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Clan map - Who is around us

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,436 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    cro_bully wrote: »
    I hope they'll send us some fries. :D
    Except it is from Belgium... but we'll take a bottle of champagne instead ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Fionn Mc Coule


    Ha ha!! Damn iPhone!!

    Lol i was sitting scratching my head, big time :p:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭cro_bully


    Nody wrote: »
    Except it is from Belgium... but we'll take a bottle of champagne instead ;)

    Well they are called french. I would like some cheese too. And that french bread. You know the long one ( at least in croatia we call it french)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,436 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    cro_bully wrote: »
    Well they are called french. I would like some cheese too. And that french bread. You know the long one ( at least in croatia we call it french)
    Full length baguette? Also so did the Americans, hence why they had "freedom fries" in their Senates canteen for two years...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Fionn Mc Coule


    French fries, with garlic sauce and cheddar cheese, Mmmmmmmmm
    U lot have me drooling at the mouth dam u.:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Fionn Mc Coule


    Ok I have agreed a NAP with CTU.

    It is for an indefinite period, with the option for either clan to end it giving 3 days notice of the intention to attack.

    This gives us the opportunity to concentrate on helping our friends, the 501 by attacking R_R.

    I want Western Mopti too. But it will have to wait for now.

    I am sorry to say this Dub but this was the worst thing you have done, we are after working hard to get certain deals done, naps and work on potential alliances were in place and discussions were in work, Now an alliance of 4-5 clans are attacking CTU (clans we were talking to) and we cant do anything to help them only watch, the 1 piece of land that we needed was western mopti and we have now gave it up to a member of a 4 clan alliance who we had no bloddy relationship with. and are all over our north.
    Why was this done without knowing who we had talked to over last few days. CTU are as good as gone and we are hiding behind a promise of 3 days notification, i never heard anything so stupid so far in this game and believe cause of this we are going to be protrayed as a clan that are scared to commit and as a result no major alliance would thouch.

    Us v alliance of 4-5 never going to work out well for us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭DesperateCry


    Indeed, every region of CTU is getting attacked by a clan, then it's probably our turn next.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    I am sorry to say this Dub but this was the worst thing you have done, we are after working hard to get certain deals done, naps and work on potential alliances were in place and discussions were in work, Now an alliance of 4-5 clans are attacking CTU (clans we were talking to) and we cant do anything to help them only watch, the 1 piece of land that we needed was western mopti and we have now gave it up to a member of a 4 clan alliance who we had no bloddy relationship with. and are all over our north.

    Fionn, the Scorpian clan and the Italians were looking for more land and EPA were coming down this way anyway. They are on to CTU because they are relatively weak not because of a grand alliance, imo.

    Ideally, we should have a strong clan sitting in Western Mopti, they get all round protection in return for helping defend our states.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    I am sorry to say this Dub but this was the worst thing you have done, we are after working hard to get certain deals done, naps and work on potential alliances were in place and discussions were in work, Now an alliance of 4-5 clans are attacking CTU (clans we were talking to) and we cant do anything to help them only watch, the 1 piece of land that we needed was western mopti and we have now gave it up to a member of a 4 clan alliance who we had no bloddy relationship with. and are all over our north.
    Why was this done without knowing who we had talked to over last few days. CTU are as good as gone and we are hiding behind a promise of 3 days notification, i never heard anything so stupid so far in this game and believe cause of this we are going to be protrayed as a clan that are scared to commit and as a result no major alliance would thouch.

    Us v alliance of 4-5 never going to work out well for us.

    Don't agree Fionn. With all due respect we have been involved in talks with a fair few clans over the past couple of days, and we needed to help the 501 (the only clan that have asked). I discussed this yesterday / Friday with the others that were on at the time.

    In order to do this, the NAP with CTU has given us time to not spread ourselves too thin and lose too many tanks.

    There's no rush. Mopti is the one province I want to complete our little zone - though at the moment I must say I'm tempted by taking R_R and their friends, EAS land from them.

    Personally I don't give a sh1t who or what is attacking CTU at the moment - we won't be helping them defend, and I have a 3 day reneg clause on the NAP.

    I'd also like to state that the 3 day clause only works if I decide to keep to my word - but it may be more valuable to ignore it and take the land maybe tomorrow - depending on how their battles fair out tonight.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,436 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Don't agree Fionn. With all due respect we have been involved in talks with a fair few clans over the past couple of days, and we needed to help the 501 (the only clan that have asked). I discussed this yesterday / Friday with the others that were on at the time.

    In order to do this, the NAP with CTU has given us time to not spread ourselves too thin and lose too many tanks.

    There's no rush. Mopti is the one province I want to complete our little zone - though at the moment I must say I'm tempted by taking R_R and their friends, EAS land from them.

    Personally I don't give a sh1t who or what is attacking CTU at the moment - we won't be helping them defend, and I have a 3 day reneg clause on the NAP.

    I'd also like to state that the 3 day clause only works if I decide to keep to my word - but it may be more valuable to ignore it and take the land maybe tomorrow - depending on how their battles fair out tonight.
    To late, all CTU land is lost. Mopti is taken by RDA and their allies are north of us, their south allies are SIEG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Nody wrote: »
    To late, all CTU land is lost. Mopti is taken by RDA and their allies are north of us, their south allies are SIEG.


    So I see. No biggie really.

    Mopti would have been lost tonight either way, be it by us or RDA taking it (which would be reneging on our NAP). At least this way we haven't entered into a number of battles this evening and possibly lost a crap load of tanks to RDA - we don't know their strength.

    If us - it would have meant this whole agreement with SIEG would be out the window, and we'd be leaving ourselves open to attack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Fionn Mc Coule


    Fionn, the Scorpian clan and the Italians were looking for more land and EPA were coming down this way anyway. They are on to CTU because they are relatively weak not because of a grand alliance, imo.

    Ideally, we should have a strong clan sitting in Western Mopti, they get all round protection in return for helping defend our states.

    Well why were we asked to be involved in the mass attack on CTU by scorpions? Ohh and by the way, scorpions, EPA and FROG are all friends.

    We could have had western mopti tonight, but now we have to attack the italian clan to get it, the same italian clan that are in an alliance with the 3 clans to their north and left.

    As of tonight i found out it dosent matter if we lose all our land and are kicked out of western africa and also it makes more sense to attack a clan who are in a 5 clan alliance rather than attack a clan who are not allied to anyone. :rolleyes::confused:

    Seemingly we are strong enough to def ourselves against 3 clans if they attack us at same time yet we were worried enough to give CTU a nap who got wiped out in 1 night by 4 clans, :confused: but our bravo says we can def against a 3 clan attack if it comes. :confused:

    We dont want to sit in NAP land yet we work dam hard to get a load of NAPs with other clans every night. :confused:

    we can make snap decisions without knowing all the facts or other conversations that happened in the past, makes sense :D:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Fionn - that is NOT what I said tonight and you know it.

    Hindsight is always 20:20 - but really, who cares that wew don't have Mopti tonight?? I personally don't.

    I don't see us sitting on the land we currently have forever, this is a game after all, and games must be played.

    Who's to say the better group to be aligned with don't look at us from the east?

    Just because these guys have come to us first, doesn't mean that we should immediately take every NAP we're offered.

    If we want to take Western Mopti - I'm all for going ahead and taking it.

    Chickens won't attack us, and SIEG can't (and we've have an agreement with them).

    The only ones that can are ITA and RDA. Therefore I'd be happy to take mopti, and even give up Southern Hich Ed Charqi or whatever its called.

    This map will evolve for some time yet. And this isn't all about gold either (the land we hold earns shag all anyway). Its about the competition - and right now we're competitive, and we should keep that competitive edge by fighting.

    The best way we can ward off other clans, is by showing them we can beat anyone. And so far I don't recall us losing a single battle since we moved to Western Africa. We've been doing bloody good, and I'd like to keep it that way.

    We can't suddenly stop having CW battles.

    Personally, I'm not afraid of any clan around us, and if we get attacked, we get attacked so be it, we deal with it then.

    We look very strong to any outside clan right now, and if we want to take any zone near us, we can pretty much do so with impunity.

    We haven't been attacked in days, which I personally believe to be a sign of our strength / fear factor with other clans.

    And Fionn - I wasn't trying to argue with you on TS - I had 1 opinion, you had another. What you said does make sense, but in my opinion, only if this was about keeping decently earning gold provinces, of which we have none.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    Well why were we asked to be involved in the mass attack on CTU by scorpions? Ohh and by the way, scorpions, EPA and FROG are all friends.
    Because Scorpions, Frogs and EPA all have lands close to one another. This sort of proves that Scorpions are playing it by ear. EPA and Frog don't want to come all the way over here anyway, not with that tank freezing, they'd be mad.
    We could have had western mopti tonight, but now we have to attack the italian clan to get it, the same italian clan that are in an alliance with the 3 clans to their north and left.
    Here's to hopeing the Scorpions take the bull by the horns and cop on to the benefits of camping there. They have the tanks, active players and chips to back us up, we'd be there for a year!


    I don't want to comment any more on discussions I'm not involved in, but I want to thank you Fionn for allowing me to reply and put in my two cents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Fionn Mc Coule


    Ok all done and finished, like i said i argued my point and can see why i did, it makes sense in my mind, if i am out voted then i can accept that and move on, i only think of things that i see and maybe i over panicked. Its because i want us to remain in western africa, poor provinces or not, lol for me a little gold per day is better than no gold, i seen how quick CTU were kicked off the face of africa and felt that could happen to us if a load of clan attacked us at same time :o maybe as bruff said i was being too negative. :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    Ok all done and finished, like i said i argued my point and can see why i did, it makes sense in my mind, if i am out voted then i can accept that and move on, i only think of things that i see and maybe i over panicked. Its because i want us to remain in western africa, poor provinces or not, lol for me a little gold per day is better than no gold, i seen how quick CTU were kicked off the face of africa and felt that could happen to us if a load of clan attacked us at same time :o maybe as bruff said i was being too negative. :o

    I'll update that map in the morning, and put in our stats as comparison with the rest. I forget, but I think we have nearly 3 times the tier tens CTU had and more players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    I'll update that map in the morning, and put in our stats as comparison with the rest. I forget, but I think we have nearly 3 times the tier tens CTU had and more players.


    We're a hell of a lot better than RDA too. -ITA- however are quite decent...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,436 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Few things to add; we got twice the T10s as CTU (110ish vs 60ish) if I remember correctly. The thing is though Africa is only a practice area. We own 5 provinces (and one we're due to give away) which give us about 300 gold a night; a European landing zone is worth 240 gold; one zone in is 480 gold.

    In short, this is a practice area for politics (and building a good name for ourselves), for learning tank freeze tactics/counter tactics and most importantly for us to practice (training room and tactics).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭ZZR1100


    Considering the above and the fact we are using Africa as a training ground. i had a look around to see where we should go for long term.
    Europe is a bit of a lock with the big clans, east africa is yet to open. Specifically Saudi arabia.
    in the map below, Clan 42 hold 6 provinces that generate 14k gold per day.
    So i suggest we head east from where we are following the arrow. if we get knocked off the map, just enter the landing zones A and B. secure a few provinces and wait for east africa / saudi to open.
    saudi.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Aenaes


    We're a hell of a lot better than RDA too. -ITA- however are quite decent...

    There's also Italian Afrika Korps. Three Italian clans quite close to one another.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,436 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Aenaes wrote: »
    There's also Italian Afrika Korps. Three Italian clans quite close to one another.
    They confirmed their alliance last night (all clans got same color) along with Iron Chicken.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭LostCorkGuy


    I agree with fragit , going into the gulf is a good idea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    Could one of the mods update the first post with the new map linked here..

    Edit; Thanks Dan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Fionn Mc Coule


    I agree with fragit , going into the gulf is a good idea

    You both realise that battles in gulf are at 5pm ? would we have people online at that time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭LostCorkGuy


    You both realise that battles in gulf are at 5pm ? would we have people online at that time?


    Did not realise that at all :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭ZZR1100


    You both realise that battles in gulf are at 5pm ? would we have people online at that time?

    actually knew that and completly forgot about it while looking around the map :mad:
    but where we are now are supposed to 7pm and we usually fight at 8.30 +
    Is it just the landing battles that are on at 5pm ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    So, we find ourselves at the arse end of an axis.

    Do we join the Italians and Huns, or do we try and rely on some help from or French/Belgian freinds down south and join the alliance the Scorps are in?

    That will have to wait until tomorrow anyway.

    An attack is probably coming tonight, and we're going to have to drop our two northern lands and try and hold our central one. imo.

    Sort out an alliance fast then.

    It's just getting interesting, I don't want to go anywhere. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    You both realise that battles in gulf are at 5pm ? would we have people online at that time?


    No we wouldn't Fionn, good point.

    Fragit - if only 1 clan attacks a zone, the battles would be 5.30~. The latest they would be is around 6.30 which is still very early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    Eh, any chance of a few more chips down? :)

    Never mind, we are lucky!!

    Maintenance is being held on Clan Wars and Global Map from 14:00 UTC, 26 March. Clan Wars and Global Map will return at 14:00 UTC, 27 March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    501 - we have a strong relationship with them, and we will be honouring it.

    SIEG / HUHN - Initially wanted to take 501's provinces, and are in a NAP / Alliance with the -ITA- and RDA. RDA had threatened to attack us, so SIEG and Iron Chickens could join provinces.

    I would not agree to giving up 3 provinces, and leaving 501 exposed from the north. I agreed to give up the 2 northern most provinces: Northern Kayes & Southern Hodh Ech Chargui to allow them passage through to each other, but still protect 501.

    We agree'd that between us we could take out RHINO and FEAR to the west, let SIEG move north along our west side to join with HUHN, and then we could share SIEG's former southern provinces with 501.

    We are awaiting to hear back from HUHN - but the signs are good as SIEG think the plan is a good one, and keeps everyone happy. SIEG have respect for us as we've been true to our word with them, but they also realise we won't reneg on our agreement with 501 - this makes us trustworthy, and they respect that.

    This would also place the Italian clans in a position where they could not attack us due to their agreement with both SIEG & HUHN.

    Discussed the possible formation of a large alliance along the South Western region of Africa, and basically hold a huge section of the map between us all - but this is a discussion for another day.

    The agreement would work sort of like the picture below!
    5cc0c.jpg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭cro_bully


    Guys one diggresion. We made 1000 views :) i am proud :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    A big thanks to all involved in the negotiations. I can see a lot of very annoyed Hunn & ITA players who thought they were going to be able to put their alliance to great use in battle. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭ZZR1100


    will we not end up too close to the landing zones with this plan?
    on the plus side though, we would be in reach of that 1200 gpd province.
    where do the scorpions fit in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    A big thanks to all involved in the negotiations. I can see a lot of very annoyed Hunn & ITA players who thought they were going to be able to put their alliance to great use in battle. :)

    There was no way I was letting us be a push over and renege on our alliance with 501. We have to stand our ground and show other clans than not only are we trustworthy and honourable - but we mean business.

    We earned some respect today I think. Whether it backfires on us, only time will tell, but I'm happy :)

    There was many a disagreement / heated discussion over the last 2 days, particularly involving myself, Bruff & Fionn (who basically both swapped opinions!), but I believe I / we made the right decision.
    ZZR1100 wrote: »
    will we not end up too close to the landing zones with this plan?
    on the plus side though, we would be in reach of that 1200 gold province.
    where do the scorpions fit in?

    We have an agreement with Scorpions, and the option is still on thee table to join their alliance at some stage. But for the time being we'll concentrate West with SIEG / HUHN and 501.

    Sure moving south may leave us open to attack from the landing zones, but if we just leave 1 or 2 provinces there to get attacked on purpose it will actually give us something to do while we NAP with all our alliances :)

    But 1 step at a time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭zil


    So we seem to have been screwed over by ITA/RDA tonight. We were meant to have a NAP/Alliance with them no? What happened, did they just screw us over or did the NAP get dissolved / run out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭DesperateCry


    If i followed right, we are just moving out of their way. Maybe?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,436 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    If i followed right, we are just moving out of their way. Maybe?
    Nope, backstabbed by RDA and no agreement was ever finalized with the rest...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭G-spec


    Just had a bloody power cut so can't help out on the defense tonight. Good luck guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    Well, we knew they were coming. Tried a last minute try. Just annoying that we couldn't defend the distraction point where RDA were going to be told to hit.

    In a way this is a better position to be in, we only have to deal with one at a time now. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Nody wrote: »
    Nope, backstabbed by RDA and no agreement was ever finalized with the rest...


    RDA are the weakest of their alliance, we WILL be attacking them tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    I want this left in the hands of a cooler head like Bruffio please. I won't fight under commanders that would leave us exposed on two fronts by charging out so they can wear us down collectivity.

    Apologies Dub. I had just come off ts at the time listening to the same thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭mercenary2


    i think we should attack western mopti and ask 501 to attack just south let us knock em of the planet and not just the map back stabbers:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Here's our new plan:

    31904.jpg

    We want to go south. We want to take the 1200gld land, and 3 surrounding it.

    We still have our NAP with Scorpions, and maybe the option of joining the blue alliance.

    However, it appears their NAP with the Italians / Grey alliance will do nothing for us, so we have to look out for RDA attacking us.

    We will be attacking an ally of 501 tomorrow. We have decided that our agreement with 501 is really of not much benefit to us, and they really are not willing to do anything for us. So we are hoping they will break the alliance with us, and attack.

    If not, we will end up attacking them anyway.

    We will be hoping that 501 get attacked from both SIEG and RDA, which means they will not be able to help their friends, so we'll eventually knock them off the map.

    We should have plenty of battles to fight over the next few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Fionn Mc Coule


    Here's our new plan:

    31904.jpg

    We want to go south. We want to take the 1200gld land, and 3 surrounding it.

    We still have our NAP with Scorpions, and maybe the option of joining the blue alliance.

    However, it appears their NAP with the Italians / Grey alliance will do nothing for us, so we have to look out for RDA attacking us.

    We will be attacking an ally of 501 tomorrow. We have decided that our agreement with 501 is really of not much benefit to us, and they really are not willing to do anything for us. So we are hoping they will break the alliance with us, and attack.

    If not, we will end up attacking them anyway.

    We will be hoping that 501 get attacked from both SIEG and RDA, which means they will not be able to help their friends, so we'll eventually knock them off the map.

    We should have plenty of battles to fight over the next few days.

    I agree with everything except the part of us attacking them anyway, we only attack them if THEY break the alliance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    I agree with everything except the part of us attacking them anyway, we only attack them if THEY break the alliance.

    Do you know what? If were gona do this now. Let's just drop this land and land again. Give it to the new french guys or whoever. It would be more funny dropping in again underneath and beside Pirates, Sieg & Co. We don't want to make it too obvious the leprechauns are running for the pot of gold do we? :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭phil3995


    I agree with everything except the part of us attacking them anyway, we only attack them if THEY break the alliance.
    Lets not start being like the rest of them, we should honor our agreement until they break then at least other clan know we are trustworthy. RDA & SIEG will most likely knock them off anyway.

    Although I don't know the complete story I think joining the blue alliance would be a good idea, as I believe scorpions have stopped their whole alliance attacking us so hopefully they're a decent group who won't backstab us.

    Just my thoughts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Do you know what? If were gona do this now. Let's just drop this land and land again. Give it to the new french guys or whoever. It would be more funny dropping in again underneath and beside Pirates, Sieg & Co. We don't want to make it too obvious the leprechauns are running for the pot of gold do we? :)


    They may be on the cards - but we may as well have a little fun beforehand by attacking lots of land :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    Here's our new plan:

    31904.jpg
    You won't belive this Dub. :) Our old enemies IC have just applied for landing at the bottom in-between Sieg & Pirates. We might have a gold rush on our hands :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    You won't belive this Dub. :) Our old enemies IC have just applied for landing at the bottom in-between Sieg & Pirates. We might have a gold rush on our hands :D


    That means 2 things really.

    1. We get to kick their arse if they win it.

    2. They got booted out of North Africa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Hmm, looks as though HTPS and 501 are swapping some land below us.

    I'm serious guys, I think we should make sure this alliance is over well before we get completely screwed by them and the Hungarians.

    In fact, this looks as though they are making a move for HPTS to be in a position to attack us without getting themselves involved.

    Well have 501, HTPS & CPC surrounding us. Trying to stay nice is gonna get us hammered, and they will also be in our way. If it does indeed transpire that they are swapping land, our next move has to be taking Northern Ghana.


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