotel lobby in London. She was wearing what I thought was a full-length leopardskin coat, but also a button that said: "It's not cruelty. It's nylon.":):)

    She would remind me more of this person, tbh:

    http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Cruella-de-Vil-Wallpaper-disney-villains-976638_800_600.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    What is it with the Internet and cats? The only reason she got the death threats was because it was a cute fluffy animal. If it was a rat nobody would care.

    Most cat owners I know are slightly unhinged anyway. No surprise they go mental like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Grayson wrote: »
    Tell you what. If you think you can find me on google, PM me and I'll tell you if you're correct. I'll consider it a test of my anonymity :D


    I need a couple of clues :D


    Don't worry, all previous restraining orders were a misunderstanding.:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,053 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    She killed her cat to make a handbag :confused:

    What a weirdo.

    She killed her cat because it was ill. Since she refers to the cat as 'my dearest Pinkeltje,', I will take a punt and guess that the cat was terminally ill and probably suffering and that she did so because she wanted to end it's suffering quickly and painlessly.

    What she did was very likely just as humane - if not more so - than terrifying it by transporting it to a vet to achieve the same outcome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Grayson wrote: »
    This woman killed her cat and made it into a handbag. She recieved about 100,000 hate mails. Some were extremly graphic and some were even death threats. So this is what she did.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/20/online-anonymity-death-threats

    Truly, this person is the Attention Whore incarnate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    cnocbui wrote: »
    She killed her cat because it was ill. Since she refers to the cat as 'my dearest Pinkeltje,', I will take a punt and guess that the cat was terminally ill and probably suffering and that she did so because she wanted to end it's suffering quickly and painlessly.

    What she did was very likely just as humane - if not more so - than terrifying it by transporting it to a vet to achieve the same outcome.

    But a vet doesn't ask you what fashion accessory you would like kitty to become. Vets will also call to your home to prevent unnecessary suffering.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    cnocbui wrote: »

    What she did was very likely just as humane - if not more so - than terrifying it by transporting it to a vet to achieve the same outcome.

    She broke her pet's neck - which could have in itself gone horribly wrong and caused even more distress to the animal - rather than putting him to sleep peacefully via a fully qualified vet.

    She then skinned it and made it into a handbag. Yeah sorry, I find that extremely weird indeed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    Wait I think I found her Youtube channel (2:15).


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Donnielighto


    If you search my first name, just my first name im the 4th result on google.

    With my first name and surname I'm the whole first page.

    My name is rare though surname is common as muck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭skinny90


    http://pleaserobme.com/
    for all ye twitter users out there....try it out:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    ill tell yis its no easy thing to kill a cat, seemingly she had to do it 10 times before she could make the bag.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    ill tell yis its no easy thing to kill a cat, seemingly she had to do it 10 times before she could make the bag.
    *tumbleweed*


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    *tumbleweed*

    ohhhh i never knew that


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    I hate when people say something isn't art, but the thing in the article is twisted and self indulgent and you can call it an artwork if you can call me banging on pots and pans a musical score.

    Did remind me of this, I can't remember the spelling of the name but this work was too far for me. Its not a golden rule but I think this is a pretty good guideline that an artwork would be in some way "Aesthetically beautiful, conceptually thorough, formally simple historically apt, emotionally neutral, politically aware, observe with patience and draw with restraint".

    mouse_3.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    Are you Paul Grayson, OP? Gillians "Father".


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    how anonymous are we on boards.ie?

    ..........how much do the mods know about us?


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