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Just 8% Of Americans Regard St.Patricks Day As An Important Holiday

  • 17-03-2012 11:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭


    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/holidays/march_2012/8_rate_st_patrick_s_day_as_an_important_holiday
    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of American Adults finds that just eight percent (8%) feel St. Patrick’s Day is one of the nation’s most important holidays. Fifty-seven percent (57%) consider the holiday one of the least important, while another 32% say it’s somewhere in between.

    Ah well sure "everyone loves the Irish".

    If I'm being honest, I've always found the hype of the reputation of the Irish abroad to be exaggurated. "Everyone wants to be Irish" and all that crap.

    I've never been to America, but I bet you most Americans don't care about Irish people or most people around the world, see them as strange foreigners and have no interest in Irish culture.

    I've been reading a lot online blogs and forums mainly political ones with all the Republican meatheads criticising President Obama for drinking Guinness today, calling him unamerican for it, not drinking Budweiser and celebrating a "foreign holiday". Blah.

    I hear a lot of people go on about how Americans "want to be Irish" and that if you went over there every American will be gushing over there to hear you're Irish accent and every American will be telling you of their great great great grandfather was Irish etc. I can't deny other peoples experiances in America, that could well be true, but my gut instinct is that it's exaggurated by far.

    I was in Australia recently, met very few Irish and met very few Australians who cared about Ireland. I never met one who told me about any relations, most of them considered themselves Australians only. They don't hate Irish people, they just don't care about them, they don't really give a stuff about the Brits either, despite being massively descended from them.

    So this poll result doesn't suprise me, I suspect most people couldn't care less about St.Patricks day, infact most people in England appear to be angry for not celebrating St Georges day (well its a crap holiday thats why).

    Is the "love for the Irish" exaggurated abroad or is it a real thing for you whenever you leave??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    That's still a very large amount of people..:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    They're not Irish anyway so what does it matter?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭IsMiseLisa


    Well, I'm Irish and I think St. Patrick's day - though great craic - is ridiculously stupid and entirely unimportant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Being born Irish is a good start in life.

    I think we're well received abroad because we're one of the only western European nations that hasn't a past of gun point colonialism and resource thieving.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    24 million that is a lot of people, off course they are not going to find it important as it is not an american holiday.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    From your article....
    More Americans than ever consider St. Patrick’s Day one of the nation’s least important holidays, but a sizable number still plan to wear green. One-in four will have an alcoholic drink to celebrate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    Why would they want a Budweiser-drinking president?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    Kiss my Irish ass! oo-ar!!!

    .. I think thats supposedly to be a outrageouz flirtatiouz. But if it fails.. 9 times out of 10 so when it fails.. then it means just that, actually!! haaaa :p the thought of making out with an arsehole may sound savage but it don't do it for me. But I do feel very Irish..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    I tend to agree with the 92%.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's likely that only 8% of people in Ireland regard St. Patrick's Day as an important holiday. The other 92% see it as just an excuse to get drunk.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    In the States, there is a large amount of people who identify as being Irish - not Irish American - but as Irish. They don't have any recent ties. They have never stepped a foot on Ireland. They don't know the name of their Irish ancestors or know what county they came from, but they are Irish nonetheless.

    So, St. Patrick's Day is about celebrating this tenuous connection to this fantastical homeland.

    Tangentially, it annoys the piss out of me to meet people who can claim to be Irish and reminisce about the tragedies of the Irish famine and how it shaped their ancestral journey, but I can't discuss how slavery had an impact on my family's unity and construction. Funny, because the largest migration wave of Irish took place before the end of slavery; yet, you would think that their Irish connection was only a generation or two ago and not four to five generations back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭TreesAreCrowd


    Gnobe wrote: »
    So this poll result doesn't suprise me

    I don't see why it would, you yourself have admitted you know nothing about the US.

    I can't say what the overall impression is, however I've been to the US a number of times and almost every single time I've talked to an American there they've made a fuss about me being Irish, telling me how they'd love to visit or how they have visited, what fraction of "Irish" they are etc.

    It's fairly mad and isn't in response to me initiating it either, I would generally prefer people to not know I'm from this shítehole but thankfully most non-Irish think I'm English anyway...purely due to the fact that I pronounce my words properly.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Patrick's day is meaningless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam



    It's fairly mad and isn't in response to me initiating it either, I would generally prefer people to not know I'm from this shítehole but thankfully most non-Irish think I'm English anyway...purely due to the fact that I pronounce my words properly.

    I would have thought it's the english who don't pronounce their words properly.
    why do you think Ireland is a ****hole?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,351 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    That's a change thought everyone was Irish in America for St Patrick's Day!lol!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭TreesAreCrowd


    hondasam wrote: »
    I would have thought it's the english who don't pronounce their words properly.

    Not the kind of English I'm mistaken for :)
    why do you think Ireland is a ****hole?

    Topic for another thread really but the list is pretty endless. The people here are probably number one on the list. Throw in the shíte weather, the fact that we're backward enough to have actively implemented blasphemy laws in the last 5 years and more and it points towards a shítty little country with hilarious delusions of grandeur.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    I'm amazed that almost 1 in 10 Americans consider it important at all. Thats quite high.

    How many of them could even tell you anything about St Georges day or St Andrews day or St Davids day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Gnobe wrote: »
    I've never been to America, but I bet you most Americans don't care about Irish people or most people around the world, see them as strange foreigners and have no interest in Irish culture.
    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭darlett


    Im sure a large part depends on a persons definition of 'Important holiday'.

    I bought shamrocks during the week (2 tubs for a euro ya cant beat that) I wore a green tee-shirt, followed the parade on the box, saw the pisa tower was lit up green, I know several of the myths and facts about the saint himself, watched the rugby, drank the booze, and im happier that I have the day off than if I was working that day. But I wouldnt say its an important holiday whatever that is. Its tshirt and hat for sale begorrah bejaysus format seems a typically commercial evolution from something more meaningful BUT less entertaining, like ALL holidays now I think of it. I like it but thats the limit for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Topic for another thread really but the list is pretty endless. The people here are probably number one on the list. Throw in the shíte weather, the fact that we're backward enough to have actively implemented blasphemy laws in the last 5 years and more and it points towards a shítty little country with hilarious delusions of grandeur.

    I know it has it's bad points but overall it's still our country, people are friendly,it might not be as relaxed and easy going these days but still I love it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    I wonder if you surveyed Irish people would they consider thanksgiving an important holiday. Of course not, this is a non story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 587 ✭✭✭fat__tony


    Im Irish and I couldn't give two ****s about the day.

    Its a nonsense of a holiday about an obscure 'saint' who lived 1500 years ago.

    Also it seems to give a licence to people to drink and act like utter twats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭darlett


    Ive been fortunate enough to have been to both America and Australia and experience working there, and Ive felt the love from plenty due to my being irish. Theres also a healthy portion of apathy there and more power to each and all of them. I think its hard for us who probably go back hundreds of years in the same area of the same country to relate to someone whose great grandparents came from a far away nugget on a map so I wouldnt be too quick to mock those who are enthusiastically trying to learn a little about or connect in some spurious way to that place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭TreesAreCrowd


    hondasam wrote: »
    I know it has it's bad points but overall it's still our country, people are friendly,it might not be as relaxed and easy going these days but still I love it.

    How do you define "our country"? In that we happened to be born here?

    I spent over 10 years working with customers here in a variety of roles and one thing remained the same - Irish people are cúnts. For the most part unintelligent, ignorant and only "good craic" when they've a few drinks in them. Worse still is that over the past few years as a day cannot go by without some random cúnt ignorantly moaning about "de gubberment, de bankoors and de developoors" on topics he has absolutely zero understanding of.

    There's cúnts everywhere but the sheer density of them here is just surreal. You leave Dublin and there's cúnts moaning at you about the above, plus "de jackeens", in their unintelligible regional dialect. You stay in Dublin and you're surrounded by the moaning cúnts or an underclass of absolute scum who are protected by social services or having their "culture" blindly respected .

    I'm not one to have "pride" or "shame" in where I happened to be born, but for the most part I'm embarrassed to be associated with such an internationally known pack of cúnts.

    This is a beautiful island and we're lucky to have had a ruling class here who built some absolutely stunning buildings in our cities before our shambolic "independence", it's the people that make the place unbearable and it's only getting worse, as the rise in support for cúnts like SF can attest to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,350 ✭✭✭Lust4Life


    I wasn't a part of that poll.
    My Wisconsin city is filled with people celebrating Paddy's day today! I even saw a man with a Green Mowhawk standing outside of a pub smoking!

    What's not to love about St Patrick's Day? I am on my way out to the pub to watch an Irish Rock band play. And yes, they really are straight from Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    How do you define "our country"? In that we happened to be born here?

    I spent over 10 years working with customers here in a variety of roles and one thing remained the same - Irish people are cúnts. For the most part unintelligent, ignorant and only "good craic" when they've a few drinks in them. Worse still is that over the past few years as a day cannot go by without some random cúnt ignorantly moaning about "de gubberment, de bankoors and de developoors" on topics he has absolutely zero understanding of.

    There's cúnts everywhere but the sheer density of them here is just surreal. You leave Dublin and there's cúnts moaning at you about the above, plus "de jackeens", in their unintelligible regional dialect. You stay in Dublin and you're surrounded by the moaning cúnts or an underclass of absolute scum who are protected by social services or having their "culture" blindly respected .

    I'm not one to have "pride" or "shame" in where I happened to be born, but for the most part I'm embarrassed to be associated with such an internationally known pack of cúnts.

    This is a beautiful island and we're lucky to have had a ruling class here who built some absolutely stunning buildings in our cities before our shambolic "independence", it's the people that make the place unbearable and it's only getting worse, as the rise in support for cúnts like SF can attest to.

    Sometimes my sarcasm meter is off...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    one thing remained the same - Irish people are cúnts. For the most part unintelligent, ignorant and only "good craic" when they've a few drinks in them.

    This might be a description of you and people you know but it's not what the majority of Irish people are like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭TreesAreCrowd


    Sometimes my sarcasm meter is off...?
    No sarcasm there buddy. Might be seen to be a bit hypocritical of me to be moaning about moany cúnts but I genuinely spend my days trying to discuss the cheeriest things I can find these days in the hopes of preventing a moan rant from some cúnt...not very successful though, I must say, they want their rant and they're going to get it one way or another. Just like the ignorant cúnts here who bring up the government, bankers and developers in every single thread posted. Might not have to do with the topic at hand, of course, but they're damn well going to rant about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭cena


    It was on fox news that Americans spend 4.5 billion dollars on st patricks day


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    So 8% of people who were HOME on St Patricks Day think it's an important holiday. That's because around the ones who think it's awesome are out getting drunk!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭TreesAreCrowd


    hondasam wrote: »
    This might be a description of you and people you know but it's not what the majority of Irish people are like.
    In my variety of roles, professional, academic or otherwise, I've met and interacted with more people here than anybody else I've ever met. The majority of people, regardless of where on the island they're from, are absolute cúnts. Thankfully I'm now in a situation whereby I spend my day with very intelligent, reasonable people but every time I step out of that bubble I'm forced to deal with the average Irish cúnt that makes up the majority of the population in this country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭TreesAreCrowd


    So 8% of people who were HOME on St Patricks Day think it's an important holiday. That's because around the ones who think it's awesome are out getting drunk!
    Wow. Just wow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    In my variety of roles, professional, academic or otherwise, I've met and interacted with more people here than anybody else I've ever met. The majority of people, regardless of where on the island they're from, are absolute cúnts. Thankfully I'm now in a situation whereby I spend my day with very intelligent, reasonable people but every time I step out of that bubble I'm forced to deal with the average Irish cúnt that makes up the majority of the population in this country.
    Wow. Just wow.

    That suits your own post better, you come across as quite pompous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Cinco de Mayo is where it's at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,971 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    15% think that Sydney is in Europe so that sorta puts it in context


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    In my variety of roles, professional, academic or otherwise, I've met and interacted with more people here than anybody else I've ever met. The majority of people, regardless of where on the island they're from, are absolute cúnts. Thankfully I'm now in a situation whereby I spend my day with very intelligent, reasonable people but every time I step out of that bubble I'm forced to deal with the average Irish cúnt that makes up the majority of the population in this country.

    Fair enough you have made your mind up and it's not for changing. I don't agree that we are all as bad as you think.
    I take it you do not deal with Irish people now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭jay-me


    No matter what the majority of rednecks etc think it is no small feat that "The most powerful man in the world" is drinking Guinness and celebrating our "Proud to be Irish" day.. Or that many landmarks around the world have turned green as a sign of support!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    herp derp - Ireland sucks

    I'm glad that someone who holds such idiotic views as you doesn't identify as Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Wow. Just wow.


    Troll, banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭up for anything


    How do you define "our country"? In that we happened to be born here?

    I spent over 10 years working with customers here in a variety of roles and one thing remained the same - Irish people are cúnts. For the most part unintelligent, ignorant and only "good craic" when they've a few drinks in them. Worse still is that over the past few years as a day cannot go by without some random cúnt ignorantly moaning about "de gubberment, de bankoors and de developoors" on topics he has absolutely zero understanding of.

    There's cúnts everywhere but the sheer density of them here is just surreal. You leave Dublin and there's cúnts moaning at you about the above, plus "de jackeens", in their unintelligible regional dialect. You stay in Dublin and you're surrounded by the moaning cúnts or an underclass of absolute scum who are protected by social services or having their "culture" blindly respected .

    I'm not one to have "pride" or "shame" in where I happened to be born, but for the most part I'm embarrassed to be associated with such an internationally known pack of cúnts.

    This is a beautiful island and we're lucky to have had a ruling class here who built some absolutely stunning buildings in our cities before our shambolic "independence", it's the people that make the place unbearable and it's only getting worse, as the rise in support for cúnts like SF can attest to.

    Is it yourself that's in it, Bob?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    fat__tony wrote: »
    Im Irish and I couldn't give two ****s about the day..

    Good for you.
    fat__tony wrote: »
    Its a nonsense of a holiday about an obscure 'saint' who lived 1500 years ago...

    Similar to every other "holy day" then so.
    fat__tony wrote: »
    Also it seems to give a licence to people to drink and act like utter twats.

    There seem to be a few here who do the exact same without the excuse of either celebrating the day or drinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭darlett


    jay-me wrote: »
    No matter what the majority of rednecks etc think it is no small feat that "The most powerful man in the world" is drinking Guinness and celebrating our "Proud to be Irish" day.. Or that many landmarks around the world have turned green as a sign of support!

    Heres someone not been a moaning cnut, and the majority of people i know would share that outlook. But let me guess such blind optimism is probably a secondary symptom of cnutdom.

    You know when you've been trolled. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Wow. Just wow.

    You're not coming across all that cheery to tell the truth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 420 ✭✭Paulie Gualtieri


    I think "important holiday" is the key phrase .

    I like paddys day as much as the next person, but do I think its important , not really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    I'd say it would be important for places like Chicago, Boston, New York. But not as important in Dixie.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Americans in general are just plain thick.

    Show them a map of the world and they wouldnt have a clue where Ireland is on it.

    None of them knew David Cameron or Enda Kenny or could say that they are British and Irish Prime Ministers,when they were shown pictures of both leaders,by a news reporter on the streets of Washington recently.

    Americans in general,are rather clueless with regards the rest of the world.



    So I wouldnt be bothered with what they think about Paddies Day as a holiday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    I'm Irish/Sparticus/Brian...and so is my wife...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Troll, banned.



    Thank fúck for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Americans in general are just plain thick.

    Show them a map of the world and they wouldnt have a clue where Ireland is on it.

    None of them knew David Cameron or Enda Kenny or could say that they are British and Irish Prime Ministers,when they were shown pictures of both leaders,by a news reporter on the streets of Washington recently.

    Americans in general,are rather clueless with regards the rest of the world.



    So I wouldnt be bothered with what they think about Paddies Day as a holiday

    Can you name the governor of Washington, Illinois, South Dakota, and Missouri? That's only a few of the 50 states that we have. I wonder how Brazilians or Indonesians would fare when asked who Cameron or Kenny are. Considering that the US is the third largest country in terms of size and population, I don't find it surprising to know that many Americans don't know the intimate details of a tiny little island with a few million people. I grew up in Illinois with a population of 12 million people and our state - alone - is nearly twice the size of Ireland. Can you name the mayors of Cairo, Champaign, Collinsville, or Aurora?

    This isn't about thickness. This is about priority. The United Kingdom is one of our greatest allies, and I can bet that if most Americans were asked who the Queen of England was, they would know. They could also relay information about popular artists like Adele or The Beatles or the Rolling Stones; there is a huge following of fans for Downton Abby and Are You Being Served? so there is a significant cultural exchange going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Gnobe
    Registered User

    Join Date: Sep 2010
    Location: omagh


    /lol

    Yes, paddy's day brings them out alright. Hey gnobe enlighten us as to why a majority of US presidents felt it neccessary to visit Ireland.


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