Fun of buying new car fading fast - 30 k budget Boards help please

wgk

Long story short, I now do a 600 km commute weekly and need to upgrade to a comfortable and reliable car.

Naeively, I thought getting rid of my own car would be the hardest part but I ended up shifting it in a week. I now am armed with cash (30k budget) but little time and finding it hard to get bang for my buck.

I am 24 so not looking for the old-man exec station wagon yet but having driven a 520d M (old E model) I must say I was sold! Other runner is Audi A5 but for my own (probably stupid) reasons I want a 2010 car at least.

I thought with the way things are generally, any garage or person looking to emigrate would bite my hand off but I dont seem to be getting anywhere, especially on the BMW front which I am more leaning to.

Any opinions or advice

artful_codger

Scirocco diesel. I'm very happy with mine and i do similar mileage.

scoobymunster

Your problem is your budgets to low. For 30K your really looking at 1 series BMWs if you dont want older than 2010. Youll have to come down the years if ya want a decent BMW or change to other marques. +1 to a scirocco

Chriscl1

My neighbour recently got a stunning 2010 diesel c class merc with amg rims and kit. I think they gave 28k from a dealer, got him down from 30k.

Just like this

Vanbis

wgk wrote: »

I must say I was sold! Other runner is Audi A5 but for my own (probably stupid) reasons I want a 2010 car at least.

What about an Audi A4 2.0ltr 2010 model, you'd easily pick one up with your budget?

bazz26

You could go against the grain and buy something a bit rarer, 30k might buy an 11 reg Volvo S60:


http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=4913292996979790

Or a Passat CC:

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201202206584056

vectra

2012

28.5k

mickdw

Regardless of model, I figure that Octavia is several devisions below what the OP is looking for.

vectra

mickdw wrote: »

Regardless of model, I figure that Octavia is several devisions below what the OP is looking for.

Possibly true.
But the OP also wants at least 2010.. What devisions above a new vrs with full warranty will he get there?

bazz26

There must be a new Octavia due anytime soon now, I would not bother with a "new" old type one at this stage to be honest.

gyppo

If you want a really comfy car for a commute, and are going to hold onto it for a good while, heres an option.
Buy it for 25k, and its a 2012...


http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=4813305360385990

ShaneMc2012

Have to say those new Volvo's are great looking, especially the S60 above but if i wanted a newish executive car for that sort of price it would have to be a Saab 9-3 like this one.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Saab/9-3/1.9TTID-/913275107915740/advert?channel=CARS

But seen as your only 24 I would say the new Mazda6 Sport would be perfect as a brand new one is under €30,000

wersal gummage

Prob a bit like the skoda (I.e. not a runner if you want a BMW) but you'd get a nice 2011 legacy for that money. Bit different. Just an idea.

Nok1a

As you are doing big miles dont buy a new one, in 2yrs you'll have 60k+ on it so itll have over average miles unfortunately its have taken a nice depreciation hit.

If you pick a 2011/2010 with low miles after 2yrs you could have average miles so less of a depn hit and easier to shift.

vectra

bazz26 wrote: »

There must be a new Octavia due anytime soon now, I would not bother with a "new" old type one at this stage to be honest.

New Octy is looking like early 2014

Nok1a wrote: »

As you are doing big miles dont buy a new one, in 2yrs you'll have 60k+ on it so itll have over average miles unfortunately its have taken a nice depreciation hit.

If you pick a 2011/2010 with low miles after 2yrs you could have average miles so less of a depn hit and easier to shift.

2 years and another 60k miles on something that possibly have big ( ish ) miles already.!
Think new
Think warranty
Think peace of mind :cool:

purplecoconut

OP good for you, get a fun car now while you're young and appreciate it. Personally I have a Nov 09 A5 2.0TDI. Love it to bits. Keep an eye on the north, great deals can be got up there, got mine plus VRT for just under 21k last summer

wgk

Thanks all the replies...laughing at myself here cos with the exception of the scoda and the scirocco (too small) I actually looked at all the marques and models mentioned.

Maybe just need to look at upping the budget cos I keep come back to an A5 or 520d M. :rolleyes:

maddness

OP your only 24. Leave the 5 series till your at least ten years older.
I'm not 24 but if I was i reckon a Golf GTi or anything else like it would be the job.
What about the new Astra GTC coupe?

wgk

maddness wrote: »

OP your only 24. Leave the 5 series till your at least ten years older.
I'm not 24 but if I was i reckon a Golf GTi or anything else like it would be the job.
What about the new Astra GTC coupe?

Know where you're coming from but hate small cars and usually bringing a lot of stuff with me so prefer something bigger.

RXMPS

maddness wrote: »

OP your only 24. Leave the 5 series till your at least ten years older.
I'm not 24 but if I was i reckon a Golf GTi or anything else like it would be the job.
What about the new Astra GTC coupe?

Exactly.

Audi A4, BMW 520D, Volvo S40, Mazda 6 diesel.

You don't have to spend 30k to get boring yoke's like them.

Your 24 OP.

If you want a boring yoke like an A4 diesel, buy a 07 one for 10k, exact same car and engine as the new one.

Alfa Romeo Giulietta Hatchback 1.4 TBI 170bhp 49mpg

JJJJNR

RXMPS wrote: »

you'd need a bit of space and comfort for that 600km, plus being 24 something to impress the ladies....link

Nok1a

Nok1a wrote: »

As you are doing big miles dont buy a new one, in 2yrs you'll have 60k+ on it so itll have over average miles unfortunately its have taken a nice depreciation hit.

If you pick a 2011/2010 with low miles after 2yrs you could have average miles so less of a depn hit and easier to shift.

vectra wrote: »

New Octy is looking like early 2014




2 years and another 60k miles on something that possibly have big ( ish ) miles already.!
Think new
Think warranty
Think peace of mind :cool:

Nok1a chap did specify buying a 2011/2010 with low miles
Such cars come with warranties and peace of mind and as he mentioned less of a depreciation hit. Buy new and through 60k miles on it over two years and it will be harder to shift as there will be many similar yokes about with less miles.

RXMPS

JJJJNR wrote: »

you'd need a bit of space and comfort for that 600km, plus being 24 something to impress the ladies....link

A driver seat, is a driver seat.

A big lump of steel like that Jag isn't automatically more comfortable than the Giulietta just because it's big.



Looks comfortable to me and that Jag looks fairly grubby btw, for his 30k he gets a brand new, fresh, cool little sport hatch with pace, handling and economy.

That Jag is 4 years old, grubby and unless he is a big strapping mature looking 24 year old, he look a bit odd in that yoke.

Northern Monkey

Would you get a 2010 E92 for that sort of money?

RXMPS

RXMPS wrote: »

A driver seat, is a driver seat.

A big lump of steel like that Jag isn't automatically more comfortable than the Giulietta just because it's big.



Looks comfortable to me and that Jag looks fairly grubby btw, for his 30k he gets a brand new, fresh, cool little sport hatch with pace, handling and economy...................

Are you seriously trying to argue that the Jag wouldn't be more comfortable than the Giulietta? There's more to comfort than the seat.

JJJJNR

RXMPS wrote: »

That Jag is 4 years old, grubby and unless he is a big strapping mature looking 24 year old, he look a bit odd in that yoke.

Grubby? are you looking at the same car, that is a seriously comfortable cruiser, and IMO a car that you would want to hold onto for a very long time, I'd say once you hit 2 years of ownership in the alfa you would want a change, esp doing that type of mileage.. That one I posted is a bit over budget but might be others around 30k.

JJJJNR

JJJJNR wrote: »

Grubby?..........

It could do with some pre sale work...

JJJJNR

We'll throw in a valet and an air freshener..

EPM

Bit of leather cleaner and a new mat and the jag looks pretty much showroom.

Carson10

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=413238562230960



Serious Car for the money, brand new. Very much a young guy looking car. This would definitely sell in a year or two even with high miles for still a strong price. Dont bother with those boring old man saloons that will only sell for about €10,000 in 2 years time.

Make: Volkswagen Model: Scirocco 2.0 TDI 140bhp (Sport Pack) Engine: 2.0 Diesel BodyType: Hatchback Transmission: Manual Price: €29,450 Year: 2012.

bazz26

I think the biggest question around the XF is if the OP is willing to pay €1k in motor tax p.a.?

RXMPS

RoverJames wrote: »

Are you seriously trying to argue that the Jag wouldn't be more comfortable than the Giulietta? There's more to comfort than the seat.

Are you trying to say the Giulietta isn't comfortable?

In your old age it might be difficult to get in and out, but the OP is 24.

Carson10

Carson10 wrote: »

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=413238562230960



Serious Car for the money, brand new. Very much a young guy looking car. ............

Am I alone in thinking the interior is fairly sh1t looking...



Fecking triangles and everything in there :eek:

unkel

bazz26 wrote: »

I think the biggest question around the XF is if the OP is willing to pay €1k in motor tax p.a.?

When you are shelling out €30k to buy the car in the first place? €1k motor tax is pocket money compared to that.

RXMPS

unkel wrote: »

When you are shelling out €30k to buy the car in the first place? €1k motor tax is pocket money compared to that.

True.

That Jag isn't going to be cheap to run.

It's almost 2000kg, does 37mpg and not exactly fast for a 2.7 turbo diesel.

A similar rival like a 520d beats it everywhere.

Much lighter, does almost 60mpg, 225e to tax, just as fast.

No brainer.

Carson10

RoverJames wrote: »

Am I alone in thinking the interior is fairly sh1t looking...



Fecking triangles and everything in there :eek:

least it wont smell of old man Pee like a jag and the leather would get a bit sweaty on long journeys!!

puzzle factory

heres a few within your budget on done deal
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2968033
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2887624
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3075241
and what id buy if i had 30000 laying around
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3061109

RoverJames

RoverJames wrote: »

Are you seriously trying to argue that the Jag wouldn't be more comfortable than the Giulietta? There's more to comfort than the seat.

RXMPS wrote: »

Are you trying to say the Giulietta isn't comfortable?

In your old age it might be difficult to get in and out, but the OP is 24.

Please explain where I suggested that the Alfa wasn't comfortable?

I simply asked were you thinking it would be as comfortable as the Jag, and also pointed out there is more to comfort than the actual seat

cozzie55

have you looked at a 3series coupe OP?

Nice car, good bit more space than a hatch, looks very good. I'm the same age as you and if I had that money to spend i'd definitely be looking at an A5 or a 3 series coupe.

I know this one is 09 but it comes in under to 30k, and has 2 year warranty. But i'm sure if you keep an eye out a 2010 mite pop up or a diesel one if thats what your after.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/320i-SE-/201206206917036/advert?channel=CARS

Have you tried asking a garage to try source a particular car for you, I know one or two garages that will try their best to source a car for people if they don't have one in stock. Worked for me with my car any way

Voodoomelon

wgk wrote: »

Know where you're coming from but hate small cars and usually bringing a lot of stuff with me so prefer something bigger.

Boom.

38mpg
http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/7-Series/BIG-SPEC/4913299995624890/advert?channel=CARS

39mpg
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3696948.htm

36mpg
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3680992.htm

40mpg
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/CLS-Class/CLS-320-/613238522032760/advert?channel=CARS

heate

The cls or the 3er coupe are probably the best recommendations.
A 320d or 325d would be perfect esp at 24 and the boot is bigger than you'd think.
A cls320 cdi or even the 350cgi(petrol but actually quite economical has a version of FSi r something) would be nice to have there's and 09 one for sale for less than €30k

Nok1a

RoverJames wrote: »

Nok1a chap did specify buying a 2011/2010 with low miles
Such cars come with warranties and peace of mind and as he mentioned less of a depreciation hit. Buy new and through 60k miles on it over two years and it will be harder to shift as there will be many similar yokes about with less miles.

Yes but so far he has been given suggestions like brand new Octavias and Mazda 6s so I'm just giving a reason to not to buy new that he might not have considered

Nok1a

Nok1a wrote: »

Yes but so far he has been given suggestions like brand new Octavias and Mazda 6s so I'm just giving a reason to not to buy new that he might not have considered

I was agreeing with you
Dropping the guts of €30K on either of those options wouldn't appeal to the OP at all I imagine.

td2008

If it was me I'd try get a 335 coupe
http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/335D-E92/201149206040696/advert?channel=CARS

-could drop a fair bit in value with the new 3 series coming out, and tax of course

GavMan

cozzie55 wrote: »

have you looked at a 3series coupe OP?

Nice car, good bit more space than a hatch, looks very good. I'm the same age as you and if I had that money to spend i'd definitely be looking at an A5 or a 3 series coupe.

I know this one is 09 but it comes in under to 30k, and has 2 year warranty. But i'm sure if you keep an eye out a 2010 mite pop up or a diesel one if thats what your after.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/320i-SE-/201206206917036/advert?channel=CARS

Have you tried asking a garage to try source a particular car for you, I know one or two garages that will try their best to source a car for people if they don't have one in stock. Worked for me with my car any way

You'd have to be out of your mind to buy that!!!

3 years old, ****e spec and 27K. Good lord

heate

GavMan wrote: »

cozzie55 wrote: »

have you looked at a 3series coupe OP?

Nice car, good bit more space than a hatch, looks very good. I'm the same age as you and if I had that money to spend i'd definitely be looking at an A5 or a 3 series coupe.

I know this one is 09 but it comes in under to 30k, and has 2 year warranty. But i'm sure if you keep an eye out a 2010 mite pop up or a diesel one if thats what your after.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/320i-SE-/201206206917036/advert?channel=CARS

Have you tried asking a garage to try source a particular car for you, I know one or two garages that will try their best to source a car for people if they don't have one in stock. Worked for me with my car any way

You'd have to be out of your mind to buy that!!!

3 years old, ****e spec and 27K. Good lord

Huh? What is it missing?

vectra

RoverJames wrote: »

I was agreeing with you
Dropping the guts of €30K on either of those options wouldn't appeal to the OP at all I imagine.

LOL
Bloody mind reader now are ya

wgk

wgk wrote: »

................

............ having driven a 520d M (old E model) I must say I was sold! Other runner is Audi A5 but for my own (probably stupid) reasons I want a 2010 car at least..................

wgk wrote: »

Thanks all the replies...laughing at myself here cos with the exception of the scoda and the scirocco (too small) I actually looked at all the marques and models mentioned.

Maybe just need to look at upping the budget cos I keep come back to an A5 or 520d M. :rolleyes:

vectra wrote: »

LOL
Bloody mind reader now are ya

Not at all, I got a B in the leaving for English and as I didn't know any poetry, hadn't learned any quotes from the Shakespeare and hadn't read the book in a year or so I can only conclude that my comprehension is very decent though

If someone really really fancies an A5 or a 520d an Octavia or a 6 won't tickle their fancy.

macjohn

wrote:

have you looked at a 3series coupe OP?

Nice car, good bit more space than a hatch, looks very good. I'm the same age as you and if I had that money to spend i'd definitely be looking at an A5 or a 3 series coupe.

I know this one is 09 but it comes in under to 30k, and has 2 year warranty. But i'm sure if you keep an eye out a 2010 mite pop up or a diesel one if thats what your after.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/320i-SE-/201206206917036/advert?channel=CARS

Have you tried asking a garage to try source a particular car for you, I know one or two garages that will try their best to source a car for people if they don't have one in stock. Worked for me with my car any way

GavMan wrote:

You'd have to be out of your mind to buy that!!!

3 years old, ****e spec and 27K. Good lord

heate wrote: »

Huh? What is it missing?

To be fair not a bad spec, the e92 comes as standard with a better spec than e90
IIRC xenons are standard on the e92 of that age.
The car in question doesn't have idrive which is nice to have but loads of e92s in Ireland dont have it. Usually debate should you go for auto or manual in these, which is prob a personal choice
It doesnt seem to have heated seats/fold mirrors which are more important to some than others. Has the standard rear sensors but not the front which are an extra.
Reasonably standard e92 - couldnot describe it as bad as a previous poster.
Loads of people if had the money would be delighted to drive it.

bazz26

unkel wrote: »

When you are shelling out €30k to buy the car in the first place? €1k motor tax is pocket money compared to that.

My point is that the OP has been talking about 2.0 diesel cars that cost generally cost €160/225 to tax. I get the impression that the Jag in 2.7d form will not be on the shopping list and the 3.0d is outside of budget.