Colts Trade Block

McG

I won't be agreeing to anything until progressions are done (unless you're crazy about one of my guys and are willing to overpay)

Mike Wallace - 93 - WR - A - Speed 98
Johnny Knox - 84 - WR - A - Speed 97
Steve Gregory - 75 - SS - B - Pursuit 86
Winston Justice - 73 - RT - B
Christian Ponder - 76 - QB - A - Good accuracy short and medium and can throw on the run
Matt Hill - 74 - QB - B - Good on mid and long throws
Philip Rivers - 96 - QB - A - If I get substantial improvement out of either of my other two QBs I'll look to cash in on Rivers
Nate Livings - 79 - LG - B
Terrence Cody - 73 - DT - B - 360 pounds! Ravens, you know you want him!
Montra Haynes - 79 - DT - B
Nick Cole - 74 - C - C


Have no particular needs at the moment (may change if any of my players retire or deteriorate after progressions) so right now probably only interested in elite players that would be an obvious upgrade.

All my players under 75 overall are available as part of any trade.

would be very unlikely to let go of 2 players from the same position (e.g. Wallace or Knox, not both)

have a look at my roster for terrence cody dt

McG

Spencer Round Marshmallow wrote: »

have a look at my roster for terrence cody dt

Cody is definitely surplus to requirements for me so I'll be happy to trade him to you. We can wait till we see the progressions or you can have him now for your #2 pick.

McG

McG wrote: »

Cody is definitely surplus to requirements for me so I'll be happy to trade him to you. We can wait till we see the progressions or you can have him now for your #2 pick.

i think my number 2 pick is gone il have to check is there anyone you like on my roster

matthew8

I like this Knox guy, and Matt Hill. Anyone you want on my roster? You seem to be throwing out the speed at WR so maybe you'd like Wes Welker and something else?

McG

matthew8 wrote: »

I like this Knox guy, and Matt Hill. Anyone you want on my roster? You seem to be throwing out the speed at WR so maybe you'd like Wes Welker and something else?

I could definitely be interested in Welker. He'd probably be a better match for Wallace than Knox (both are too similar). Won't be agreeing to anything though till progressions are done.

matthew8

McG wrote: »

I could definitely be interested in Welker. He'd probably be a better match for Wallace than Knox (both are too similar). Won't be agreeing to anything though till progressions are done.

What do you want to go with Welker? Would you be interested in upgrading to Harper at SS? He's A potential so he should progress from 85, as should your current starter.

I know we're not agreeing to anything yet but I just want something in place.

McG

matthew8 wrote: »

McG wrote: »

I could definitely be interested in Welker. He'd probably be a better match for Wallace than Knox (both are too similar). Won't be agreeing to anything though till progressions are done.

What do you want to go with Welker? Would you be interested in upgrading to Harper at SS? He's A potential so he should progress from 85, as should your current starter.

I know we're not agreeing to anything yet but I just want something in place.

That sounds like it might work. Not at a PC now but will look over proposal numbers on the morning.

matthew8

McG wrote: »

That sounds like it might work. Not at a PC now but will look over proposal numbers on the morning.

Sorry about this, I could swear I put it in my last post, but it seems I didn't. I may need need another strong safety to replace harper, so I'd like to wait on the progressions, I think Gregory and Mays will both progress well for you but I have a B potential SS who could progress either.

McG

matthew8 wrote: »

Sorry about this, I could swear I put it in my last post, but it seems I didn't. I may need need another strong safety to replace harper, so I'd like to wait on the progressions, I think Gregory and Mays will both progress well for you but I have a B potential SS who could progress either.

Knox + Hill for Welker plus a pick might work. We'll have a clearer idea after progressions

EDIT: If you have an offer pre progressions I'll listen (bear in mind Hill should definitely improve, Knox probably will and Welker may drop a little at his age).

Need to keep up with the neighbours (Texans and Titans making big moves already in my division)

McG

Spencer Round Marshmallow wrote: »

i think my number 2 pick is gone il have to check is there anyone you like on my roster

No big needs (at least until progressions are done) so the only players on your side I'd be interested in right now are some of your top guys like:

Snee RG
Clemons LE
Ryans MLB
Scott RE
Jackson CB
Bironas K

any deal involving them would certainly be more complicated than a swap so have a look at the rest of my roster and see if you can come up with something (including my/your picks).

McG

McG wrote: »

No big needs (at least until progressions are done) so the only players on your side I'd be interested in right now are some of your top guys like:

Snee RG
Clemons LE
Ryans MLB
Scott RE
Jackson CB
Bironas K

any deal involving them would certainly be more complicated than a swap so have a look at the rest of my roster and see if you can come up with something (including my/your picks).

ok how about you get

clemons de 91
and jacobs hb 80(possibly the best short yardage back in the game)

for
cody dt 73
jones hb 75
and hall cb 88

McG

Spencer Round Marshmallow wrote: »

on how abut you get

clemons de 91
and jacobs hb 80(possibly the best short yardage back in the game)

for
cody dt 73
jones hb 75
and hall cb 88

I can include Jones in any trade but can't afford to let Hall go.

Clemons for Cody, Jones + ? (pick or player)

McG

McG wrote: »

I can include Jones in any trade but can't afford to let Hall go.

Clemons for Cody, Jones + ? (pick or player)

ok how about you get

clemons de 91
jacobs hb 80(possibly the best short yardage back in the game)
sean jones ss 80
and my 3rd (first user pick or the round)


for
cody dt 73
jones hb 75
mays ss 79
knox wr 84
and your second
i think were close enough to a deal just have to tweak it a bit if it dosent suit you

McG

Spencer Round Marshmallow wrote: »

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i think were close enough to a deal just have to tweak it a bit if it dosent suit you

This is getting very complicated. I have another possible trade involving Knox so I'd rather not include him. I'm not very interested in Jacobs as I don't usually change my RBs too much. And I don't want to give up too much for a 32 year old before we see progressions.

How about Ryans MLB (86) for Cody DT (73) and Siler MLB (79)?

McG

McG wrote: »

This is getting very complicated. I have another possible trade involving Knox so I'd rather not include him. I'm not very interested in Jacobs as I don't usually change my RBs too much. And I don't want to give up too much for a 32 year old before we see progressions.

How about Ryans MLB (86) for Cody DT (73) and Siler MLB (79)?

id be slow to trade ryans if you have a variation on a clemons trade or a scott trade id be interested

helimachoptor

Lads get a room :pac:
McG you're head will be spinning from all the permutations tomorrow!

McG

Spencer Round Marshmallow wrote: »

id be slow to trade ryans if you have a variation on a clemons trade or a scott trade id be interested

Scott RE (84) + 3rd round pick for Cody DT (73) + Odom RE (82) ?

McG

helimachoptor wrote: »

Lads get a room :pac:
McG you're head will be spinning from all the permutations tomorrow!

It really will be! I shouldn't have gone near trades till after playoffs!

It's hard work this trade thing, trying to find a fair price on either side.

McG

McG wrote: »

Scott RE (84) + 3rd round pick for Cody DT (73) + Odom RE (82) ?

i like that if we can work jones hb into it for something

McG

Spencer Round Marshmallow wrote: »

i like that if we can work jones hb into it for something

ok. Not sure if this is something you'll be interested in but I can't find too many outside your top 4 or 5 I'd be all that interested in


Cody (73) + Jones (75) + Odom (82)
for
Scott (84) + Jackson (80)

McG

McG wrote: »

ok. Not sure if this is something you'll be interested in but I can't find too many outside your top 4 or 5 I'd be all that interested in


Cody (73) + Jones (75) + Odom (82)
for
Scott (84) + Jackson (80)

i cant give up jackson my secondary would be non existant without him keep looking
id give scott my 3rd(first user pick almost a 2nd)+maby a 3rd next year or one of my other corners

McG

Spencer Round Marshmallow wrote: »

i cant give up jackson my secondary would be non existant without him keep looking
id give scott my 3rd(first user pick almost a 2nd)+maby a 3rd next year or one of my other corners

have good corners already so only interested if I can get a very good one.
I'm really struggling to up with something fair (that doesn't leave me with a gap somewhere. Jones will have to be replaced but I'm not keen on Jacobs before we see pregressions. Cody does not need to be replaced, I'm good at DT).


Cody (73) + Jones (75) + Odom (82) + Brown [C] (86) + 3rd rounder
for
Scott (84) + Mangold (97)


... that's me done for a while. if that doesn't work fire up a few suggestions and I'll have a look when I get a chance.

McG

McG wrote: »

have good corners already so only interested if I can get a very good one.
I'm really struggling to up with something fair (that doesn't leave me with a gap somewhere. Jones will have to be replaced but I'm not keen on Jacobs before we see pregressions. Cody does not need to be replaced, I'm good at DT).


Cody (73) + Jones (75) + Odom (82) + Brown [C] (86) + 3rd rounder
for
Scott (84) + Mangold (97)


... that's me done for a while. if that doesn't work fire up a few suggestions and I'll have a look when I get a chance.

no sorry its a decent deal but mangold is my only untouchable

il think up a few new ideas get back to me when you can

matthew8

Would you give me Montra Haynes for Felix Jones?

McG

matthew8 wrote: »

Would you give me Montra Haynes for Felix Jones?

Yeah. That suits me, need a backup for McFadden now that Jones is gone.

matthew8

McG wrote: »

Yeah. That suits me, need a backup for McFadden now that Jones is gone.

So we'll wait until the progressions and do it, will we?

McG

matthew8 wrote: »

So we'll wait until the progressions and do it, will we?

no need in this trade unless you want to. They're both B potential and neither of them are too old so I'm happy to go ahead now and take the chace.

matthew8

McG wrote: »

no need in this trade unless you want to. They're both B potential and neither of them are too old so I'm happy to go ahead now and take the chace.

Alright, are you able to now? I can do it in the next 10 minutes, after that I have my plate match.

EDIT: Sorry I'm an idiot you're in playoffs.

McG

matthew8 wrote: »

Alright, are you able to now? I can do it in the next 10 minutes, after that I have my plate match.

EDIT: Sorry I'm an idiot you're in playoffs.

Yeah, I think the Titans might object to that! :P

helimachoptor

McG wrote: »

Yeah, I think the Titans might object to that! :P

You're lucky mcg I was getting schaub and mjd!!!

McG

helimachoptor wrote: »

You're lucky mcg I was getting schaub and mjd!!!

that's some rebuilding Matthew's doing at the Raiders. We need a wheeler dealer award or something.

matthew8

McG wrote: »

that's some rebuilding Matthew's doing at the Raiders. We need a wheeler dealer award or something.

As is the usual deal with the Raiders, after a 9-7 season and missing the playoffs we simply had to fire the whole staff and many players.

BigBadRob83

Hey McG, if you have Felix Jones, any interest in trading his cousing Taiwan Jones?

McG

BigBadRob83 wrote: »

Hey McG, if you have Felix Jones, any interest in trading his cousing Taiwan Jones?

he's on his way to the Redskins, which is why I felt I needed to accept Felix trade

McG

Mike Wallace - 93 - WR - A - Speed 98
*Johnny Knox - 84 - WR - A - Speed 97
Steve Gregory - 75 - SS - B - Pursuit 86
Winston Justice - 73 - RT - B
Christian Ponder - 76 - QB - A - Good accuracy short and medium and can throw on the run
*Matt Hill - 74 - QB - B - Good on mid and long throws
Philip Rivers - 96 - QB - A - If I get substantial improvement out of either of my other two QBs I'll look to cash in on Rivers
Nate Livings - 79 - LG - B
Terrence Cody - 73 - DT - B
Montra Haynes - 79 - DT - B
Nick Cole - 74 - C - C
Antwan Odom - 82 - RE - B


OUT:
Taiwan Jones (HB) -> Redskins
Montra Haynes (DT) -> Raiders
Terrence Cody (DT) -> Redskins
Antwan Odom (RE) -> Falcons

IN:
Felix Jones (HB) <- Raiders
Trevor Scott (RE) <- Redskins
Clifton Ryan (DT) <- Falcons


* Deal in works.

matthew8

Getting back to our potential deal Colts, you want Roman Harper and Wes Welker right? I wanted Hill and Knox. I think that trade is more favourable to you than it is to me, so I'd like Taylor Mays and I'll give you the Bengals second round pick, and they are in slot 21 or 22.

McG

matthew8 wrote: »

Getting back to our potential deal Colts, you want Roman Harper and Wes Welker right? I wanted Hill and Knox. I think that trade is more favourable to you than it is to me, so I'd like Taylor Mays and I'll give you the Bengals second round pick, and they are in slot 21 or 22.

No, was never interested in Harper.

Just Welker + ? for Knox and Hill.

I'd take a 3rd round pick with him now or we can wait till after progressions to see if Welker regresses and how much my 2 guys improve.

matthew8

McG wrote: »

Just Welker + ? for Knox and Hill.

I'd take a 3rd round pick with him now

Deal. EDIT: What a shame, I have no third round pick. I guess I'll just have to give you a second.

McG

matthew8 wrote: »

Deal. EDIT: What a shame, I have no third round pick. I guess I'll just have to give you a second.

cool. suits me

Hill and Knox for Welker and 2nd rounder

The Colts beat the Titans tonight so we'll have to hold off on completing these for a little while yet.

matthew8

Colts you will be using the Bengals pick by the way. I could give you the Titans but that would be mean on them.

McG

Mike Wallace - 93 - WR - A - Speed 98
Johnny Knox - 84 - WR - A - Speed 97
Christian Ponder - 76 - QB - A - Good accuracy short and medium and can throw on the run
Matt Hill - 74 - QB - B - Good on mid and long throws
Philip Rivers - 96 - QB - A - If I get substantial improvement out of either of my other two QBs I'll look to cash in on Rivers
Terrence Cody - 73 - DT - B
Montra Haynes - 79 - DT - B
Antwan Odom - 82 - RE - B
Steve Gregory - 75 - SS - B - Pursuit 86
Winston Justice - 73 - RT - B
Nick Cole - 74 - C - C
Nate Livings - 79 - LG - B


OUT:
Taiwan Jones (HB) -> Redskins
Montra Haynes (DT) -> Raiders
Terrence Cody (DT) -> Redskins
Antwan Odom (RE) -> Falcons
Johnny Knox (WR) -> Raiders
Matt Hill (QB) -> Raiders

IN:
Felix Jones (HB) <- Raiders
Trevor Scott (RE) <- Redskins
Clifton Ryan (DT) <- Falcons
Wes Welker (WR) <- Raiders
Bengals 2nd Round Pick <- Raiders

Not much left on my board now. I think I've lost a little depth but improved on 2 starters (RE and WR) and 2 backups (marginal improvement at HB and DT). I've also picked up a second round pick which might turn out to be useful. So far content with my progress and happy that I haven't created any new needs to be filled at draft so my picks are there to replace retired or regressed players.

matthew8

I just looked at Terrence Cody there out of interest and he has insane key stats in block shedding and power moves, but jesus christ that guy must be the slowest in the game.

McG

matthew8 wrote: »

I just looked at Terrence Cody there out of interest and he has insane key stats in block shedding and power moves, but jesus christ that guy must be the slowest in the game.

360lbs is tough to move.

matthew8

McG wrote: »

360lbs is tough to move.

Try saying that to Haloti Ngata.

matthew8

McG wrote: »

360lbs is tough to move.

Infact I just noticed he is equal to Casey Hampton in a lot of very important stats. I think anyone running the 3-4 should definitely consider trading for him.

Shane.C

Would you be interested in Elvis Dumervil? RE 95 Ovr, My elite D Lineman, I'm in need of a MLB.

McG

Shane.C wrote: »

Would you be interested in Elvis Dumervil? RE 95 Ovr, My elite D Lineman, I'm in need of a MLB.

Too big a drop at MLB for a straight swap (Urlacher has been my most important D player every season)

Might do Urlacher (MLB 94) + Scott (RE 85) for Dumervil (RE 95) + Vilma (MLB 85)

Shane.C

Yea i understand, i don't wanna lose any MLB, so i can't accept.

McG

Mike Wallace - 93 - WR - A - Speed 98
Johnny Knox - 84 - WR - A - Speed 97
Christian Ponder - 80 - QB - A
Matt Hill - 74 - QB - B
Philip Rivers - 96 - QB - A
Terrence Cody - 73 - DT - B
Montra Haynes - 79 - DT - B
Antwan Odom - 82 - RE - B
Steve Gregory - 77 - SS - B
Winston Justice - 73 - RT - B
Nick Cole - 74 - C - C
Nate Livings - 79 - LG - B
Pacman Jones - 73 - CB
Neil Rackers - 80 - K
Tony Scheffler - 76 - TE
Demetris Banks - 74 - HB


OUT:
Taiwan Jones (HB) -> Redskins
Montra Haynes (DT) -> Raiders
Terrence Cody (DT) -> Redskins
Antwan Odom (RE) -> Falcons
Johnny Knox (WR) -> Raiders
Matt Hill (QB) -> Raiders

IN:
Felix Jones (HB) <- Raiders
Trevor Scott (RE) <- Redskins
Clifton Ryan (DT) <- Falcons
Wes Welker (WR) <- Raiders
Johnny Patrick (CB) <- Bengals

Needs:
No pressing needs but would be happy to part with a combination of the players left on my block for:
FB, WR in mid 70s or above.
RG, RT, OLB, FS in high 70s or above.