STUDENTS IN GLENCARRAIG ESTATE SLIGO.

Ham Sambo

What in the name of God is happening in Glencarraig housing estate in Ballinode???? last Tuesday night there was up to 200 students having a drinks and drugs party in one house, God help the eldery residents of that estate, this has to stop. :mad: :mad:

cassi

Not to nit pick or anything, but how do you know there were 200 and they were doing drugs???

Bustler

The Brewery have a promotion thing on Tuesday nights where students are encouraged to enter a draw to be nominated as the house party that night. For the pleasure of 'winning' the draw, the people who host the house party win a bottle of vodka and anybody from the pub comes back to their house. I'm a student, I haven't been to this event but I've heard my classmates talk about it in college. I think it's incredibly irresponsible of the brewery to promote and encourage this, I'm sure they realise the outcome of their actions and I doubt they would nominate an one of the designated student estates such as Gateway or Clarion as security is too heavy there to allow this to happen. But hey, the Brewery are making a lot of money on what is Traditionally a quiet night, so let's throw any morals we have out the window, shall we?

Ham Sambo

cassi wrote: »

Not to nit pick or anything, but how do you know there were 200 and they were doing drugs???

Hi ya Cassie, It's was all over the media this morning, full-time residents living in that estate were imprisioned in their own houses because of the antics of these people, pictures on Ocean FM web site showed at least 200 people at that house. I am all for enjoying myself but these Sligo IT students were taking the p*ss altogether. :mad:

newballsplease

Ham Sambo wrote: »

cassi wrote: »

Not to nit pick or anything, but how do you know there were 200 and they were doing drugs???

Hi ya Cassie, It's was all over the media this morning, full-time residents living in that estate were imprisioned in their own houses because of the antics of these people, pictures on Ocean FM web site showed at least 200 people at that house. I am all for enjoying myself but these Sligo IT students were taking the p*ss altogether. :mad:

Was drugs mentioned???? How do you know they were taking drugs??? Or just having a guess

Bustler

Oh, just to make it clear, I doubt all of these people were IT Sligo students. Quite a few people that I work with who don't attend the IT have been to the Brewery for the last few Tuesdays. And as for drugs, I didn't hear anything about illegal drugs. I assume alcohol and tobacco may have been consumed.

promethius

hard to believe the stupidity of the bar and anyone who'd stick their house down for that! bye bye deposit and roof over ones head

AllGunsBlazing

Bustler wrote: »

Oh, just to make it clear, I doubt all of these people were IT Sligo students. Quite a few people that I work with who don't attend the IT have been to the Brewery for the last few Tuesdays. And as for drugs, I didn't hear anything about illegal drugs. I assume alcohol and tobacco may have been consumed.

I'd be very suprised if the party didn't mostly consist of students or part of their social circle at least.

There is no doubt that the estate has fallen into quite a bit of disorder over the past few years thanks to the number of students in Glencarraig and the proximity of a bar to it. As someone who goes in and out of this estate on numerous occasions during the course of a working week I have seen it's decline with my own two eyes over the last ten years.

Certainly not the kind of place you would want to live in if you were trying to raise a family.

Bustler

I agree AllGuns, however I felt it was pertinent to raise the notion that some of the people involved may not have been students. I feel very sorry for any of the families that live in a student estate. I choose not to rent the IT/Ballinode side of town as I don't think it can be a suitable family environment, I do empathise with those who have to live there.

However, I feel the main point is that the Brewery is actively promoting anti-social behaviour.

duckysauce

cassi wrote: »

Not to nit pick or anything, but how do you know there were 200 and they were doing drugs???

well even if there were 30 students and not one of them were doing drugs , I would be amazed.

UrbanSea

duckysauce wrote: »

well even if there were 30 students and not one of them were doing drugs , I would be amazed.

I wouldn't be. Not every student does drugs believe it or not, and there are even big groups of them who don't

duckysauce

UrbanSea wrote: »

I wouldn't be. Not every student does drugs believe it or not, and there are even big groups of them who don't

thats great to hear, things have changed alot to when I was a student so.

Ham Sambo

newballsplease wrote: »

Was drugs mentioned???? How do you know they were taking drugs??? Or just having a guess

Yes. drugs were mentioned, but you are missing the point altogether, over 200 people caused complete havoc in a residential area where some of the full time residents had to lock themselves in ut of pure fear. wheres the so called students union when it's needed???

Ham Sambo

Bustler wrote: »

I agree AllGuns, however I felt it was pertinent to raise the notion that some of the people involved may not have been students. I feel very sorry for any of the families that live in a student estate. I choose not to rent the IT/Ballinode side of town as I don't think it can be a suitable family environment, I do empathise with those who have to live there.

However, I feel the main point is that the Brewery is actively promoting anti-social behaviour.

Bustler I don't expect you to say anything else to be honest, the fact still remains that the estate in question has now become a no-go area for decent law abiding Sligo people, I would go as far as saying the students should be evicted by their landlords, God only knows what the inside of the houses are like.

Ham Sambo

UrbanSea wrote: »

I wouldn't be. Not every student does drugs believe it or not, and there are even big groups of them who don't

Really?? so tell me UrbanSea what influences were those two IT students under when they were caught coming down the stairs of that house with the 'bath' in their arms??? Some how I don't think it was spring water and amber leaf, do you??? :rolleyes:

UrbanSea

Ham Sambo wrote: »

Really?? so tell me UrbanSea what influences were those two IT students under when they were caught coming down the stairs of that house with the 'bath' in their arms??? Some how I don't think it was spring water and amber leaf, do you??? :rolleyes:

They might have had a few jars on them I'd imagine. Don't think many students actually drink spring water on a night out. :rolleyes:

shanec1928

Ham Sambo wrote: »

Hi ya Cassie, It's was all over the media this morning, full-time residents living in that estate were imprisioned in their own houses because of the antics of these people, pictures on Ocean FM web site showed at least 200 people at that house. I am all for enjoying myself but these Sligo IT students were taking the p*ss altogether. :mad:

people imprisoned in there homes:rolleyes:can you make it any more dramatic.. next you will be claiming that they held the housing estate at gun point. a party was had it got out of control.
so where are the pictures that your raving on about on ocean fm
there are the two articles with no pictures
http://oceanfm.ie/article/IT-Sligo-SU-send-clean-up-crew-following-house-party/
http://oceanfm.ie/article/Anti-social-behaviour-in-Sligo-estate-/

Son Of A Vidic

Ham Sambo wrote: »

Really?? so tell me UrbanSea what influences were those two IT students under when they were caught coming down the stairs of that house with the 'bath' in their arms??? Some how I don't think it was spring water and amber leaf, do you??? :rolleyes:

Some mates in Uni couldn't leave anything alone, they stole doors from mates houses, traffic signs, garden ornaments and yes even two bath tubs. They didn't do drugs, but yes they drank excessively. People don't need to take drugs to do incredibly stupid things.

Radharc na Sleibhte

Did the gardai turn up on the night?

AllGunsBlazing

The Gardai should not have to wait for trouble to erupt before they decide to show their faces around places like Glencarraig. It is after all an area with a high concentration of young people with a pub in close proximity. It doesn't take a sherlock holmes to figure that it might on occasion get a bit rowdy there once the sun goes down.

I also doubt that it would be a huge drain on their resources for a patrol car to swing through the estate on a nightly basis just to make sure the peace is being kept. Mind you, I could start a whole new thread on our local law enforcement and their visibility in the community.:rolleyes:

Ham Sambo

forza rovers wrote: »

people imprisoned in there homes:rolleyes:can you make it any more dramatic.. next you will be claiming that they held the housing estate at gun point. a party was had it got out of control.
so where are the pictures that your raving on about on ocean fm
there are the two articles with no pictures
http://oceanfm.ie/article/IT-Sligo-SU-send-clean-up-crew-following-house-party/
http://oceanfm.ie/article/Anti-social-behaviour-in-Sligo-estate-/

May I suggest that you contact Ocean FM and ask them to re-post the pictures that were sent into them, and yes, many of the older residents locked themselves into their homes out of fear, and were afraid to confront these thugs, to be honest I knew it was too good to last, RAG week was too good to be through. I am glad forza that you find this funny, I am sure the residents in Ballinode / Glencarraig don't.

UrbanSea

I heard that the guards went down and sat doing nothing

red sean

Can't have been students involved. They do'nt have the money due to college fees etc.

slapbangwallop

UrbanSea wrote: »

I wouldn't be. Not every student does drugs believe it or not, and there are even big groups of them who don't

Yes of course not every student does drugs, however, if in a group of 30 at a party going on past midnight I would say the law of averages would suggest there was some drug taking.

Not that I give a **** to be honest and it could open up the whole debate about which illegal drugs actually do less harm to you than say drink or fags but lets not pretend that it was a mothers meeting.

AgileMyth

Great night in fairness!

travelledpengy

Ham Sambo wrote: »

Really?? so tell me UrbanSea what influences were those two IT students under when they were caught coming down the stairs of that house with the 'bath' in their arms??? Some how I don't think it was spring water and amber leaf, do you??? :rolleyes:

I've seen stone-sober people do a lot more stupid things in college.

frag420

travelledpengy wrote: »

I've seen stoned-sober people do a lot more stupid things in college.

FYP:cool:

Bebop25

red sean wrote: »

Can't have been students involved. They do'nt have the money due to college fees etc.

I hope that is sarcasm???

Bebop25

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

The Gardai should not have to wait for trouble to erupt before they decide to show their faces around places like Glencarraig. It is after all an area with a high concentration of young people with a pub in close proximity. It doesn't take a sherlock holmes to figure that it might on occasion get a bit rowdy there once the sun goes down.

I also doubt that it would be a huge drain on their resources for a patrol car to swing through the estate on a nightly basis just to make sure the peace is being kept. Mind you, I could start a whole new thread on our local law enforcement and their visibility in the community.:rolleyes:

I have family living in the estate and to be fair the Gardai do send a patrol car down numerous times in the day and night, but when you have 200+ drunk sudents gathering it is riot Gardai needed not a patrol car. From what I have seen in the estate and surrounding area students just dont fear the law its all a big game.

AllGunsBlazing

I was in Glencarraig on wednesday and the place is in an absolute kip state. Wheely bins have been left overturned in the street with the contents strewn everywhere.


That estate was one of the better kept areas of the town before the college began to expand. It now resembles a dumping ground.

red sean

Bebop25 wrote: »

I hope that is sarcasm???

Yep! Sarcasm of a taxpayer and parent of a student.(not in Sligo IT)

Truley

What is it about Sligo IT students and the level of muppetry that seems to come with them, they are notorious for it even around the country. I lived on Campus in Dublin (UCD) and never encountered anything even close to what I've witnessed or experienced on student res in Sligo.

I have to pass an IT res every day going to work and not a single day goes by that I haven't experienced some sort of smart remark shouted at me, apples or beer cans thrown at me (and other pedestrians/passing cars,) people being sprayed with super soakers etc On one occasion I witness students shouting racist remarks at a couple of black girls walking under their balcony. Another time I saw some shouting at a parent with their child, stuff like 'watch out for paedophiles' All this in broad daylight without a slightest hint of embarrassment for what they're doing.

And it's not just one or two bad eggs you really get the impression that it's the consensus for how students behave there. Like one or two students will throw the apple but there will be about a dozen others witnessing it and laughing along. It really p*sses me off that these types are supposed to be the country's best and brightest, most privileged? I'm from Cranmore, never experienced anything like it there.


/rant

Razleavy

Not a single day goes by with something? I find that hard to believe. I'm not sure what part of Cranmore you used to live in, but some parts must be bad as there are numerous CCTV cameras in the area, not to mention what I have heard from people living there!

It's also definitely just a few bad eggs, 200-300 people at a house party? That's only 4-5% of the students present at the IT. Some of them are complete and utter tossers, but the vast majority are not.

Has anybody seen the videos from Galway's unofficial rag week? I have never seen the like of it here in Sligo.

AllGunsBlazing

The centre of Cranmore estate was gutted and replaced with an open plan a few years ago. It's not trouble free (no housing estate is) but it's a damn site quieter than it once was.

At least there was a recognition from the local authorities that Cranmore needed to be dealt with - but a blind eye is obviously being turned when it comes to the housing estates that serve the IT. I'd imagine this has a lot to do with the money that comes with the influx of a student population.

If anyone thinks there is exaggeration going on here then by all means take a quick walk through the glencarraig estate and see for yourself. The place is a now a sh*t hole. Easily the worst in town.

Ham Sambo

Razleavy wrote: »

Not a single day goes by with something? I find that hard to believe. I'm not sure what part of Cranmore you used to live in, but some parts must be bad as there are numerous CCTV cameras in the area, not to mention what I have heard from people living there!

It's also definitely just a few bad eggs, 200-300 people at a house party? That's only 4-5% of the students present at the IT. Some of them are complete and utter tossers, but the vast majority are not.

Has anybody seen the videos from Galway's unofficial rag week? I have never seen the like of it here in Sligo.

In fairness Razleavy the residents in Glencarraig are living in Sligo and not in Galway, While 200/300 students at a house party may seem a small amount in your eyes I think the Glencarraig residents might disagree with you some what. I am sorry, It's not good enough and it has to stop. I wonder if these students will come back and clean up the vomit, broken bottles and glasses, empty cans, and wash down the urine that they have left there. they will like fu*k! One wonders if the landlords who rent these houses are registered with the PRTB???

Bebop25

I have family living in Glencarraig who have lived there about 14 years and the IT Sligo students arent the worst of them, yes they party for RAG week, there is a pub near by, what used to be an estate full of families has changed to be mostly students and the residents have no problem with that or with students having a good time. The main issue is the fact a good time has change into Breaking windows (which was done to a residents house ) and also trying to kick down a door on the way home. Have a small party by all means but 200+ is antisocial behaviour. Also there is over 60 landlords or so who own houses in the estate I personally think they need to take more responsibility for there tenants ok they cant police it every night but windows hanging off, bins not empty you get the feeling that as long as the rent is in a bank account every month some of them dont come near the place. Alot has to change but as someone with family around I dont think this problem is just Students.

Ham Sambo

Bebop25 wrote: »

I have family living in Glencarraig who have lived there about 14 years and the IT Sligo students arent the worst of them, yes they party for RAG week, there is a pub near by, what used to be an estate full of families has changed to be mostly students and the residents have no problem with that or with students having a good time. The main issue is the fact a good time has change into Breaking windows (which was done to a residents house ) and also trying to kick down a door on the way home. Have a small party by all means but 200+ is antisocial behaviour. Also there is over 60 landlords or so who own houses in the estate I personally think they need to take more responsibility for there tenants ok they cant police it every night but windows hanging off, bins not empty you get the feeling that as long as the rent is in a bank account every month some of them dont come near the place. Alot has to change but as someone with family around I dont think this problem is just Students.

You start off your post by saying that the local IT yobbos are not the worst of them, then you say that the windows are hanging off some of the houses not to mention windows and doors kicked in in private residences in Glencarraig etc, Tell me why do you think most of the families have moved out of this estate over the years? I'll tell you why... over the years landlords have rented houses to groups of spotty teenagers who had left home for the first time who hadn't got a clue how to clean their own ars*s never mind how to look after themselves. They should be all rounded up and sent back to their own counties, enough is enough. :mad:

UrbanSea

Ham Sambo wrote: »

You start off your post by saying that the local IT yobbos are not the worst of them, then you say that the windows are hanging off some of the houses not to mention windows and doors kicked in in private residences in Glencarraig etc, Tell me why do you think most of the families have moved out of this estate over the years? I'll tell you why... over the years landlords have rented houses to groups of spotty teenagers who had left home for the first time who hadn't got a clue how to clean their own ars*s never mind how to look after themselves. They should be all rounded up and sent back to their own counties, enough is enough. :mad:

Yes, this is the best solution. Keep students to their own counties.

I'll leave college in Dublin based on this great advice and move to the IT here

jd.

Ham Sambo wrote: »

What in the name of God is happening in Glencarraig housing estate in Ballinode???? last Tuesday night there was up to 200 students having a drinks and DRUGS PARTY in one house, God help the eldery residents of that estate, this has to stop. :mad: :mad:

drink and DRUGS party....how do you know that there was drugs involved in anything... how do you know that there were all IT Sligo students.... you are painting all students in the IT with the same brush... which is highly unfair.... don't you think.... the stupidity and ignorance of a small few should not reflect on the many students in the college that work hard and do their best in college.... how many involved were not students at all....

jd.

Truley wrote: »

What is it about Sligo IT students and the level of muppetry that seems to come with them, they are notorious for it even around the country. I lived on Campus in Dublin (UCD) and never encountered anything even close to what I've witnessed or experienced on student res in Sligo.

I have to pass an IT res every day going to work and not a single day goes by that I haven't experienced some sort of smart remark shouted at me, apples or beer cans thrown at me (and other pedestrians/passing cars,) people being sprayed with super soakers etc On one occasion I witness students shouting racist remarks at a couple of black girls walking under their balcony. Another time I saw some shouting at a parent with their child, stuff like 'watch out for paedophiles' All this in broad daylight without a slightest hint of embarrassment for what they're doing.

And it's not just one or two bad eggs you really get the impression that it's the consensus for how students behave there. Like one or two students will throw the apple but there will be about a dozen others witnessing it and laughing along. It really p*sses me off that these types are supposed to be the country's best and brightest, most privileged? I'm from Cranmore, never experienced anything like it there.


/rant

how many students in UCD and how spread out over the biggest city in ireland is it... coarse they are problems like this in UCD but because the IT is so confined and is a town it looks bad... So you think UCD have no anti Social behaviours at all is it

Bebop25

Ham Sambo wrote: »

You start off your post by saying that the local IT yobbos are not the worst of them, then you say that the windows are hanging off some of the houses not to mention windows and doors kicked in in private residences in Glencarraig etc, Tell me why do you think most of the families have moved out of this estate over the years? I'll tell you why... over the years landlords have rented houses to groups of spotty teenagers who had left home for the first time who hadn't got a clue how to clean their own ars*s never mind how to look after themselves. They should be all rounded up and sent back to their own counties, enough is enough. :mad:

My point is there was alot of people down that were NOT IT Sligo I just think its unfair to say its all students, the estate has got so run down because landlords are not maintaing houses or checking them. Students have always moved away for college, they have always had parties but from one year to the next the houses are not looked after I personally have been in several and if the landlord wont maintain it why do you expect students to ??>??

Ham Sambo

UrbanSea wrote: »

Yes, this is the best solution. Keep students to their own counties.

I'll leave college in Dublin based on this great advice and move to the IT here

You are missing the point I am making, If these idiots are hell bent on causing complete and utter distruction in Sligo then they should be ran back to their own town,no more than if you were doing the same in Dublin then yes, you should be ran back down the M50, why should law-biding residents have to put up with that crap?

Ham Sambo

Bebop25 wrote: »

My point is there was alot of people down that were NOT IT Sligo I just think its unfair to say its all students, the estate has got so run down because landlords are not maintaing houses or checking them. Students have always moved away for college, they have always had parties but from one year to the next the houses are not looked after I personally have been in several and if the landlord wont maintain it why do you expect students to ??>??

My understanding was that there was an open invitation to a house party that night, what did the tennants of that house expect, 200 gormless idiots would not have been in Glencarraig at a house party unless they were aware of the party in the first place.

Bebop25

Ham Sambo wrote: »

My understanding was that there was an open invitation to a house party that night, what did the tennants of that house expect, 200 gormless idiots would not have been in Glencarraig at a house party unless they were aware of the party in the first place.

It started off as a comp in the local pub that the Dj would announce what house the party was in and see who could throw the best one its been going on weeks but the last few have got out of control because alot of non students have heard about it and come down . Do you honestly think a few IT students came up with this themselves ?

red sean

Bebop25 wrote: »

It started off as a comp in the local pub that the Dj would announce what house the party was in and see who could throw the best one its been going on weeks but the last few have got out of control because alot of non students have heard about it and come down . Do you honestly think a few IT students came up with this themselves ?

Are you implying they're not smart enough?

Scarlet42

"The Head of IT Sligo, Professor Terri Scott has warned students to behave or face disciplinary action after a second Tuesday night house party results in nine arrests" - Sligo Weekender

thats not a woman you want to cross!

dingding

I think the whole idea is based on Project X.

http://www.google.com/movies?hl=en&near=Sligo&dq=project+x&sort=1&mid=4d7f70ae2936b865&sa=X&ei=ukJyT5eXF4Ot8QO_rJVi&sqi=2&ved=0CCUQwAMoBA

PickledLime

Scarlet42 wrote: »

"The Head of IT Sligo, Professor Terri Scott has warned students to behave or face disciplinary action after a second Tuesday night house party results in nine arrests" - Sligo Weekender

thats not a woman you want to cross!

Meh, she's full of hot air that one, not the first time she's bandied that idle threat about. General consensus is that the IT has gone downhill since she showed up too.

I know someone who owned a house in Glencarrig circa 2000. They sold up then because from what they could tell it was far too much trouble. This is when the student population of the estate was much smaller than the residential one.

Speaking as a graduate of IT Sligo, the majority of students are fine, but even 2% of a 6,000+ population causing trouble can equal a heck of a lot of trouble. And that's trouble that no resident of any estate should have to endure.

sligono1

this unruley behaviour hasnt started today or yesterday its going on a few years now i have saw some of the distruction first hand,

in my oppinion there are alot of factors to blame from the students the IT and the landlords.

not all landlords are to blame some are fighting a loosing battle small few perhaps but they try to keep their tennents right, but i have worked on some of these properties fixing the needless damage,for example one property students had moved out so a few nights later the was kicked down and it was party central.
but the majority of landlords dont care they want the rent and nothing else.

not all students are at fault i know students living in there and they keep thing right but it takes a small few to ruin things.


but at the end of day it all boils down to one thing is respect.
and that is not been shown in the way the estate is kept,the behaviour,and treatment to familys living there,it all boils down to lack of respect.

i think the IT and the Students union have to get up of their backsides and start taking action.perhaps some harsh actions have to be taken.
also the bad vibes surrounding these issues are turning parents off send their kids to sligo IT

Buford T Justice

Razleavy wrote: »

Not a single day goes by with something? I find that hard to believe. I'm not sure what part of Cranmore you used to live in, but some parts must be bad as there are numerous CCTV cameras in the area, not to mention what I have heard from people living there!

I live in Cranmore, and have no idea of what you're talking about. I've also got two small girls growing up here. Scum central it certainly isn't and I for one would rather live here than in Glencarrig during the college term.

I say that having spent over 6 weeks working in a student house in Glencarrig refitting it after flood damage. The house was bigger, more space, bigger front and back gardens, peaceful with little to no traffic, and lovely place to be in the nice weather. Truly a nice little place to be. Add students to the mix, and forget about it. Not for all the tea in china. I know, because I've been down there doing repairs while the students are in and I've seen what its like.

Razleavy

Buford T Justice wrote: »

I live in Cranmore, and have no idea of what you're talking about. I've also got two small girls growing up here. Scum central it certainly isn't and I for one would rather live here than in Glencarrig during the college term.

I say that having spent over 6 weeks working in a student house in Glencarrig refitting it after flood damage. The house was bigger, more space, bigger front and back gardens, peaceful with little to no traffic, and lovely place to be in the nice weather. Truly a nice little place to be. Add students to the mix, and forget about it. Not for all the tea in china. I know, because I've been down there doing repairs while the students are in and I've seen what its like.

I wouldn't call it scum central, but it certainly has had problems and still has.CCTV cameras (due to trouble), 3 murders and muggins, etc. I'm sure other parts of it are rougher than others and sadly it's only a few that ruin it for everyone It's a pity we just can't get rid of the troublemakers!