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Lolek Ltd, Trading as 'The Iona Institute'

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    #1022
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Desperate (in both senses) stuff from them in the last few days.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1023
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    The press release was a joke. I can picture Dave shouting out to Ben Conroy, son of Breda, that he's putting his name to some rant for the marriage thing. The whole conservative circle is minute compared to their media presence.


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    #1024
    henryporter
    Registered Users Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    Nodin wrote: »
    O look - a member of the Iona institute conflating gay couples adopting with the marriage referendum. Take it away Breda -

    "This is a referendum about re-defining marriage, and therefore parenting.
    Mary McAleese is a terrific role model as a woman who has always worked outside the home while maintaining a strong family life. As a mother, she is obviously vital to all her children.
    But if the referendum is passed, there will be children born in this country who will never experience a mother’s love. "
    http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/breda-o-brien-does-mary-mcaleese-understand-why-people-are-voting-no-1.2179917

    Not that I'm saying it's part of a co-ordinated strategy, jaysus no.

    TBH if I had her for a mother I think I would seek some form of legal separation. I thought one of the so called Christian values is to love your fellow wo/man. These Iona sickos don't have any love as far as I can see.


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    #1025
    a postere
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 194 ✭✭a postere


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Does that mean the Catholics and Christians (are Catholics not Christians??? :eek:) who support SSM are 'self hating' or some such nonsense?

    Probably, since Gay people not in favour of same sex marriage have been labeled self hating gays and homophobes by the yes side.


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    #1026
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Someone should explain to Breda slowly and with very simple words that growing up with two men doesn't mean you don't know your mother or that you don't have a relationship with her.


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    #1027
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    a postere wrote: »
    Probably, since Gay people not in favour of same sex marriage have been labeled self hating gays and homophobes by the yes side.

    Yer whaa?

    By the way how much are Lolek paying you?


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    #1028
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,285 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    There's a big difference between being not in favour of something for oneself, and deciding that something consenting adults may wish to do is so awful that everyone in society must be denied it however much they want it.

    The latter is supremely conceited and arrogant.


    I wonder was Breda's missive written with knowledge of Mary McAleese's personal interest in the question? If Breda has any shame she should be feeling very ashamed of herself right now.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1029
    Doctor Jimbob
    Registered Users Posts: 7,634 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    a postere wrote: »
    Probably, since Gay people not in favour of same sex marriage have been labeled self hating gays and homophobes by the yes side.

    monkey-with-cymbals-o.gif


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    #1030
    fisgon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    Breda in the Indo....

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gays-should-abstain-from-sex-like-all-unmarried-couples-31153701.html

    Nothing very new there, same old nonsense. What is interesting is that the comments are about 90% hostile to her.

    One of the few pro-Breda comments says "I'll be voting No to protect our children and the unborn". Slight confusion there about the referendum, methinks....


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    #1031
    Ash.J.Williams
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    What i'm noticing is the YES side are quite vague and "sure it's grand" whilst the No side are picking apart the constitution, and all legal ramifications with a fine tooth comb, and to an undecided catholic irish voter it's the No side that come out better. They are basically winning votes by muddying the waters. The yes side need to start hammering home that children are being dealt with seperately.


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    #1032
    oceanclub
    Registered Users Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    Even the No side on Facebook admit Breda's interview was a huge mistake. And her family on Twitter who would normally publicize this are absolutely quiet. Saying gay sex is unnatural and that God's love is withheld from gay people is not exactly the kind of message the No side wants to put across these days.

    P.


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    #1033
    Bannasidhe
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    oceanclub wrote: »
    Even the No side on Facebook admit Breda's interview was a huge mistake. And her family on Twitter who would normally publicize this are absolutely quiet. Saying gay sex is unnatural and that God's love is withheld from gay people is not exactly the kind of message the No side wants to put across these days.

    P.

    We need more Breda.
    Breda articles every day.
    On the Front Page.

    :D


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    #1034
    pauldla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    We need more Breda.
    Breda articles every day.
    On the Front Page.

    :D

    Be careful what you wish for there...


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    #1035
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,857 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Wait...I didn't want to bump up the view counter on that interview with Iona's own Dolores Umbridge, so I didn't read it. Did she really say homosexual sex was unnatural?


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    #1036
    ElChe32
    Registered Users Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ElChe32


    "She says she knew she would never be a nun because "I love men too much"

    The complete wetser


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    #1037
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    We need more Breda.
    Breda articles every day.
    On the Front Page.

    :D

    But the eyes in the picture suck out my soul.........


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    #1038
    fisgon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    ElChe32 wrote: »
    "She says she knew she would never be a nun because "I love men too much"

    The complete wetser

    What is a "wetser"? (I'm really asking..) I can kind of guess, but it's a term I haven't heard before. Maybe it's something all the kids are saying, but I haven't been a kid for a while.....


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    #1039
    ElChe32
    Registered Users Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ElChe32


    fisgon wrote: »
    What is a "wetser"? (I'm really asking..) I can kind of guess, but it's a term I haven't heard before. Maybe it's something all the kids are saying, but I haven't been a kid for a while.....

    "an attractive female who instigates sexual arousal of the male usually through the wearing of provocative attire, or merely by having an amazing rack/arse"


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    #1040
    Bannasidhe
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    ElChe32 wrote: »
    "an attractive female who instigates sexual arousal of the male usually through the wearing of provocative attire, or merely by having an amazing rack/arse"

    I did not know that.

    Isn't learning fun.


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    #1041
    fisgon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    ElChe32 wrote: »
    "an attractive female who instigates sexual arousal of the male usually through the wearing of provocative attire, or merely by having an amazing rack/arse"

    I see you got that off Urban Dictionary, I only thought to look there now. I assume, from the examples given there, that it is an Irish term, probably Dublin, given the -er suffix the Dubs like to put on things.

    Whatever, I think we can safely say that that is the first time that BOB has been called this, and maybe the last..... ;)


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    #1042
    ElChe32
    Registered Users Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ElChe32


    I'd say she's a divil' in the sheets.


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    #1043
    Smiley92a
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭Smiley92a


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Wait...I didn't want to bump up the view counter on that interview with Iona's own Dolores Umbridge, so I didn't read it. Did she really say homosexual sex was unnatural?

    I think she was more evasive than that, said something like 'it depends on what you mean by "natural"'


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    #1044
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    I wonder if she thinks life.long celibacy is natural.


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    #1045
    Ash.J.Williams
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    "i suppose it depends on what you mean by natural"

    cmon folks that is not an unreasonable view for a fundamentalist christian


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    #1046
    oscarBravo
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    "i suppose it depends on what you mean by natural"

    cmon folks that is not an unreasonable view for a fundamentalist christian

    It's not a view; it's an evasion.


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    #1047
    Shrap
    Registered Users Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    I did not know that.

    Isn't learning fun.
    Not this time :mad:
    ElChe32 wrote: »
    I'd say she's a divil' in the sheets.
    Why?! For crying out loud, WHY?!

    If she's sexually uptight on paper, what ON EARTH makes you think she'd let go at home?! The thought that she might just be *looking like a good girl* in her articles but a rampant sex fiend in real life makes me want to heave tbh. That would be genuinely worse than thinking she has these sincerely held religious beliefs about sexual intercourse. Ew.


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    #1048
    volchitsa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Shrap wrote: »
    Not this time :mad:


    Why?! For crying out loud, WHY?!

    If she's sexually uptight on paper, what ON EARTH makes you think she'd let go at home?! The thought that she might just be *looking like a good girl* in her articles but a rampant sex fiend in real life makes me want to heave tbh. That would be genuinely worse than thinking she has these sincerely held religious beliefs about sexual intercourse. Ew.

    Yeah, I've been wondering too why it makes me feel nauseous, and I think it's because of the way it plays into the whole "oh they're all gagging for it really, no matter what they may say to you" thing.

    Not saying the poster - or indeed Breda O'B - meant it that way, but that whole thing of the woman who makes a display of being terribly prudish but in fact can't get enough of it leaves me a little uneasy about what "no" is supposed to mean in that case.


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    #1049
    ElChe32
    Registered Users Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ElChe32


    If you think I was being serious..


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    #1050
    Shrap
    Registered Users Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    ElChe32 wrote: »
    If you think I was being serious..

    Didn't at all. Just that I got a bit sick in my mouth at the thought of it. Plus, it's that whole thing about a woman preferred to be (by folk of an unhealthy attitudinal persuasion towards women) "A cook in the kitchen, a lady in the parlour and a whore in the bedroom" that smacks of "shut the fcuk up woman and make me a sangwich".

    I got that you were joking, but in combination with the lovely Breda's own gender stereotyping and narrow minded parenting roles, it conjured up a nasty taste in my mouth, namely the 1950's and how we're still there in some ways. No worries.


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    #1051
    volchitsa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    ElChe32 wrote: »
    If you think I was being serious..

    No, I think everyone got that it was a joke, and like I said, I didn't even think that you were displaying the attitudes Shrap and I were referring to. I just meant that your joke was bitingly close to the sort of nun-or-whore attitude that Breda O'Brien is (possibly unconsciously) still peddling.

    It wasn't meant as a criticism of you. Honest. :)


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