Is Boards.ie subversive to the state?

DrumSteve · 13-03-2012 5:05pm #1

So says Senator Mark McSharry today in the Senate:

Senator Mark McSharry wrote:

I do have a question I'm calling for a debate in the context of that eh I'm making a point. It's the same in eh we all want free speech when people are tweeting or texting or online where we have Boards.ie and Politics.ie, for me frankly that doesn't amount to free speech what it amounts to is leaglised subversion of the state. I think it's fundamentally wrong. What we need is somebody some media that reports that facts because as we often praise eh the people of this country for being amongst the most educated in the world and my god they're prepared to make their own decision based on the facts if presented not as presented by the editorial staff within RTE or whatever news media and finally can I say and this is a very worrying issue and I intend to raise it privately with the leader and all should be aware there's a very major news agency in this country in charge of quite a few regional newspapers who have instructed that there staff not to print any news releases from members of Seanad Eireann and I think that is something we need to address.

Senator Marc McSharry in the Seanad during the Order of Business

Lot of this ****e seems to be coming out recently, seems like the boys aren't a fan of boards.

I don't believe sites such as this (and a political website based in ireland when I viewed the link) are subversive, indeed I think they are great because they allow people to put their opinions across without any of the other ****e that goes with it.

minidazzler · 13-03-2012 5:07pm

Holding politicians accountable for their actions is subversion. Everyone knows that.

The King of Moo · 13-03-2012 5:09pm

No, idiot politicians are much more subversive, making the government look bad from inside.

BRING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT!!

Penn · 13-03-2012 5:10pm

People giving their opinions in a manner the State can't control =/= Subversive to the State

Sindri · 13-03-2012 5:11pm

Legalised subversion?

Of the state?

Is this man a ****wit or something?

wendell borton · 13-03-2012 5:11pm

I post therefore I am a subversive?

Logical Fallacy · 13-03-2012 5:11pm

Another well placed Sindo politician with connections to the printed media giving out about "new media".

I, for one, am ****ing shocked.

Genuine.

Sunnyisland · 13-03-2012 5:11pm

I love reading boards & poltics .ie, Much better than reading the bias and utter crap newspapers on sale at the moment,The politicians are getting nervey as they can see from sites like this that the people have enough and want change.

DrumSteve · 13-03-2012 5:12pm

Penn wrote: »

People giving their opinions in a manner the State can't control =/= Subversive to the State

Ah he did it under Senate priviledge too the cheeky fooker

wes · 13-03-2012 5:12pm

So we are not allowed to have opinions now? Pretty messed up imho.

13-03-2012 5:12pm

i think you're fundamentally wrong, mr mcsharry. how do you like them apples!

GreenWolfe · 13-03-2012 5:13pm

I don't know what to think, really. So, Middle-Eastern countries were bad for trying to censor/control the internet and websites during the Arab Spring, but in the West censorship/control of the web is an appealing thing to politicans here. Because that'll remove the pesky problem of debates or protests or whatever.

Seachmall · 13-03-2012 5:14pm

bluewolf wrote: »

i think you're fundamentally wrong, mr mcsharry. how do you like them apples!

TREASON!!!!

Chuck Stone · 13-03-2012 5:14pm

What a load of ill thought out bollocks.

Cianos · 13-03-2012 5:15pm

Politicians ≠ the state, no matter how much they'd like to think they do.

Gee Bag · 13-03-2012 5:16pm

Yep, boards.ie was responsible for subverting our republic by making such an utter balls of our boom economy that we had to have the troika come and tell us how to run our country............

.....................under a Fianna Fail government that never would have happened.

Sindri · 13-03-2012 5:18pm

To those slow users of Boards what this chap is basically saying is that criticism of the government should be illegal.

mike65 · 13-03-2012 5:20pm

Flips sake this fella is 8 years my junior, he's going on like an old wan.

Biggins · 13-03-2012 5:20pm

"Stuff you Senator Mark McSharry, stuff you!"

KeithAFC · 13-03-2012 5:20pm

They seem to be worried about something.

The King of Moo · 13-03-2012 5:22pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

They seem to be worried about something.

Yeah, being criticised, the poor lambs.

Poor Uncle Tom · 13-03-2012 5:23pm

bluewolf wrote: »

.... how do you like them apples!

I smell garlic......:p

Aww, didums, nobody listening to McSharry that he has to give out about others having an opinion and being able to express it...

Professey Chin · 13-03-2012 5:24pm

How would you like to suck my balls Mr McSharry

Biggins · 13-03-2012 5:27pm

Sounds like if he had his way, he'd have Ireland listed up for "Enemy of the Internet!" or "Countries under surveillance".

I think he needs to kop himself on if this story is true!

old hippy · 13-03-2012 5:27pm

If repeated calls for some to be "blasted with piss" is subversion, then the man is spot on :rolleyes:

LittleBook · 13-03-2012 5:29pm

A waste of space spouting shíte from a ridiculous waste of money ... moaning because he's only just now realised no-one gives a crap what comes out of their mouths ... that there's more sense and information to be found in internet discussion forums than in the Seanad.

Subvert the shít out of the senate!

HUNK · 13-03-2012 5:30pm

lol what?

Nodin · 13-03-2012 5:36pm

Sindri wrote: »

Legalised subversion?

Of the state?

Is this man a ****wit or something?

He's a Fianna Fail Senator and son of Ray Mc Sharry.

So yeah.

DavidCochrane · 13-03-2012 5:38pm

DrumSteve wrote: »

So says Senator Mark McSharry today in the Senate:

Lot of this ****e seems to be coming out recently, seems like the boys aren't a fan of boards.

I don't believe sites such as this (and a political website based in ireland when I viewed the link) are subversive, indeed I think they are great because they allow people to put their opinions across without any of the other ****e that goes with it.

His quote in full is here folks, the OP above just copies a bit (without crediting, I'm so calling Sean Sherlock about this!!

)

Biggins · 13-03-2012 5:40pm

Nodin wrote: »

He's a Fianna Fail Senator and son of Ray Mc Sharry.

So yeah.

The apple didn't fall far from the tree then!

AEDIC · 13-03-2012 5:40pm

bluewolf wrote: »

i think you're fundamentally wrong, mr mcsharry. how do you like them apples!

Yeah you might claim they are apples...but there is a faint whiff of garlic off them...

DrumSteve · 13-03-2012 5:40pm

DavidCochrane wrote: »

His quote in full is here folks, the OP above just copies a bit (without crediting, I'm so calling Sean Sherlock about this!! )

ill hold my hands up on this, wasnt sure if I was allowed link to where I seen it originally :-\

ejmaztec · 13-03-2012 5:41pm

Nodin wrote: »

He's a Fianna Fail Senator and son of Ray Mc Sharry.

So yeah.

We can start taking the piss out of political dynasties in that case.

V_Moth · 13-03-2012 5:51pm

He seems about as clued up on the interwebs as this dude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99PcP0aFNE

expectationlost · 13-03-2012 5:54pm

what upset him or his daddy in particular?

karma_ · 13-03-2012 5:54pm

How did this lad get elected? He can barely speak.

Foghladh · 13-03-2012 5:55pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

We can start taking the piss out of political dynasties in that case.

Eh... Pretty small dynasty really

expectationlost · 13-03-2012 5:57pm

Foghladh wrote: »

Eh... Pretty small dynasty really

call it nepotism then

Nodin · 13-03-2012 6:09pm

Norris came out with shite earlier as well.....It must be National Stupid Day in the senate.

Bullseye1 · 13-03-2012 6:11pm

Yesterday it was RTE and its "liberal left agenda" and now it's the general public on boards.ie. These policitans are made of clay.

guitarzero · 13-03-2012 6:11pm

V_Moth wrote: »

He seems about as clued up on the interwebs as this dude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99PcP0aFNE

Wow, how many voices in his head are trying to get out a once?

Indubitable · 13-03-2012 6:12pm

Biggins wrote: »

Sounds like if he had his way, he'd have Ireland listed up for "Enemy of the Internet!" or "Countries under surveillance".

I think he needs to kop himself on if this story is true!

I see that article states that a forum moderator was arrested. Has anyone seen DeVore? Hopefully Mr. McSharry and Mr. Sherlock haven't kidnapped him.

RichieC · 13-03-2012 6:16pm

I told ye all **** wouldnt change in Egypt post Mubarak!

oh **** that's from ireland

Dostoevsky · 13-03-2012 6:20pm

DrumSteve wrote: »

Is Boards.ie subversive to the state?

Boards.ie in 2012 = Fianna Fáil in 1932. Wait until Boards.ie gets to the online equivalent of Fianna Fáil in c. 1940 and I'd start worrying. Radicals are great; it's when they've been in power for so long that they become conservative that they become dangerous.

Ellis Dee · 13-03-2012 6:22pm

If only we could subvert that sad excuse for a political and social system! Unfortunately, sites like this have virtually no effect on the actions of the State nor on politicians. Neither they nor the fat cat capitalists who pull their strings have any concept of things like shame and couldn't really give a toss what any of us write about them. The same goes largely for the kiddy-fiddler church.

However, being able to blast off here gives some of us a bit of relief from frustration and helps preserve our sanity.:):):)

decisions · 13-03-2012 6:22pm

I am subversive, I post on Boards.ie
.: Boards is subversive

My logic is infallible.

GLaDOS · 13-03-2012 6:22pm

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Boards.ie in 2012 = Fianna Fáil in 1932. Wait until Boards.ie gets to the online equivalent of Fianna Fáil in c. 1940 and I'd start worrying. Radicals are great; it's when they've been in power for so long that they become conservative that they become dangerous.

Does that mean we get to reap the benefits of corruption? Sweet!

RichieC · 13-03-2012 6:25pm

marc.macsharry@oireachtas.ie

subvert his email address.

Dostoevsky · 13-03-2012 6:27pm

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Does that mean we get to reap the benefits of corruption? Sweet!

I suspect that if this analogy transpires we, the plebs, get to see our friends suffering the online equivalent of execution and hungerstrike (Dev executed 6 of his former republican supporters, and allowed another 6 to die on hunger strike), while the owners of Boards.ie become conservative (and wealthy), just like Éamon "I own the Irish Press" DeValera and the rest of Fianna Fáil's formerly radical leadership.

Beware the "radical" of today; they are tomorrow's conservatives if they've been given enough power.

blackwhite · 13-03-2012 6:28pm

But I think the problem eh nationally is we preside over a media that we constantly praise for their integrity but the reality is we don't have any reportage in this country what we have is not newspapers but viewspapers. We don't have a national broadcasters that reports news we have a national broadcaster who reports a complexion they wish to place on the facts that are promoted per day. And it doesn't matter who's in government frankly whether it's Fine Gael and Labour whether it's Fianna Fáil amd Sinn Fein

I think he's possibly got a point in this regard. I.E. every "media" organisation is trying to spin things and promote a viewpoint, as opposed to just reporting the news/facts.

His wild tangent in trying to then attack tweeting, forums and online discussion in general just seems like the paranoid swipe of a man who hasn't a clue what he's talking about

micropig · 13-03-2012 6:32pm

DrumSteve wrote: »

So says Senator Mark McSharry today in the Senate:

Lot of this ****e seems to be coming out recently, seems like the boys aren't a fan of boards.

I don't believe sites such as this (and a political website based in ireland when I viewed the link) are subversive, indeed I think they are great because they allow people to put their opinions across without any of the other ****e that goes with it.

Free Speech will never be stopped no matter what they think, it has just moved from the parish pumps to the internet

Maybe he feels this way because he doesn't like people slagging off his daddy:rolleyes:

From the website of the school Ray attended Brendan Drumm & Albert Renyolds also went there;)

Bugging Scandal in 1983: In 1983 he resigned from the Fianna Fáil front bench due to a telephone-tapping controversy, when it was revealed that as Tánaiste and Minister for Finance, he had borrowed police tape recorders to secretly record conversations with a cabinet colleague. MacSharry defended his action by saying that rumours were sweeping the party that he could be 'bought' (bribed) to support efforts to depose Haughey; he claimed used the equipment to record any attempts made to offer bribes. The scandal was however primarily focused on the decision by the Minister for Justice, Sean Doherty, to bug the phones of two leading political journalists to discover their anti-Haughey sources. MacSharry was a secondary but high profile casuality of the scandal, as the equipment he had used had been supplied by Doherty, who had requested it from Assistant Garda (Police) Commissioner Joe Ainsworth . Ainsworth was also forced to resign when the scandal hit the headlines

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