Premiership players ready for a "Big Club"

Sgt Pepper 64

Late night drunken debate
"name 5 players ready for a big club"
Apologies to supporters of the players clubs, but you know what I mean

1/ Junior Hoilett - Blackburn
2/ Moussa Dembele - Fulham
3/ Sessegnon - Sunderland
4/ Cheick Tiote - Newcastle - often linked with a move away
5/ Clint Dempsey - Fulham

efb

I can so seeing this being abused i.e. daniel agger etc...

MagicMarker

Daniel Agger

Nalz

Wes Hoolahan
James McClean
Marc Wilson
Paddy Kenny
Keith Andrews

kippy

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Late night drunken debate
"name 5 players ready for a big club"
Apologies to supporters of the players clubs, but you know what I mean

1/ Junior Hoilett - Blackburn
2/ Moussa Dembele - Fulham
3/ Sessegnon - Sunderland
4/ Cheick Tiote - Newcastle - often linked with a move away
5/ Clint Dempsey - Fulham

We are talking Barca or Madrid here, right?

Owryan

efb wrote: »

I can so seeing this being abused i.e. daniel agger etc...

or why the hell not ?????

R van Persie ......... might like to win something
S Gerrard ..... other clubs (bigger better ones) exist outside the pool

seriously tho Fletcher at wolves or seb larsson at sunderland

efb

Owryan wrote: »

or why the hell not ?????

R van Persie ......... might like to win something
S Gerrard ..... other clubs (bigger better ones) exist outside the pool

seriously tho Fletcher at wolves or seb larsson at sunderland

thats how rows start.

Nalz

kippy wrote: »

We are talking Barca or Madrid here, right?

no, probably the top 4 or 5 in the premier league I guess.

Giruilla

Leon Britton. An english xavi in the making.

monkey9

Grant Holt! Obviously!!

SirDelboy18

Gylfi Sigurdsson

Samich

Baines
Odemwingie
Fletcher
Hoilett
Sigurddson

paddy kerins

Vorm, although I'd prefer him to stay at Swansea

Giruilla

Samich wrote: »

Baines
Odemwingie
Fletcher
Hoilett
Sigurddson

Name a singal top 6 team any of those players would get a game for, except for Baines?

Sappy404

Leighton Baines
Marc Albrighton
Michel Vorm
Victor Moses

Sappy404

Giruilla wrote: »

Name a singal top 6 team any of those players would get a game for, except for Baines?

I could see any of them at Spurs next season, assuming they'll not be signing Adebayor.

eagle eye

Junior Hoilett still has a lot to learn, he needs to work harder for his team. I don't think he is quite ready to start for a top team but is a very good developmental prospect imo.

Sessegnon
Krul
Vorm
Holt
Shawcross

Sgt Pepper 64

Giruilla wrote: »

Name a singal top 6 team any of those players would get a game for, except for Baines?

Spurs had a sniff around Junior Hoilett in Jan

Nuri Sahin

Mentioned him last summer in the Euro u21 thread (cheap plug ) but Sigurdsson is the outstanding candidate by some distance. The lad has it all.

Besides him..

Dempsey - season upon season has stepped for Fulham, age is against him though.

Dembele - an excellent footballer and someone I rated for a long time, but he really needs to add goals to his game before being considered by big clubs probably.

Baines - IMHO, United and Chelsea could do with a new LB sooner rather than later. Evra isn't the good or awhile going by Man U supporters I know and from what I've seen. Cole is getting on in age afaik also. Think the player would rather stay in the North West though, I know I've heard/read that somewhere in the past.

Fellaini - very good CM, someone who'd fit in with any of the EPL clubs.

Sess - ability is not a question but I'd like him to replicate his form next season as well. Though rumours in French media are that PSG want him back so we might not see much more of him in the EPL beyond the next half a dozen matches.


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IF I were to include Newcastle, there'd be quite a few names (hence why I didn't mention them with the names above) from Krul, Ben Afra, Tiote, Cabaye, Cisse and Ba.. possibly Santon in a year or two as well.

As for lot of the Swansea and Norwich players mentioned, they need to do that for another season at least before being mention in this thread. Saying that, Britton looks very good I must add.

JPA

Sappy404 wrote: »

Marc Albrighton

He'd want to do it for the Villa on a consistent first.

kevohmsford

Kevin Doyle
Steven Fletcher
Matt Jarvis

cson

-Ade- wrote: »

Fellaini - very good CM, someone who'd fit in with any of the EPL clubs.

Quality player.

That's who United should be going for, not Jack Rodwell.

kevohmsford

Asamoah Gyan

Samich

Giruilla wrote: »

Name a singal top 6 team any of those players would get a game for, except for Baines?

It doesn't say who's ready for a top 6, says who's ready for a bigger club

bradlente

Its a bit of a grey area when it comes to the "big teams",How is one defined?If its the big 4 then its quite conceivable that come next month Spurs and Newcastle will be "big" teams whereas Arsenal and Chelsea won't be.

The above 4 City Utd and Pool are the big prem teams for me.

Players that could do a job for them:
Agbonlahor
Baines
Dempsey
Hangeland
Huth
Shawcross
Vorm
Brunt
Fletcher
Doyle
Rodallega

If he can get back to full fitness again Stuart Holden.

Frankie Lee

This might belong in the controversial football opinions thread but I reckon James McCarthy. He still has more improving to do but I have been impressed by his influence on games recently.
If Cabaye or Tiote get sold by newcastle in the summer he would make an excellent replacement.

Raskolnikov

bradlente wrote: »

Doyle

Is Doyle really going to displace Rooney/Wellbeck, Van Persie/Oxlade Chamberlain, Tevez/Aguero, Torres/Sturridge or Adebayor/Defoe?

lordgoat

Trilla wrote: »

Wes Hoolahan
James McClean
Marc Wilson
Paddy Kenny
Keith Andrews

Trills, i normally agree but Paddy Kenny is one of the worst goalie to play in the PL.

Wison and possibly Die Hard from your list.

sparrowcar

Heskey

Vorm
Baines
Shawcross
Long? I reckon it's only a matter of time for him.
Bit early for McClean, would rather he had a full season at Sunderland first.

Seaneh

Giruilla wrote: »

Leon Britton. An english xavi in the making.

except hes not far off 30...

G.K.

Martin Olsson

bradlente

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Is Doyle really going to displace Rooney/Wellbeck, Van Persie/Oxlade Chamberlain, Tevez/Aguero, Torres/Sturridge or Adebayor/Defoe?

He's good enough to get 20+ games a season at the majority of the big clubs I named imo.

It's not a case of comparing him to any of those players,Most teams have 3 or 4 first team strikers and at worst I'd say Doyle could be a 4th striker at Utd/City,At best he could compete for a first team place in any of the other sides.

Doyle would surely be in the numbers Torres is in at the very least if he got the starts Torres has had this season and had that Chelsea team behind him.

cson

Jesus christ are you really arguing the point about Doyle? He's probably most ROI supporters most overrated player.

He cost Wolves £6.5m remember. Not exactly peanuts.

Had you said Shane Long I'd have no real issue; he is someone who could probably do a job as a 3rd/4th striker for one of the bigger clubs.

dahat

Leighton Baines needs to move on imo,he will only stagnate at Everton if he stays beyond next season,he has alot to offer the bigger clubs in the EPL

Siggy has set Swansea alight since moving and i look forward to seeing how he does next season,if he continues as he is surely a team like Spurs will take a chance on him

eugeneious

bradlente wrote: »

He's good enough to get 20+ games a season at the majority of the big clubs I named imo.

It's not a case of comparing him to any of those players,Most teams have 3 or 4 first team strikers and at worst I'd say Doyle could be a 4th striker at Utd/City,At best he could compete for a first team place in any of the other sides.

Doyle would surely be in the numbers Torres is in at the very least if he got the starts Torres has had this season and had that Chelsea team behind him.

:eek: Ahead of Berbatov or Dzeko?

Liam O

bradlente wrote: »

He's good enough to get 20+ games a season at the majority of the big clubs I named imo.

It's not a case of comparing him to any of those players,Most teams have 3 or 4 first team strikers and at worst I'd say Doyle could be a 4th striker at Utd/City,At best he could compete for a first team place in any of the other sides.

Doyle would surely be in the numbers Torres is in at the very least if he got the starts Torres has had this season and had that Chelsea team behind him.

only Chelsea didn't buy Torres to get those numbers. Doyle is probably the most overrated Irish player going, has been for a while. Long and Walters are significantly better than him up front.

theoneeyedman

cson wrote: »

Jesus christ are you really arguing the point about Doyle? He's probably most ROI supporters most overrated player.

He cost Wolves £6.5m remember. Not exactly peanuts.

Had you said Shane Long I'd have no real issue; he is someone who could probably do a job as a 3rd/4th striker for one of the bigger clubs.

Absolutely agree with this, Doyle cant hold down his first team place at the worst team in the league let alone top six

Raskolnikov

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Absolutely agree with this, Doyle cant hold down his first team place at the worst team in the league let alone top six

Ebanks Blake is even preferred to Doyle these days.

Pro. F

Frankie Lee wrote: »

This might belong in the controversial football opinions thread but I reckon James McCarthy. He still has more improving to do but I have been impressed by his influence on games recently.
If Cabaye or Tiote get sold by newcastle in the summer he would make an excellent replacement.

He really needs a manager that will work him hard and so give him a chance to realise his huge potential. Martinez looks like a soft touch and the whole team has the air about it that the players turn it on when they're in the mood rather than when the manager tells them.

West Brom could be good for him or Newcastle like you say.

Kerrydude1981

Dempsey will surely be snapped up by 1 of the top clubs this summer,a goal scoring midfielder who can also do a job up front.

1mcampo1

dahat wrote: »

Siggy has set Swansea alight since moving and i look forward to seeing how he does next season,if he continues as he is surely a team like Spurs will take a chance on him

Doesn't look like he'll be in England. Hoffenheim want him back supposedly

JokerD

Trilla wrote: »

Wes Hoolahan
James McClean
Marc Wilson
Paddy Kenny
Keith Andrews

Could be off to Leeds, so will get his big club.

ilovelamp2000

Giruilla wrote: »

Leon Britton. An english xavi in the making.

He's 29.

G.K.

No, he plays the Busquets role.

Allen, a Welsh Xavi, is a much more appropriate comparison.

steelcityblues

The likes of Baines and Dempsey have obviously been around long enough to attract the attention of bigger clubs.

However, mentioning relative newcomers like McClean and Hoolahan as being ready is premature, they still have more to prove.

MickySticks

Ali Al Habsi

theteal

steelcityblues wrote: »

The likes of Baines and Dempsey have obviously been around long enough to attract the attention of bigger clubs.

However, mentioning relative newcomers like McClean and Hoolahan as being ready is premature, they still have more to prove.

and considering he's 29 (if not 30) he'd really need to be putting in serious performances to get such a big move

steelcityblues

theteal wrote: »

and considering he's 29 (if not 30) he'd really need to be putting in serious performances to get such a big move

First season in the Premier League, which is was what I meant.

Well, he's done a respectable job for Norwich, but often our own players seem to be overrated on forums like this.

bradlente

The main reason I put Doyle in there is because of the way he played when he first came on the scene with Reading.

I can concede that he shoudn't be on the list.I think I put him in there because I thought he should've had a chance the year Reading went down.He was consistent for them and still fairly young at the time.

theoneeyedman

By and large big clubs are reluctant to sign players like dempsey or Hoolahan who are nearing thirty without having experiences of playing at the highest level. Players st these mid level teams often dont make tru step up to performing at the highest level under a microscope every game! It can be easy to do it for a team like fulham, blackpool swansea etc but another to do it week in week out at say arsenal, chelsea, united etc where every decision and mistake are disected. You only have to look at the likes of arshavin or Adam recently to witness the big fish / small pond syndrome. There are exceptions and im sure ye will all give examples but buying lads from small clubs older than about 25 is a big risk

G.K.

theoneeyedman wrote: »

By and large big clubs are reluctant to sign players like dempsey or Hoolahan who are nearing thirty without having experiences of playing at the highest level. Players st these mid level teams often dont make tru step up to performing at the highest level under a microscope every game! It can be easy to do it for a team like fulham, blackpool swansea etc but another to do it week in week out at say arsenal, chelsea, united etc where every decision and mistake are disected. You only have to look at the likes of arshavin or Adam recently to witness the big fish / small pond syndrome. There are exceptions and im sure ye will all give examples but buying lads from small clubs older than about 25 is a big risk

I'm confused over Arshavin's mention.

As for Adam, he was the fulcrum of blackpool, everything went through him and he did everything. Dempsey and Hoolahan are not 'main men', they work as members of the team.