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Just bought a 2005 Audi a4 2.0tdi, need help!

  • 10-03-2012 6:12pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭


    Hey guys,
    as the title says i just bought that car, its lovely, absolutely immaculate, s line, It has 110k on the clock,everything i was looking for. Unfortunately I didn't realise how many horror stories are online regarding the oil pump/balancer shaft issue. Im very worried now as i cant really afford to fix it if it goes wrong. Im very disappointed now as i only have the car a few days and was so happy with it. Is there anything i can do to prevent this from happening?? Or is there any audi specialists people can reccomend?? Any help or insight would be gratefully accepted, Thanks guys

    By the way its the BLB engine code, which is apparantly the notoriously bad one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    Totally gutted.... :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭worc


    Would that be a black one bought in Dublin for €7.5k? Had my eye on that (and a few others) till I read about that issue. Amazing how common it seems to be and wasn't acknowledged as a common failure.

    Thread here about it - you may come across that one already. I didn't read the entire thing but I think some people were saying you can do some preventative work now that doesn't cost an arm and a leg before it happens. I stand to be completely corrected on that though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    worc wrote: »
    Would that be a black one bought in Dublin for €7.5k? Had my eye on that (and a few others) till I read about that issue. Amazing how common it seems to be and wasn't acknowledged as a common failure.

    Thread here about it - you may come across that one already. I didn't read the entire thing but I think some people were saying you can do some preventative work now that doesn't cost an arm and a left before it happens. I stand to be completely corrected on that though!

    No man it wasnt that one sorry!! Thanks for the link, hadnt come across it yet. God i hope your right, i dont mind spending some money if it puts my mind at rest, the worrying is the worst part like!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    Actually thats the thread that got me so worried in the first place on second look but thanks for the input anyway, i reaally appreciate it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    gollywog wrote: »
    Totally gutted.... :(

    Its not a big deal op so chill..:) It costs about 250 quid to change it and thats including new oil and filter..

    Pm george dalton if he dont reply here on thread. Have the injectors being done??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    Its not a big deal op so chill..:) It costs about 250 quid to change it and thats including new oil and filter..

    Pm george dalton if he dont reply here on thread. Have the injectors being done??

    Oh really??? the way there talkin over on audi sport net you would imagine it to cost 3k??? ill wait and see does he reply and pm him tomorrow if not, thanks man, super appreciated!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,816 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    There's nothing wrong with your car, calm down, don't be worrying about it. Everything always seems worse on the internet I wouldn't worry about it. According to the internet my engine should have blown about 40,000 miles ago, pure nonsense. My particle article is meant to go any minute and that will cost €3000 according to the internet.
    Seriously if you were to believe the screamers on the internet you'd never buy anything ever again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    There's nothing wrong with your car, calm down, don't be worrying about it. Everything always seems worse on the internet I wouldn't worry about it. According to the internet my engine should have blown about 40,000 miles ago, pure nonsense. My particle article is meant to go any minute and that will cost €3000 according to the internet.
    Seriously if you were to believe the screamers on the internet you'd never buy anything ever again.

    Ya your right, sorry was a bit hysterical there, let it get on top of me a bit.... Reading all that stuff kinda ruined getting it tho so im glad i posted here, has put my mind at ease a good bit :) The car is driving grand, extremely nicely and smooth i have to say so fingers crossed it continues now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    gollywog wrote: »
    Oh really??? the way there talkin over on audi sport net you would imagine it to cost 3k??? ill wait and see does he reply and pm him tomorrow if not, thanks man, super appreciated!!!

    They are half right though. If the shaft breaks the turbo is toast but change it early and you will be fine.

    As the saying goes no point in closing the door when the horse in gone down the field..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I know how you feel OP, I once bought some AA batteries and it was only after the fact did I find out that they don't last forever! I couldn't believe I'd been so stupid!! I contemplated suicide over that fiasco, but thankfully I persevered.

    Best of luck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    I know how you feel OP, I once bought some AA batteries and it was only after the fact did I find out that they don't last forever! I couldn't believe I'd been so stupid!! I contemplated suicide over that fiasco, but thankfully I persevered.

    Best of luck.

    I know I sound a bit silly but just would like more info!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    As said, it sounds like your over reacting a bit. Worry about the problems if/when they arise. I could write a list of 'common' problems for almost any modern car.


    On the flip side though.....how does anyone hand over thousands of their own euro without researching what they are buying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    There are two separate problems which affect the 2.0TDI engines in the A4. Both are associated with the oil pump and balance shaft drive system.

    The early cars (up to mid 2006 or thereabouts) used a chain drive from the crankshaft to the balance shaft/oil pump unit. The plastic tensioner on this chain breaks which leads to wear on the chain sprockets and eventual failure of the oil pump drive system, with predictable results.

    VW obviously became aware of this problem at an early stage in the production run because from mid 2006 the drive system was changed from chain to a more reliable gear setup. They stopped supplying spare parts for the chain setup so many early cars that suffered chain failure were upgraded to the later gear type system.

    Unfortunately this is only one problem with the oil pump drive. The other is the hex drive for the oil pump. The gears only directly drive the balance shaft. The oil pump is situated at the back of the balance shaft where it is driven off the shaft by a hex shaped bar. About half of the total length of the bar is in the oil pump but it only extends into the end of the balance shaft by about 25mm. For some reason the bar is quite a loose fit in the balance shaft which means that over time the corners wear off until eventually it gets to the stage where the balance shaft is spinning as normal but the oil pump isn't being driven.

    Pictures below of a worn drive bar. This was removed from a 2008 Audi A6 @ 129,000km as a preventative maintenance measure.

    The wear on the end of the shaft is clear to see. This probably would have failed within a short space of time if it hadn't been removed.

    DSC01230.JPG


    DSC01235.JPG

    The newer balance shaft assembly is slightly improved in that it features a longer drive bar which extends further into the balance shaft which should extend the mileage they do before wearing out. But it is just a modification of a crap design rather a proper cure for the problem.

    If the OP wants to take preventative steps to avoid problems down the line then the first thing that needs to be established is whether the car is still running its original chain drive system or has been fitted with the gear setup at some stage during its life.

    If it is running the gear system then I would strongly advise removing the sump and balance shaft and replacing the hex drive bar. Once this is done you should have at least 100,000km before having to worry about it again.

    If it has the chain drive then I would say remove the sump and replace the hex drive and inspect the chain and tensioner. If the tensioner has broken the recommended solution is to change to gear drive but this costs a lot of money, the balance shaft assembly alone costs circa €1000 + VAT then on top of that you have to buy the other gears and pay for labour. Parts to repair the chain drive are available from aftermarket sources but I don't know what the quality is like. Because of the cost involved I would say if the tensioner is ok then leave the chain drive as is. One good thing about the chain setup is that when the tensioner breaks the chain drive still works for some time afterwards with just some extra noise which should serve as a warning. So as long as you are aware of the symptoms of the issue then you should avoid doing any damage even if it does fail at some stage.

    Unfortunately very often people either don't notice the extra noise or choose to ignore it until it fails completely at which stage the repair bill will either be big or very very big, depending on how lucky you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    Thanks george, thats a seriously detailed and informative post.
    Can you reccomend who or where i should go to have my car looked at to see what the story is???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    I think the guy who wrote the post would be the man to go to!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    gpf101 wrote: »
    I think the guy who wrote the post would be the man to go to!

    Good point man, im having one of those days ha... George, can you pm your details so i can give you a shout?? Where are you based?
    Thanks again to all who replied


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Here you go man http://vagdrivers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=57780

    Located between Portlaoise and Abbeyleix. Good guy. Where are you located?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    gpf101 wrote: »
    Here you go man http://vagdrivers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=57780

    Located between Portlaoise and Abbeyleix. Good guy. Where are you located?

    Cheers man :)
    Im from gorey in wexford


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    gollywog wrote: »
    Cheers man :)
    Im from gorey in wexford



    Well worth the spin when you know it'll be done properly IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    gollywog wrote: »
    Cheers man :)
    Im from gorey in wexford



    Well worth the spin when you know it'll be done properly IMO.


    I think it's a spin ill be making soon tbh because I want piece of mind! I adore the car so want to be able to relax and enjoy it! Apart from these issues, what's everyone's opinion on the car? It's my first car I've had that I've really wanted and i love everythin about it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    gollywog wrote: »
    Cheers man :)
    Im from gorey in wexford



    Well worth the spin when you know it'll be done properly IMO.


    I think it's a spin ill be making soon tbh because I want piece of mind! I adore the car so want to be able to relax and enjoy it! Apart from these issues, what's everyone's opinion on the car? It's my first car I've had that I've really wanted and i love everythin about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Lovely car, and the engine, those issues aside, has a nice bit of power for real world driving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    gpf101 wrote: »
    Lovely car, and the engine, those issues aside, has a nice bit of power for real world driving.

    Ya its alot nicer than my previous cars, love everything about it except the obvious!
    Just called george dalton there anyway and i'll be going up to laois to get this looked at and sorted out soon, so hopefully his diagnosis wont be too taxing on my wallet!
    Fingers crossed!


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gollywog wrote: »
    ........... s line, It has 110k on the clock............

    ......
    gollywog wrote: »
    ............ what's everyone's opinion on the car?...........

    Personally I think they are grossly overpriced for what they are, especially the S lines. At a guess I imagine it cost north of €12,000.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    RoverJames wrote: »
    ......



    Personally I think they are grossly overpriced for what they are, especially the S lines. At a guess I imagine it cost north of €12,000.

    Nope, 7900, full service history, timing belt done last week, new clutch and flywheel very recently and 3 month warranty... wasnt too bad i think??? well just thinkin its gonna end up a bit more than 7900 after getting this done id say ha!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭tossy


    gollywog wrote: »
    what's everyone's opinion on the car? It's my first car I've had that I've really wanted and i love everythin about it

    If you love it and wanted it then who cares what other peoples opinions are,just drive it and enjoy it.Besides it's a bit silly asking opinions after you bought it lol

    Anyway George is the best man for the job and will see you right,no point worrying over things that haven't happened yet especially on a car,not good for the soul :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    tossy wrote: »
    gollywog wrote: »
    what's everyone's opinion on the car? It's my first car I've had that I've really wanted and i love everythin about it

    If you love it and wanted it then who cares what other peoples opinions are,just drive it and enjoy it.Besides it's a bit silly asking opinions after you bought it lol

    Anyway George is the best man for the job and will see you right,no point worrying over things that haven't happened yet especially on a car,not good for the soul :pac:

    Very good point! Ya, now I know I'm going up to George I've relaxed alot, he has nothing but glowing recommendations as far as I can see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭framework123


    There are two separate problems which affect the 2.0TDI engines in the A4. Both are associated with the oil pump and balance shaft drive system.

    The early cars (up to mid 2006 or thereabouts) used a chain drive from the crankshaft to the balance shaft/oil pump unit. The plastic tensioner on this chain breaks which leads to wear on the chain sprockets and eventual failure of the oil pump drive system, with predictable results.

    VW obviously became aware of this problem at an early stage in the production run because from mid 2006 the drive system was changed from chain to a more reliable gear setup. They stopped supplying spare parts for the chain setup so many early cars that suffered chain failure were upgraded to the later gear type system.

    Unfortunately this is only one problem with the oil pump drive. The other is the hex drive for the oil pump. The gears only directly drive the balance shaft. The oil pump is situated at the back of the balance shaft where it is driven off the shaft by a hex shaped bar. About half of the total length of the bar is in the oil pump but it only extends into the end of the balance shaft by about 25mm. For some reason the bar is quite a loose fit in the balance shaft which means that over time the corners wear off until eventually it gets to the stage where the balance shaft is spinning as normal but the oil pump isn't being driven.

    Pictures below of a worn drive bar. This was removed from a 2008 Audi A6 @ 129,000km as a preventative maintenance measure.

    The wear on the end of the shaft is clear to see. This probably would have failed within a short space of time if it hadn't been removed.

    DSC01230.JPG


    DSC01235.JPG

    The newer balance shaft assembly is slightly improved in that it features a longer drive bar which extends further into the balance shaft which should extend the mileage they do before wearing out. But it is just a modification of a crap design rather a proper cure for the problem.

    If the OP wants to take preventative steps to avoid problems down the line then the first thing that needs to be established is whether the car is still running its original chain drive system or has been fitted with the gear setup at some stage during its life.

    If it is running the gear system then I would strongly advise removing the sump and balance shaft and replacing the hex drive bar. Once this is done you should have at least 100,000km before having to worry about it again.

    If it has the chain drive then I would say remove the sump and replace the hex drive and inspect the chain and tensioner. If the tensioner has broken the recommended solution is to change to gear drive but this costs a lot of money, the balance shaft assembly alone costs circa €1000 + VAT then on top of that you have to buy the other gears and pay for labour. Parts to repair the chain drive are available from aftermarket sources but I don't know what the quality is like. Because of the cost involved I would say if the tensioner is ok then leave the chain drive as is. One good thing about the chain setup is that when the tensioner breaks the chain drive still works for some time afterwards with just some extra noise which should serve as a warning. So as long as you are aware of the symptoms of the issue then you should avoid doing any damage even if it does fail at some stage.

    Unfortunately very often people either don't notice the extra noise or choose to ignore it until it fails completely at which stage the repair bill will either be big or very very big, depending on how lucky you are.



    George,

    Is there anyway of telling which type of engine I have - chain driven or
    gear?

    Engine code is - BRE 072516
    Chassis is - WAUZZZ8E17A045189
    Audi A4 2.0 TDI 140BHP
    Purchased originally Mid - 2006

    There is currently  77,000 km done on it ...What would you recommend I do
    at this stage?
    I would be happy to spend a few bob now to stop more expensive potential
    problems in the future


    I also found letter to previous owner see attached, it seems  related to
    these problems?
    I rang the garage about it and they said it was checked  but no work was
    done on it,but that was back in 2009?


    http://db.tt/Orf9BTgN

    Thanks

    --


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,748 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    gollywog wrote: »
    Thanks george, thats a seriously detailed and informative post.
    Can you reccomend who or where i should go to have my car looked at to see what the story is???

    ......there's this one guy, called, er em............George ?? :p

    On a lighter note: George, that slack-fit hex - I really hope they hardened it, that's Chinese-level of quality...........but, wouldn't some Bearing Fit on it help too, even if you do have the hex bar, and are fitting a new one ?

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    It's difficult to say whether bearing fit would do any good. On the whole I think it wouldn't as the whole thing is too loose a fit.

    It is actually good that someone bumped up this thread because I have a bit more info to add to it based on our experiences with these over the past few months. We have seen loads of them lately, doing on average one per week.

    What we have been seeing more and more is damage to the balance shaft itself where the hex bar fits in to the extent that a new hex bar is not sufficient to cure the problem. In the past this would have meant buying a new balance shaft at a cost of €1000 ex VAT but now a company in NI called Powermax Engineering offer a repair on the damaged shaft by fitting a hardened insert with a closer fit to the hex bar.

    They are repairing a balance shaft from one of our customer's BRE code engines as we speak, I took some pictures of the damage before I sent it away and I will take some pictures of the result when I get it back in the next day or so, just so people can see what I am waffling on about :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,748 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    ......but now a company in NI called Powermax Engineering offer a repair on the damaged shaft by fitting a hardened insert with a closer fit to the hex bar.
    .....
    what I am waffling on about :pac:

    ....you beat me to it: I was wondering if there was a market for a properly sized, hardened hex drive.........but if the balancer material is soft as well.....jeez, lose-lose scenario.........:confused: Makes you wonder if VAG ever ventured outside the carpark with the bloody things. They spend 10's of millions on an engine..........that doesn't get more than a couple of years in the market before exhibiting excessive wear and failure ? FFS.........does nobody test anything anymore ?



    oh, and, 'waffle' ?....not at all......Carry On Waffling - One Man's Waffle is Another Man's.....er, Gospel ? :D

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Bing_IRL


    a company in NI called Powermax Engineering offer a repair on the damaged shaft by fitting a hardened insert with a closer fit to the hex bar.

    Hi George,

    I wonder if you've seen first hand the conversion repair that Powermax do? Link Does this remove the need for the HEX altogether? I've got a BLB with the chain driven unit & just wonder if I should do the conversion when I get the timing belt done? I'm at 100,000km at the minute so should be coming up soon enough.

    Also, has anyone noticed that these engine tend to "whine" a bit? Mine's done it for 3 years now but haven't heard one like it.

    Cheers,
    Bing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Hi Bing,

    That conversion is for the external drive mechanism. The hex is inside the balance shaft and cannot be done away with. As far as I know when Powermax do the chain to gear conversion on your old balance shaft unit they also fit their improved hardened insert into the balance shaft which should mean no more problems with the hex drive.

    I would certainly recommend checking the existing chain drive and hex drive in your car at the very least. Obviously converting to gear drive and upgrading the hex drive is the ideal situation but that kind of outlay is not easy to come by these days....

    HTH

    George


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    I think I need my one done too George. Mine is CBA and has 120k on the clock..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Bing_IRL


    Hi Bing,

    That conversion is for the external drive mechanism. The hex is inside the balance shaft and cannot be done away with. As far as I know when Powermax do the chain to gear conversion on your old balance shaft unit they also fit their improved hardened insert into the balance shaft which should mean no more problems with the hex drive.

    I would certainly recommend checking the existing chain drive and hex drive in your car at the very least. Obviously converting to gear drive and upgrading the hex drive is the ideal situation but that kind of outlay is not easy to come by these days....

    HTH

    George

    Thanks for that George. While it might be a lot to lay out to get it sorted, it's certainly cheaper than buying the parts from Audi!

    PS. Been folowing your stolen S4 thread. Hope all works out for you!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    Bing_IRL wrote: »

    Thanks for that George. While it might be a lot to lay out to get it sorted, it's certainly cheaper than buying the parts from Audi!

    PS. Been folowing your stolen S4 thread. Hope all works out for you!

    I had one of these recently, I actually started this thread lol. When I found out about the issue, mine was a BLB too, I couldn't enjoy the car for fear of it going wrong and costing me a small fortune. IMO its worth spending some money now and saving a much bigger job, and also very importantly, you will have some peace of mind which is priceless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Oli Holister


    Hi Bing,

    That conversion is for the external drive mechanism. The hex is inside the balance shaft and cannot be done away with. As Audi Service far as I know when Powermax do the chain to gear conversion on your old balance shaft unit they also fit their improved hardened insert into the balance shaft which should mean no more problems with the hex drive.

    I would certainly recommend checking the existing chain drive and hex drive in your car at the very least. Obviously converting to gear drive and upgrading the hex drive is the ideal situation but that kind of outlay is not easy to come by these days....

    HTH

    George

    Hit the nail on the head there, great post. I read this while ago but I thought I would sign up and say thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭blacklilly


    On the one hand I'm really annoyed I looked at this thread on the other hand its opened my eyes. I recently bought an A4 2.0 tdi 08 and now I'm terrified ill have this problem. Can someone tell me the warning signs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    There are no warning signs. Is your 08 A4 the old or new model?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭blacklilly


    There are no warning signs. Is your 08 A4 the old or new model?

    It's the new model


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    blacklilly wrote: »

    It's the new model
    Just as an aside, if it is that common can audi not forced to give some assistance towards fixing it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 beetle305


    Hi All, just came across this thread while searching for a heater problem. Bought an A4 avant new in 2005, 2.0 TDI facelift model. Still have it and use it every day. 206,000 miles, clutch/flywheel replaced, erg valve, intercooler hose and air con pump. 50+mpg and still going like a train. Listen for the noise my garage tells me regarding the oil pump, service it regularly, otherwise don't panic. It's a great car. Used to change cars every 3 years or so. This is my first Audi and it's some machine. Cannot see any reason to get rid of it. Peter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭Philip82


    clutch and flywheel??? notorious problem with those audis and volkswagons. First signs is you will feel abnormal shakes/vibrations coming up through your seat from under you. Expensive fix unfortunately. I had the SE 169hp version a few years back and as soon as this started happening I moved it on. But look on the bright side your car is perfect at the moment and it just might outlive you!!!!! Drive ur car man and enjoy it there will plenty solutions to any problems which may arise in the future, the very same as every other car ever made..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭jaybee747


    Hi George,Think my A6 has suffered from the failing oil pump.Do you do repairs in these and what's a ball park figure.
    I got a low oil pressure light come on, didn't stay on.Came on a second time followed by some knocking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Hi there,

    Yes we see lots of these in for both repairs and preventative maintenance.

    At a minimum you will now need the balance shaft repaired and in all probability the turbo is also damaged. Hopefully there is no engine damage.

    You are looking at a bill in the region of €1600 for the balance shaft repair and a turbo recon, that includes parts, labour and VAT.

    George


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 image1960


    There are no warning signs. Is your 08 A4 the old or new model?

    Hi George
    I'm looking at low milage 2009 or 2010 A4 or A6. Will the same problem arise in this generation please ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Anything 2009 or newer should be safe. We haven't seen any failures in anything newer than 2008. I am open to correction on that though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 image1960


    Anything 2009 or newer should be safe. We haven't seen any failures in anything newer than 2008. I am open to correction on that though.
    Thanks George
    I saw someone suggest that if the fog lights are round then it is not the new CR engine, while you suggest that the new rear lights style means it is the new one. I see many 2010 with the new rear cluster but round fog lights.
    Do you know the answer to this one please ?
    Regards
    Francis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    All B8 (2008->) shape A4s were CR. Any 2009 or newer A6 will have the CR engine to the best of my knowledge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,479 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    All face lifted A6s got the CR engines which arrived in late 2008, however there were a few pre face lifted A6s registered in early 2009 which would still have the older PD engines. The round fog lights on the A6 are exclusive to the S Line models. The regular SE models have rectangular shaped fog lights.


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