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dogyworld1

Hi guys
well i bought this game today at gamestop in henry street along the jervis
anyway when i bought it the sales assistant said me to me if you dont like it you can return it in 7 days
and he said it got loads of bad reviews

i bought this game brand new opened it, played it, i think its ****e, and this guys telling me i can return a brand new game to the store and get a refund even though its open

anyone else get this when they bought the game in gamestop?

ShadowHearth

dogyworld1 wrote: »

Hi guys
well i bought this game today at gamestop in henry street along the jervis
anyway when i bought it the sales assistant said me to me if you dont like it you can return it in 7 days
and he said it got loads of bad reviews

i bought this game brand new opened it, played it, i think its ****e, and this guys telling me i can return a brand new game to the store and get a refund even though its open

anyone else get this when they bought the game in gamestop?

well i dont think gamestop would be so stupid, i am prety sure it was a new boy? you could try it thought?

jesus, i really hope americans wont like this game and capcom will get a hint, that this type of games are pure shiet. :rolleyes:

dogyworld1

i dont think he was new
i think he was the manager ha
but it just had me shocked

ShadowHearth

dogyworld1 wrote: »

i dont think he was new
i think he was the manager ha
but it just had me shocked

well, it does look like a refund thing for games finally becoming popular?

there are a lot of pissed of mass effect fans, who are refunding their copies at amazon.

it would be lovely if we could refund games if they suck donkeys ****. Publishers/developers are getting away with such crapy games lately and gamers can do **** all about this.

dogyworld1

i know i couldnt agree more
the game i bought their is ****e
i mean like its fun kinda
its not worth 50 euro
more like 15 euro or even 20 euro
but not 50 the game just has to many glitchs and is not finished
even the campaign sucks arse and the only has no region lock so i could be playing with people from japan and the lag is unreal

gizmo

ShadowHearth wrote: »

well, it does look like a refund thing for games finally becoming popular?

there are a lot of pissed of mass effect fans, who are refunding their copies at amazon.

it would be lovely if we could refund games if they suck donkeys ****. Publishers/developers are getting away with such crapy games lately and gamers can do **** all about this.

I vehemently disagree. Amazon offering refunds on ME3 is a ****ing horrible precedent which is not only (more than likely) a horrific PR stunt but also makes no sense. Remember, these are people who have played through the game for 20-40hrs and simply not liked the ending. Why in the hell should they get a refund for that? Whats next, people wanting refunds from book stores/cinemas because Frodo didn't put on the Ring of Power and bring down the Dark Tower all by himself? Or what about returning The Witcher 2 because Geralt ****ing every second thing he saw offended their morals? Or maybe wanting a refund on Dead Space because it was too scary for them to finish?

OP I have a feeling the guy in the store was referring to the ability to return the game unopened within 7 days for a full refund. I highly doubt they'd give you your money back after you had broken the seal.

dogyworld1

calm down gizmo
i wasnt stating a fact on anything about return policys

anyway yes he did say "IF I DONT LIKE THE GAME I CAN RETURN IT FOR A REFUND"
so obviously im going to have to play it to find out if i dont like it
read first post

gizmo

dogyworld1 wrote: »

calm down gizmo
i wasnt stating a fact on anything about return policys

anyway yes he did say "IF I DONT LIKE THE GAME I CAN RETURN IT FOR A REFUND"
so obviously im going to have to play it to find out if i dont like it
read first post

Don't worry, my issue is with the idea of refunding people for media they didn't like dogyworld, not you or ShadowHearth.

I did read your post alright and it sounded like you had played it and didn't like it so were considering returning it. If that's really what he said then I'm definitely with ShadowHearth on this one, something odd is going on.

richymcdermott

gizmo wrote: »

I vehemently disagree. Amazon offering refunds on ME3 is a ****ing horrible precedent which is not only (more than likely) a horrific PR stunt but also makes no sense. Remember, these are people who have played through the game for 20-40hrs and simply not liked the ending. Why in the hell should they get a refund for that? Whats next, people wanting refunds from book stores/cinemas because Frodo didn't put on the Ring of Power and bring down the Dark Tower all by himself? Or what about returning The Witcher 2 because Geralt ****ing every second thing he saw offended their morals? Or maybe wanting a refund on Dead Space because it was too scary for them to finish?

OP I have a feeling the guy in the store was referring to the ability to return the game unopened within 7 days for a full refund. I highly doubt they'd give you your money back after you had broken the seal.

arent origins refunding mass effect aswell ?

dogyworld1

gizmo wrote: »

Don't worry, my issue is with the idea of refunding people for media they didn't like dogyworld, not you or ShadowHearth.

I did read your post alright and it sounded like you had played it and didn't like it so were considering returning it. If that's really what he said then I'm definitely with ShadowHearth on this one, something odd is going on.

no harm done thought you were ranting at me haha

i plan on returning it in the morning not for a refund but to see if i can exchange it
i found it very odd myself reason i posted this on multiple fourms to see other peoples opinions or if they got asked the same question ha

are people getting refunds for mass effect 3? :O

gizmo

richymcdermott wrote: »

arent origins refunding mass effect aswell ?

I saw a story about one guy getting a refund on the grounds that the game wasn't like what was advertised, I'm not aware of it being a widespread occurrence though.

I stand by what I said above though, I find the idea of looking for a refund for something you didn't like the ending of to be along the same lines as this insanity.

dogyworld1 wrote: »

i plan on returning it in the morning not for a refund but to see if i can exchange it
i found it very odd myself reason i posted this on multiple fourms to see other peoples opinions or if they got asked the same question ha

Ah, do let us know how you get on, I'd be very interesting in seeing what happens.

richymcdermott

i agree asking for a refund on a game you didnt like is abit bad but i could understand it if the game is broken or unplayable , cause rightly so if i bought a toaster and it was faulty id ask for my money back or a new one , i think games should be held accountable aswell along those lines.

so i agree with you on one part , but disagree on another

like to hear your thoughts though

Local-womanizer

You are not entitled to a refund just for the reason you don't like a product. What you may get is the money on a gift card but getting cash would be highly unlikely. Anything else depends on how the person you are dealing with on the day feels.

gizmo

richymcdermott wrote: »

i agree asking for a refund on a game you didnt like is abit bad but i could understand it if the game is broken or unplayable , cause rightly so if i bought a toaster and it was faulty id ask for my money back or a new one , i think games should be held accountable aswell along those lines.

so i agree with you on one part , but disagree on another

like to hear your thoughts though

Oh I totally agree on this issue, if a game is bugged to the point that it is unplayable, either through a show-stopper or a constant stream of game breaking bugs, then the customer should be entitled to a refund. Now, if a publisher was to announce a patch within a reasonable time frame then that's something but you still have the issue of certain gamers not actually being online to get it.

richymcdermott

gizmo wrote: »

Oh I totally agree on this issue, if a game is bugged to the point that it is unplayable, either through a show-stopper or a constant stream of game breaking bugs, then the customer should be entitled to a refund. Now, if a publisher was to announce a patch within a reasonable time frame then that's something but you still have the issue of certain gamers not actually being online to get it.

glad we agree ,

oh ya if a patch comes reasonably then i have no problem with that

WarZoneBrother

GAME used to have 28 day return policy even if the game is opened... I went through about 3 DS games all bought new and basically got to rent them for free got full cash value at the end... It's a pity that it's gone now, not sure if gamestop do refunds after 7 days.. Maybe it's just a special because of the sh1t reviews the game got... I still want to buy it, but only when a price drop comes into play which I expect will be shortly...

Notorioux

This is not the first time. They did it with Marvel VS Capcom 3 as well when it came out.

Varik

gizmo wrote: »

Now, if a publisher was to announce a patch within a reasonable time frame then that's something but you still have the issue of certain gamers not actually being online to get it.

A patch would fall under a repair within consumer law, can't see this ever becoming a problem as consumers are only allowed to return ME3 under Amazons own policy and all it would take is for them to add an exception to that.

If the product was faulty then Amazon could try to recoup their money from the manufacturer but with this they're just out of pocket and if it becomes rampant they won't be offering it any more.

Someone slightly spoiled the ending (i think it's just odd and probably not bad) for me but not enough for me to have any idea what will happens so will still probably enjoy it when i finished up 2 and start, i am pissed at whoever posted a picture of

EDI

on the thread.

dogyworld1

Notorioux wrote: »

This is not the first time. They did it with Marvel VS Capcom 3 as well when it came out.

gamestop gave ppl refunds when marvel vs capcom3 came out? because it got bad reviews?

aN.Droid

richymcdermott wrote: »

arent origins refunding mass effect aswell ?

Origin are great for refunds. I got my copy of The Old Republic refunded over 2 months after I had bought it. The game sucked, and I got my money back. I easily put 50 hours into it too hoping it would get better, but it didn't!

gizmo

Varik wrote: »

A patch would fall under a repair within consumer law, can't see this ever becoming a problem as consumers are only allowed to return ME3 under Amazons own policy and all it would take is for them to add an exception to that.

If the product was faulty then Amazon could try to recoup their money from the manufacturer but with this they're just out of pocket and if it becomes rampant they won't be offering it any more.

The patch would still have to come out within a reasonable time frame though, right?

As for Amazon, as I said above that's why it stinks of a PR move, there's no way a system like this would be maintainable.

Varik wrote: »

Someone slightly spoiled the ending (i think it's just odd and probably not bad) for me but not enough for me to have any idea what will happens so will still probably enjoy it when i finished up 2 and start, i am pissed at whoever posted a picture of

EDI

on the thread.

Aye, got caught by that one myself. I'm currently just

after finishing the mission on Rannock

and,

silly design in the Reaper takedown aside

so far can't imagine why anyone would want to return the game.

WarZoneBrother wrote: »

GAME used to have 28 day return policy even if the game is opened... I went through about 3 DS games all bought new and basically got to rent them for free got full cash value at the end... It's a pity that it's gone now, not sure if gamestop do refunds after 7 days..

Did you return them because you hated them or because you had finished them?

Notorioux

Varik wrote: »

A patch would fall under a repair within consumer law, can't see this ever becoming a problem as consumers are only allowed to return ME3 under Amazons own policy and all it would take is for them to add an exception to that.

If the product was faulty then Amazon could try to recoup their money from the manufacturer but with this they're just out of pocket and if it becomes rampant they won't be offering it any more.

Someone slightly spoiled the ending (i think it's just odd and probably not bad) for me but not enough for me to have any idea what will happens so will still probably enjoy it when i finished up 2 and start, i am pissed at whoever posted a picture of

EDI

on the thread.

I think thats me >_< I am only amazed of the camel toe she got, So I posted it. Sorry...

dogyworld1

wonder if id get a refund tomorrow ha

Varik

gizmo wrote: »

The patch would still have to come out within a reasonable time frame though, right?

Yes it does have to be done in a reasonable time but it's not all straight forward as you've bought it from the shop who your contract is with and who consumer law deals with but it is a software licence from EA in the case of ME3.

Skyrim for all the love it gets would be a good example, the first patch did not fix the poor PS3 frame rate and actually made some things worse (may have been a later patch), in this case the repair was not up to standard and you could get a refund or a replacement( which would not help).

gizmo wrote: »

As for Amazon, as I said above that's why it stinks of a PR move, there's no way a system like this would be maintainable.

It's just standard policy from Amazon, i think if it's abused then they'll just make games an exception to their policy.

gizmo

Varik wrote: »

Yes it does have to be done in a reasonable time but it's not all straight forward as you've bought it from the shop who your contract is with and who consumer law deals with but it is a software licence from EA in the case of ME3.

Nevermind the fact the developer could have finalised a patch and submitted it to platform cert only for it to be delayed on that end meaning neither the developer nor publisher would have any control over when it's released. It would be a total nightmare.

Varik wrote: »

It's just standard policy from Amazon, i think if it's abused then they'll just make games an exception to their policy.

What's the criteria though? I could understand getting a refund if a game does not perform as described or doesn't contain features that were advertised i.e. the game being unplayable due to awful frame rates or the game being advertised as coming with multiplayer but it not actually featuring, but to get a refund because you weren't happy with the ending is a totally different matter.

krudler

Limericks wrote: »

Origin are great for refunds. I got my copy of The Old Republic refunded over 2 months after I had bought it. The game sucked, and I got my money back. I easily put 50 hours into it too hoping it would get better, but it didn't!

It took you two months to figure out you didnt like a game? jesus...

aN.Droid

krudler wrote: »

It took you two months to figure out you didnt like a game? jesus...

No it took me about 2 days, I played it for 2 weeks or so when it was released to give it a chance to improve but it got worse as the game went on when you seen unfinished parts of the game and other bugs.

I waited for that game for years so gave it all the chance in the world to change my mind. It didn't so I quit with intentions of going back after a few months. In the meantime more problems popped up in online communities so I just went ahead and got my refund.

Reamer Fanny

Pretty disappointed with this game too, hopefully Capcom can redeem themselves later in the year with RE6

i do think refunding mass effect is silly i thought it was a fantastic game and the ending was not quite on par but people where going to be disappointed with the end no matter what they did.
i agree with gizmo 40 hours of (in my opinion) 10/10 gameplay should not be ignored because of 5 mins at the end

cloud493

Maybe returning games will replace the shrinking pre owned game market :rolleyes:

gordoz

I don't blame you for wanting a refund. This game is horrible.

ShadowHearth

gizmo wrote: »

I vehemently disagree. Amazon offering refunds on ME3 is a ****ing horrible precedent which is not only (more than likely) a horrific PR stunt but also makes no sense. Remember, these are people who have played through the game for 20-40hrs and simply not liked the ending. Why in the hell should they get a refund for that? Whats next, people wanting refunds from book stores/cinemas because Frodo didn't put on the Ring of Power and bring down the Dark Tower all by himself? Or what about returning The Witcher 2 because Geralt ****ing every second thing he saw offended their morals? Or maybe wanting a refund on Dead Space because it was too scary for them to finish?

OP I have a feeling the guy in the store was referring to the ability to return the game unopened within 7 days for a full refund. I highly doubt they'd give you your money back after you had broken the seal.

Jesus man.

I can't judge me3 amd if it's justified to return it, because I haven't played it. It is true that some people will have amazon for a ride. Returning game, because ending is bad is not justified.
BUT! Gamers have to have ability for full refund on **** games. Developers bull**** you for ages and when game comes out it is nothing as advertised. Games like duke nuken forever, spore, brink should be all refunded as those were pure lies and ****. Me as consumer should have a right to return the product which is falsely advertised and low quality. Games with game breaking bugs on launch day should have option to be refunded too. Sick of paying 50eu for game that is not even playable. There should be some standards FFs.

One time I refunded a pc game. Oh yeah. I bough Scarface on pc for 50eu. My pc was almost double the power of recommended settings. When I started playing I realised it was the shotiest poorest console port ever created. I gow back to "virgin" and demanded full refund and got it.
No way I will let get away with that ****.

gizmo

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Jesus man.

I can't judge me3 amd if it's justified to return it, because I haven't played it. It is true that some people will have amazon for a ride. Returning game, because ending is bad is not justified.

Totally agree.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

BUT! Gamers have to have ability for full refund on **** games. Developers bull**** you for ages and when game comes out it is nothing as advertised. Games like duke nuken forever, spore, brink should be all refunded as those were pure lies and ****. Me as consumer should have a right to return the product which is falsely advertised and low quality. Games with game breaking bugs on launch day should have option to be refunded too. Sick of paying 50eu for game that is not even playable. There should be some standards FFs.

This is where we disagree, why should you get your money back for something that you don't like? No one is forcing you to buy it, assuming you didn't pre-order it then you'll have had the chance to either play the demo or ready previews and reviews. I can't really see how anyone could blindly buy a game these days. DNF, for example, was well sign posted as a total disappointment. I'm not sure what the issue is with Spore outside of the horrific DRM, I've not played it yet but the reviews seemed pretty solid across the board. And Brink, same can be said really, it wasn't fantastic but it was fun from what I played and got some pretty decent reviews. How were any of these games falsely advertised? Specifically like.

Lets use a personal example. I absolutely love the Ninja Gaiden series. When NG3 was announced I was totally pumped, despite the lack of Itagaki's involvement. The CE was then announced and it looked pretty great so I pre-ordered it on Amazon. Then I started reading previews about how the core mechanics had changed, my confidence began to waver. Then, in the leadup to release, I read some reviews and my worries were confirmed, they had ****ed it. So I cancelled my pre-order. Now, if I hadn't cancelled it and had bought it knowing the above, do you really think I should have gotten a full refund?

To use a different form of media, if I go to see the latest Michael Bay monstrosity in the cinema, should I be entitled to a refund if it's bad?

As for the game breaking bugs issue, as I said above, I agree there too. A game should not be released when it is known to be broken. Day one patches are all well and fine in principle but there are still a decent chunk of gamers, mainly console, who don't have their machine connected to the net so it is unacceptable.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

One time I refunded a pc game. Oh yeah. I bough Scarface on pc for 50eu. My pc was almost double the power of recommended settings. When I started playing I realised it was the shotiest poorest console port ever created. I gow back to "virgin" and demanded full refund and got it.
No way I will let get away with that ****.

Totally agree with this too. It falls into the category of actually broken so you should definitely get your money back.

ShadowHearth

Gizmo:

All those games drop in to false advertisement category and games are the best at getting away with it.

If you buy a TV which is advertised to be 42inch, but in reality you get 27inch then you are entitled for full refund.
You buy a car which is 5 door, but in reality it has only 3 doors, then you entitled for a refund ( no matter how stupid this sounds, it's just examples )
If you buy a cake which has to have a flavour of strawberry, but I'm reality it's a flavour of soggy socks, then you entitled for a refund.

Video game industry is getting away with this shiet, because it is so "not clarified" what is good, bad, acceptable.

This is the reason, why I don't even bother with non gameplay trailers. I do agree that you have to look in to reviews these days.
Now to make it clear: I don't defend people who just don't like game after playing it for 50h etc. if a game had a demo and after playing demo you bought it, then no refunds for you.
Now if game is falsely advertised and when you buy it it is just broken and crapy game - refund all the way.

I really wanted to like brink and they had everything going for it. Good story and ideas. When we got game it was a freaking striped down crapy game with no story or characters, mediocre gameplay and totally broken multiplayer with huge lag issues. They knew they ****ed up, so that even game free dlc after launch to make up for it. ( which still did not work... )

What a horrible precedent to be setting.

gizmo

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Gizmo:

All those games drop in to false advertisement category and games are the best at getting away with it.

If you buy a TV which is advertised to be 42inch, but in reality you get 27inch then you are entitled for full refund.
You buy a car which is 5 door, but in reality it has only 3 doors, then you entitled for a refund ( no matter how stupid this sounds, it's just examples )
If you buy a cake which has to have a flavour of strawberry, but I'm reality it's a flavour of soggy socks, then you entitled for a refund.

Video game industry is getting away with this shiet, because it is so "not clarified" what is good, bad, acceptable.

But those examples don't apply to games. An appropriate example would be buying that 42" TV, getting a 42" TV but finding out the picture quality isn't as good as a different 42" model. Where have these games been falsely advertised in such a way?

As for video games not being clear what is good, bad and horrible quality wise, I don't see how it's different from any other media, be it music, literature or movies.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

This is the reason, why I don't even bother with non gameplay trailers. I do agree that you have to look in to reviews these days.
Now to make it clear: I don't defend people who just don't like game after playing it for 50h etc. if a game had a demo and after playing demo you bought it, then no refunds for you.
Now if game is falsely advertised and when you buy it it is just broken and crapy game - refund all the way.

Again, where were they falsely advertised? Trailers which don't contain gameplay, for instance, are legally obliged to include a warning saying that it's non-gameplay footage. If they didn't then it would be a very clear case of false advertising.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I really wanted to like brink and they had everything going for it. Good story and ideas. When we got game it was a freaking striped down crapy game with no story or characters, mediocre gameplay and totally broken multiplayer with huge lag issues. They knew they ****ed up, so that even game free dlc after launch to make up for it. ( which still did not work... )

Right, in this case if the multiplayer was deemed unplayable due to horrific lag then you should be entitled to your money back. This is because the game is fundamentally broken. On the other hand, the gameplay being stripped down and the story being non-existent are not valid reasons for your money back as they just mean the game isn't very good. Again, there's a difference between something not being very good quality wise and a product being utterly broken.

Reamer Fanny

This game looks and plays like a Playstation 2 game, Resident Evil should go back to its roots and ditch the over-the-shoulder third person shooter that it has become.

Varik

gizmo wrote: »

Again, where were they falsely advertised? Trailers which don't contain gameplay, for instance, are legally obliged to include a warning saying that it's non-gameplay footage. If they didn't then it would be a very clear case of false advertising.

I remember Square/MS getting into some **** when they showed video of the PS3 version of 13 for those Xbox ads.

justryan wrote: »

This game looks and plays like a Playstation 2 game, Resident Evil should go back to its roots and ditch the over-the-shoulder third person shooter that it has become.

If the HD remakes do well they may see some potential going back to it.

gizmo

Varik wrote: »

I remember Square/MS getting into some **** when they showed video of the PS3 version of 13 for those Xbox ads.

I remember there being a kerfuffle about it alright, I guess that's the problem when you don't have parity between SKUs. I can imagine a lot of disgruntled PS3 Bayonetta fans too.

ShadowHearth

Right, I am not arsed to go deeper in to this topic. I know gizmo is defending his point from the side of developer and we do agree on some cases and I understand where is he coming from with refunds. Problem is gamer is quite a slime sneaky pest, who will do anything to bend over and have a go at developer or retailer. Mass effect 3 is a great example. People who play game for 50h and then refund it because of ending are quite an assholes. In perfect world if product is **** I should get refund, and please there were tons of games which were shiet and not worth full price tag, but we live In real world where people will try to **** other people by just finding a loop hole. In this case amazon return policy.

Varik, be honest, you newer ever bough a game, which was totally dissapointed? Something that newer lived up to expectations and develepers vision?
Every single game is full of shot with its advertisemt campaign. Amd no, games are not different, games are products like any other decking product in the world. If my carton of milk tasted like **** and it did stated it was milk on a carton, then I can go and refund it. Games are industry like any other, so please can we stop putting gaming industry like something special and unique? It was special way back, when people were happy to see other people play their game, it was reward on its own already. These days it is all commercialised and only here t make money, I love how gaming can take all the perks of being a business to make money, but does not take responsibility for making ****y products and taking money for it. A bit hypocritical?

No, I am not anty gamer, and most of you will know that I LOVE gaming, but lately it is becoming something really Allien for me. You see more and more cash in games with very low bar of quality and no responsibility from developer.

gizmo

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Right, I am not arsed to go deeper in to this topic. I know gizmo is defending his point from the side of developer and we do agree on some cases and I understand where is he coming from with refunds.

I most certainly am not. I am, like you, a gamer first and foremost. As you can see from other posts above, I'm also not the only one who disagrees with this precedent.

You're right though, games in this case are no different than movies, books and music. So as I asked before, if I buy a DVD/Bluray, book or album should I be able to open it, watch/read/listen to it for awhile, decide I don't like it and then bring it back to the shop for a full refund?

ShadowHearth

gizmo wrote: »

I most certainly am not. I am, like you, a gamer first and foremost. As you can see from other posts above, I'm also not the only one who disagrees with this precedent.

You're right though, games in this case are no different than movies, books and music. So as I asked before, if I buy a DVD/Bluray, book or album should I be able to open it, watch/read/listen to it for awhile, decide I don't like it and then bring it back to the shop for a full refund?

If you open a book and it clearly says: sci-fi pew pew novel in its discription, but instead you get some ****y romance crap for ladies, which throws in a word or two from sci-fi, then I don't see why should not go and refund damn thing.
If you buy a movie, which was support to be a pure good comedy, scarie movie 4-5 anyone? Amd when you watch it and it is pure shiet, then why wouldn't you get a refund? Did it made me lough? **** no, it failed at what it had to do. When I watched that in cinema I wanted to go and get refund, same as a good few other people ( I sow it in their faces ), but I was not ****ed as it was 15eu for me and misses, so I just wrote it off. And I deffenetly heard when movies, plays in theatre, shows, concerts were **** and people were demanding their money back.

I, as consumer, don't want to be bend over and fecked. If I get ****y product for money I payed I will go and get my money back. I work to hard for some cowboy get away with it.

ShadowHearth

Just to add, new gorrilaz album was pure pure shiet. I did not bought it as I listened to it first. If I would have bought that and then listen to realise how **** if is. I would be back in record shop and jaming it back up the arse of salesman if he would refuse to refund it.

It should always be up to the buyer to determine whether they are going to buy something first or not. To ensure I do not waste my money, I always do research into the book/movie/game first by looking at various reviews. If they seem to agree that the item is terrible, I won't buy it. I most certainly wouldn't buy it, find out it's crap and then return it. And I really can't see why a shop should let you do such a thing, especially when the product itself isn't faulty. They shouldn't be penalized for a customer's individual taste.

Varik

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Varik, be honest, you newer ever bough a game, which was totally dissapointed? Something that newer lived up to expectations and develepers vision?

Not for a long time, but that was usually from ignorance when i was young.

Just to name a few(names may be subject to change).

Breed, generic with the key advertised features being only minor in the real game. Still have it sadly.

Generic historic rts that had a year in it's name, jumped onto a skirmish game spend ages building a huge ship and then some ****ing Indians in canoes with sticks burnt it down. Returned it the next day, it was also on PC.

Devastation, an fps that tried to make a story out of respawning.



It's been years since i bought a game that i really regretted getting but there's a big difference between Peter Molyneux saying that Black & White 2 would allow me to give my creature armour and some sales person saying the Wii can play Halo.

gizmo

ShadowHearth wrote: »

If you open a book and it clearly says: sci-fi pew pew novel in its discription, but instead you get some ****y romance crap for ladies, which throws in a word or two from sci-fi, then I don't see why should not go and refund damn thing.

Again, totally agree.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

If you buy a movie, which was support to be a pure good comedy, scarie movie 4-5 anyone? Amd when you watch it and it is pure shiet, then why wouldn't you get a refund? Did it made me lough? **** no, it failed at what it had to do. When I watched that in cinema I wanted to go and get refund, same as a good few other people ( I sow it in their faces ), but I was not ****ed as it was 15eu for me and misses, so I just wrote it off.

Okay, first thing. You went to see Scary Movie 4 and 5 thinking they were going to be pure good comedy? :pac:

ShadowHearth wrote: »

And I deffenetly heard when movies, plays in theatre, shows, concerts were **** and people were demanding their money back.

See I specifically didn't mention the cinema above because unlike the physical forms I listed, it's an exception. As far as I'm aware in some cinema chains if you're not enjoying the movie you can leave within 20mins and get a refund. With DVDs, Blurays, books and CDs it would be impossible to know whether a customer has watched, read or listened to the entire thing.

On that note, this logic could carry over to games. For instance, if you purchase a game on Steam and after 10mins you discover it's ****ing awful, you could stop playing it, mail customer support and complain. They could then check your account, see that you've only played it for 10mins and know you aren't trying to pull a fast one.

That being said, I'm still not sure I agree with the idea full stop. At the end of day you don't buy media to like it, you buy it to consume it. Whatever happens after that is totally up to the individual and since it's such a subjective thing, I would regard it as being non-refundable.

ShadowHearth

gizmo wrote: »

Again, totally agree.


Okay, first thing. You went to see Scary Movie 4 and 5 thinking they were going to be pure good comedy? :pac:


See I specifically didn't mention the cinema above because unlike the physical forms I listed, it's an exception. As far as I'm aware in some cinema chains if you're not enjoying the movie you can leave within 20mins and get a refund. With DVDs, Blurays, books and CDs it would be impossible to know whether a customer has watched, read or listened to the entire thing.

Lol nostalgia about scaryovie! Don't judge me! .

As for physical copy: I gave album example, if it's **** and I got same or next day with receipt to refund, then why not? Them ofc like I said about real world, if I am an asshole and buy that album, listen it for a month and them go refund it, by having excuse - it wasn't really for my taste...

Same as movies. I personally buy movies that I want to keep and watch them more then one time. If I want just to watch it once, then I go rent it. So basicly if I bought a movie for full price to watch it once, then I am an idiot in the first place.
It's again something that in real world won't work ( unfortunately ). Assholes will use a refund system as a free renting place.

Though I will still demand a refund on something ****. I hope it won't happen again as I am being very very carefull with my money lately. I only buy something after putting a lot of time researching product. Even if I decide to go for an item I still give 24 hours cool down "sleep on it" time. I got burned way to many times and my money is really tight now.

cloud493

I was on the verge of buying this on friday :pac:

K.O.Kiki

Back in my day, we used to read these things called "reviews", pick the game we thought looked good, and then play it even if it sucked!

:pac:

Hygro

So is the game pure ****e??

WildCardDoW

The reason Game had to scrap there 28 day return was down to people like WarZone, cheers man, you screwed it for the rest of us.

ShadowHearth I disagree with most of your points and I can't imagine your fun to deal with! . Still if you get your refund fair play I guess...you wouldn't from me!