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bonfirey2k6

What's up folks,

I used to fly about 10 years ago but just got out of the habit, short of time. I am wanting to get back into it. I still have all my gear and was wondering is a Futaba FF6 outdated now. I am thinking of getting the Bixler from Hobbyking, to start off with and then progress back to my engine models. From what I can see the FF6 may not work with the Bixler ARF version. Can anybody confirm this? I know there are cheap radio sets on the website but would rather use my existing transmitter but not sure if the Bixler hardware will suit my radio.

Cheers for any help that could be given.

civdef

If you have the receiver for your FF6 just put it in the Bixler and it should be grand.

bonfirey2k6

Thanks civdef, I am hoping that is the case. I still have my receivers. Wasn't sure about connectors and if the ESC would connect to it. It's worth a shot.

Bruthal

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

Thanks civdef, I am hoping that is the case. I still have my receivers. Wasn't sure about connectors and if the ESC would connect to it. It's worth a shot.

They will all work fine. Just ensure you plug the servo plugs in the right way. The futaba receivers and servis have a little tab to ensure this, but most servos dont. Wont do any damage, its just to ensure it all works properly.

civdef

If you plug your esc into a spare channel on your receiver, it should work no problem at all, presuming it's 35mhz you'll probably need to tape the wire antenna along the bottom of the tailboom, but otherwise you should be good to go.

The Bixler is out of stock at present with Hobbyking, but they havew got the AXN floater, a very similar model which is also very good apparently and comes in a PNF version which suits you as you have your own receiver;
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8359

Bruthal

If throttle control is wanted using the throttle stick, then the esc will be into the throttle channel, with its BEC powering the receiver.

If its a seperate regualtor supplying the receiver, then plug that into a spare channel.

I used the seperate regulator setup in the cularis i have, with the ESC BEC red wire disconnected from the ESC servo plug.

bonfirey2k6

Thanks lads. I think I will go with it. I have one more question. Am I right in thinking a Lipo battery will connect to the receiver? I imagine it will, but just to be safe. I checked out the AXN Floater on Hobbyking. Thanks civdef. It does look good. I am looking to order soon so may end up being that. Can always order a Bixler when they are in stock.

Bruthal

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

Thanks lads. I think I will go with it. I have one more question. Am I right in thinking a Lipo battery will connect to the receiver? I imagine it will, but just to be safe. I checked out the AXN Floater on Hobbyking. Thanks civdef. It does look good. I am looking to order soon so may end up being that. Can always order a Bixler when they are in stock.

A receiver can take the lipo battery voltage from a 2 or 3 cell lipo. However, servos wont.

But the electronic speed controllers (ESC) in these aircraft will have a lipo connect to them to power the motor, and the throttle lead that connects to the receiver to get the throttle pulses for the throttle stick position, also supplies the receiver with 5v, (or 6v in some cases), which eliminates needing a second battery (BEC = battery eliminating circuit). So the electronic speed controller also powers the receiver from the lipo battery.

bonfirey2k6

Cheers Robbie

I have another question. Could anybody suggest a good mains supply Lipo charger from Hobbyking. Nothing mad expensive but not that cheap either. Figured I may as well get everything I need in the one order.

Thanks

Bruthal

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

Cheers Robbie

I have another question. Could anybody suggest a good mains supply Lipo charger from Hobbyking. Nothing mad expensive but not that cheap either. Figured I may as well get everything I need in the one order.

Thanks

Accucell 6, and a power supply for it if you dont have one.

I have the accucel 6 as one of my chargers. I find it great.

Depending on how big the order is, it might save you import duty doing seperate orders.

bonfirey2k6

This is roughly what I am planning on ordering.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__6306__ZIPPY_Flightmax_2200mAh_3S1P_20C.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__7028__Turnigy_Accucel_6_50W_6A_Balancer_Charger_w_accessories.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16544__Hobbyking_Bixler_EPO_1400mm_ARF_.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11758__HobbyKing_Power_Supply_100_240v_5A.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__6460__Hobbyking_SS_Series_25_30A_ESC.html


I'll order two Lipos and two ESC's.


If anything is wrong, feel free to let me know. I appreciate your help. I think that would be about everything. Maybe some carbon rods as well.

Bruthal

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

I'll order two Lipos and two ESC's.


If anything is wrong, feel free to let me know. I appreciate your help. I think that would be about everything. Maybe some carbon rods as well.

You will need a connector for the battery to connect to the ESC. The battery you ordered has an xt60 on it, so you will need these to solder onto the ESC supply lead.

I use the blue EC3 types myself.

Seamus O Leprosy

I can highly recommend this http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=17508
its mains and 12v and dirt cheap.
Where are you planning to fly?

smokin ace

if you have not ordered from hobbyking yet maybe you could have a look at this http://www.nitrotek.ie/ez-hawk-electric-3ch-rtf-brushless-trainer-plane.html
i bought one a they are very easy to fly and give a very stable flight and is a strong plane for the not so perfect landings and can be easily repaired

bonfirey2k6

Thanks lads,

Seamus, I am in north Dublin and there are plenty of open fields about so should be able to find a suitable one.

smokin ace, thanks for the link, it does look similar to the Bixler. It looks pretty good. I may still go with the Bixler, I will be ordering quite a bit and even with shipping works out a bit cheaper.

cheers

Kashkai

Unless you get caught by Customs and then you'll be hit with VAT and a post office handling charge:rolleyes: happened to me recently and the extra charges came to over 49 euro. That took the shine off my "cheap" hobbyking order.

Ilyushin76

Also happened to me recently.Had two orders from hobbyking stopped.Customs wanted proof of what I paid for each package and got charged vat and a postage charge on one of the packages.Have ordered a lot from hobbyking last year and never got charged extra so it looks like there stopping every package now.

Hobbyking are opening a store in the UK soon so hopefully they will have a large selection of products at good prices

Quandry

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

What's up folks,

I used to fly about 10 years ago but just got out of the habit, short of time. I am wanting to get back into it. I still have all my gear and was wondering is a Futaba FF6 outdated now. I am thinking of getting the Bixler from Hobbyking, to start off with and then progress back to my engine models. From what I can see the FF6 may not work with the Bixler ARF version. Can anybody confirm this? I know there are cheap radio sets on the website but would rather use my existing transmitter but not sure if the Bixler hardware will suit my radio.

Cheers for any help that could be given.

This year I'm teaching my son how to fly and after 7 years out of model flying I found myself in a similar boat as yourself.

The technology has moved on a lot, however the basics are still the same. Choose a model that is the right size for where you are going to fly. Flying comes back to you like riding a bike, but if you want to crash less then consider getting a simulator to blow out the cobwebs.

There's some pretty good ready to fly kits available at www.radiocontrolledshop.ie including batteries/charger etc. although my personal recommendation is to get something that flies big and slow. Smaller models will be more twitchy in the air and get pushed around a lot on windy days.

bonfirey2k6

Yeah I have heard it can be tough getting them through customs. I will most likely order seperate packages. The biggest will be the Bixler itself but then maybe two smaller packages. In the end thats all I can really do. If customs want to charge me they will charge me. It sucks but there is only so much that we can do to avoid it, and I am sure they are aware of all the avoidence techniques haha.

bonfirey2k6

Quandry wrote: »

This year I'm teaching my son how to fly and after 7 years out of model flying I found myself in a similar boat as yourself.

The technology has moved on a lot, however the basics are still the same. Choose a model that is the right size for where you are going to fly. Flying comes back to you like riding a bike, but if you want to crash less then consider getting a simulator to blow out the cobwebs.

There's some pretty good ready to fly kits available at www.radiocontrolledshop.ie including batteries/charger etc. although my personal recommendation is to get something that flies big and slow. Smaller models will be more twitchy in the air and get pushed around a lot on windy days.

I feel the same. I could not believe the changes. When I was flying, electric flight really wasn't considered as much, but now it seems to be the standard. In my opinion nothing beats an engine but I can appreciate the electric motors. They definitely open up more options and are so cheap. They are perfect for most situations. Especially mine, an engine model would be a bit hectic for me at the moment and would most likely end in me digging it out of the ground after a takeoff, it would not be the first time.

Kashkai

I fly electric planes because I couldn't be bothered carting round all the paraphernalia that you need for a nitro plane. I go to my club field, plug in my battery and away I go. The nitro boys spend a half hour fiddling with their carb settings, fueling it, and trying to start it. Then they carry it out to the runway trying to avoid the prop which is running now and of course hoping it doesn't stall on them.

I've also lost count of the number of times these guys arrive at the field only to discover they've forgotten something like starter etc and they can't fly.

Then there's the cost of nitro fuel itself. Almost 40 quid for a few liters.

Electric is the way to go. As powerful as nitro, but without the hassle, grief or expense. When nitro is burnt, it's gone. I can recharge my batteries to go again

Quandry

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

Yeah I have heard it can be tough getting them through customs. I will most likely order seperate packages. The biggest will be the Bixler itself but then maybe two smaller packages. In the end thats all I can really do. If customs want to charge me they will charge me. It sucks but there is only so much that we can do to avoid it, and I am sure they are aware of all the avoidence techniques haha.

On the Hobby King site you can choose planes/parts from different warehouses. If you choose stuff from the Euro warehouse then you are not going to get charged import duty. If you buy something from the other warehouses you are in for a long wait, high shipping, then tax on top. Just look for the little Euro symbol or click on the 'Euro warehouse' button to see what they can deliver from Germany. You can also get the prices in Euro which is nice.

Having said all that, I've seen some pretty competitive pricing from many of the online sites in Ireland. The reason I prefer radiocontrolledshop.ie is that they're close to my house so you can drive to the shop and look at what you're buying. Dave is a sound guy also.

Quandry

Prosperous Dave wrote: »

I fly electric planes because I couldn't be bothered carting round all the paraphernalia that you need for a nitro plane. I go to my club field, plug in my battery and away I go. The nitro boys spend a half hour fiddling with their carb settings, fueling it, and trying to start it. Then they carry it out to the runway trying to avoid the prop which is running now and of course hoping it doesn't stall on them.

I've also lost count of the number of times these guys arrive at the field only to discover they've forgotten something like starter etc and they can't fly.

Then there's the cost of nitro fuel itself. Almost 40 quid for a few liters.

Electric is the way to go. As powerful as nitro, but without the hassle, grief or expense. When nitro is burnt, it's gone. I can recharge my batteries to go again

In defence of glow....
* I like the realistic sound of nitro (four stroke) if it's a scale plane.
* Crashing a high spec electric plane is going to cost you the same if not more than a nitro one.
* If you are not a well prepared person you can arrive at the park with flat flight batteries also..
* When you buy serious batteries they cost a lot
* There's always a new/faster charger to upgrade too

I have a mix of glow and electric models for different situations, it's a great time to be aeromodelling that we have the choice.

Kashkai

Quandry wrote: »

In defence of glow....
* I like the realistic sound of nitro (four stroke) if it's a scale plane.
* Crashing a high spec electric plane is going to cost you the same if not more than a nitro one.
* If you are not a well prepared person you can arrive at the park with flat flight batteries also..
* When you buy serious batteries they cost a lot
* There's always a new/faster charger to upgrade too

I have a mix of glow and electric models for different situations, it's a great time to be aeromodelling that we have the choice.

I prefer the quietness of electrics myself and it means I can fly them in more places without someone complaining about the noise.

I couldn't disagree more about crashing an electric plane. The few times I've crashed, some epoxy puts it back together and away I go. The nitro noddies at my club have had a few crashes lately and they've ended up with a neat pile of firewood that was once a plane.

Larger batteries might cost a bit but they can be recharged and reused. You can't reuse burnt nitro.

I've my charger for two years now and don't feel I need to upgrade. Fast charging batteries is a bad idea anyway as it reduces their lifespan.

Bruthal

Prosperous Dave wrote: »

I couldn't disagree more about crashing an electric plane. The few times I've crashed, some epoxy puts it back together and away I go. The nitro noddies at my club have had a few crashes lately and they've ended up with a neat pile of firewood that was once a plane.

That depends on the type of electric plane it is though. The p51 mustang nitro i have, could easily be converted to electric. Crash it then, and its the same as if it were a nitro in it.

Nitro planes can be used with electrics instead. But crashing the electric being the same as a nitro in terms of cost, i dont see how that is a dis-advantage of electrics.

Larger batteries might cost a bit but they can be recharged and reused. You can't reuse burnt nitro.

They are not that dear either now, for the use you get.

I've my charger for two years now and don't feel I need to upgrade. Fast charging batteries is a bad idea anyway as it reduces their lifespan.

I have my one 4 years, its software is updateable too.

A faster charger just means a higher wattage output. The level you get depends on your usage rather than waiting for a new more powerful one. So i dont see this as a disadvantage either really.

Faster charging reducing lifespan might be true, but it can be handy, i often did it when out away from home. Any use of a battery reduces its lifespan really. its a balancing act, literally, with lipos. Faster charging is a good possibility as standard at some stage.

Sometimes at home with no hurry, i charge at lower than 1c.

I like the nitro`s myself. Electric is great though imo. Electric can fly any aircrat that nitro can, but electric has enabled possibilities that nitro couldnt. They both have their place. I rarely use nitro now myself.

bonfirey2k6

Well the Bixler is ordered. Lets see how long it takes. Hobbyking status say "Shipped" so hopefully it will not be longer than a couple of weeks. I did not order everything required so hopefully that will cut down on the VAT. I will try and get the rest closer to home or even from the european Hobbyking store. Only the Bixler kit was available in europe.

bonfirey2k6

Bixler has been shipped from Hong Kong today. Does anybody have any idea of how long an order may take to get to Ireland, from your own experience? Can't wait to get my hands on it and I hate to wait. Lol

Cheers

Bruthal

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

Bixler has been shipped from Hong Kong today. Does anybody have any idea of how long an order may take to get to Ireland, from your own experience? Can't wait to get my hands on it and I hate to wait. Lol

Cheers

It varies from about a week to 4 weeks. Usually a week or so though.

Ilyushin76

All my packages arrive in Ireland a week after leaving Honk Kong and arrive the next day at my door.If customs take the package you can another week before you get it do.

Kashkai

I received my latest order from Hobbyking this morning, 8 days after it was shipped.

Hope you avoid customs as the extra charges take the shine off the savings you make by buying from Hobbyking. However, I've only had one order stopped out of 28 so the odds are good;)

bonfirey2k6

Bixler arrived today, but I will have to wait till I get home after work. Pretty quick considering it only shipped from Hong Kong last Wednesday. Can't wait to open that box.

Bruthal

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

Bixler arrived today, but I will have to wait till I get home after work. Pretty quick considering it only shipped from Hong Kong last Wednesday. Can't wait to open that box.

Just make sure you do some good pre flight checks of control surface directions and CG etc, things are easily missed in all the excitement:D

bonfirey2k6

Well I opened it up. It looks impressive. Can anybody recommend a good glue to use. Also am I better off waiting to get the ESC before I glue or will it be easy enough to fit the ESC with the fuselage glued. I am presuming it will because I am sure they have to be replaced from time to time. Does anybody know if the model shop on Capel Street sells ESC's and Lipo's. Thinking of taking a trip in tomorrow. If not I will just order on local sites.

Bruthal

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

Well I opened it up. It looks impressive. Can anybody recommend a good glue to use. Also am I better off waiting to get the ESC before I glue or will it be easy enough to fit the ESC with the fuselage glued. I am presuming it will because I am sure they have to be replaced from time to time. Does anybody know if the model shop on Capel Street sells ESC's and Lipo's. Thinking of taking a trip in tomorrow. If not I will just order on local sites.

You should be able to use standard CA glue (superglue). Thats what i used to build a multiplex cularis, and repair a few radian gliders for others.

Multiplex recommend the CA glue with accelerator (hardener). I didnt bother with the accelerator myself.

I get the thick CA glue from hobbyking. The tubes of it you get here in shops would be impractical to use.

Lipos are also cheaper from there than shops here. As are ESCs.

Did you not order them with the bixler? I thought the ARF version wouldnt need to be glued either.

bonfirey2k6

I didn't order the ESC's and Lipo's with the Bixler. I was on the top end of the weight allowance and with the Lipo's especially it was over into the next weight bracket. Maybe should have order an ESC but it was my first order and wanted to see how I got on with customs and such.

I did order the ARF, I was surprised when I opened the package and seen it has to be glued. On the box it has a tick beside the PNP mark. May have been a mix up but it's not really a big deal. It comes with the same gear as the ARF just requires the fuselage to be glued.

I am thinking of trying out an order on http://radiocontrolledshop.ie, see how that gets on.

Bruthal

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

I didn't order the ESC's and Lipo's with the Bixler. I was on the top end of the weight allowance and with the Lipo's especially it was over into the next weight bracket. Maybe should have order an ESC but it was my first order and wanted to see how I got on with customs and such.

I did order the ARF, I was surprised when I opened the package and seen it has to be glued. On the box it has a tick beside the PNP mark. May have been a mix up but it's not really a big deal. It comes with the same gear as the ARF just requires the fuselage to be glued.

I am thinking of trying out an order on http://radiocontrolledshop.ie, see how that gets on.

Yea it looks like they do have to be glued.

Says on the site on the ARF version, to use medium to thick cyano glue and activator. As i said, when building the cularis, i didnt bother with the activator.

I got a radio case from the radio controlled shop you linked there.

Ilyushin76

Did you get hit with any custom charges ?I was looking at getting a plane from hobbyking but wouldn't be worth it if I got charged 100 euro from customs

Bruthal

Ilyushin76 wrote: »

Did you get hit with any custom charges ?I was looking at getting a plane from hobbyking but wouldn't be worth it if I got charged 100 euro from customs

Anything under €150 is exempt from import duty the last time i checked a year ago. VAT is another thing though. Usually it escapes the vat if it is below the €150 mark though.

If it looks like it would be expensive, they may ask you for receipts to prove purchase price.

bonfirey2k6

Ilyushin76 wrote: »

Did you get hit with any custom charges ?I was looking at getting a plane from hobbyking but wouldn't be worth it if I got charged 100 euro from customs

No I didn't get any customs charges or VAT charges. It arrived straight to the door, I do not know if that was luck or as robbie7730 said as it was under 150 euro. It was definitely worth it.

bonfirey2k6

Well it is pretty much together. I did use CA to glue the fuselage together but it did not seem to work great without activator. I did look it up on the internet and found that if you mix baking soda with water and moisten the foam, the dampness will act like an activator. I tried this and the joint does seem to be much better. I did put are carbon rod along the underside of the fuselage glued in place with hot glue. I also put packing tape on the front, underside of fuselage and on other stress points.

I do have a couple of questions.

What is the best way to attach the wings. The plans say to glue them in place but I would like to be able to remove them. It would be handy for storage and transportation. Has anybody tried methods that enable the wings to be removed?

Also, I attached the tailplane with hot glue. It seems fine and very strong and should be able to handle the stress during flight. I did not really trust the CA for the tailplane. Is hot glue good enough. I used it alot years ago but that was on balsa and ply models. Also if I do end up glueing the wings inplace, would hot glue be okay?

Cheers

Bruthal

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

Well it is pretty much together. I did use CA to glue the fuselage together but it did not seem to work great without activator. I did look it up on the internet and found that if you mix baking soda with water and moisten the foam, the dampness will act like an activator. I tried this and the joint does seem to be much better. I did put are carbon rod along the underside of the fuselage glued in place with hot glue. I also put packing tape on the front, underside of fuselage and on other stress points.

I used thick CA without activator, and it worked fine. Its big bottles though, from HK, so plenty was used.

I do have a couple of questions.

What is the best way to attach the wings. The plans say to glue them in place but I would like to be able to remove them. It would be handy for storage and transportation. Has anybody tried methods that enable the wings to be removed?

Non glued would be better definitely. On a radian where the wing fitting became very loose, i used magnets to keep them in position. Small neodium magnets. Others use elastic bands and hooks in the wings, or velcro straps. You could have a strap coming through the fuselage, and sticking to velcro pieces fixed to the bottom of the wings close to the fuselage.

Also, I attached the tailplane with hot glue. It seems fine and very strong and should be able to handle the stress during flight. I did not really trust the CA for the tailplane. Is hot glue good enough. I used it alot years ago but that was on balsa and ply models. Also if I do end up glueing the wings inplace, would hot glue be okay?

Cheers

Hot glue should work fine. It might snap clean off in a crash though, if you ever have one. I think the CA possibly gets in into the joints better than hot glue, but hot glue should work well. As i said, i built a cularis entirely with thick CA, 2 years ago. There is a fair bit of gluing in them, and no problems. It took a bottle and a half of the HK CA to complete it. The thick CA is slower setting than thinner ones, and i used no activator even though they recommend it.

bonfirey2k6

Thanks robbie7730.

Just waiting on the rest of the parts. I ordered them over a week ago. Ordered a lot to make sure I have plenty of spares. They didn't have the power supply I wanted for the charger in stock. I should be able to dig something out though. Maybe even an old laptop charger. Has the same power specs.

bonfirey2k6

Dug one of my older planes out of the garage today. It is a Hurricane with a wingspan of about 1.5 meters. It was a bit dusty but cleaned up okay. I might be interested in trying it out down the line, way down the line. It is a glow model but was thinking would it be able to be converted to electric. Originally had a 40 sized glow engine on it but that was a little under powered. A 60 would be more what it needs. The plane weighs in at about 3kg so I am presuming there are electric motors out there that would do the job.

Has anybody converted a glow plane to electric. Is it worth doing?

Cheers

bonfirey2k6

Received my Hobbyking order today. It took the exact same time as the Bixler. 11 days which is pretty good.


This is what I received in the order,

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7028

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=17204

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6306 x2

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11903__Turnigy_nano_tech_1300mah_3S_25_50C_Lipo_Pack.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10414 x2

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=15202 x2

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4134

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__15205__Hobby_King_30A_ESC_3A_UBEC.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__9549__Turnigy_TG9e_9g_1_5kg_0_10sec_Eco_Micro_Servo.html x3

Along with the above I ordered a couple of props that seem to be best for the Bixler from what I can see. Also ordered some shrink cover for the cables after soldering along with some velcro.


They did not have the power supply I wanted in stock when making the order. I thought I might have been able to use an old laptop power supply but connector is slightly different. For now I will charge them of a 12v battery.

I did not order connectors for the ESC to the motor cables. My lack of knowledge showed up there. I should be able to figure somethig out, maybe with standard electricle connectors. Has anybody used DIY connectors to connect the ESC to the motor? If so, what did you use and how did you do it.


Thanks in advance.....

keithn4

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

Received my Hobbyking order today. It took the exact same time as the Bixler. 11 days which is pretty good.


This is what I received in the order,

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7028

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=17204

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6306 x2

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11903__Turnigy_nano_tech_1300mah_3S_25_50C_Lipo_Pack.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10414 x2

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=15202 x2

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4134

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__15205__Hobby_King_30A_ESC_3A_UBEC.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__9549__Turnigy_TG9e_9g_1_5kg_0_10sec_Eco_Micro_Servo.html x3

Along with the above I ordered a couple of props that seem to be best for the Bixler from what I can see. Also ordered some shrink cover for the cables after soldering along with some velcro.


They did not have the power supply I wanted in stock when making the order. I thought I might have been able to use an old laptop power supply but connector is slightly different. For now I will charge them of a 12v battery.

I did not order connectors for the ESC to the motor cables. My lack of knowledge showed up there. I should be able to figure somethig out, maybe with standard electricle connectors. Has anybody used DIY connectors to connect the ESC to the motor? If so, what did you use and how did you do it.


Thanks in advance.....

Hey bonfirey,

You can soldier the esc to the motor, put some shirnk wrap over it and your good to go, no need for connectors.

Keith

civdef

Why did you get 2 ESCs?

bonfirey2k6

Cheers Keith, I might solder the ESC onto the motor but it is a tight fit and I would like it to be replaced easily.

civdef wrote: »

Why did you get 2 ESCs?

I actually got three ESC's, two 20's and a 30. Mainly filling up the order, figured it cannot harm to have some spare. I will probably start with the 20a ESC along with the 1300 lipo for my first few flights. I do not want too much power incase I get carried away with myself.

civdef

If you don't mind things looking a little bit agricultural, you could try a connector block as found in any hardware shop - I've used these while waiting for proper connectors to arrive and it worked fine.

Quandry

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

They did not have the power supply I wanted in stock when making the order. I thought I might have been able to use an old laptop power supply but connector is slightly different. For now I will charge them of a 12v battery.

I did not order connectors for the ESC to the motor cables. My lack of knowledge showed up there. I should be able to figure somethig out, maybe with standard electricle connectors. Has anybody used DIY connectors to connect the ESC to the motor? If so, what did you use and how did you do it.

If you have an old computer you might be able to raid it internally for parts. I just converted a 575w server power supply for my RC charger details here.


Although I used a server power supply, even a desktop one would do for that 50w charger you have (it's going to take a while to charge those 3s 2,200's you bought by the way). Also inside a desktop you might get lucky to find a 12v joiner on a hard disk, or other accessory, if so just clip out the plug and solder it on to your speed controller and you're in business. Maybe even someone you know has an old pc kicking about?? The PSU can take some fiddling but there's a lot of info on the web that you can use to figure it out. Otherwise the PSU's I used are available on ebay for 20sterling which is a great price considering how much wattage they supply.

smokin ace

i am just after getting in the post yesterday the very first power supply in the link below(the €18.99 one)and it does the job perfect with a pro tech c6 charger and with it been an irish company the delivery was only two days
http://www.modelheliservices.com/acatalog/Power_Supplies.html

Bruthal

bonfirey2k6 wrote: »

Cheers Keith, I might solder the ESC onto the motor but it is a tight fit and I would like it to be replaced easily.




I actually got three ESC's, two 20's and a 30. Mainly filling up the order, figured it cannot harm to have some spare. I will probably start with the 20a ESC along with the 1300 lipo for my first few flights. I do not want too much power incase I get carried away with myself.

Putting in a bigger ESC wont really give you more power, as in if the motor takes 18 amps for an example, putting in a 30 amp ESC wont really give more power.

Neither will putting in a bigger lipo with the same cell count, except it may have a higher discharge rate and so hold its voltage under load a bit better.