Music R.I.P

carbon nanotube

Just put on the rte site now and see that One Direction have topped the charts in the mighty US of A.

Wtf... (etc), its pretty much concludes now that the entire music industry is fubared if these 12 year olds can dominate such a market as the USA.

Themselves and justin beeebbber can go f**k themselves.

them eejits....the mind boggles

recyclebin

jealous much?

Professey Chin

Good marketing and teenage girls hormones are a powerful force -_-

mr.jingle

Music died years ago anyway!

Gevie Stee

Their O2 concert was sold out and they only had like one song!
Girls don't care about music, just how the guys look!

carbon nanotube

recyclebin wrote: »

jealous much?

no, I am just about to have an auld shave now and feel nice and masculine.

chin_grin

If you think it's dead you're paying attention to the wrong music.

Insect Overlord

Somebody's never heard of the Osmonds...

Dravokivich

Pop charts are not representitive of music on the whole. There's a lot more out there than the top whatever...

admiralofthefleet

everything's shite since joe dolan died

Agricola

Yeah the music has died. The reality tv / tween / manufactured music industry has taken over. Im not sure if this is just a case of the normal generational tastes changing "those damn kids and their loud music" etc etc. I think this is different. Some of the worst drivel that came out of the 90's was head and shoulders above the kind of bilge thats topping the charts now. The personality cult is at its zenith.

Dudess

What's with this bullsh1t fashion of saying a person's jealous when they express despair at how crap something is? I guess those who call them jealous have never ever criticised anything themselves then?

Yeah OP, chart music used to be great - it's really gone down the sh1tter. And before someone says "It's no different - you're just getting older" - nope. Chart music was of far superior quality up to the early 90s and occasionally since - prior to X Factor muck taking over.
And One Direction hot to grown women? Wtf? They're young, peachy-skinned boys! Again, just seems like bandwagon-jumping.

Plenty of good music out there though OP - just not pop/chart music. Shame. Nothing quite like a good pop toon.

Conall Cernach

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Somebody's never heard of the Osmonds...

At least with the Osmonds there was some talent and Crazy Horses is still a great song.

MagicMarker

Who da funk are One Direction?

St.Spodo

Pop music has been dreadful for years. The fact that One Direction are top of the charts doesn't make them the best band the industry has to offer today. They're not a patch on The Vaccines, for example. Don't mind the charts.

Duckworth_Luas

carbon nanotube wrote: »

Music R.I.P

Time to drive your chevy to the levy then!

chickendinner

Barely one erection between them

Mr. Presentable

Dudess wrote: »

What's with this bullsh1t fashion of saying a person's jealous when they express despair at how crap something is? I guess those who call them jealous have never ever criticised anything themselves then?

Yeah OP, chart music used to be great - it's really gone down the sh1tter. And before someone says "It's no different - you're just getting older" - nope. Chart music was of far superior quality up to the early 90s and occasionally since - prior to X Factor muck taking over.
And One Direction hot to grown women? Wtf? They're young, peachy-skinned boys! Again, just seems like bandwagon-jumping.

Plenty of good music out there though OP - just not pop/chart music. Shame. Nothing quite like a good pop toon.

There seems to be an underground rock revolution building. Puts me in mind of 1976. A lot of kids are starting to fall away from the pop genre and look for something new and shocking. I for one would welcome a new rock riot.

Logical Fallacy

OP - America is largely the worst market for music quality in the world...I am unsure why a band like One Direction achieving success there is a shock.

They love their assembly line pop bollix over there.

BBDBB

S Club 7 have reformed............if Four Horsemen turn up, start running

Discostuy

..."our latest record, or our latest electronic noise, depending on whose side you're on."

John Lennon speaking about their new record Help!


I'm afraid we all reach a certain point where "chart music" is no longer aimed at us and so they don't give a fup what you think.
No point in b*tching about it, just listen to what you like and leave the kids to their crap.

Bad Panda

What!?!

Disregard charts - they're b0llocks and don't really mean anything in terms of quality.

There's tons of great bands out there! So stop moaning and accepting what you're given by sh!t radio stations like 104 and 98fm etc and go and discover bands/music/genres yourself.

Rothko

You're talking as if they're the first boyband to ever become popular in America.

Anyway, music is still alive and well and always will be.

minidazzler

carbon nanotube wrote: »

Just put on the rte site now and see that One Direction have topped the charts in the mighty US of A.

Wtf... (etc), its pretty much concludes now that the entire music industry is fubared if these 12 year olds can dominate such a market as the USA.

Themselves and justin beeebbber can go f**k themselves.

them eejits....the mind boggles

Who was Number 1 on the charts when songs like Gimme Shelter and other great songs were released?

It wasn't those songs. In 20 years we'll remember the great music but not this crap so don't worry about it. There is a LOT of great music out there, you just don't look for it.

Chevolution

Actually music is very much alive, you're just not looking in the right places, right now there's real bands playing and writing real music all over the country and the world! In fact there's not enough hours in the day or days in the year to actually see all these bands but they are definitely out there, just not on rte.

Nothingbetter2d

the only talent in the music industry these days is marketing.

no decent bands writing and producing their own stuff get a look in anymore... its all simon cowell and co type tripe that recording labels are interested in.

Nothingbetter2d

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

OP - America is largely the worst market for music quality in the world...I am unsure why a band like One Direction achieving success there is a shock.

They love their assembly line pop bollix over there.

im just waiting for the day simon cowell and louis walsh lose thier jobs cos the type of crap they produce gets outsourced to a producer in a factory in china.

Chairman Meow

lol chart music

readyletsgo

You do know there is a wealth of other music out there on vinyl/cd/tape/mp3 still being released today besides 'chart' music from the UK or USA?

Everyone likes pop (no matter what anyone says, there is always one 'song') but for me and everyone I know, we are fully aware that there is other music out there that is being released to a mass market, such as eletro/eletronica/punk/rock etc that is in no way related to chart stuff but sells really well from an artists label site or very active on the many internet sites independently.

Basically, if you are interested in music other that 1D or pop in general you will start to look for it at a young age, for me it was Orbital when I was 14, then Aphex Twin to Boards of Canada back in 98 when I was 17 then the internet happened and I found 1000's or artists from around Ireland and the world releasing music that I'd buy online and still happens today.

Just forget about the Charts dude. Its for young girls at the end of the day, they will learn other music as they get older and if they dont, always remember, pop music is for people who do not like music.

Logical Fallacy

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

im just waiting for the day simon cowell and louis walsh lose thier jobs cos the type of crap they produce gets outsourced to a producer in a factory in china.

Given the potential for things to get lost in translation the lyrics should be a lot more interesting.

Logical Fallacy

readyletsgo wrote: »

Boards of Canada

Yuss!

super_furry

Calm down dear!

1960s The Monkees
1970s Bay City Rollers
1980s New Edition, New Kids on the Block
1990s Milli Vanilli, Backstreet Boys, Take That, Boyzone, ****ing Westlife
2000s Blue, Busted, McFly, etc
2010s One Direction

minidazzler

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

the only talent in the music industry these days is marketing.

no decent bands writing and producing their own stuff get a look in anymore... its all simon cowell and co type tripe that recording labels are interested in.

No, it's only tripe that MAJOR Record labels are interested in.

The Independents are fcuking fantastic these days. Look at Xtra Mile, they have , Frank Turner and the Sleeping Souls, Beans on Toast, Against Me and Rueben.

Laura Marling, Josh Ritter, Chuck Ragan and Jim Lockey and the Solemn Sun. There are dozens of great bands out there now.

You're just not looking hard enough.

KKkitty

It's just a sign of the times. Years ago the people who were buying cds were older and more in tune with decent music. Today the teenyboppers have more access to music with itunes and the like so vacuous pop drivel is top of the charts. Manufactured pop groups are predominantly male and aimed at the teenage girls of today.

readyletsgo

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Yuss!

New album extremely needed!!!!!!

I heard The Black Dog are doing a remix for them at the moment, lets hope its for a 'new' track from a 'new' something!

EDIT: Also, to OP, go to Forbidden Fruit this June and see what your missing....

ghostchant

minidazzler wrote: »

Frank Turner

God I miss Million Dead, they were great.
One Direction are hardly representative of modern music. Hell they're not even representative of modern pop music, which, I have to admit I prefer to pop music from the 90's and early 00's.

minidazzler

ghostchant wrote: »

God I miss Million Dead, they were great.

He is great now, going to see him in London in Wembley! And he has a new Hardcore project coming along soon with Ben from million dead and Matt Nasir.

carbon nanotube

Dave Grohl wonder what he makes of this...

I can imagine him doiing a gig and saying...

'F**k one direction, this is how we do music...........':)

Dudess

Discostuy wrote: »

..."our latest record, or our latest electronic noise, depending on whose side you're on."

John Lennon speaking about their new record Help!


I'm afraid we all reach a certain point where "chart music" is no longer aimed at us and so they don't give a fup what you think.
No point in b*tching about it, just listen to what you like and leave the kids to their crap.

Maybe so, but look at the top 10 in 1980: Blondie, The Specials, The Jam. Pop music (not music across the board) has deteriorated immeasurably.

minidazzler

carbon nanotube wrote: »

Dave Grohl wonder what he makes of this...

I can imagine him doiing a gig and saying...

'F**k one direction, this is how we do music...........':)

He's too nice for that, he'd only do something like that if they were dicks to him.

AllGunsBlazing

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Somebody's never heard of the Osmonds...

I've never heard this one direction lot but I seriously doubt they have a song that rocks quite like this...
:mad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiNnDpIW918

ScumLord

This is what's known as popular culture OP. To avoid it throw out your TV, set your radio alarm clock to the buzzing noise and stop reading newspapers. The world is actually a beautiful place when you ignore the popular media.

rossie1977

music died along time ago, just look at the main headliners for the major rock festivals across europe this summer, metallica, kiss, black sabbath, soundgarden, pearl jam, queen, faith no more, all from the 70s 80s and early 90s

Sea Sharp

Music is better than it's ever been. if you look at the top 20 chart from any particular week from the 60s 70s or 80s it will be mostly tripe that's long since been forgotten about. Recent times gave us the likes of Radiohead which are up there with Pink Floyd etc.. (Post OK Computer.)

foxyboxer

For every One Direction there's an Adele. It's the music industry after all.
The lads in One Direction are essentially employees of the recording company and are probably on a pittance of a contract and will most likely not see adequate remuneration once the next big thing comes along.

All these talent competitions are based on the business model of people phoning in to vote and getting charged every week thus generating enormous sums of money. Wash, Rinse and Repeat.

In terms of the singing competitions, anyone with a bit of coaching and a lot of self confidence can hold a note. However, not everyone can compose, arrange and perform their own pieces and seeing Adele get the acclaim she's gotten gives us at least the prospect of others following suit in future.

Where are the competitions for creating new songs?
What is the last song that has become a classic?

foxyboxer

Sea Sharp wrote: »

Music is better than it's ever been. if you look at the top 20 chart from any particular week from the 60s 70s or 80s it will be mostly tripe that's long since been forgotten about. Recent times gave us the likes of Radiohead which are up there with Pink Floyd etc.. (Post OK Computer.)

Radiohead have spent their careers trying to escape the record companies.
When was the last time a Radiohead song was played on a mainstream radio station?

carbon nanotube

minidazzler wrote: »

He's too nice for that, he'd only do something like that if they were dicks to him.

probably, he most likely doesnt know who they are anyway.

ScumLord

foxyboxer wrote: »

Radiohead have spent their careers trying to escape the record companies.
When was the last time a Radiohead song was played on a mainstream radio station?

They play them on midwest radio all the time. That's how knew I was a grown up when I heard it on there. "Creep" it was too, in between the results from some local horse race.

Latchy

I'm looking foreward to hearing that the new album from 80s synth kings 'Ultravox ' which will be released any day now , will knock these chappies off their perch and go straight to number one in the album charts . :cool:

Of course it's not going to happen but for an over 40's bloke , my hearts in the right place .

My teen daughter has seen The Wanted twice and One Direction once this year but she's exactly the audience these guys are marketed for .

Mr. Presentable

No disrespect folks, but for the kids - the ones who will shape popular music - Radiohead, Foo Fighters and co are like classic rock. You know, the stuff the "hip" older folk like, the stuff your Da likes.

Superbus

minidazzler wrote: »

Who was Number 1 on the charts when songs like Gimme Shelter and other great songs were released?

For the record, Gimme Shelter was released on Let It Bleed, on December 5th 1969.

Number 1 in the UK on that day?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTfLreVPNVo