Do people look down on other who dont own cars?

meoklmrk91

I wouldn't ever look down on someone for not driving, at the end of the day it is their choice and many people do choose not to. Where I live it is a necessity, I think it is when you are living outside of a city in Ireland TBH. I do know a few people who have chosen not to drive, one girl has been bought a few cars by her Dad, she has no interest in it at all or anything else really, getting a job going to college etc. Her Dad just wants to see her get on so decided to get her a car to help her along each time she sold the car for money. Now that I find strange.

I personally couldn't be without a car, I got my license at 17, was on the road just after my 18th birthday and haven't stopped since. The car is a necessity for me and I couldn't ever see myself giving it up.

Pilotdude5

Just got my full licence 3 weeks ago. I got my private pilots licence 2 years ago. Had a racer bike so I just cycled up to the airport.:)

micropig

GaryIrv93 wrote: »

I'm only 18 and havn't even got behind the wheel of any car yet - havn't even done my Theory Test, but I'm looking to soon. Thing is I'm quite paranoid about not being able to get used to the constant gear shifting and clutch pedal even though I've never done it before. I'm aware of the disadvantages of doing tests in automatic cars - the restricted licence BS. IMO it kind of bullies people out of doing their tests in automatics. People make their own decisions in life whether to drive whatever type-of-transmission car, and so don't exactly deserve to be looked down on. :rolleyes:

Practice, Practice, Practice...it becomes second nature after a while

Sardonicat

micropig wrote: »

Practice, Practice, Practice...it becomes second nature after a while

Unless you're dyspraxic. Or a moron, apparently.

GaryIrv93

Fair enough, Jesus.....

44leto

Cars are great, a great freedom, you get in and you can go anywhere in comfort. I need a car as my job is 20 miles from me and just outside Dublin. But when I am at home I tend to cycle, I much prefer to cycle then drive. I actually hate driving.

So I could live without a car if I was closer to my job. There are people from New York, London, Amsterdam and other Nordic cities who never bothered to learn how to drive, because their public transport is so good, they never need to drive.

But Dublin could never be like that, our city is more LA with its sprawl, motorways and malls, then the slick nordic cities.

Professey Chin

GaryIrv93 wrote: »

I'm only 18 and havn't even got behind the wheel of any car yet - havn't even done my Theory Test, but I'm looking to soon. Thing is I'm quite paranoid about not being able to get used to the constant gear shifting and clutch pedal even though I've never done it before. I'm aware of the disadvantages of doing tests in automatic cars - the restricted licence BS. IMO it kind of bullies people out of doing their tests in automatics. People make their own decisions in life whether to drive whatever type-of-transmission car, and so don't exactly deserve to be looked down on. :rolleyes:

A restricted license is needed though. An automatic is pretty different from a manual so why should the easier entitle you to the harder?

Sardonicat

micropig wrote: »

Now, Now, I said if you have a medical condition, you have a reason not to be able to work the gears, that's understandable



If you're physically and mentally capable but just not intelligent enough...then your a moron!!:D

Abilty to co-ordinate has nothing to do with intelligence.

And, like most dyspraxics, I've spent half my life and all of my childhood being called and made to feel like a moron (or a more polite, socially accecptable version that amounts to the same thing.) I know you are only having the banter and I don't mean to hi-jack the thread but your attitude to people who have co-ordination problems perpetuates a very negative and inaccurate stereotype equating difficulties with fine and gross motor skills with a low iq.

micropig

Sardonicat wrote: »

Abilty to co-ordinate has nothing to do with intelligence.

And, like most dyspraxics, I've spent half my life and all of my childhood being called and made to feel like a moron (or a more polite, socially accecptable version that amounts to the same thing.) I know you are only having the banter and I don't mean to hi-jack the thread but your attitude to people who have co-ordination problems perpetuates a very negative and inaccurate stereotype equating difficulties with fine and gross motor skills with a low iq.

Is being dyspraxic not a medical condition? That prevents you from driving?


I said that that was understandable,



I have nothing against people with co-ordination problem

I never said difficulties with fine and gross motor skills = low IQ
I never perpetuated a very negative and inaccurate stereotype



In the post I clearly excused those with medical problems, it is you who equated dyspraxics with low IQ



Thousands/Millions? of people drive everyday, for someone WITHOUT a medical condition, it is not that hard to do

K-9

Pilotdude5 wrote: »

Just got my full licence 3 weeks ago. I got my private pilots licence 2 years ago. Had a racer bike so I just cycled up to the airport.:)

That's cool, pilots licence before your drivers licence.

I dont drive, I'm driven.


/Monocle

Sitec

Lando Griffin wrote: »

Yes and they deserve to.

Someone who can get a loan to buy a car is probably in a better financial situtation than someone who hasent tried to get a loan to have a car.

Funny this thread should happen today as it was only yeaterday myself and the OH was visiting her sister.

They live in a housing estate ( mainly 3 bedroomed semis and not one 2012 car in the whole estate ).

When we got to our ( mainly 4 bedroomed detched ) estate I counted 7 2012 cars.

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Babybuff

I look down on car owners. I look down on most people tbf

DoneDL

Great thread . Anyone who looks down on other people isn`t worth knowing EVER.

desertcircus

I can't imagine buying a car in Dublin. I'm living a full twelve kilometres outside the city and it's not particularly tough doing without. I tried timing my commute; thirty minutes flat by road bike, 35 by hybrid bike, about an hour by bus, and I'm genuinely afraid to see how long a car takes.

The journey home might be slightly faster by car (but only slightly - I used to see the same Aston Martin DB9 at Leeson Bridge every day, and then again while I was slogging up the hill to White's Cross when it finally caught up again), but the journey inwards, particularly when school's on, is horrible.

I know there are definitely jobs which make a car necessary - my girlfriend's probably going to have to get one once she qualifies as a teacher, as she's expecting to have to do a fair bit of substitute work to start off - but if you work in the same office Monday to Friday, and it's in a city (and let's face it, if you're driving into Dublin at 8am on a Monday morning, you probably do, and it probably is) then driving to work is a decision I honestly cannot understand.

micropig

DoneDL wrote: »

Great thread . Anyone who looks down on other people isn`t worth knowing EVER.

Luckily, you're beneath us and your opinion doesn't count:p:D

Babybuff

DoneDL wrote: »

Great thread . Anyone who looks down on other people isn`t worth knowing EVER.

too busy looking down on you to give a crap

hattoncracker

I have a theory on this one.

When I was 18, I left my small hometown and moved to Dub. Despite consistent nagging from the mother, I refused to learn to drive for the sheer simple fact that 1. I wouldn't use it, and 2. It's an expense I could well live without what with rent, bills and everything else!

The only people I knew in Dublin for the whole time I was living there who had cars were people who lived at home and didn't have to pay rent, but still nagged me because I didn't drive. Now I've moved to Limerick, still pay rent (about 40% less than what I was paying), and am learning to drive at the age of 25. Do I regret not doing it sooner? Yes, but only because of the new el retardo learning system, the cost of which is totally crippling.
When you can live comfortably with rent, bills, AND running your own car, then you've got it made, IMO!

I don't judge people who don't drive, but drivers sure did judge me!

pixelburp

I'm a recent convert to the commute by car, after I changed jobs near the end of the year. I only got my licence at the start of 2011, so at the ripe old age of 30, I was a very late arrival to the world of driving. I don't honestly see what the fuss is about - it's an expensive, stressful pain in the arse.

The reason why I left it late was quite simply because I never had a practical need; everywhere I needed to be - be it professionally or personally - could be achieved by a combination of public transport. Happily most of my jobs were near bus / train corridors that overlapped with where I lived. Socialising tended to be in the city centre, so it was all good. Sure I had to juggle taxis sometimes, but honestly - it still works out so much cheaper than a motor. That said, I should have got my licence much earlier than I did, as it would have driven the insurance down a little more when I eventually bought my first car.

I only got my ass in gear - see what I did there - when I moved jobs & suddenly had a commute without a particularly handy public-transport option (Bueamont -> Clonskeagh). So the car was bought, the budgets juggled & I can honestly say I miss public transport.

Whilst the freedom a car gives you is undeniable, public transport made travelling a more pleasurable activity. Yes, even standing in the cold & rain at a bustop is preferable to clutch-brake-clutching your way across the city centre; desperately avoiding every suicidal cyclists & douchebag BMW driver intent on killing you. I miss being able to read my book, relax and generally enjoy the world go by as I'm (essentially) chauffeured around town. Plus it was cheaper, god it's so much cheaper.

So uhhh.. in answer to the original question, no I don't look down on people without cars; I envy their true freedom.

Edit: Oh and since getting the car, I've become less fit & put on weight. That really sucks; if nothing else public transport is a simple way of keeping fit.

Babybuff

pixelburp wrote: »

I'm a recent convert to the commute by car, after I changed jobs near the end of the year. I only got my licence at the start of 2011, so at the ripe old age of 30, I was a very late arrival to the world of driving. I don't honestly see what the fuss is about - it's an expensive, stressful pain in the arse.

I agree, driving is completely over rated. I got my first car at 22 and needed it at the time as I had a school going child and I worked on the outskirts of town so it was essential. I hated driving and I still remember the stress, none of my friends drove so I was used as a taxi ferrying people around too, such a pain in the arse. Was on the way to pick up the kid one day when some dumb bint drove her car into mine and shunted me into another car. I called it quits after that and it took about two years before I was able to sit in a car without my muscles tensing up. I walk pretty much everywhere now, I live in the centre of my city so everything is within walking distance. If I want to go anywhere long distance I get a bus. I'm fitter, less stressed and financially better off without one.

The Agogo

bubblefett wrote: »

I've no issues with peope who don't own a car.
I hate the lil boy racers out in daddy's car though.
And find the lil boy racers out in mammy's micra adorable.

That's me! Just wish she didn't put flower-shaped stickers all over the back of it though :mad:

TreesAreCrowd

Sort the school children out and you sort out the traffic issues.

Driving, even in Dublin city, is a dream when it's summer time/the kids are off school.

Roisy7

My mom never learned to drive, she is in her late 50s now and I doubt she's gonna at this stage! It was just her and me at home and it was a bloody pain in the arse in someways growing up. I'm from a fairly big town with good public transport but all my friends, matches, events were out in the country.

People look at her with total shock when she says she doesn't drive.

Personally, I'm currently learning, but it would have been so much handier-and cheaper- to have a car at home to practice in instead of getting lessons every week. I'm on lesson 15 or so I don't even want to think about how much I've spent on learning to drive, or how much I will spend if I ever can afford a car

paddyandy

If they were'nt so much trouble and expense i'd have one but people are always complaining about parking or traffic or something .I don't need one anyway .

mickrock

pixelburp wrote: »

Yes, even standing in the cold & rain at a bustop is preferable to clutch-brake-clutching your way across the city centre

Switch over to an automatic car if you do a lot of start/stop driving.

They're much more relaxing.

Nothingbetter2d

Lapin wrote: »

People in double decker buses look down on everyone.

so do aircraft pilots

unkymo

Roisy7 wrote: »

My mom never learned to drive, she is in her late 50s now and I doubt she's gonna at this stage! It was just her and me at home and it was a bloody pain in the arse in someways growing up. I'm from a fairly big town with good public transport but all my friends, matches, events were out in the country.

People look at her with total shock when she says she doesn't drive.

Personally, I'm currently learning, but it would have been so much handier-and cheaper- to have a car at home to practice in instead of getting lessons every week. I'm on lesson 15 or so I don't even want to think about how much I've spent on learning to drive, or how much I will spend if I ever can afford a car

My mother was 54 when she started to learn,failed the test twice but passed on the third go. Never too late I suppose!

ED E

2 Wheels 4 Life

Nothingbetter2d

unkymo wrote: »

My mother was 54 when she started to learn,failed the test twice but passed on the third go. Never too late I suppose!

lol my 82 year old granny renewed her driving license last year... she has never driven a car in her life she even gave away my grandad's car to my aunt after grandad had his stroke, and died a few months later.

ED E

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

so do aircraft pilots

ISS got you all :P