Carragher, Neville & MNF On Sky

MD1990

i think he is a very good analyst on the Premiership
but i find his commentry in European games very frustating
because he is so pro the English teams
Watching the Chelsea game tonight it was nearly like listening to someone on fanzone calling the game
he completly overated Chelsea's performance tonight too imo

ShamoBuc

He is good and beating them away is a very good result and should be talked up a bit.

Skid

I don't think he is any more Pro-English teams than any other English Pundit.

I didn't like him when he was playing but he is doing a good job at Sky.

steelcityblues

Him and Tyler seem to be building a good commentary partnership.

FearDark

Probably the best sky have to offer at the moment. Hated him as a player, decent pundit. He's pro English teams as are most Irish and English commentators I feel.

/waits for Liverpool fans opinion.

Mr Alan

Agree with the OP.

He is excellent for the PL stuff, but jesus he is shockingly bad for the CL stuff. Shame really as he's a breath of fresh air at weekends/on MNF.

It's not even that he's 'pro-English', it's that he's hilariously, comically pro English sides (and English players within those sides). In Napoli the other week at one point he said that apart from 2 players the Napoli team were poor & Chelsea could score 5 or 6 in the away leg?! Wtf?!

MD1990

Skid wrote: »

I don't think he is any more Pro-English teams than any other English Pundit.

I didn't like him when he was playing but he is doing a good job at Sky.

John Terry clearly handeld the ball
& Neville said u can't give that even though he arm was stretched out
he also said Chelsea dominated the 2nd half at one stage
& then stats showed Benfica had 12 shots to chelsea's 5

Paul Tergat

Nev does seem to want to promote the English league. Said a few times only recently that its the best league in world etc

PhlegmyMoses

He said after the United Fulham game that he didn't think Chelsea would win in Benfica and would struggle to get a draw. Maybe he was just impressed with them because he rated Benfica so highly.

MD1990

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

He said after the United Fulham game that he didn't think Chelsea would win in Benfica and would struggle to get a draw. Maybe he was just impressed with them because he rated Benfica so highly.

he started shouting in the 2nd half for Chelsea to switch the ball to the left because a counter was on
he was nearly as bad as Ray Wilkins which is hard

Nalz

I think he's excellent but he overkills as a co-commentator during a game. I can't remember the exact game but it was roughly a month ago and he wouldn't come up for air.

KombuchaMshroom

Personally I think Neville might be trying to over emphasize his bias for English teams so his natural bias for United doesn't stand out too much.
As a United fan i was a bit worried that when Neville started with Sky he might become a bit of a joke because of his love for United and that he would show this far too strongly on camera. He's been anything but that though, and probably has been the best pundit on Sky this season. His overly pro-English commentating though is the one thing that has let him down, and it just seems to me that a lad who has such a passion for Man United couldn't possibly have as much desire as he is showing for the likes of Chelsea to do well.

But i guess this isn't really based on any facts, just my own feeling and opinion, so could easily be pure sh*t*!!

Richard Hillman

Local commentator in bias shocker

J. Marston

Yeah, they're all bias on Sky when it comes to the English teams in Europe. Andy Gray going mental a few years ago when Gerrard scored that goal against Olympiakos. Ray Wilkins with Spurs last year and Neville this year with Chelsea. Not too bothered about it really.

Hannibal

Neville has done a lot better than I thought he would. His spell in the job last season all he seemed to talk about was United but he became a lot less biased this season and I initiallly thought his voice would be too monotonous to be a commentator but to be fair he's very knowledable about the game aswell.

When you compare him to other co-commentators around like Jim Beglin, Andy Townsend, Mark Lawrenson, Ray Wilkins, Matt Le Tissier I personally would have Neville over any of them.

The English are notoriously blinkered and biased about their game anyway, it in some ways explains how their national team is so poor.

Morzadec

Going to maybe state the obvious here, but does anyone think there is a possibility that the pundits and commentators are told by Sky to promote the EPL and therefore its teams whenever possible? We might be seeing a bit of what Neville thinks but also Sky know they are broadcasting to a largely British audience and also that the EPL is their prized brand. It's in their interests to big it up.

Anyway as a Liverpool fan, I can say from whatever I've seen of Neville I think he's a step up from the usual pundits on Sky. I've never seen him in Europe so can't comment on that

Caveman1

Morzadec wrote: »

Going to maybe state the obvious here, but does anyone think there is a possibility that the pundits and commentators are told by Sky to promote the EPL and therefore its teams whenever possible? We might be seeing a bit of what Neville thinks but also Sky know they are broadcasting to a largely British audience and also that the EPL is their prized brand. It's in their interests to big it up.

Anyway as a Liverpool fan, I can say from whatever I've seen of Neville I think he's a step up from the usual pundits on Sky. I've never seen him in Europe so can't comment on that

I was thinking along the lines of that too, he's hardly going to slate the teams that the majority of the viewers support because then nobody would tolerate him and he's be out of a job, I actually think he does a good job and I couldn't stand him as a player

The_Kew_Tour

Really like him as a pundit, but I think it's only a matter of time before he says something that will upset set of fans more likely City or Liverpool.

Ladjacket

have a lot of time for Neville as a pundit. Respected him as a player but as a person he was not the most likeable. I think most fair-minded people would agree now that he has improved the punditry on sky.

I liked his little gem on MNF when he spoke about Ronaldo. 'As usual when England are knocked out of a tournament, they look for a scapegoat'. Zing!

When you compare it to the likes of Redknapp who will not criticise his mates at all, Neville is honest and forthright in his views.

deman

Why wouldn't he be biased? He's English. Does George Hamilton not show bias towards Ireland?

The_Kew_Tour

deman wrote: »

Why wouldn't he be biased? He's English. Does George Hamilton not show bias towards Ireland?

think your spot on.

gustavo

I don't mind the English commentators being overly pro English - it's when the Irish ones do it that it gets annoying

astrofool

I think most country's commentators are going to be biased when they report on matches involving their own, it's what the public wants.

We just get all uppity about it because of history with the English, but I'm sure the Portuguese think the same of the Spanish coverage.

Hangballlouie

In the studio, he is the best there is in England. Co-commentating he is ok, but when he is analysing in the studio he is quality.

I'm a Liverpool fan and was a bit worried when he got the gig full-time but he hasn't been biased at all in the EPL IMO.

He has a fantastic knowledge of the game. Has won it all, and played for and against great teams.

Sky should have just him and Souness doing the analysing from now on, get rid of the other clowns.

Btw, I got some stick from my LFC mates for buying it, but his book is a very good read. Recommended reading for all football fans.

2ndcoming

I've been really surprised at how good he is. His technical knowledge of the game is a step above anyone else on Sky or any other broadcaster in my opinion, Giles is the closest to him in my book which says a lot about the MOTD or ITV lads. His balanced unbiased approach is what really surprised me, I was shocked when they announced he'd be doing it at the start, thought he'd be totally pro Manc/anti everyone else but he's proved himself since.

Calling Michael Oliver 'Michael Owen' after the Man U/Fulham game, bit tongue in cheek I wonder?

That_Guy

I like Gary Neville as a pundit. I didn't think I would but his insight is fantastic at times. Don't really like him on commentary because his voice is a bit annoying but overall he's a decent enough pundit.

ROCKMAN

Think his very good on the premiership , Breth of fresh air.

As for this European football ye talk off I thought that finished a few weeks ago

token101

Gary Neville should be drafted into RTE for the Euros, especially for the England games. Him vs Dunphy and Giles would be unbelievable TV!

jack presley

deman wrote: »

Why wouldn't he be biased? He's English. Does George Hamilton not show bias towards Ireland?

Nevilles no George Hamilton. Not until he has a 'danger here' moment anyway

carlop

astrofool wrote: »

I think most country's commentators are going to be biased when they report on matches involving their own, it's what the public wants.

We just get all uppity about it because of history with the English, but I'm sure the Portuguese think the same of the Spanish coverage.

The Portuguese more than likely don't watch or pay any attention to Spanish media coverage. We're a bit of a special case because we nearly are more immersed in the media of another country rather than our own.

From experience every country's press are just as bad, if not worse than the British. If you watch any La Liga match in Spain I guarantee you'll hear it referred to as the best league in the world three or four times per match, and the commentators make absolutely no attempt to hide their bias in European games.

missingtime

As a Liverpool fan I find Gary Neville to be a very good commentator. He is sincere and has a genuine love for the game. He is confident in what he wants to say and is well able to back himself up.

He also doesn't take himself so seriously, and is well able to make jokes about himself. He made a quip about celebrating in front of fans when Evra did at the Liverpool match.



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