The Killing Season 2 AMC **Spoilers**

don ramo

wake up wake up your favourite show is coming back soon



http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/03/02/amcs-new-ad-campaign-for-the-killing-teases-a-season-filled-with-new-mysteries-and-answers-exclusive/

smart idea keeping the tagline a bit more vauge this season:p,

anyway i think it should be interesting where their gonna go from where it left off, im disapointed their gonna drag out rosies case for most of the second season, but i assume their still going ahead with opening a second case while their still working on rosies,

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

dear god no

deisedude

I liked it until the season finale which pissed me off so much i don't know will I watch the new season

don ramo

deisedude wrote: »

I liked it until the season finale which pissed me off so much i don't know will I watch the new season

well if you liked 11 outta 12 i would think the answear is yes, i thought season 1 was very good maybe a bit slow at times but that seems to be becoming a common problem with some TV shows,

i never really jumped on the bandwagon of rosies case not being solved, some people wanted it to be a self contained series (like dexter), i like that its a rolling series, one leading into next,

red dave

don ramo wrote: »

deisedude wrote: »

I liked it until the season finale which pissed me off so much i don't know will I watch the new season

well if you liked 11 outta 12 i would think the answear is yes, i thought season 1 was very good maybe a bit slow at times but that seems to be becoming a common problem with some TV shows,

i never really jumped on the bandwagon of rosies case not being solved, some people wanted it to be a self contained series (like dexter), i like that its a rolling series, one leading into next,

In fairness though it was marketed by the network as though the killer would be revealed at the end of season...it didn't happen.

Never been so annoyed and disappointed at the end of a season as with this. I have no problem reading spoilers of any series I watch so will not watch this until I know this series ends in a different way to the first.

mikemac1

I was furious with how the writers finished season one

I'm not dying to see Season Two, might give it a miss and wait until it's over

It was a good show, some very slow episodes and then some excellent ones.

But that wasn't a cliffhanger ending like maybe Jack Bauer walking into a room and being captured by the Chinese at the end Season Five and you're waiting for the next season impatiently.

The writers of The Killing just managed to annoy their viewers.

red dave

mikemac1 wrote: »

I was furious with how the writers finished season one

I'm not dying to see Season Two, might give it a miss and wait until it's over

It was a good show, some very slow episodes and then some excellent ones.

But that wasn't a cliffhanger ending like maybe Jack Bauer walking into a room and being captured by the Chinese at the end Season Five and you're waiting for the next season impatiently.

The writers of The Killing just managed to annoy their viewers.

Agree totally with you.

Gerty

don ramo wrote: »

well if you liked 11 outta 12 i would think the answear is yes, i thought season 1 was very good maybe a bit slow at times but that seems to be becoming a common problem with some TV shows,

i never really jumped on the bandwagon of rosies case not being solved, some people wanted it to be a self contained series (like dexter), i like that its a rolling series, one leading into next,

That ****e that they pulled with Holder in the finale pissed me off more than not solving the murder to be honest.

Up until that point, he was a brilliant character.

don ramo

Gerty wrote: »

That ****e that they pulled with Holder in the finale pissed me off more than not solving the murder to be honest.

Up until that point, he was a brilliant character.

what did they pull, it looked like he was under someones thumb for a while, if anything he done the right thing giving her ID instead of his, that way hed just look stupid,

Richard Dower

I refuse to watch season 2, no show EVER has angered me more then this....Veena Sud is a hack, and i refuse to watch her bait and switch each week.

Also...the murder of Rosie won't be revealed until the END of season 2!, you wanna hang around for 13 episodes for an answer?....hell to the NO!

deisedude

I'm going to wait until the end of the season and read the reviews before watching. Such a blatant disregard for the viewer with that ****e ending in the first season doesn't make up for the few episodes it was excellent

Tipsy McSwagger

They can shove it up their hole

don ramo

cool see ye all in 17 weeks, in the mean time ill just chat away with myself :D:D:D

wandatowell

season 1 was very hit and miss. Well miss is harsh. Some episodes was just boring.

I'll happily wait for the season to complete and watch them all over the course of a week or two

The Black Oil

30 second promo. I was somewhat on the fence about carrying on, and seeing the female lead again, I don't feel terribly inspired, but I might just check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajKCQuxJgHg

Richard Dower

^ i don't belive AMC or there promo dept. - look how much they deliberately mislead and lied to people throughout season 1?, i'm refusing to watch on principle....because of AMC and because Venna Sud has used the backlash to claim it's racist....no love!, people just think you're a hack and your tricks of bait and switch have made people loathe you and the show!

+ to try get a third season and to try keep people watching they announce Rosie's killer won't be revealed until the end of season 2!, disgusting....and no doubt the S1 finale end will be undone, as in the guy with the gun who's gonna shoot the councillor will obviously be stopped, Holden will be redeamed etc.

Just shoddy writing all round....wait and see!!!!!!!.........

Conor108

If I was going to watch this again I'd start with the season 2 finale to skip all the red herrings and be just as in the loop as anyone.

Shryke

I didn't realise there was a fuss over Season 1. I didn't hate it but I thought it fell apart a fair bit. It's like they intended to reveal the killer the whole way up to the end and then had a last minute change of heart and cobbled together some vague scenes that they could expound on later because they really weren't sure what they were doing at that stage.

The Black Oil

Racist? What now? I wouldn't blame Sud for some/most of the marketing, really. Some of the internet reaction to last season was a bit OTT. Part of it seemed to come from those who simply didn't like the setup.

Nonoperational

Thought I was alone is being absolutely disgusted with the ending to season 1. Looking at the preview clip for season 2 I'm not too inspired but I'll give it a go again. Never so annoyed with a TV series than with the ending to it. Nearly threw the laptop out the window...

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

hah
take a look at the thread for the killing season 1 on this forum. quite a few of us turning up like abused partners week after week posting "why do we keep watching this, why are they doing this to us.. they said they loved me"

don ramo

gpf101 wrote: »

Nearly threw the laptop out the window...

ya they say the first cliffhanger is the worst:rolleyes:

TBF everyone i know thats not keeping up with the on-line aspect of this show had no problem with the show having a cliffhanger as its a very common practise on TV for i dunno, the past 50 years,

TBH i would have prefered the case was resolved, but it didnt really bother me so much that i would harm myself or any inanimate objects within reach:cool::pac::pac::pac:,

Nonoperational

don ramo wrote: »

ya they say the first cliffhanger is the worst:rolleyes:

TBF everyone i know thats not keeping up with the on-line aspect of this show had no problem with the show having a cliffhanger as its a very common practise on TV for i dunno, the past 50 years,

TBH i would have prefered the case was resolved, but it didnt really bother me so much that i would harm myself or any inanimate objects within reach:cool::pac::pac::pac:,

It wasn't the cliffhanger that bothered me. It's hard to explain but I just found it a very disappointing ending.

Richard Dower

gpf101 wrote: »

It wasn't the cliffhanger that bothered me. It's hard to explain but I just found it a very disappointing ending.

The endless bait and switch...the fact that after episode 3 it was total shiite....but me like many hung in there until episode 13 waiting for the reveal of who killed Rosie.

That was all people stuck with the show for, and then...... :mad:
They suckered us, won't get fooled again.

The Black Oil

A couple of build up clips doing the rounds.

Cast talk about season 2

Sneak peak from the first episode.

More yapping from the cast.

kevohmsford

I will probably still watch the new season are there is not much else on at the moment. It could have been a class show but some of the episodes were pretty drawn out. If I wait till the end of the season and it gets bad review I might never watch it so may as well stick with it. Hopefully they will wrap it up this season and we will actually find out what happened to Rosie.
It could turn into another 'How I Met Your Mother'.

dubmick

I haven't seen any uk channel advertising it. Anyone know if it is being shown soon? Think channel 4 had the first season

The Black Oil

Yeah, they showed it from July last year, so I presume we'll be waiting a while for it to hit screens over here.

The Black Oil

I think that's because it finished in last June and presumably C4 had to hang on before showing it.

And we're back. Spoilers to follow. I still think that, overall, it's a bit overwrought. I do like most its atmosphere though.

2.01 & 2.02 (US/AMC)

Characters I had most empathy for - Stan Larsen in part 1, Linden in part 2. I liked her going around on her own, getting the phone number from the NA meeting, etc. How competent she'll be in later episodes is another matter. I can't see Holder lasting the full season.

Lack of Michelle Forbes, boo. Great to see ‪Sofie Gråbøl‬, quite strange to see her do a full scene in English! American TV shows and post trauma/shooting situations, they can do it well, or not so good (hello, Jamie's fight at the gym and how the paralysis news was disclosed seemed brutally short, but maybe that's simply realistic). I felt Richmond's suicide attempt disclosure was pretty well done. Belko's death wasn't a surprise and nothing more than a creative shortcut, really. A decent enough start, some mixed notes...I'm cautiously optimistic, though not so much that it won't get bogged down in drudgery.

It's been compared (a review I read) to The Wire for its scope, which I'm not really seeing, but then the original was also compared to that show and almost everything is these days.

Kur4mA

I read the synopsis for the first 2 episodes of Season 2 and then literally did this.

http://api.ning.com/files/KiCyo4bFYyHWjXWur46o8-5lyWVmHHfvnpcXphy-1uLk5JMcPBNMUq0bR2jstUVL2RLkMzkIJdygWuD2IG7o9WuysAdHME3x/the_complet_collection_of_rage_faces_09.jpg

F*CK THAT! No way I'm going near this after the 1st season.

trendy88

I loved the first 2 episodes. Its a good series even if they did screw us over last season.

kevohmsford

The new episode was pretty decent, nothing special though. Hopefully it will pick up over the next few episodes.

Richard Dower

I see it tanked in the ratings....wlll deserved, fool me once.....

The Black Oil

So, are you going to keep posting here to knock it even though you're not going to watch?

mrkite77

Honestly I don't understand how people were surprised that we didn't find Rosie's killer in season 1. It's *exactly* how it was done with the original. The original was 2 seasons of 10 episodes each... and the killer wasn't revealed until the end of season 2.

expectationlost

mrkite77 wrote: »

Honestly I don't understand how people were surprised that we didn't find Rosie's killer in season 1. It's *exactly* how it was done with the original. The original was 2 seasons of 10 episodes each... and the killer wasn't revealed until the end of season 2.

because you think in the american version we'll find out at the end of season 2?

Kylo Ren

I'll probably wait till all of season 2 is out and then plow through them. I did the same with season 1. I enjoyed the first season and wasn't as pissed off as everyone else was with the ending, maybe because I didn't wait every week for a new episode.

Gummy Panda

Was the Danish version better paced or written?

I only watched the US version

The Black Oil

The original's a better show, yes.

The Black Oil

Decent enough third episode. Kept things ticking over.

2.03

So, Mitch Larsen is back, though without much to do. Was she seeing Rosie or another online escort who was at the side of the road or at the swimming pool near the end?

I did laugh when Holder started speaking gangsta to the young kid and the kid say fo' sure back. Christ knows the show could do with the odd burst of humour. Holder could have messed up here and they were making it so his head wasn't straight, which is either in pursuit of the viewer's empathy or loathing depending on your preference. They couldn't keep him and Linden apart forever, so is he really back on side now?

If Gwen is gone that's no great loss as she doesn't really add anything to the show. Am guessing she won't go completely due to her connection to Darren/the councilman. Am thinking himself, Stan Larsen and Linden were the most grounded people in this one perhaps, though each with possible ways of messing up. If Darren's back on his feet next week, well, that's just a bit of a stretch. Obviously the mafia guy lied to Stan re the online escort service and Rosie. Interesting catch by Linden's son re the comic book art/tattoo. When she said she couldn't open the attachment I honestly thought it was going to be some file that would screw up her machine, but least she got the footage and I liked how her son was able to use the cooker. So, the death of Belko last week and now the fire, obviously they're gonna keep up the 'whoever's behind this is one step ahead' routine, which is not unexpected.

The Black Oil

2.04

This one had a few funny notes - the Columbo reference, 1800 LINDEN, Holden trying on the glasses of the FBI guy, I actually thought that was Peter Berg for a second. I'm hoping the FBI won't be messed up in this in a corrupt way or something.

I was thinking the political stuff was a bit detached, say compared to the original, they pulled it back into focus a little here with Jamie and Darren's confrontation, I'd still kinda prefer if it we were seeing a bit more of the inner workings of the political circles being somehow linked to the murder. What was that cufflink the Mayor had on - City/Seal of Seattle?

So, the mafia guy is the father of the current 'suspect', the kid with the tattoo, right? Stan Larsen's doing his bit to be Father of the Year. Btw, what was that stuff he found in the van after finding the chemicals? Now we know why Tommy's been acting up, still, strop away, eh?

Not sure on the scene near the end where the partner of the guy Stan shot turned up at his door - seemed a little unnecessary. Also, thus far the red herrings aren't too bad.

Maybe I'm going a little easy on this one.

mrkite77

The Black Oil wrote: »

So, the mafia guy is the father of the current 'suspect', the kid with the tattoo, right?

No, the father of the guy with the tattoo is the guy Stan killed and put in a trunk.

The Black Oil

Thanks.

Anyone else watching?

Sort of conflicted on this one. Reasonable effort, but still feel a little more diversionary than genuine plot progression. Some scenes were a little too brief and compressed to be effective and were...sterile, I think. Time constraints. You can of course, still take away that 'they are getting closer', but rationally, and from last year, we know they're not.

2.05

Sweating Alexi, the tattoo kid, in the box was never going to work. From the later scene in the car, he's probably going to end up being killed off, right? Thought it a little odd that earlier Holden was cautioning Linden about checking the burn phone given his own evidence tampering shenanigans. Can brush that aside. Linden's superior should have more to do than bureaucratic interference.

Slight PTSD vibe from the councilman, still caught up in trauma. Jamie had to come with an 'up and at 'em' type speech. No real issues there as they need to bring the politics back into the fold or else moping in the hospital bed will get tiresome. I was expecting a media pack to pounce on Darren soon after he got into the lift in his wheelchair, thankfully no such event happened, but I'm sure we'll see one soon.

I can't remember anything about Linden's ex partner from last year, but his appearance was an inevitable consequence of her phone only relationship with her son. Mitch in redemption/searching mode with that young girl, is that what that's about? I think they could have stretched that out more even if she didn't want to talk about Rosie.

Could do without Stan and aunt Terri getting it on, tbh. Way too obvious from the 'this is how America does TV' book unless there's something similar in the original. Though, I have to admit, any previous hints of this happening/being suggested went way over my head. Odd that her dad would quiz her about her love life after the family meeting, seemed a little tacked on.

Not so much humour this week. Nice Falling Down ref and I would laugh if Holder was an Algebra nut.

Kiwi_knock

This season has been pretty poor. The Stan and Terry plot is a bit unnecessary, I found it obvious over the last few episodes that there was something between them but bringing in her parents to confirm it was completely unnecessary. The Linden and her son stoyline is not really interesting at this moment either. Still no closer to the killer, at least they have cut out the whole suspect a episode bit. The only thing I think i good about the show now is the scenes with Jamie and Darren, be interesting to see them back in the race now.

ejmaztec

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

This season has been pretty poor. The Stan and Terry plot is a bit unnecessary, I found it obvious over the last few episodes that there was something between them but bringing in her parents to confirm it was completely unnecessary. The Linden and her son stoyline is not really interesting at this moment either. Still no closer to the killer, at least they have cut out the whole suspect a episode bit. The only thing I think i good about the show now is the scenes with Jamie and Darren, be interesting to see them back in the race now.

I find the fast forward button quite handy in those two situations. Their private lives don't interest me in the slightest.

The Black Oil

2.06

I don't know if it was the file or the production, but the opening scene in the car was so effin' dark. So, Gwen's back - yawn. The scene with her dad was weird/creepy.

The girl staying with Mitch was bound to steal stuff. Linden/Holder's superior is still blocking warrants.

Still generally keeping the conspiracy angle ticking over.

But ya know, this is the way of these things. The slow drudgery of police work.

Once again, the AV Club weren't too impressed with this one, though I think sometimes what's in the comments section is actually fairer than the reviews.

The Black Oil

2.07

Hmm, I'm hovering over labelling this one as being a little fillery which may be unfair. There were a few bits that stretch credibility a little, but I think you can let those slide. More at issue - the political shenanigans. I can believe that the Richmond campaign would do anything to get Stan Larsen's support, but I just didn't buy how Stan did a 180 after Darren came along with a personal apology. From that moment on it was inevitable that he would show up at the press conference and I don't mean it can't happen, but as a piece of writing, I didn't like it too much. Also, Stan's knocking back the beers a bit, eh? I feel a bit sorry for the guy playing him as he's being given some fairly ropey dialogue to work with. Also, the hospital as a staging post for a press conference, posters and all...nope.

I liked the mini confrontation between Linden and Holder re her parenting skills, but I thought they could have made that scene a little longer. He could at least have offered some sort of false hope and told her that she's not a crappy parent. Presumably it's someone in the police department, or someone with connections, that called the child protection services. Foolish for her and Jack to run.

So we're at the midway point now - I'm too invested to ditch it. The whole Indian burial ground/we police our own thing is obviously there to make us think we're getting closer to the final answer, but it won't. Enjoyed Holder's antics in getting around the casino and there was the odd note of humour here again.

Still missing Mitch - Michelle Forbes.

Kiwi_knock

This season has been a massive let down for me, the Rosie storyline has gotten stale. Stan and Mitch had some greats scenes in the first series, but am really bored by them this season. At this stage I hope that Linden gets her kid taken off her. The only thing interesting now is the Richmond campaign. Hopefully the show picks up next week with the aftermath of Holder's beating.

claiva

Did anyone see next weeks preview ?
Did it make out like Holder had been killed ?
If he's dead I'll be seriously peed off !!!
I love him, he's the best thing about the show.

I can't help but feel he may be killed off though as the season needs a bit of
a jolt

The Black Oil

I don't think they will. It would be too much of a distraction and would probably involve more grief and funeral scenes which they probably don't want to do to avoid taking away from the main story. A more minor character might die, I reckon.

The Black Oil

2.08

This was a better episode. It's a little late in game now - if they had this standard from the start it would have improved the quality of episodes we've seen up to this point. Some human moments that worked pretty well. It's a strength that they can take the time to do that, or rather, execute it well. I think before it seemed a bit laboured, but it worked here. The search for Holder didn't drag on. Yes, he recovery was pretty quick, but his scene with the young kid was fun. His nephew, I think.

The professional and personal cost of the investigation is being felt more intensely now. Also, why was Lt. Carlson holding things up again?

I don't fully understand chief Jackson's motivation apart from hiding things, greed/money and maybe some political favours, what else is motivating her? I'm assuming there's still some red herring in there, mind. The scene between Stan Larsen was going too well - bam lunatic psychic lady.