€ 1,000 bikes...

g0g

UPDATE: Here's the link to the Google doc tracking the options. Please feel free to add/amend any details if you have anything to add or correct! As of now (27/03) I added a second tab for mountain bikes but left it blank as I don't have a clue!

LINK TO GOOGLE SPREADSHEET

I suspect this one has been done to death, so I'm wondering might it maybe be possible to somehow have one thread on people looking for road bikes around this price via cycle to work? I'm thinking of finally upgrading from hybrid to road bike now and starting to look at bikes around that price. There are loads of threads I've looked back on, but (a) the info isn't obtainable in one place together and (b) I assume models change as time goes on?

Reading through the various threads I gather I should be looking for a carbon fork, reasonable wheels and 105 or tiagra gears/brakes. Am I right in saying most bikes around that price have some combination of the above so you may as well pick based on colour or something random!? From my various googling I'm trying to build up a table of the main bikes I should be looking at.

BRAND MODEL FRAME FORK GEARS WHEELS PRICEFelt F75Corratec Dolomiti 105Trek 1.5 2012Focus Variado 3.0Viking Roubaix 2011Boardman Comp 2011/2012Giant Defy 2Lapierre Audacio 400 DB 2012
Have I captured the main ones (on the spreadsheet) or are loads missing? I've seen people suggesting spend a bit more in other threads to get a Planet X, but I'd rather keep closer to the € 1K mark. I'm only including the F75 because it seems to be discounted on a few sites.

Thanks in advance for any input!!

patrick151

Cube Peloton: €990 would also be a contender. Its what i've been ridding for the last year and can't fault it

G rock

Are the canyon roadlites out of the equation for you?

They look the nicest I think

Hungrycol

G rock wrote: »

Are the canyon roadlites out of the equation for you?

They look the nicest I think

Just bought myself a Canyon Roadlite for €999 exc delivery or pedals. Nice looking bike with full 105 and Aksiums.

There's also Rose bikes (2200 I think) for €999 which would be very similar to Canyon.

g0g

Thanks all for the quick replies. Hadn't considered Rose or Canyon - am I right in saying you'd have to order from the UK and couldn't see a selection of new ones in a shop first?

Am hoping to maybe update my first post with a table summarising the main features of each to help others in the same boat when they come looking. What are the main things to be considering - from what I've read it seems to be frame, fork, gears, wheels, brakes, weight - that sounds about right?

monkeypants

Cube and KTM both do alloy framed, carbon forked bikes in that price range.

colm_gti

Of the ones you listed I think the felt has the better spec, try taking them all for a spin and see which one fits best.

g0g

colm_gti wrote: »

Of the ones you listed I think the felt has the better spec, try taking them all for a spin and see which one fits best.

I probably should've guessed that the best one was going to be the priciest!

Inventor

Heres the list that I started with

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/best-road-bikes-under-1000-29719/

In the end I also went with the Canyon Roadlite 6. The CAAD 10 woud have been my second choice. Neither of which on on the above list.

De Bhál

Hungrycol wrote: »

Just bought myself a Canyon Roadlite for €999 exc delivery or pedals. Nice looking bike with full 105 and Aksiums.

There's also Rose bikes (2200 I think) for €999 which would be very similar to Canyon.

From time of order, how long did it take to arrive at your door?

Inventor

De Bhál wrote: »

From time of order, how long did it take to arrive at your door?

My one took exactly one week. I was quoted 2 weeks at the time I placed the order. The web-site gives a list of bikes and sizes that are ex-stock aswell as giving estimated delivery times on each bike/model page.

Hungrycol

De Bhál wrote: »

From time of order, how long did it take to arrive at your door?

I've bought it just not received it yet. Paying for it this week and I believe delivery in about 4 weeks from now, fingers crossed maybe sooner.

g0g wrote:

Am hoping to maybe update my first post with a table summarising the main features of each to help others in the same boat when they come looking. What are the main things to be considering - from what I've read it seems to be frame, fork, gears, wheels, brakes, weight - that sounds about right?

All you need is: Make & Model, Frame, fork, gears, wheels.

You also won't see Rose or Canyon in shops because you buy them online. By doing this you get more for your money than your LBS but it also means you don't get to see them first, unless a nice boardsie has one and lets you have a test spin some day.

Hungrycol

Inventor wrote: »

My one took exactly one week. I was quoted 2 weeks at the time I placed the order. The web-site gives a list of bikes and sizes that are ex-stock aswell as giving estimated delivery times on each bike/model page.

That bodes well for my order due in week 17. We're currently in week 12 . I've gone for the black and yellow one.

Kav0777

The Specialized allez elite with 10 speed tiagra isn't on the list either.

colm_gti

Kav0777 wrote: »

The Specialized allez elite with 10 speed tiagra isn't on the list either.

I know a chap with one of these he's used for no more than 100km, as he is afraid to lock it up outside work and doesn't have the time to take it for weekend spins, I'm sure he could be persuaded to part with it...

irishllanaber

Kav0777 wrote: »

The Specialized allez elite with 10 speed tiagra isn't on the list either.

I am just about to buy this bike on Monday. Do you have one? If So how do you rate it

g0g

Kav0777 wrote: »

The Specialized allez elite with 10 speed tiagra isn't on the list either.

Thanks for the input, and based on whatever replies I get today I'll update my first post to list them all over the weekend.

irishllanaber

No off thread/off topic dealing. If anyone wants to buy/sell please do so on the advert subforum.

Kav0777

irishllanaber wrote: »

I am just about to buy this bike on Monday. Do you have one? If So how do you rate it

I got an allez 24 as my first bike a couple of years ago, and I loved it. Having said that, at the same time a friend got a similar spec'd cube (ariel i think) and that was a good bike too.

Thanks for the input, and based on whatever replies I get today I'll update my first post to list them all over the weekend.

You could also have a look at ribble, i've seen a couple of people in the club use them as a winter bike and you can change the set up on them to pick and choose what groupset, wheels etc you want.

g0g

Updated the list there a bit now, although some of the suggestions are more like € 1,200 and I'm trying to keep around the € 1K level for the purpose of the exercise. Anyone know what symbol you're meant to use as a separator to insert a table? I've edited the first post but can't remember how to put a break between columns. Do you just paste a table direct from Excel and put the TABLE format option at the top and bottom of it?

Was talking to someone last night who reckoned the Canyon Roadlite 6.0 was a no-brainer at that price level?

tracker-man

Just a suggestion, you could use make a well laid out google doc table that anyone on the thread can edit with their suggestions... I know nothing about bikes hence this post

jimm

g0g wrote: »

Rose Pro 2200 - £ 849 (excl delivery)

I changed the currency and got €999 (excl delivery) http://www.roseversand.com/article/rose-pro-2200-compact/aid:557802

Note-Delivery time 5 weeks

Icyseanfitz

ktm strada 1000 is a lovely looking bike, mix of tiagra and 105 on it

ck101

May I suggest you take a trip to Planet X Athlone.
The Pro Carbon with Force is 1299. They may throw in a set of pedals with this.
A friend is buying one next week and he has looked around a lot.

May I also suggest this..keep an eye on Adverts.ie, Gumtree, boards etc and look for an Aluminum bike with 105, Ultegra or SRAM Rival with low mileage in any size. There are loads out there (maybe not Ultegra but they do come up) selling for €500 - €600

You only need the kit, group etc from this bike. Then buy a Ridley Carbon Frame circa 800 or the Planet X Carbon Pro (€450) or RT 57 Carbon at €750.

Then sell the frame of the donor bike at €100-150 and you will have a good carbon bike with a decent group for circa 1K / 1.25k. Bikes such as this list for 2K.

g0g

Trying to update my original post with link to this spreadsheet but it won't let me! Can you not edit your posts after a couple of days or something?

Anyway here's a link to the start-off spreadsheet. Feel free to edit and correct any mistakes I made or update with better prices and other models! I put in a worksheet for mountain bikes which could be added but left it blank as I know nothing about them!

Are there features I have listed that don't matter at all? Have I missed any other decent brands, or possibly other models from the same brands?

LINK TO GOOGLE SPREADSHEET

Is my friend right that the Canyon gives the best combination of frame, equipment and overall weight for that price?

Thanks for the continued replies and hopefully this sheet might be of use to others once finished! I did see other articles online but they were sterling prices and looking at £ 1,000 not € 1,000.

g0g

A few more added onto this yesterday so the list continues to grow of options! Think I'm still gonna take the plunge on this Canyon - hope I'm not mad doing so, they seem popular enough on here!

Random question, when you buy another bike do you normally move the Garmin cadence thingy across or buy a new one? I see I can get magnets for a tenner so I'd just have to move the big psrt over and back and that'd be it.

Another random question - is there anything "wrong" with using mountain bike pedals (M520) on a road bike if I'm used to that type already?

ck101

Was in Cyclesuperstore this afternoon, they have 2 Ridley Orion Carbon Frames reduced to 499 from 999 incl forks and headset.

One problem (for me) they are both medium or 54cm.

As I said in my earlier post if you could find a good secondhand with a decent group for 500 this could get you out on a 2k bike for less than a grand.

g0g

ck101 wrote: »

Was in Cyclesuperstore this afternoon, they have 2 Ridley Orion Carbon Frames reduced to 499 from 999 incl forks and headset.

One problem (for me) they are both medium or 54cm.

As I said in my earlier post if you could find a good secondhand with a decent group for 500 this could get you out on a 2k bike for less than a grand.

Thanks yeah appreciate the suggestion on building it up, but in this case I'm focused on CTW as the end result will be a € 1K bike only costing about € 500 instead! Your option would end up costing € 1K out of pocket as it wouldn't involve buying a full bike (and qualifying for the scheme).

markyboy

Great thread!

Looking for a 1k bike myself. To those who bought a Canyon do they recognise the Irish Bike to work scheme?

Hungrycol

markyboy wrote: »

Great thread!

Looking for a 1k bike myself. To those who bought a Canyon do they recognise the Irish Bike to work scheme?

It's not about weather they recognise the Irish Bike to Work it's about your employer recognising Canyon as a supplier.

g0g

markyboy wrote: »

Great thread!

Looking for a 1k bike myself. To those who bought a Canyon do they recognise the Irish Bike to work scheme?

I just enquired with them day before yesterday and got a reply yesterday. Basically if you go through the process of ordering on their site then on the final page you can select payment method - if you choose "Pre Payment" (or something like that) then they'll actually issue you with a soft-copy invoice to your email address. I think this is sufficient for an employer assuming they're happy to deal with Canyon.

donal2000

I was looking at this one yesterday:

http://www.fujibikes.com/bike/details/roubaix-20-usa2

Fuji Roubaix 2.0 for €999. Is it a good bike for the money?

g0g

donal2000 wrote: »

I was looking at this one yesterday:

http://www.fujibikes.com/bike/details/roubaix-20-usa2

Fuji Roubaix 2.0 for €999. Is it a good bike for the money?

No idea sorry but have added it anyway to the list thanks. They all seem to have similar enough details and I'm guessing it's the equivalent of comparing a Mondeo with a Passat with an Insignia with a Mazda5 etc etc!?

colm_gti

g0g wrote: »

No idea sorry but have added it anyway to the list thanks. They all seem to have similar enough details and I'm guessing it's the equivalent of comparing a Mondeo with a Passat with an Insignia with a Mazda5 etc etc!?

That's the exact conclusion I came to when buying a new bike, no matter what your budget, most brands will have a bike that falls into your range, and they will all have a pretty identical spec, give or take, so at the end of the day it really comes down to frame fit/aesthetic preference.

donal2000

g0g wrote: »

No idea sorry but have added it anyway to the list thanks. They all seem to have similar enough details and I'm guessing it's the equivalent of comparing a Mondeo with a Passat with an Insignia with a Mazda5 etc etc!?

No probs. That's a good list you are putting together there and handy for people to reference.

smacl

g0g wrote: »

Reading through the various threads I gather I should be looking for a carbon fork, reasonable wheels and 105 or tiagra gears/brakes. Am I right in saying most bikes around that price have some combination of the above so you may as well pick based on colour or something random!?

Ok, noob to road bikes myself and will be reading this thread in detail again towards the end of the year when I plan on buying a new bike. For a first road bike I picked up a second hand bike, and started mucking about with it to get what I was after. I think the whole 105 vs tiagra thing is over emphasised for those new to road bikes. I'd focus way more on goodness of fit, relaxed vs aggressive geometry, having a wide enough gear range for the terrain your dealing with, comfy saddle, good wheels etc... I suspect the difference between good and very good drive train components is of more benefit to experienced cyclists than beginners, that and bragging rights of course.

FWIW, you could also just about get a ribble carbon bike for your grand.

Great thread BTW!

markyboy

g0g wrote: »

I just enquired with them day before yesterday and got a reply yesterday. Basically if you go through the process of ordering on their site then on the final page you can select payment method - if you choose "Pre Payment" (or something like that) then they'll actually issue you with a soft-copy invoice to your email address. I think this is sufficient for an employer assuming they're happy to deal with Canyon.

They've a couple of weeks order time which is plenty to get an invoice and have it paid into their account (bank details are on their FAQ). Going to order this evening. Thanks again.

g0g

markyboy wrote: »

g0g wrote: »

I just enquired with them day before yesterday and got a reply yesterday. Basically if you go through the process of ordering on their site then on the final page you can select payment method - if you choose "Pre Payment" (or something like that) then they'll actually issue you with a soft-copy invoice to your email address. I think this is sufficient for an employer assuming they're happy to deal with Canyon.

They've a couple of weeks order time which is plenty to get an invoice and have it paid into their account (bank details are on their FAQ). Going to order this evening. Thanks again.

Very jealous, I'm not quite ready to order yet! Look forward to hearing how you find it in the flesh (metal!)!

joker77

Voting for this to be sticky'd

Hungrycol

g0g wrote: »

I just enquired with them day before yesterday and got a reply yesterday. Basically if you go through the process of ordering on their site then on the final page you can select payment method - if you choose "Pre Payment" (or something like that) then they'll actually issue you with a soft-copy invoice to your email address. I think this is sufficient for an employer assuming they're happy to deal with Canyon.

Just a point to note. If you employer pays €1000 to Canyon by Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT) you have to pay the balance remaining (e.g. for delivery) by EFT also. I tried to pay the balance by plastic-tastic but they said they can't accept part payment by cc.

fat bloke

Yeah, great thread. Just what I was looking for meself.

I'm just off the phone there with cycleways and they say they have the specialized allez elite, tiagra, for 1029, which if correct is a good price.


edit - it's accurate alright. That's 100 quid less than other bike shops around have advertised.

rurs

Wiggle have some Wiliers reduced to under a grand, seems to be slight differences in spec between the black and white versions. I'm almost certain the fork is carbon, despite what the bumpf says, it looks the same as the one on my Escape.

g0g

rurs wrote: »

Wiggle have some Wiliers reduced to under a grand, seems to be slight differences in spec between the black and white versions. I'm almost certain the fork is carbon, despite what the bumpf says, it looks the same as the one on my Escape.

Thanks added to the (ever-growing!) list. Most of the main specs seemed to be the same on each I think.

PMC999

Hungrycol wrote: »

Just a point to note. If you employer pays €1000 to Canyon by Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT) you have to pay the balance remaining (e.g. for delivery) by EFT also. I tried to pay the balance by plastic-tastic but they said they can't accept part payment by cc.

Ask your employer to pay the full amount and you can then give your employer a cheque for the excess over €1,000. I did this recently without any hassle but of course it depends how flexible your employer is.

markyboy

Canyon have been great to deal with so far.

Needed to make a few changes to my original order as I forgot to put the Company name in as the purchaser for invoice purposes under the "Pre Pay" option.

They changed and emailed me a new invoice in under 24 hours.

g0g

Anyone have any thoughts on the Boardman Road Team (the one around € 1,150) versus Canyon Roadlite 6.0 spec? Having some difficulties sorting out electronic payment to Canyon and might (although not sure yet) have to consider local supplier. With an Axa discount taken into account the Boardman works out same price with same groupset and wheels. It seems to be a little heavier, but I'm guessing 300-400g is going to make zero difference to a non-racing beginner? Anything else important I should be considering?


BoardmanApproximate Weight (KG): 8.43
Brake Type: Dual Pivot Caliper Brake
Chainset: FSA Gossamer BB30 compact crank 50/34T
Forks: Full carbon uni-directional
Frame Colour: Grey
Frame Material: Alloy
Frame-: Ultra lightweight X9 triple butted aluminium frame with tapered headtube, internal rear brake cable and BB30 bottom bracket
Front Brake: Tektro R580 Dual pivot
Front Mech: Shimano 105
Gear Shifters: Shimano 105
Gender: Mens
Handle Bars: Boardman alloy anatomic
Headset: FSA 1.1/8 - 1.5 Aheadset
Number of Gears: 20
Pedals: N/A
Rear Brake: Tektro R580 Dual pivot
Rear Mech: Shimano 105
Saddle: Boardman black with cro-moly rails
Seatpost: Carbon Boardman 350mm x 31.6mm black
Stem: Boardman black alloy 31.8mm
Tyre size: 23c
Tyres: Vittoria Zaffiro 700x23c
Wheel size: 700c
Frame Size (cm): 55 - 56
Cassette: 12-25T
Exact Frame Size: 55cm

Canyon
Frame Canyon New F6 Technology
Fork Canyon One One Eight CF
Headset Tange IS-22 SCT
Rear Derailleur Shimano 105 black
Front Derailleur Shimano 105 black
Shifters Shimano 105
Brake levers Shimano 105
Brakes Shimano 105 Black
Hubs Mavic Aksium
Cassette Shimano 105 11-28
Rims Mavic Aksium
Tyres Continental Grand Prix 4000s
Cranks Shimano 105 black
Chainrings 50/34
Bottom Bracket Shimano 105 SM-BB5700
Stem Ritchey WCS 4-Axis (31,8)
Handlebar Ritchey WCS Evo Curve
Saddle Selle Italia X1 Special Edition
Seat post Ritchey WCS 1-Bolt

rurs

The Wiliers I mentioned earlier in this thread are nearly all gone, just Large left in the white, but more money off, and another 10% off til tomorrow.

Savage bike for €700. I'm sorely tempted myself, but I think it's just a bit too big for me..

Deedsie

Anyone see any good deals in bike to work registered bike shops in Ireland?

Beasty

Deedsie wrote: »

Anyone see any good deals in bike to work registered bike shops in Ireland?

There is no such thing as a "bike to work registered bike shop in Ireland"

Check the FAQ sticky for a link to the BTW megathread, but bikes can be purchased anywhere subject to any restrictions imposed by your emplyer