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€1.80 soft drinks... no thanks
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10-03-2012 1:15am#1
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For most pubs, the outlay is not worth it I'm told (another discussion on another forum on boards.ie).Halo Kitty wrote: »Is there a legal reason why pubs do not serve soft drinks from the tap...
That makes me feel oldi remember the days running down to the garage and getting a 500ml Diet coke & Mars kingsize for £1
But how about the mini cans of coke they sold for 30p ?0 -
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I thought food products weren't to be increased in VAT? convenience stores always take the complete p!ss
Only basic foodstuffs are VAT exempt. Drinks along with nearly everything else sold in a convenience store apart from the deli are considered a luxury item and are liable for VAT at the full rate.
Convenience stores are smaller operations - who don't enjoy the same economies of scale that a large supermarket site would, usually paying a middle man (musgraves or BWG etc) a percentage premium for their stock plus at times a percentage of their turnover to fund chain advertising, at other times paying a further 5-6% of turnover to their ultimate funder (a lot of Spar sites are financed by one individual in the background who effectively leases the sites to owner operators. In short the cost base is a hell of a lot higher hence the price differences.
When you're walking down the main street in your town on a hot day and fancy a bottle of coke you can of course get yourself to the nearest big supermarket or you can look at the extra 50 cent as money well spent to have that bottle of coke in your hand in 30 seconds time instead and go to the convenience store. That's how I look at it anyway.
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I remember when a can was 32p, a supercan was 50p, a marathon was 28p and Taytos were 12p
And away with your Starburst, they will always be Opal Fruits to me
Bought a bag of crisps in a pub recently. What the hell are Kings crisps, where are Taytos gone??
And the barman charged me 1.10, now that's inflation :eek:
Add me to that list of posters feeling old 0 -
I remember Tayto for 7p and peanuts for 5p.I remember when a can was 32p, a supercan was 50p, a marathon was 28p and Taytos were 12p
And away with your Starburst, they will always be Opal Fruits to me
Bought a bag of crisps in a pub recently. What the hell are Kings crisps, where are Taytos gone??
And the barman charged me 1.10, now that's inflation :eek:
And me to that list of posters feeling old0 -
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Pageant Messiah wrote: »Convenience stores are smaller operations - who don't enjoy the same economies of scale that a large supermarket site would, usually paying a middle man (musgraves or BWG etc) a percentage premium for their stock plus at times a percentage of their turnover to fund chain advertising, at other times paying a further 5-6% of turnover to their ultimate funder (a lot of Spar sites are financed by one individual in the background who effectively leases the sites to owner operators. In short the cost base is a hell of a lot higher hence the price differences.
When you're walking down the main street in your town on a hot day and fancy a bottle of coke you can of course get yourself to the nearest big supermarket or you can look at the extra 50 cent as money well spent to have that bottle of coke in your hand in 30 seconds time instead and go to the convenience store. That's how I look at it anyway.
This poster has it exactly right . , - plus of course the more the retailer can buy the cheaper it is .
Did you know that Tesco buy a full trailer-load of toilet roll at a time , whereas a convenience store cannot do this .0 -
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allthedoyles wrote: »This poster has it exactly right . , - plus of course the more the retailer can buy the cheaper it is .
Did you know that Tesco buy a full trailer-load of toilet roll at a time , whereas a convenience store cannot do this .
I guess that explains why most other 'convenience' stores around sell the same drinks for €1.50 then
I also know that a tray of coke bottles cost €10-€12 for 24 bottles
sold at even €1 makes a nice profit0 -
JustAddWater wrote: »allthedoyles wrote: »This poster has it exactly right . , - plus of course the more the retailer can buy the cheaper it is .
Did you know that Tesco buy a full trailer-load of toilet roll at a time , whereas a convenience store cannot do this .
I guess that explains why most other 'convenience' stores around sell the same drinks for €1.50 then
I also know that a tray of coke bottles cost €10-€12 for 24 bottles
sold at even €1 makes a nice profit
Where ??
Depending on where I get it I can get coke for €13.99 to €16.49 ex vat - ie add 23% to that cost price. If you know somewhere where you can get trays of coke bottles for a tenner vat in you could open a wholesalers yourself !0 -
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Pageant Messiah wrote: »Where ??
Depending on where I get it I can get coke for €13.99 to €16.49 ex vat - ie add 23% to that cost price. If you know somewhere where you can get trays of coke bottles for a tenner vat in you could open a wholesalers yourself !
You don't add VAT to cost price because it's offset when product sold at retail.
So cost price works out at 58c to 69c per bottle. Selling for €1.59 leaves the retailer with €1.29 per bottle after VAT is paid which is a nice margin on that one item.
The poster I was addressing quoted the cost price of a tray of coke as 10-12 euro and went on to mention a sale price of 1.00 euro. Since there was a sale price mentioned inclusive of vat it's reasonable to assume the cost price referred to was also vat inclusive. Even if it wasn't it's still a hell of a lot cheaper than the prices we pay at the moment.
As for the vat being offset its not as simple as that. Vat on the sale price includes vat on the margin the retailer has made on the product. But that's just me being pedantic
Coke is probably one of the worst examples to pick though as being an example of a typical product margin in a convenience store so all these figures are going to scream rip off taken out of context.0 -
These kind of shops are the kind of places that took advantage of the Vat increase.
I haven't been to the Spar in Ballsbridge in a couple of years - but I know that was the worst of the lot.
You have to search to find a can for 1euro or under. Many places 1.10 a pop now.
On a reminiscent note. I remember the green tint to the 500ml bottles when they came out first. And I recall the standard price was 69p 0 -
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