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Dades · 13-03-2013 12:26pm

mikom wrote: »

Alien, with Sigourney Weaver?

"David Quinn mostly comes out at night...... mostly"

That's from Aliens
/scuttles away

Galvasean · 13-03-2013 4:32pm

lazygal wrote: »

I'm sick to death of hearing that because we have a 'world class maternity system' (yeah right) we don't need abortion. Of course, women who simply don't wish to remain pregnant aren't weighing up the 'excellent' maternity care when they decide abortion is the best option.

We also have reasonably priced nappies. Ergo, abortion is never necessary.

wp_rathead · 13-03-2013 6:09pm

Galvasean wrote: »

We also have reasonably priced nappies. Ergo, abortion is never necessary.

pfft Galvasean, you know they don't care about the little critters once are born

the culture of deference · 19-03-2013 1:10pm

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Obviously it is completely up to God who gets to reproduce and who doesn't.
As God is omnipotent this ensures that every, single baybee (even in the case of multiple births) is guaranteed to be born into the ideal environment to ensure their future well being.

Does quinn believe that IVF babies are different then?

Bannasidhe · 19-03-2013 5:22pm

the culture of deference wrote: »

Does quinn believe that IVF babies are different then?

If I ever find myself understanding what Quinn believes I'm signing up for a huggy jacket and a padded cell.

Obliq · 19-03-2013 9:41pm

the culture of deference wrote: »

Does quinn believe that IVF babies are different then?

No. I imagine he's being more hardcore about his beliefs than most other pro-lifers, but at least he's being consistent. It's about the fact that IVF requires a number of embryos to be grown, and the best ones picked for implantation. Resulting of course in a number of rejects that are disposed of.

Amazingly, most pro-lifers call this different to killing an embryo through abortion, but I can't see how they figure that one out. It's probably only different because they KNOW someone having IVF who REALLY WANTS a baby, so it's not like abortion at all :pac:

By my reckoning by the way - there must be more IVF related embryo deaths every year to Irish parents than there are abortion related embryo deaths.

Hotblack Desiato · 19-03-2013 11:11pm

But lots of fertilised ovums never implant anyway. It's OK when god does it though.

lazygal · 19-03-2013 11:13pm

Nature is the most efficient and ruthless abortionist of all.

Obliq · 19-03-2013 11:25pm

ninja900 wrote: »

But lots of fertilised ovums never implant anyway. It's OK when god does it though.

Ahh but that's god's plan

It's not ok when WE do it, even if the end result is a much wanted IVF baby. Or if YOU decide to abort a fetus, suddenly god makes that fetus MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than the one he made miscarry in your next door neighbour.

mambo · 20-03-2013 12:20pm

If "nature" aborts/miscarries the fetus/baby, then no problem. It's only when humans do the aborting that they have an issue.

In the same way that if an animal is cruel to another animal in the wild, that's just "nature", but if the amimal cruelty is carried out by a human, the animal rights people are up in arms.

Ash.J.Williams · 20-03-2013 12:50pm

Corkfeen wrote: »

It still astonishes me that David Quinn actually gets published in the mainstream press. And it always tends to be absolute rubbish which he produces.

Could be the same reason George Hook and Dunphy are hired too? is he just there to rile people?

keane2097 · 20-03-2013 12:56pm

The "god's plan" argument must be the most inane of the lot. If a god had a plan what sort of plastic joke god would he need to be for me to be able to wreck it by hitting the sperm bank?

If you proved he existed to me I'd probably give him a wedgie, he's clearly a sniveler.

the culture of deference · 20-03-2013 3:59pm

lazygal wrote: »

Nature is the most efficient and ruthless abortionist of all.

With the development of highly sensitive assays for hCG levels that can detect an early pregnancy even prior to the expected next period (menstruation), researchers have been able to show that around 60% to 70% of all pregnancies (recognized and unrecognized) are lost. Because the loss occurs so early, many miscarriages occur without the woman ever having known she was pregnant.

http://www.medicinenet.com/miscarriage/article.htm

keane2097 wrote: »

The "god's plan" argument must be the most inane of the lot. If a god had a plan what sort of plastic joke god would he need to be for me to be able to wreck it by hitting the sperm bank?

If you proved he existed to me I'd probably give him a wedgie, he's clearly a sniveler.

Gods plan. What a joke

65 million years ago the dinosaurs didn't praise god enough so guess what the petty narcissistic cnut does ....

kylith · 20-03-2013 4:10pm

the culture of deference wrote: »

With the development of highly sensitive assays for hCG levels that can detect an early pregnancy even prior to the expected next period (menstruation), researchers have been able to show that around 60% to 70% of all pregnancies (recognized and unrecognized) are lost. Because the loss occurs so early, many miscarriages occur without the woman ever having known she was pregnant.

http://www.medicinenet.com/miscarriage/article.htm

Gods plan. What a joke

I remember hearing something about that; doesn't it boil down to 'just about every time your period has been late you've had a miscarriage'?

the culture of deference wrote: »

65 million years ago the dinosaurs didn't praise god enough so guess what the petty narcissistic cnut does ....

Yeah, but they were around for 160 million years before he got round to it, so we should be ok for a while.

Bannasidhe · 20-03-2013 4:15pm

kylith wrote: »

I remember hearing something about that; doesn't it boil down to 'just about every time your period has been late you've had a miscarriage'?

.

That can't possibly be correct...:eek:

kylith · 20-03-2013 4:20pm

Bannasidhe wrote: »

That can't possibly be correct...:eek:

My mother was probably paraphrasing, but the gist was that you get knocked up, and miscarry, a lot more than you'd think.

Bannasidhe · 20-03-2013 4:31pm

kylith wrote: »

My mother was probably paraphrasing, but the gist was that you get knocked up, and miscarry, a lot more than you'd think.

How very hetro-normative of her.

Pherekydes · 20-03-2013 4:35pm

kylith wrote: »

My mother was probably paraphrasing, but the gist was that you get knocked up, and miscarry, a lot more than you'd think.

Even when you're not having sex?

keane2097 · 20-03-2013 4:37pm

Pherekydes wrote: »

Even when you're not having sex?

Toilet seats. Not a myth.

kylith · 20-03-2013 4:44pm

Bannasidhe wrote: »

How very hetro-normative of her.

You know what Mammys are like. I hate to admit it, but there can be a bit of 'I'm not a bigot, but...' from her.

Pherekydes wrote: »

Even when you're not having sex?

Especially when you're not having sex.

Genghiz Cohen · 20-03-2013 4:44pm

keane2097 wrote: »

Toilet seats. Not a myth.

That's a myth!

the culture of deference · 20-03-2013 4:57pm

kylith wrote: »

Yeah, but they were around for 160 million years before he got round to it, so we should be ok for a while.

Ok so petty narcissistic and ........ LAZY :pac:

I have a monty python style scene in my head now.

god in bed and his mother nagging up at him Irish style,
"youv'e been in that bed 160 million years, you can't stay up there forever, now get up and do something about them dino's if it's bothering you so much"

PopePalpatine · 20-03-2013 7:36pm

the culture of deference wrote: »

65 million years ago the dinosaurs didn't praise god enough so guess what the petty narcissistic cnut does ....

So THAT is why the gas giants have such fierce storms. :eek:

the culture of deference · 21-03-2013 2:37am

PopePalpatine wrote: »

So THAT is why the gas giants have such fierce storms. :eek:

Yea they were all probably stunning planets before he got pissed off and destroyed them all. I reckon if the people who invented religion had known about planets there would be stories like that. ....

And god condemned the planet into a perpetual fiery storm, and he did smote them all.

Galvasean · 21-03-2013 1:47pm

the culture of deference wrote: »

65 million years ago the dinosaurs didn't praise god enough so guess what the petty narcissistic cnut does ....

66 [/pedant]

robindch · 21-03-2013 2:17pm

^^^ That's the spirit!

Hotblack Desiato · 22-03-2013 12:43am

the culture of deference wrote: »

and he did smote them all.

did smite them all. Sheesh.

Nice pic though

Turtwig · 22-03-2013 3:07am

As long as the dolphins are still in the sea and happily eating fish we're going to be fine.

the culture of deference · 22-03-2013 3:25pm

2 pedants in 3 posts, whats the odds ..............

Galvasean wrote: »

66 [/pedant]

The space rock that hit Earth 65 million years ago and is widely implicated in the end of the dinosaurs was likely a speeding comet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21709229

ninja900 wrote: »

did smite them all. Sheesh.

Nice pic though

Smote is the past tense of smite

Delirium · 22-03-2013 3:29pm

the culture of deference wrote: »

2 pedants in 3 posts, whats the odds ..............

The space rock that hit Earth 65 million years ago and is widely implicated in the end of the dinosaurs was likely a speeding comet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21709229

Smote is the past tense of smite

"did smite" is past tense due to the inclusion of the word "did".

You can correctly use "did smite" or "smote", but not "did smote".

/pedant-bandwagon-hopping :P

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