Stephen Ireland eyeing republic of Ireland recall

iangobl

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7636556/Ireland-eyeing-Republic-recall

I wouldn't take him back to be honest. It seems awfully "convenient" that he says this a couple of months before the squad for the euros is being made.

Apologies if he has come out and said this before and I'm re-hashing and old story but I haven't heard him say it before I just saw it on sky sports. I know people are probably sick of Stephen Ireland talk

GavRedKing

After the Euros and for the WC qualifers, I'd have no problem with it, before the Euros and to be included in the squad is down right crazy.

his form at Villa has been patchy at best but come back in September when the WC qualifers start and if he still wants to come back then its up to him and the backroom staff to sit and talk about it, but the balls in his court, he has to show Trap he wants back in and is willing to be part of the squad.

ASOT

He can go fuck himself

kfallon

He can fuck right off!

He announced his retirement so why should we take him back!

monkey9

Go away, Stephen Ireland. Please go away!

LuckyLloyd

Trapp has been around too long to engage with this bull****. If he is willing to turn out in a friendly in August with a view to participation in the next qualifying process that could be examined.

monkey9

And by the way, bar a season at Man City, the bloke simply isn't good enough to get into the Ireland squad!

theteal

monkey9 wrote: »

Go away, Stephen Ireland threads. Please go away!

Nalz

monkey9 wrote: »

And by the way, bar a season at Man City, the bloke simply isn't good enough to get into the Ireland squad!

Ye and Paul Green and McShane are!

I think Wes Hoolahan should be ahead of him in terms of a call up

kevohmsford

Maybe if he had said two years ago that he wanted to come back and play for Ireland. Not when we are approaching a major competition. I just have no respect for the player anymore.

GLaDOS

He said before that he has no intention of taking anyone's place in the Euros, just that if he was called up for the WC qualifiers, he would play. Nothing story being rehashed.

kitakyushu

"Until the question comes from the FAI, or some kind of contact comes from them, I can't really think about it," Ireland told the Daily Star.

You'd wonder how he ever became a professional footballer with initiative like that.

Leslie91

Trilla wrote: »

Ye and Paul Green and McShane are!

I think Wes Hoolahan should be ahead of him in terms of a call up

Agree Hoolahan and McClean should go. Even Pilkington at Norwich is playing well.

pickarooney

Oh no he isn't!
Oh yes he is!

Get another panto villain FFS, this one is as fresh as Twink.

Pighead

monkey9 wrote: »

And by the way, bar a season at Man City, the bloke simply isn't good enough to get into the Ireland squad!

Ridiculous statement. He's played well for Villa this season since he's got back into the team. He'll instantly command a starting place in that Ireland midfield whenever he returns.

Will I Amnt

No problem with him making himself available but it would be an insult to the lads that genuinely want to play for their country if he was to go to the Euros.

The_Kew_Tour

I rather take Paul Green, and thats saying a lot

sReq | uTeK

He's a good player I think the whole media debacle hit him hard.

I wouldn't have him now, but I would in a heartbeat after euro.

A midfield of McCarthy, Ireland, McClean and Coleman would be a step in the right direction

Nalz

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I rather take Paul Green, and thats saying a lot

Na you wouldn't!

The_Kew_Tour

Trilla wrote: »

Na you wouldn't!

aaahhhhhhhhh...... Actually your right

billymitchell

Pighead wrote: »

Ridiculous statement. He's played well for Villa this season since he's got back into the team. He'll instantly command a starting place in that Ireland midfield whenever he returns.

He should, but not on traps watch. Listened to an interview with Keith Andrews last night, and he was saying that everybody who plays for Ireland needs to get on board with traps plan before they will get a game. Stephen Irelands game doesnt involve tracking back, and he wont play for Ireland under trap until it does

karma_

billymitchell wrote: »

He should, but not on traps watch. Listened to an interview with Keith Andrews last night, and he was saying that everybody who plays for Ireland needs to get on board with traps plan before they will get a game. Stephen Irelands game doesnt involve tracking back, and he wont play for Ireland under trap until it does

It does you know.

evil_seed

Seaneh

He never said he wants to go to the Euros so stfu with the over reactionary idiotic posts.

He's playing well for villa. He's a cut above our current midfield options besides McCarthy and he's a hard worker.

Himself and the Irish lads at Villa seem fairly friendly. If he does go back he should get them to put feelers out to the other squad members and see how they feel. Let them advocate for him a bit. Ignore what gob****es like Hunt say and if that goes ok then approach Trap, with a few senior members of the team and see if it's a goer. Go to a few training squads and If it is grand he should get a bench place for a few friendlies and see how he goes with a view to a competitive call up.

kitakyushu

If he came back would Ireland actually do a better job than Whelan or Andrews in those roles? Beyond the basics, free kick ability seems to be the only notable advantage those two have. How is Ireland in that department?

darkman2

To be fair he says he wants back in AFTER Euro 2012. Says he does not want to gatecrash Euro 2012. At that stage we are hardly in a position to say no given our midfield options.

Pighead

billymitchell wrote: »

Stephen Irelands game doesnt involve tracking back, and he wont play for Ireland under trap until it does

He's definitely improved on this part of the game over the last six months or so. Last few games I've seen him play he's been excellent at tracking back. Seems to have got his determination and love for the game back.

JPA

Stephen Ireland in a 2 man centre midfield wouldn't/doesn't work.
He wouldn't fit in the team right now.

Liam O

JPA wrote: »

Stephen Ireland in a 2 man centre midfield wouldn't/doesn't work.
He wouldn't fit in the team right now.

Ah but if Keane starts to decline in the next couple of years as he probably will maybe Trap will change the formation...wait what am I saying, of course he's not going to change it

heavyballs

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

He's a good player I think the whole media debacle hit him hard.

I wouldn't have him now, but I would in a heartbeat after euro.

A midfield of McCarthy, Ireland, McClean and Coleman would be a step in the right direction

i think Coleman's a bit hot/cold
Considering we'll be defending like mad i'd have Fahy in there,his fitness level and work rate is exceptional,defo agree McCarthy should be there,i'd have his name down second only to Given on the teamsheet

kfallon

Seaneh wrote: »

Himself and the Irish lads at Villa seem fairly friendly. If he does go back he should get them to put feelers out to the other squad members and see how they feel. Let them advocate for him a bit. Ignore what gob****es like Hunt say and if that goes ok then approach Trap, with a few senior members of the team and see if it's a goer. Go to a few training squads and If it is grand he should get a bench place for a few friendlies and see how he goes with a view to a competitive call up.

Or maybe just tell him to fuck off, that would be better!

Pighead

JPA wrote: »

Stephen Ireland in a 2 man centre midfield wouldn't/doesn't work.
He wouldn't fit in the team right now.

Of course it could work. Maybe he wouldn't be great in a two man midfield for a top class team but for Ireland it would be a doddle. He's extremely fit, can tackle and he can play short passes out to the wing.

Of course he could do it. He mightn't like being told not to venture forward but to say he couldn't do it is wide of the mark. If I was a bit fitter I could probably do it.

Paparazzo

I honestly don't think I could celebrate a goal if Stephen Ireland scored it. Hope he never sees the green jersey again, doesn't deserve it.

JPA

Pighead wrote: »

Of course it could work. Maybe he wouldn't be great in a two man midfield for a top class team but for Ireland it would be a doddle. He's extremely fit, can tackle and he can play short passes out to the wing.

Of course he could do it. He mightn't like being told not to venture forward but to say he couldn't do it is wide of the mark. If I was a bit fitter I could probably do it.

Well he never plays there for Villa and I don't think he did at City.

So he'd be attempting to play a new position while trying to win over the fans...

kitakyushu

Tracking back isn't really an issue for Ireland's CM's as they rarely get forward in the first place.

LuckyLloyd

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

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A midfield of McCarthy, Ireland, McClean and Coleman would be a step in the right direction

If you want to have no balance in your midfield and get ripped apart a lot you would play the above four together.

LuckyLloyd

kitakyushu wrote: »

If he came back would Ireland actually do a better job than Whelan or Andrews in those roles? Beyond the basics, free kick ability seems to be the only notable advantage those two have. How is Ireland in that department?

We don't have a whole lot in the setpiece department.

But, to be honest, I'm expecting Whelan and Andrews to rock up and turn in performances like Paris in 2009. I understand that people get caught up in thinking about technical ability - but Whelan and Andrews are playing in the premiership (Whelan in particular is having a far better season than McCarthy for example) and they have shown before that they relish the big tasks for Ireland.

We're fine with what we have.

CSF

I reckon Trap should go to the likes of Keane, Dunne, Given and O'Shea, those senior players who are guaranteed their place, and see how they feel about it.

If Ireland coming back didn't upset the spirit and morale of the squad, then he provides a much better option than anyone else we have in the middle.

**** stubbornness. If he wants to play, Trap has a use for him, and the squad are ok with it(not including those who are just trying to safeguard their own place in the squad from newbies) then go for it.

The_Kew_Tour

CSF wrote: »

I reckon Trap should go to the likes of Keane, Dunne, Given and O'Shea, those senior players who are guaranteed their place, and see how they feel about it.

If Ireland coming back didn't upset the spirit and morale of the squad, then he provides a much better option than anyone else we have in the middle.

**** stubbornness. If he wants to play, Trap has a use for him, and the squad are ok with it(not including those who are just trying to safeguard their own place in the squad from newbies) then go for it.

As much as I would not welcome him back, that's good point and if there were any issues be wise to ask some of senior players on their thoughts.

kitakyushu

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

We don't have a whole lot in the setpiece department.

Which is ironic considering our attacking gameplan is based almost completely around winning free-kicks in the attacking third. I agree we have no world class specialists in that department (Liam Lawrence is prob our best) but Whelan and Andrews can both provide dangerous long range shots from layoffs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OWV5omYkyQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeAy9uKZfG8

Flancrest

I have no problem with him making himself available for selection. As a central midfielder who doesn't get a nose bleed at the thought of crossing the half way line he will never figure in Traps plans. So I shall sleep safe in the knowledge that should Whelan or Andrews pick up a knock our back-up will be there ready and waiting in the form of Paul Green

Flancrest

Paparazzo wrote: »

I honestly don't think I could celebrate a goal if Stephen Ireland scored it. Hope he never sees the green jersey again, doesn't deserve it.

Seems a bit over the top to be fair. If you take that stand point you wouldn't be able to celebrate any Ireland goal when he was on the pitch as he would have played a role in it

Helix

usual stephen ireland thread... ireland doesnt actually say he wants to come back playing for ireland, thread goes up saying he did, people don't read what he said, pages of abuse ensue

Flancrest

Helix wrote: »

usual stephen ireland thread... ireland doesnt actually say he wants to come back playing for ireland, thread goes up saying he did, people don't read what he said, pages of abuse ensue

But we're happy when we're giving abuse and it's Friday.
Let us have this one.:D

kitakyushu

Paparazzo wrote: »

I honestly don't think I could celebrate a goal if Stephen Ireland scored it. Hope he never sees the green jersey again, doesn't deserve it.

I felt the same way when Sir Royston Keane came back to the Ireland team. (un)Fortunately his divine influence wasn't enough to 'drag' us into the finals and his record for singlehandly qualifying us ended at a dissapointing 2 out of 6.

LuckyLloyd

kitakyushu wrote: »

I felt the same way when Sir Royston Keane came back to the Ireland team. (un)Fortunately his divine influence wasn't enough to 'drag' us into the finals and his record for singlehandly qualifying us ended at a dissapointing 2 out of 6.

Wow, what a load of rubbish.

I'll leave aside the tone and all the bitterness on show here, and simply ask if you watched us against France in September 2005? There wasn't anything more that could have been reasonably requested of him that day.

The team we had in 2005 wasn't a patch on what we had in 2001 all told.

kitakyushu

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Wow, what a load of rubbish.

I'll leave aside the tone and all the bitterness on show here, and simply ask if you watched us against France in September 2005? There wasn't anything more that could have been reasonably requested of him that day.

Wow. What a load of rubbish.

No one was questioning his effort (when he was bothered to turn up that is).
I'm making the point that the myth that Roy Keane single-handedly dragged us to finals was nothing more than that and that also he participated in more failed campaigns that successful ones.

Brain Stroking

You cant compare Keane and Stephen Ireland.

Keane's fall-out occurred because he actually wasnt willing to accept second best in terms of the way the whole show was handled. Keane's attitude was "why settle for second best?".

Stephen Ireland on the other hand came out and said he had better things for doing than playing for Ireland.

So, for that, he can now go f**k himself the classless little prick

LuckyLloyd

kitakyushu wrote: »

Wow. What a load of rubbish.

No one was questioning his effort (when he was bothered to turn up that is).
I'm making the point that the myth that Roy Keane single-handedly dragged us to finals was nothing more than that and that also he participated in more failed campaigns that successful ones.

He singlehandedly dragged us to the 2002 World Cup. We would not have got out of that group without his contribution.

And for a 10 year period he far and away our best player and our best performer in our toughest ties.

This is all off topic in relation to this thread mind.

kitakyushu

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

He singlehandedly dragged us to the 2002 World Cup. We would not have got out of that group without his contribution.

As before I disagree strongly. Also as was demonstrated in the finals the teams performances & results were just as good (if not better) than in qualifying.

Keane was the trump card on what was a very special Ireland team anyway. He certainly added to the team but I'm convinced we would have qualified for 2002 anyway. Results in the finals proved they were a top team even without him. By comparison you said yourself 2005 was a weaker team and Keane couldn't make the difference to it so he's not that much of an influence. He's not Zidane for France taking the other 10 up a level merely by being there orchestrating it all. Basically the Ireland team collective got us to 2002, not Mr. Keane singlehandly.

It's one of my major bugbears and a disservice to the other players how much credit Keane gets for the WCQ2002 when it's actually been demonstrated that they could get results even without him.

And for a 10 year period he far and away our best player and our best performer in our toughest ties.

Agreed.

This is all off topic in relation to this thread mind.

Agreed.

plasmaguy

So we bring him to the Euros and he pulls out on the eve of a big game because his pet rabbit died?

No thank you.