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Films set in the future that got it right ?

  • 19-04-2012 7:02pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭


    Hey y'all was just watching Rollerball with friends and we where talking about films that got the future right and couldn't think of any , can you ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Demolition Man.

    Fozzydog3, you are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Mr E wrote: »
    Demolition Man.

    Fozzydog3, you are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.
    I was just typing that we're on course for this :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    I think any films set in the future which have gotten it right will be pretty dull to watch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Quite! The whole fun of the future as expressed in the past is how like the past the future tends to look. As for technology Star Trek may got somethings pretty right - what with electronic all body scans and personal communicators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Robocop is getting it right and will continue to get it right well into the future. 1. Corporations are practically the military 2. DARPA robots


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Idiocracy. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Robocop is getting it right and will continue to get it right well into the future. 1. Corporations are practically the military 2. DARPA robots 3. the buying up of public spaces by corporations, in the future we'll have corporate cities like Delta City instead of Detroit in the film and things like Big Dog to patrol them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    If I were to post seriously (for once) then I'd have to say that certain aspects of Minority Report. When it was released we all poo poo'd the touch screen interfaces and the retinal scanning devices and auto-pilot cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭kevohmsford


    Minority Report


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭kevohmsford




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,823 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    The stuff they got right in minority report wasn't an accident or just guesswork... They consulted with tech firms about what was probably coming down the track in the future....

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    V for Vendetta seems more and more plausible as days go by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭OldeCinemaSoz


    david carradine as frankenstein seemed to get evrything right.

    Splat!

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭Boo Radley


    Markcheese wrote: »
    The stuff they got right in minority report wasn't an accident or just guesswork... They consulted with tech firms about what was probably coming down the track in the future....

    They got it right then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭kitakyushu


    Idiocracy (as mentioned)
    The Running man (1987) (very close)
    Things to come (1936) (lots of misses and lots of hits)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,075 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Here's one that I hope is wrong: The Postman. :o

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    The very first science fiction film, Georges Méliès' A Trip To The Moon, would have been considered a fantasy when it was premiered in 1902.



    Who knows, maybe in a hundred years time Total Recall won't seem so outlandish!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Until The End Of The World

    Digital Cameras with colour LCD screens, GPS standard in cars, Being able to monitor dreams-ish, extensive network integration (The detective able to tracethe girl instantly through credit card uploads). Alright, it wasn't a huge leap (It was filmed in 1991) but it was still accurate in how ubiquitous these would be.

    Minority Report was an awesome image of the future, especially regarding advertising. I had heard that the movie budget was already covered by the product placement in the movie but I thought this actually worked in favour of the movie. The whole personalising of the advertising was something that is surely something that will come down the line eventually if biometrics ever takes off outside of official uses (Hell, just look at how your advertising on your browser is customised by your browser cookies)

    The only thing I didn't like about Minority Report was the vertical cars. Pity 'cos it was so feasable up till then


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Minority Report was an awesome image of the future, especially regarding advertising. I had heard that the movie budget was already covered by the product placement in the movie but I thought this actually worked in favour of the movie.

    Spielberg claimed there was no paid product placement in Minority Report. Although the production costs were certainly reduced thanks to Lexus and other brands designing and providing all the futuristic goodies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Goldstein


    19 years later and I'm still trying to work out how you wipe your ass with three seashells...?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Goldstein wrote: »
    19 years later and I'm still trying to work out how you wipe your ass with three seashells...?

    Doesn't know how to use the three sea-shells. Lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Planet Of The Apes

    Our leaders are only a few generations away from walking around on their knuckles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Planet Of The Apes

    Our leaders are only a few generations away from walking around on their knuckles.
    Some of them already do....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Goldstein wrote: »
    19 years later and I'm still trying to work out how you wipe your ass with three seashells...?

    Stallone actually revealed how you were supposed to use them a year or 2 ago and somebody was nice enough to make a picture :D:

    i-mockery-three-seashells.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭gremha


    Goldstein wrote: »
    19 years later and I'm still trying to work out how you wipe your ass with three seashells...?

    One up, One down, One to polish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    gremha wrote: »
    One up, One down, One to polish.

    Dave Lister about Arnold Judas R?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Fozzydog3


    Goldstein wrote: »
    19 years later and I'm still trying to work out how you wipe your ass with three seashells[/S]Why the hell he didnt see his daughter!!!...?[/QUOTE]

    mustnt have loved her very much if all she gets is a fleeting mention on the way to taco bell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭Ste-


    Back to the future.

    Now where did I leave my hoverboard.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭armitage_skanks


    chin_grin wrote: »
    If I were to post seriously (for once) then I'd have to say that certain aspects of Minority Report. When it was released we all poo poo'd the touch screen interfaces and the retinal scanning devices and auto-pilot cars.

    If I recall, Minority Report had floating displays rather than touchscreens and you manipulated things by putting on special gloves and waving your arms about. That's never going to catch on because holding your arms in the air is very tiring.

    Yeah, he was moving separate windows and elements around the screen and resizing, but that has been around since the earliest GUIs pretty much.

    Retinal scanners already existed for decades.

    And self-driving cars had already done thousands of miles on public roads by the mid 90s so I don't know about you but I certainly wasn't poo-pooing the concept in 2002 or whenever it came out.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Not sure about getting it right, but as a sci-fi lover a massive pet peeve of mine is / was when creators would set their stories far too close to contemporary times, nearly always resulting in hilariously inaccurate future visions. The 1960s seemed to be guilty of a lot of this sort of thing, I guess the speed of the Space Race made peoples' imaginations run wild. Shame to think it all petered out.

    And 1984? Not even close. If anything we're moving further away from 1984 as much as we might like to crow about censorship & civil freedoms being lost. The internet would be a large part of that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    If I recall, Minority Report had floating displays rather than touchscreens and you manipulated things by putting on special gloves and waving your arms about. That's never going to catch on because holding your arms in the air is very tiring.

    Yeah, he was moving separate windows and elements around the screen and resizing, but that has been around since the earliest GUIs pretty much.

    Retinal scanners already existed for decades.

    And self-driving cars had already done thousands of miles on public roads by the mid 90s so I don't know about you but I certainly wasn't poo-pooing the concept in 2002 or whenever it came out.

    Well, the Xbox Kinect is out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Davyhal


    Ste- wrote: »
    Back to the future.

    Now where did I leave my hoverboard.

    Back to the Future 2 actually.... God, how embarrassing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,196 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Soylent Green...






    ... mmmm.. tastes like chicken!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Not sure about getting it right, but as a sci-fi lover a massive pet peeve of mine is / was when creators would set their stories far too close to contemporary times, nearly always resulting in hilariously inaccurate future visions. The 1960s seemed to be guilty of a lot of this sort of thing, I guess the speed of the Space Race made peoples' imaginations run wild. Shame to think it all petered out.

    And 1984? Not even close. If anything we're moving further away from 1984 as much as we might like to crow about censorship & civil freedoms being lost. The internet would be a large part of that

    How 1984 got it right:

    A permanant state of war that never ends: eg Iraq and Afghanistan, "war on terror".
    Prediction: Spot on.

    Surveillance culture
    : Tories in Britain want to bring in the holding onto and reading of all email traffic. Patriot Act in America.
    Prediction: Spot on.

    Double speak and double think.
    Disgusting terms like collateral damage for mass murder of civilians.
    Prediction: Spot on.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Kinski


    pixelburp wrote: »
    And 1984? Not even close. If anything we're moving further away from 1984 as much as we might like to crow about censorship & civil freedoms being lost. The internet would be a large part of that

    Orwell wrote 1984 in 1948. You see what he did there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    If I recall, Minority Report had floating displays rather than touchscreens and you manipulated things by putting on special gloves and waving your arms about. That's never going to catch on because holding your arms in the air is very tiring.

    What about Kinect?
    Yeah, he was moving separate windows and elements around the screen and resizing, but that has been around since the earliest GUIs pretty much.

    Yes, but not in the way we do today with touch screen technology. Not via a mouse.
    Retinal scanners already existed for decades.

    And self-driving cars had already done thousands of miles on public roads by the mid 90s so I don't know about you but I certainly wasn't poo-pooing the concept in 2002 or whenever it came out.

    Well if they were around back then why aren't there more auto cars on the road today? Sure there are ones that can automatically park for you, but my point was that back then it wasn't feasible that we'd see them in practise or utilise the technology.

    I think we'd just look back on Minority Report today and it'd have less of a technological impact as it did when it first came out.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,018 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Not entirely in line with the question, but I've always been impressed at how perceptive and forward thinking The Truman Show was. OK, reality TV as a concept existed for several years prior to its production (the Real World, notably) but The Truman Show was made a year before the Dutch debut of Big Brother, and a number of years before the true explosion of 24-hours a day broadcasting. Perhaps more disturbing is the way it portrays audience consumption of these shows.

    If The Truman Show was released today, it will likely still be seen as perceptive and reactionary. That it was made fifteen (!) years-ago, in an entirely different social space, is to me a great achievement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭armitage_skanks


    chin_grin wrote: »
    What about Kinect?
    Its a novelty/gaming thing rather than a practical way of interacting with a computer isnt it? I mean you don't wave your hands around in the air when you want to type an email or look something up. When you want to delete something you don't make an exaggerated gesture like you're throwing it out the window. That was how Minority Report presented computer interaction.

    For them to have 'got it right' would require that people interact with their computers by making gestures in the air. It hasn't happened yet so I don't think you could say they have gotten it right. And I wouldn't expect it to happen because its very tiring.
    Yes, but not in the way we do today with touch screen technology. Not via a mouse.

    Again, how does that mean they have gotten it right. We were already moving windows around and resizing decades before Minority Report. So their prediction was that we would be moving windows around by making wild gestures in the air. They got it wrong.
    Well if they were around back then why aren't there more auto cars on the road today? Sure there are ones that can automatically park for you, but my point was that back then it wasn't feasible that we'd see them in practise or utilise the technology.

    Well it was feasible to imagine them in use in the future, as ive already said various research projects had put thousands of miles on public roads by the mid 90s. It wasnt a far-fetched prediciton of the future.

    And auto-pilot cars are not in general use today so I don't see how it can be an example of Minority Report getting it right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Kinect shows that its coming down the line and possibly become more mainsteam in future


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭armitage_skanks


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Kinect shows that its coming down the line and possibly become more mainsteam in future

    Shows that what is coming down the line?

    The discussion is regarding Minority Report. They would stand in front of a hologram screen and wave their hands left or right to move things around on screen.

    Kinect doesnt convince me that's how I will be using a computer any time in the future. I'd prefer to sit at a desk and make small movements with a mouse/keyboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    We'll all be sticking to keyboard and mouse so!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    Until The End Of The World

    Digital Cameras with colour LCD screens, GPS standard in cars, Being able to monitor dreams-ish, extensive network integration (The detective able to tracethe girl instantly through credit card uploads). Alright, it wasn't a huge leap (It was filmed in 1991) but it was still accurate in how ubiquitous these would be.

    Yes, so good was it that you forget watching it that that stuff was not available then ( though it was in the pipeline).
    The only thing I didn't like about Minority Report was the vertical cars. Pity 'cos it was so feasable up till then

    My peeve, too
    pixelburp wrote: »
    Not sure about getting it right, but as a sci-fi lover a massive pet peeve of mine is / was when creators would set their stories far too close to contemporary times, nearly always resulting in hilariously inaccurate future visions. The 1960s seemed to be guilty of a lot of this sort of thing, I guess the speed of the Space Race made peoples' imaginations run wild. Shame to think it all petered out.

    Thats because technology has slowed down. When someone in 1960 looked forward to 2010 he looked forward to a time equidistant from him as 1910, and it made sense, then, to assume acceleration in economic and technological growth. Instead we slowed down. On the bright side, we didn't have major world wars in that 50 years.
    How 1984 got it right:

    A permanant state of war that never ends: eg Iraq and Afghanistan, "war on terror".
    Prediction: Spot on.
    [/B]

    They seem to be ending, and don't involve you anyway.
    Surveillance culture: Tories in Britain want to bring in the holding onto and reading of all email traffic. Patriot Act in America.
    Prediction: Spot on.

    Not quite the same as 1984, where everybody was being watched all the time by the TVs ( on that subject he got TVs right).
    Double speak and double think.
    Disgusting terms like collateral damage for mass murder of civilians.
    Prediction: Spot on.

    NEWSPEAK removed all other words, that hasn't happened. 1984 is happening now, in North Korea, just not anywhere else. Were it happening you wouldn't be comfortable saying it was happening on the internet. Which wouldn't exist.

    To my mind minority report is the best example, although the vertical cars made no sense. I also liked the fact that they kept Victorian housing, that's not going to go away in the future, not more than it has gone away now. Too many science fiction is self aware of being in the future, and never show the past.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    How 1984 got it right:

    A permanant state of war that never ends: eg Iraq and Afghanistan, "war on terror".
    Prediction: Spot on.

    Surveillance culture
    : Tories in Britain want to bring in the holding onto and reading of all email traffic. Patriot Act in America.
    Prediction: Spot on.

    Double speak and double think.
    Disgusting terms like collateral damage for mass murder of civilians.
    Prediction: Spot on.

    Not really the forum for this sort of thing, but to be honest you're taking very isolated incidents & trying to see some form of pattern. Especially seeing two very unpopular wars as being indicative of the kind of neverending, faceless war of Orwell's book. If anything we're living in one of more relatively peaceful periods in history.

    And I certainly don't think political euphemisms are a version of Newspeak.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Orwell didn't intend 1984 as a vision of the future but of the (then) present: 1948. As far as he was concerned, governments had been doing all that stuff for years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Yes, so good was it that you forget watching it that that stuff was not available then ( though it was in the pipeline).



    My peeve, too



    Thats because technology has slowed down. When someone in 1960 looked forward to 2010 he looked forward to a time equidistant from him as 1910, and it made sense, then, to assume acceleration in economic and technological growth. Instead we slowed down. On the bright side, we didn't have major world wars in that 50 years.



    They seem to be ending, and don't involve you anyway.



    Not quite the same as 1984, where everybody was being watched all the time by the TVs ( on that subject he got TVs right).



    NEWSPEAK removed all other words, that hasn't happened. 1984 is happening now, in North Korea, just not anywhere else. Were it happening you wouldn't be comfortable saying it was happening on the internet. Which wouldn't exist.

    To my mind minority report is the best example, although the vertical cars made no sense. I also liked the fact that they kept Victorian housing, that's not going to go away in the future, not more than it has gone away now. Too many science fiction is self aware of being in the future, and never show the past.
    '


    How dare you say "Dont involve me" as a decent human being I deplore the murder of civilians for these poxy wars unlike you obviously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    '


    How dare you say "Dont involve me" as a decent human being I deplore the murder of civilians for these poxy wars unlike you obviously.

    They don't involve you because you are not an American, or British. Also, piss off to some political thread and let this light hearted thread continue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Orwell didn't intend 1984 as a vision of the future but of the (then) present: 1948. As far as he was concerned, governments had been doing all that stuff for years.

    I know I was merely pointing out that the stuff he highlighted is still happening and as you can see is still supported by some of the people on this forum, shame on these sick people who support this fascism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Not really the forum for this sort of thing, but to be honest you're taking very isolated incidents & trying to see some form of pattern. Especially seeing two very unpopular wars as being indicative of the kind of neverending, faceless war of Orwell's book. If anything we're living in one of more relatively peaceful periods in history.

    And I certainly don't think political euphemisms are a version of Newspeak.

    We are living in the most peaceful time in history



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    They don't involve you because you are not an American, or British. Also, piss off to some political thread and let this light hearted thread continue.

    I have a right to my opinion as much as the likes of you. Because your American or British doesn't give you the right to murder civilians btw.


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