Bottle of wine binge drinking?

geeman · 21-03-2012 7:30am #1

Would drinking a bottle of red wine by yourself be considered binge drinking?
I get drunk on a bottle but i sober up fairly quick and it's no big deal but maybe a full bottle is too much?

galwayrush · 21-03-2012 7:31am

Too much for what ? .... hic...

qz · 21-03-2012 7:33am

1 bottle? Go big or go home OP.

policarp · 21-03-2012 7:35am

galwayrush wrote: »

Too much for what ? .... hic...

You're drinking too fast if you get the hiccups. . .

geeman · 21-03-2012 7:36am

well, i could handle 2 bottles no bother, wouldn't even flinch.

galwayrush · 21-03-2012 7:38am

policarp wrote: »

You're drinking too fast if you get the hiccups. . .

A very good point.
:cool:

clappyhappy · 21-03-2012 7:40am

They were talking on the radio a few weeks ago about drinking, and they were saying that the Irish have become very relaxed about drinking wine. Thinwking ah we will share a bottle or open up one and drink it yourself over the course of the evening, anyway this Dr said that drinking a bottle of wine is equivalent to drinking 5 pints of beer. So would you consider going out and drinking 5 pints as binge drinking? Personally I have often drank a bottle or more to myself, but it did get me thinking.

geeman · 21-03-2012 7:44am

probably half a bottle wouldn't do any harm

donegal_road · 21-03-2012 7:46am

over how many years OP?

geeman · 21-03-2012 7:51am

might drink a bottle or 2 a week, i normally drank Guinness, how many years does it take to affect your health?
actually, i find the wine helps me relax more than other alcoholic drinks, probably good for the heart in moderation.

Teyla Emmagan · 21-03-2012 8:57am

Bottle of red wine can have 14 units in it, which is woman's weekly limit. Nearly 3/4s of a man's. And if it get's you drunk it's technically binge drinking.

Interesting question for 7.30 in the morning though OP.

Babooshka · 21-03-2012 9:10am

geeman wrote: »

Would drinking a bottle of red wine by yourself be considered binge drinking?
I get drunk on a bottle but i sober up fairly quick and it's no big deal but maybe a full bottle is too much?

How many nights would you drink a whole bottle? The label binge drinking isn't so important it's the long term damage drinking a bottle a few times a week does to your brain and liver. So if it's once a week I'd say no problem, if three or four times a week, say hello to mental problems or cirrhosis, or both in your latter years!

foxyboxer · 21-03-2012 9:16am

It's a rule written in stone.

Once a bottle of wine is opened it must be consumed entirely.

BluesBerry · 21-03-2012 9:22am

I would have a bottle of wine 3-4 nights a week I would never be drunk and I don't consider it binge drinking.
All these statistic makers wouldn't be in employment if they didn't come up with something new each week to scare the population

CardBordWindow · 21-03-2012 9:24am

Is a bottle of whiskey in a night classed as binge drinking?

BraziliaNZ · 21-03-2012 9:26am

I think it's considered too much in one sitting by the kranks who release these "guidelines". But for me if I have to work the next morning and I have a full bottle of red, I don't feel so good or the whole day, pretty rotten actually, but not enough to be rendered incapable.

AngryBollix · 21-03-2012 9:35am

CardBordWindow wrote: »

Is a bottle of whiskey in a night classed as binge drinking?

No. Elbow greasing at worst

stimpson · 21-03-2012 9:36am

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

But for me if I have to work the next morning and I have a full bottle of red, I don't feel so good or the whole day, pretty rotten actually, but not enough to be rendered incapable.

Try paying a bit more for your wine. Nothing says hangover like cheap red wine.

OldNotWIse · 21-03-2012 9:43am

geeman wrote: »

Would drinking a bottle of red wine by yourself be considered binge drinking?
I get drunk on a bottle but i sober up fairly quick and it's no big deal but maybe a full bottle is too much?

Probably over your unit allowance alright. I would have the same and sometimes more.

Mr. Loverman · 21-03-2012 9:46am

I can't believe this question is being asked.

Of course (!!!!) drinking a bottle of wine by yourself is binge drinking.

And if you really mean by yourself as in you're sitting at home alone getting drunk on a bottle of wine... that is not good.

markesmith · 21-03-2012 9:49am

If you have to ask OP...

Chuck Stone · 21-03-2012 9:56am

You have a DISEASE.

Princess Peach · 21-03-2012 9:58am

Ah a bottle of wine. Back in my binge drinking days I would drink a bottle of wine, down 3 shots of Micky Finns in a row, and then hit the club before 12.

Good times. Good times.

mathepac · 21-03-2012 10:14am

BluesBerry wrote: »

I would have a bottle of wine 3-4 nights a week I would never be drunk and I don't consider it binge drinking.
All these statistic makers wouldn't be in employment if they didn't come up with something new each week to scare the population

That consumption is two-and-and-a-half times the weekly maximum for a male if his drinking is not to cause long-term damage.

I suggest you need to cut down drastically or you could face serious consequences. It's not getting or feeling drunk that's at issue here it all; it's the cumulative effect of all that wine on the your body's systems that's the danger. In other words you don't need to get drunk, whatever that means to you, to be in physical danger from alcohol.

Beefy78 · 21-03-2012 10:14am

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I can't believe this question is being asked.

Of course (!!!!) drinking a bottle of wine by yourself is binge drinking.

And if you really mean by yourself as in you're sitting at home alone getting drunk on a bottle of wine... that is not good.

Why is it not good? I don't drink at home at all but drinking a bottle to yourself on a Saturday evening whilst watching a couple of films and Match of the Day doesn't seem like a problem to me.

Binge drinking gets a bad press. Personally, I don't see the point in drinking unless it's a binge.

Mr. Loverman · 21-03-2012 10:18am

Beefy78 wrote: »

Why is it not good? I don't drink at home at all but drinking a bottle to yourself on a Saturday evening whilst watching a couple of films and Match of the Day doesn't seem like a problem to me.

Binge drinking gets a bad press. Personally, I don't see the point in drinking unless it's a binge.

I am pretty sure a doctor would say drinking a full bottle of wine in one sitting is bad for you hence why I have a problem with it.

The part of your quote in bold is a bit scary.

PS I myself have drank a full bottle of wine myself in one sitting more than once or twice, but I guess the difference is I know and accept this is bad for me!
PPS I have travelled a lot and one thing I noticed very quickly was we Irish people really do have a problem with alcohol.

Beefy78 · 21-03-2012 10:24am

Well I'm not Irish.

If you think that that is scary then you must scare easily. I don't see the point in drinking a bottle of beer or a glass of wine in an evening. I'd much rather go out for a proper drink every three or four weeks.

Mr. Loverman · 21-03-2012 10:26am

Beefy78 wrote: »

Well I'm not Irish.

If you think that that is scary then you must scare easily. I don't see the point in drinking a bottle of beer or a glass of wine in an evening. I'd much rather go out for a proper drink every three or four weeks.

I don't scare easily, I just understand thinking alcohol is only good for binge drinking means you do not have a healthy relationship with alcohol. I am sorry I have to say that to you.

Spunge · 21-03-2012 10:31am

Beefy78 wrote: »

Well I'm not Irish.

If you think that that is scary then you must scare easily. I don't see the point in drinking a bottle of beer or a glass of wine in an evening. I'd much rather go out for a proper drink every three or four weeks.

Me too, personally having the odd drink doesnt really work for me. So i just drink heavily once every few months.

Princess Peach · 21-03-2012 10:33am

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I don't scare easily, I just understand thinking alcohol is only good for binge drinking means you do not have a healthy relationship with alcohol. I am sorry I have to say that to you.

As someone who used to binge drink on a way too regular basis, he is right! It really is not healthy, and I know I had a problem. I knew for sure I had a problem when I found it very difficult to stop. I wasn't what you typically call an alcoholic, as I didn't drink everyday, but drinking yourself to a blackout on a regular basis is a problem too.

Much prefer just having a few casual pints now, getting a little merry, remembering my night, not being a fool and being alive the next day

BraziliaNZ · 21-03-2012 10:33am

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I don't scare easily, I just understand thinking alcohol is only good for binge drinking means you do not have a healthy relationship with alcohol. I am sorry I have to say that to you.

Some people like to get a little drunk sometimes, it's nice to give your brain a rest from worries etc once in a while. So what if it's a little bit unhealthy. We'll all die sooner or later anyway. Jim Stynes was probably a picture of health until he got cancer and they cut 20 tumours out of him before he died at 45.

If you want to enjoy a bottle of wine go for it. Carpe diem.

Beefy78 · 21-03-2012 10:34am

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I don't scare easily, I just understand thinking alcohol is only good for binge drinking means you do not have a healthy relationship with alcohol. I am sorry I have to say that to you.

I have a very healthy relationship with alcohol, thank you. I drink once or twice a month and rarely get drunk. Didn't touch a drop on Paddys Day, for example. I know loads of people who drink a glass or two most evenings. I don't think that that is good for them but it's their life and if it works for them then it's no one else's business, really. Unlike you, I don't feel the need or right to enforce my values onto other people.

Princess Peach · 21-03-2012 10:36am

Beefy78 wrote: »

I have a very healthy relationship with alcohol, thank you. I drink once or twice a month and rarely get drunk. Didn't touch a drop on Paddys Day, for example. I know loads of people who drink a glass or two most evenings. I don't think that that is good for them but it's their life and if it works for them then it's no one else's business, really. Unlike you, I don't feel the need or right to enforce my values onto other people.

If you are rarely getting drunk you're not bingeing right then :pac:

Beefy78 · 21-03-2012 10:38am

Princess Peach wrote: »

If you are rarely getting drunk you're not bingeing right then :pac:

I'm cursed with an inability to get absolutely smashed. It's annoying. I drink and drink and drink but I'm still standing at the end. It would be much cheaper if I passed out in the corner after a couple like some of my friends do

Mr. Loverman · 21-03-2012 10:39am

Beefy78 wrote: »

I have a very healthy relationship with alcohol, thank you. I drink once or twice a month and rarely get drunk. Didn't touch a drop on Paddys Day, for example. I know loads of people who drink a glass or two most evenings. I don't think that that is good for them but it's their life and if it works for them then it's no one else's business, really. Unlike you, I don't feel the need or right to enforce my values onto other people.

Hang on... you previously said alcohol is only good for binge drinking.

And I'm not forcing my values onto other people. What a strange thing to say.

Mr. Loverman · 21-03-2012 10:41am

Beefy78 wrote: »

I don't see the point in drinking unless it's a binge.

Beefy78 wrote: »

I have a very healthy relationship with alcohol

Beefy78 wrote: »

I drink and drink and drink but I'm still standing at the end.

Please look at what you're saying.

gbee · 21-03-2012 10:43am

Red Wine is good. The rate of consumption is one glass a day. With six glasses officially in a bottle, then a bottle should last the week.

RED Wine is good in some respects, but it has more overall harmful effects pro rata consumption visavis beer and less visavis spirits.

Red Wine is not as bad as white wine [read Best's Story] and wine is strong. Manufactures are making more and more fortified wines with higher alcohol rates.

There seems to be a general misconception among the public that wine is like a shandy and low %.

minidazzler · 21-03-2012 10:43am

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Bottle of red wine can have 14 units in it, which is woman's weekly limit. Nearly 3/4s of a man's. And if it get's you drunk it's technically binge drinking.

Interesting question for 7.30 in the morning though OP.

Weekly limits which were completely pulled out of the air.

Except for the fact that wine is not for me, 1 bottle may be binge drinking by other peoples standards but it doesn't seem all that much to me. I don't consider it a binge until I'm at least 7 pints in, and once I'm that far along it's turning into a bender anyway.

Beefy78 · 21-03-2012 10:54am

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Please look at what you're saying.

I am reading what I'm saying. I drink probably three times every two months. On these three occasions I'll binge. Personally I think that that is better than drinking a small amount four or five times a week. But that's just my opinion.

I'd rather go out with my friends and have a few drinks than have a glass of red with my dinner. That is what soft drinks are for.

I can happily go two or three months without a drop of alcohol without second thought. I think that is a healthy relationship with alcohol. On the other hand I'm going away for a weekend next month with some friends and can't wait to hit a pub and do some proper binge drinking.

If people are getting smashed four times a week then of course that isn't good. But if people are living their lives, causing no harm to anyone other than maybe themselves, maybe getting drunk once a month or maybe, God forbid, having a bottle of wine to themselves one evening then what right do you or anyone else have to criticise them?

Teyla Emmagan · 21-03-2012 10:54am

minidazzler wrote: »

Weekly limits which were completely pulled out of the air.

Except for the fact that wine is not for me, 1 bottle may be binge drinking by other peoples standards but it doesn't seem all that much to me. I don't consider it a binge until I'm at least 7 pints in, and once I'm that far along it's turning into a bender anyway.

But it's not about whether you consider it a binge or not, it's about whether the medical profession do. It's about the number of units you've consumed, not if they've had any effect on you or not. Just sayin', like.

I think wine can be pretty lethal actually. Have read too many articles (ok, probably the Daily Mail again) about people in their 50s who need a liver transplant. Never 'drank heavily', just 'had a glass or two of wine every night'. Too may people don't seem to respect that wine is actually pretty strong alcohol I think.

And I'm a whole way away from perfect myself, but I also don't fool myself that what I'm doing is okay when I'm cracking open that third bottle of Chateauneauf du Pape on a Monday evening.

keith_d99 · 21-03-2012 10:56am

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Bottle of red wine can have 14 units in it, which is woman's weekly limit. Nearly 3/4s of a man's. And if it get's you drunk it's technically binge drinking.

Interesting question for 7.30 in the morning though OP.

14 units??!? At most 8 according to drinkaware .....

For example, a bottle of wine (750ml) with an ABV of 12% contains 7 standard drinks, while a bottle of wine (750ml) with an ABV of 13.5% contains 8 standard drinks.

1 bottle wine is the equivalent of 4 pints

Mr. Loverman · 21-03-2012 10:56am

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

But it's not about whether you consider it a binge or not, it's about whether the medical profession do. It's about the number of units you've consumed, not if they've had any effect on you or not. Just sayin', like.

I think wine can be pretty lethal actually. Have read too many articles (ok, probably the Daily Mail again) about people in their 50s who need a liver transplant. Never 'drank heavily', just 'had a glass or two of wine every night'. Too may people don't seem to respect that wine is actually pretty strong alcohol I think.

And I'm a whole way away from perfect myself, but I also don't fool myself that what I'm doing is okay when I'm cracking open that third bottle of Chateauneauf du Pape on a Monday evening.

Everyone has heard what the medical profession have to say, so really at this stage I think it is plain denial.

Beefy78 · 21-03-2012 10:57am

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

I think wine can be pretty lethal actually. Have read too many articles (ok, probably the Daily Mail again) about people in their 50s who need a liver transplant. Never 'drank heavily', just 'had a glass or two of wine every night'. Too may people don't seem to respect that wine is actually pretty strong alcohol I think.

Sounds like these people would have been better off not having a glass or two a night and just drinking when the objective of the evening was to get drunk.

If God had intended us to drink five times a week he wouldn't have invented Robinson's Fruit & Barley.

Mr. Loverman · 21-03-2012 10:59am

Beefy78 wrote: »

If God had intended us to drink five times a week he wouldn't have invented Robinson's Fruit & Barley.

I'm an atheist but... if god had intended us to binge drink he wouldn't have created hangovers...

I agree though that drinking heavily or sort of heavily every day is obviously bad.

Teyla Emmagan · 21-03-2012 11:04am

keith_d99 wrote: »

14 units??!? At most 8 according to drinkaware .....

For example, a bottle of wine (750ml) with an ABV of 12% contains 7 standard drinks, while a bottle of wine (750ml) with an ABV of 13.5% contains 8 standard drinks.

I dunno about that, (from Wikipedia) "A 750 ml bottle of 14.5% ABV wine contains 10.88 units." 11 units and a woman's weekly allowance of 14 aren't that far apart.

I will admit I may have been working on the dramatic effect principle, but all I'm saying is that a bottle of wine can actually have a lot more units in it than most people realise. And increasingly we are drinking stronger and stronger proof (if that's the word) wines, without even knowing it. You think you're having 7 units, but you could actually be drinking nearly twice that.

OldNotWIse · 21-03-2012 11:05am

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I can't believe this question is being asked.

Of course (!!!!) drinking a bottle of wine by yourself is binge drinking.

And if you really mean by yourself as in you're sitting at home alone getting drunk on a bottle of wine... that is not good.

Why is "sitting at home alone" getting drunk different to going out getting drunk? Are the units not the same? I have an alcoholic brother who does not drink at home alone (in fact he can go for weeks or months without drink) but when he does go out and drink he completely loses it, does not know when to stop and is a danger to himself and probably others.

Teyla Emmagan · 21-03-2012 11:05am

Beefy78 wrote: »

Sounds like these people would have been better off not having a glass or two a night and just drinking when the objective of the evening was to get drunk.

Apparently binge drinking as you suggest is way worse for your liver than just having one or two a night.

Okay, I must actually go and do some work...

OldNotWIse · 21-03-2012 11:09am

Beefy78 wrote: »

Why is it not good? I don't drink at home at all but drinking a bottle to yourself on a Saturday evening whilst watching a couple of films and Match of the Day doesn't seem like a problem to me.

Binge drinking gets a bad press. Personally, I don't see the point in drinking unless it's a binge.

Seems to me it's more frowned upon to drink a bottle to yourself at home, relaxing than it is to get sh1t faced and be falling around the city centre at 4 in the morning...

Mr. Loverman · 21-03-2012 11:13am

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Why is "sitting at home alone" getting drunk different to going out getting drunk?

Drinking on your own is one of the signs of alcoholism / having a drink problem.

Of course I don't think everyone who drinks on their own is an alcoholic, but really it is common sense that people who get drunk at home on their own (regularly or semi-regularly) probably have an unhealthy relationship with alcohol. For example, they use alcohol to cope with their loneliness or to avoid dealing with problems in their life.

For the record I sometimes drink on my own but I don't see any reason to be in denial about the reality of alcohol.

OldNotWIse · 21-03-2012 11:17am

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I am pretty sure a doctor would say drinking a full bottle of wine in one sitting is bad for you hence why I have a problem with it.

The part of your quote in bold is a bit scary.

PS I myself have drank a full bottle of wine myself in one sitting more than once or twice, but I guess the difference is I know and accept this is bad for me!
PPS I have travelled a lot and one thing I noticed very quickly was we Irish people really do have a problem with alcohol.

I am Irish. I agree we have a problem with drink as a nation. I agree that I have a problem with drink (particularly when it runs out, I hate that part!). I think some people here (myself included) know that we are going over the limits, and accept that it is bad...and think so the hell what? We all do things that are bad for us. I know wine is bad for me (especially coupled with a zanax) but I enjoy it and am not willing to give it up.

OldNotWIse · 21-03-2012 11:19am

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Drinking on your own is one of the signs of alcoholism / having a drink problem.

Of course I don't think everyone who drinks on their own is an alcoholic, but really it is common sense that people who get drunk at home on their own (regularly or semi-regularly) probably have an unhealthy relationship with alcohol. For example, they use alcohol to cope with their loneliness or to avoid dealing with problems in their life.

For the record I sometimes drink on my own but I don't see any reason to be in denial about the reality of alcohol.

Who is in denial about the reality of alcohol? I drink on my own, and I would consider myself to be an alcoholic (not because I drink on my own but because I know my reasons for drinking - shutting out, relaxing, escape etc) I just wanted to be sure that people are not saying everyone who drinks alone is an alcoholic. It is a fairly common misconception.

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