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Formula 1 Round Two: Malaysia

  • 21-03-2012 7:42pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭


    Seen as no-one else has started it yet....

    Will HRT make the grid?

    DLR says: "Our two main priorities for Malaysia are to have DRS and improve the power steering in this short time that we have whilst being away from Europe. In Australia we were only able to complete 7 timed laps so I need get more track time, get to know the car better and improve the set-up. If we can achieve this then we could have a good Grand Prix. Sepang is probably the toughest track of the year both for car and driver. Mechanically it's very demanding because besides there being a lot of consecutive high-speed corners it is very hot and humid. Cooling is key for the car as is hydration for the driver.?

    Karthikeyan says: "It wasn't an easy first weekend for us in Melbourne but the team is working hard and we hope to complete the maximum amount of kilometres with the new car so that we can have it in prime conditions for qualifying and the race. The team is working on solving the reliability issues that we encountered, so I'm confident that things will go better in Malaysia. Sepang is a circuit that I like a lot and a place where I have raced numerous times. This was the only Grand Prix out of the eight that I took part in last year that I didn't finish, so this year I'm looking to firstly qualify and then finish the race, that is the main objective.?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    They'll get into the race.

    Gonna be interesting to see how Mercedes get on this weekend. The car is obviously good at high speed, if they're decent on medium speed stuff I could see them getting pole with the 2km of straights at Sepang.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,770 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    amacachi wrote: »
    They'll get into the race.

    Gonna be interesting to see how Mercedes get on this weekend. The car is obviously good at high speed, if they're decent on medium speed stuff I could see them getting pole with the 2km of straights at Sepang.

    The 'trick' rear wing is suppose to give Mercedes an advantage - but the speed trap times don't back this up, the gap between Mercedes and other teams was marginal.

    McLaren could have gone faster in Melbourne - it looks like they have .5 to .7 of a second over the other teams.

    Button in with a good chance to win again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    I'd say Button has a good chance this weekend again, personally im keeping my fingers crossed for Vettel!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    amacachi wrote: »
    They'll get into the race.

    Gonna be interesting to see how Mercedes get on this weekend. The car is obviously good at high speed, if they're decent on medium speed stuff I could see them getting pole with the 2km of straights at Sepang.

    Its obvious Mercedes have worked on getting their car up the grid in quali. This is when the f-duct design comes to force. The problem with the race however, is that the f-duct wont help them catch the car in front because they cant use it outside +1 second.

    I expect them to qualify even better than in Melbourne and have a good start to the trace but tyre degradation will help them become sitting ducks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Button is at the top of his game, and will be all out to break Lewis early, seeing as Lewis doesn't seem to recover mentally quickly. What is Jenson's weakness? I don't think lewis has any ammunition against him!

    I'd actually like to see Button win it, if it can't be Kimi. Vettel 2nd again though to keep the championship close.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    ottostreet wrote: »
    Button is at the top of his game, and will be all out to break Lewis early, seeing as Lewis doesn't seem to recover mentally quickly. What is Jenson's weakness? I don't think lewis has any ammunition against him!

    I'd actually like to see Button win it, if it can't be Kimi. Vettel 2nd again though to keep the championship close.

    Honestly I don't think anything short of getting beaten by Lewis for 5 or 6 races would take the wind out of Button's sails. Coupla weak races after this weekend for him though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Kevski


    Infoanon wrote: »
    The 'trick' rear wing is suppose to give Mercedes an advantage - but the speed trap times don't back this up, the gap between Mercedes and other teams was marginal.

    The advantage that the rear wing gives isn't solely a top speed advantage. It's main advantage is that the front wing f-duct reduces the drag on the front wing meaning that the car is balanced when DRS is activated. This allows them to use DRS in twisty bits where other the teams can't because their cars tend to oversteer when the rear wing is opened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 LaminatorSGL


    I think Button may reign supreme once more due to the heat at Sepang. Tyres will be the key and who can preserve them the most. I'd say we could be seeing a Mercedes up on the front row, with them falling back looking at the tyre woes they had in Melbourne.

    Want Kimi to make the podium, my only wish for this weekend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    I think Button may reign supreme once more due to the heat at Sepang. Tyres will be the key and who can preserve them the most. I'd say we could be seeing a Mercedes up on the front row, with them falling back looking at the tyre woes they had in Melbourne.

    Want Kimi to make the podium, my only wish for this weekend.

    Just off the top of my head I thought tyres weren't much of an issue last year there. With the newer compounds I'd be very surprised if they were an issue this year. Also with the race as late as it will be the track temperature won't be that high.

    The decision to have the race so late is bloody stupid. Any rain and the race will have to be called early due to the poor light levels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 LaminatorSGL


    amacachi wrote: »
    Just off the top of my head I thought tyres weren't much of an issue last year there. With the newer compounds I'd be very surprised if they were an issue this year. Also with the race as late as it will be the track temperature won't be that high.

    The decision to have the race so late is bloody stupid. Any rain and the race will have to be called early due to the poor light levels.
    Actually that's true now that you mention it. Also the forecast is for storms all weekend so it may not play such a big part as I thought.

    Still going to stick with Button for the win though.


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    My money's on Sauber. They showed good straight line speed in the last race and in quali. All they need to do is up their game in quali and they'll be up in the top 6 no problemo.

    Ferrari might get away a bit this weekend with the straights. I don't think you'll see them as bad as last weekend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    My money's on Sauber. They showed good straight line speed in the last race and in quali. All they need to do is up their game in quali and they'll be up in the top 6 no problemo.

    Ferrari might get away a bit this weekend with the straights. I don't think you'll see them as bad as last weekend.

    I'd love to see them have a real crack at a few races this year. Last season they were far too conservative in my opinion. Then again I suppose there's a chance the car just doesn't have much in the way of "ultimate pace".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    ottostreet wrote: »
    Button is at the top of his game, and will be all out to break Lewis early, seeing as Lewis doesn't seem to recover mentally quickly. What is Jenson's weakness? I don't think lewis has any ammunition against him!

    I'd actually like to see Button win it, if it can't be Kimi. Vettel 2nd again though to keep the championship close.
    Jenson's weakness is his lack of outright single lap pace, meaning he always struggles to outqualify Lewis. Apart from that, he's a better guy to have in the team. Would like to see him win the championship this year with Vettel second, maybe Scu or Kimi third and Lewis 4th or worse, but that's not going to happen!
    I think McLaren will be the car to beat all season, and Lewis will start winning a few boring races on the back of qualifying on pole and just getting a good start, which will give him the confidence back. Pity, cause I don't like him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    The Australian Grand Prix provided answers to some questions posed in preseason but by and large it created even more questions.

    Is McLaren really as dominant as their impressive Melbourne performance indicated? Has Red Bull missed a trick with their new car? Are Ferrari really so far off the pace? Perhaps most intriguingly is whether Mercedes have developed a car that can legitimately challenge throughout the season.

    Malaysia should help to provide answers over the coming weekend but the big question about the opening race of the year has to be, if Red Bull was as dominant as McLaren were, would we expect a thrilling and competitive season?

    The McLaren’s showed the kind of single lap and race pace dominance which we have grown accustomed to seeing Red Bull display in recent years. Apart from their stunning front row lockout the ease with which Jenson Button opened a commanding lead from Sebastian Vettel after the safety car showed the performance advantage that McLaren had at their disposal in Melbourne. With Button able to open a 2.5s lead in the first two laps following the safety car he showed the turn of speed that McLaren have lacked in recent years and which Red Bull has had in abundance.

    With Melbourne providing a very specific challenge on the calendar-a track that needs considerable running to “rubber in” and one without high speed corners-this weekend’s race in Sepang is much more likely to give an indication of the pecking order for the coming year.
    Sepang International Circuit
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    The Malaysian Circuit is one of contrasts with two long high speed straights leading into slow second gear hairpins which are sure to see the vast majority of overtaking attempts. The middle sector of the lap is a mix of fast corners, turns 5-8, and another slow hairpin that can present overtaking opportunities, if you have a willing partner. The final sector is dominated by the challenging complex from turn 12 that is the most exciting part of the lap for drivers where they thread the eye of a needle flat out in sixth gear before finding their braking point for the next corner which leads onto the long back straight.

    With such a varied track layout the setup of the car is a compromise. Do you look for ultimate top speed at the expense of grip in the infield or vice versa? Obviously to set your car up for either extreme would be courting disaster so teams look to find a happy medium in terms of speed and grip. There is however one key point to take from this balance, the car with the fastest top speed has invariably finished inside the top five at this circuit, a factor that could play a key role in Mercedes performance this weekend.

    The heat and humidity makes this a challenging environment for drivers and team members but one which Mark Webber is clearly relishing:

    "Malaysia is obviously very, very hot, so the track temperature is very hard on the tyres, which needs managing,” said the Australian. “The track is beautiful to drive on; you really get to feel the sensation of a Formula One car, particularly in the middle sector. It's a great venue and, as a track, it has different demands to the Melbourne circuit, so that's something we'll be looking to get on top of very quickly."

    Strategy for Malaysia


    With high temperatures and high tyre degradation expected this weekend it would be very surprising if anything other than a three stop strategy was employed by the leading teams. Pirelli will bring the medium and hard compounds this weekend so we should expect some of the midfield runners to try a two stop strategy.

    With Lotus having shown impressive pace in Melbourne it will be interesting to see what the team do this weekend. We never truly saw their race pace because of Grosjean’s early retirement and Raikkonen spending much of the afternoon in traffic but they could be a wildcard front runner to try a two stop strategy.

    Pressure already building....


    There are only two states in Formula 1; applying pressure or receiving it. There is no middle ground and even at this early stage of the season the pressure is starting to build on Felipe Massa and Lewis Hamilton.

    With Ferrari struggling so badly in Australia it took a Herculean drive from Fernando Alonso to net a fifth place finish and with Massa having once again been outclassed there is huge pressure on the Brazilian. With the 2008 championship runner up in the final year of his contract there is little prospect an extension given his struggles since his Hungarian GP crash over two years ago.

    Massa doesn’t necessarily need a strong result this weekend he just needs to show his team that he can still compete with Alonso. In their two years as teammates it has been startling to see just how much of a beating Massa’s reputation has taken at the hands of the Spaniard and it is clear that it has taken its toll emotionally on Massa.

    Malaysia has never been a happy hunting ground for Felipe, his best finish is fifth, so it is unlikely that he will find the performance required this weekend but it is amazing that with only one race down of twenty that the Brazilian is already feeling the pressure.

    For Hamilton the pressure is familiar...Jenson Button outclassing him in the opening race. Last year Hamilton was firmly put in his place by Button with the 2009 champion firmly entrenching himself as the leader of McLaren. The season opened with Hamilton firing a warning shot across the garage to Button with a dominant pole but once again when the chequered flag was waved it was Hamilton who had been defeated.

    His pole lap in Melbourne was stunning but with Button claiming the win there was little doubt that, once again, Lewis had been outshone on race day. Button’s cerebral approach to racing has reaped rewards in the last two years but it does him a disservice to lay that as the only reason he has won races. Button’s race speed when the car is as he wants it is as impressive as anyone’s on the grid.

    He does lack the one lap pace of Hamilton but the trade off, in the current regulations, has allowed him to show that races have evolved from sheer sprints into a more sophisticated, tactical battle. For Hamilton this weekend is crucial. He has spent the last week saying that Australia wasn’t a reminder of last year to him; now he has to prove to the world that he can compete with Button over a race distance.

    Australia showed that the fiery, determined Hamilton is still very much a threat and without the intervention of the safety car he would have finished a comfortable second but now he has to show that he can beat Button and get his championship challenge back on track. If he fails to do so the writing may be on the wall for another season that will end in disappointment for the Englishman.

    Heat and humidity provide huge challenge to teams


    With the teams having spent the winter testing in Spain in temperatures of around 15C the challenge of racing in Malaysia is immense.

    Suddenly mechanics are forced to deal with temperatures of almost 40C and they need to adapt their cars to deal with this heat. Finding a suitable cooling solution has always been the biggest test for squads in South East Asia.

    When asked about the task of dealing with this issue Sauber’s head of engineering, Giampaulo Dall’Ara, said:

    “In terms of cooling for the engine and gearbox, you normally run the maximum available configuration in Sepang. Last, but not least, there you sometimes have to deal with changing weather conditions at very short notice."

    Remi Taffin, head of Renault Sport’s F1 operations, was keen to talk about how the French manufacturer has developed safeguards within the engine to deal with the heat:

    “Malaysia places a very different set of stresses on an engine from Australia,” commented the engineer. “The heat and humidity can present stiff challenges for an engine's cooling systems that may mean extra holes have to be put in the bodywork to diffuse heat. The safeguards Renault has put in place mean no such measures need to be taken with the RS27 so we can focus entirely on delivering the drivability needed for the flowing corners and those two long straights, which account for 25% of the lap, and building on the strong start in Melbourne.”

    Weather for this weekend


    As ever the weather in Malaysia will be one of the key factors in the outcome of the races. With high temperatures and thunder storms expected throughout the weekend. In the past we have seen downpours come out of nowhere to drench the circuit and force a safety car situation.
    In addition to this qualifying can leave teams facing a conundrum. In 2010 we saw rain hit the session and Ferrari and McLaren inexplicably left their drivers in the garage with the expectation that the track would dry. When it became clear that this would not happen the grid saw Fernando Alonso, Lewis Hamilton and Felipe Massa all eliminated in Q1. The lesson was that in Malaysia it is crucial to always be on the right tyres for the conditions rather than trying to “out-think” the weather.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Anyone watching FP1?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Just put it on there, what have I missed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Kimi pushing hard early on, Grosjean going slowly, and not a whole lot else. Massa hasn't crashed into anyone yet!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    1. Vettel, 2. Hamilton, 3. Schuey, 4. Raikkonen after 35 minutes.
    Great line-up! Rain predicted for FP2.

    Valterri Bottas driving FP1 instead of Senna.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Natalie Pinkham is terrible...she interrupts David Croft every time he introduces her. Also her wording is fantastic...

    'He's just spent half an hour on the jacks'! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭Northern Monkey


    Could someone PM me a link for a stream to the race.

    I'm away this weekend, so no Sky or Setanta to watch it on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭Carroller16


    GENTLEMEN,


    I just thought i'd remind you that the clocks go forward 1 hour at 1.00am on Sunday Morning.

    Don't want ya's missing an hour of the race now, do I.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    Could someone PM me a link for a stream to the race.

    I'm away this weekend, so no Sky or Setanta to watch it on.

    If you have Sky Sports F1 you can watch it through Sky Go on a laptop, smartphoe or tablet (IOS or Android).

    0118 999 881 999 119 725 3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭thewheel2.0


    Incredible to hear Antony Davidson say that a new KERS battery is used every race. Shows how "green" F1 really is!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    Raikkonen to get a five-place grid penalty for gearbox change. Read here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭dloob


    Incredible to here Antony Davidson say that a new KERS battery is used every race. Shows how "green" F1 really is!

    I'm sure they recycle them :pac:

    So I wonder will we see any rain in quali or the race.
    I'd like to see any easy McLaren win but a bit of rain would be interesting.
    Of course Sepang tends to do oceans of rain rather than bits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭-gilly-09-


    Looks like it probably will be Lewis on pole again, he's looking annoyingly qiuck again in FP1 and FP2. He could have a bit more pace to give aswel. If JB is in P2 for qualy i dont see it being as clean a run down to the first corner as last week.

    Thinking Torro Rossos and sauber may cause a bit of a stir in Q3 Merc seem to be suffering from higher Tyre deg again. I know its a problem for everyone in that heat. Hoping Checo can casue a sneaky suprise for Sauber and hope koby's gear box holds up.

    Should be a gud'n.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Grim.


    raining at the track at the minute :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,476 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Still bit damp offline

    Hamilton had big off, didn't hit anything , flat spotted tyres a bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,708 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    my Setanta Channels 105 & 401 are blank on UPC - anyone else's like this? All other channels are fine :confused:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭blackdog2


    Is the Setanta Channel blank for anyone else? :mad: Between Rte cutting to commercials at a crucial time during the Leinster game last night, and now this...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭me89


    astrofluff wrote: »
    my Setanta Channels 105 & 401 are blank on UPC - anyone else's like this? All other channels are fine :confused:

    Yes mine are the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,708 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    well Radio 5 Live Extra is on channel 928 if you want to switch between checking the blank screen.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭blackdog2


    For anyone with sopcast...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Massa out again in Q2 :rolleyes:
    Good show from Lotus so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 drink_milk


    Vettel 5th on hard tyres after Kimi's penalty ... may be interesting tomorrow


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭dloob


    McLaren's first ever Sepang pole surprisingly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 804 ✭✭✭doubledown


    And Schumacher's first time inside the top three in any qualifying or race session since his comeback! And his first press conference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    me89 wrote: »
    Yes mine are the same


    me too but Im on a different cablesystem in Dungarvan called cablesurf. Funnily enough the Pay per view channel is fine.

    A joke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭StephenHendry


    astrofluff wrote: »
    well Radio 5 Live Extra is on channel 928 if you want to switch between checking the blank screen.

    yeah i listen to live commentary for qualie this morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭delad


    why does hamilton put on an american accent for his interviews?!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭thewheel2.0


    Really enjoyed Qualifying, very exciting stuff with the teams so close. The Sky build up will never match the BBC but the commentary with Crofty is always good(Still is better when Davidson is with him).

    Is the BBC coverage any good? I haven't watched it.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Really enjoyed Qualifying, very exciting stuff with the teams so close. The Sky build up will never match the BBC but the commentary with Crofty is always good(Still is better when Davidson is with him).

    Is the BBC coverage any good? I haven't watched it.

    BBC coverage isn't bad. I don't watch any of the build up crap tbh so I just have my opinions on 10 minutes before the session, the session itself and about 10 minutes after it :P

    S'all good imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭StephenHendry


    Really enjoyed Qualifying, very exciting stuff with the teams so close. The Sky build up will never match the BBC but the commentary with Crofty is always good(Still is better when Davidson is with him).

    Is the BBC coverage any good? I haven't watched it.


    yeah its grand, ben edwards is a good commentator , DC is ok too as co-commentator as well. mind you i prefer the setanta coverage despite this morning hiccup with the coverage for qualiftying :rolleyes: i like they way they show practise sessions like to did a few years ago. i don't have sky so ill probably watch a good few of the beebs races that they have live. the downside to setanta is when the break or breaks happen. i think its only one so its not too bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I have Sky down here and despite Sky covering the F1, skyNZ use the BBC feed but only the commentary box, nothing else. It's so damn annoying :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,476 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    BBC commentary not too bad, as good as last year probably. Croft and Brundle pretty good though. Not really a fan of Damon Hill on sky so far. Prefer the BBC punditry I think and no ads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭antomorro-sei


    Looking forward to this tomorrow. Been away all weekend so haven't seen much of the Practice or Qualifying. Happy to see Schumacher 3rd on the grid though! :D


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    For anyone interested, there's a live radar of Kuala Lumpur here should there be any rain. It looks very showery at the moment. Was some very heavy rain about a half hour ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Another few showers before the race should suit Button nicely.

    I just hope we get a full race one way or the other, preferably with Button, Schumacher or Kimi winning. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    Just finished watching the GP2 race - the sky got very darl at one stage looked like it was going to pour. Wouldnt be surprised to see the odd shower between now and the race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Looking like a shower due pre-race. Would rather a dry start with a wet spell mid-race to throw the cat amongst the pidgeons tbh.


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