EU Licences confirmed for 19th January 2013 - Same Design as Finland

eqwjewoiujqorj

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0229/licence.html

I wonder how much the photo renewal will cost (every 10 years?)






I think RTÉ did that mock up, using a Finnish licence.
They just changed the name to Mary Murphy and put Eire/Ireland, Ceadúndas Tiomána Driving Licence on the top.

All the EU licences look similar.

Ours will look very similar to the Finnish one, here's a better idea of what it will look like:

Finland:



Austria:



Norway:



Sweden:



Denmark:



Italy:



Czech Republic:



Netherlands:

<snip>
UK:





Lithuania:



Germany:



Latvia:



Hungary:




And of course the famous Prawo Jazdy
http://i.imgur.com/ffhQM.jpg

Big Nasty

About fcukin' time!

Now we won't look so silly renting a car abroad.

Random

i watched the rte clip on their website
there is no mention of a counterpart license like the uk have
it seems all the info is on the barcode / rfid
am i understanding it right?

MugMugs

Horrrray! I'm up for renewal in may 13 aswell.

eqwjewoiujqorj

Just reading online about the Finnish licence;

atm they don't have to be renewed but this might change to every 15 years because of EU rules:

http://www.finlandforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=58567

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lvm.fi%2Fweb%2Ffi%2Ftiedote%2F%2F-%2Fview%2F1162770

jimgoose

I like the old, faux-leather wallet licenses. They were a
good deal more elegant than the current yokes, which
remind me of the school bus tickets I used to have as a Gosling.

These new card jobbies are a bit too Kennkarte for my liking.

MCMLXXV wrote: »

About fcukin' time!

Now we won't look so silly renting a car abroad.

I've never looked (or felt) silly renting a car or motorcycle abroad.

CiniO

Random wrote: »

i watched the rte clip on their website
there is no mention of a counterpart license like the uk have
it seems all the info is on the barcode / rfid
am i understanding it right?

What info?
All info (name, address, DOB, licence categories, etc) will be written on licence like it is now.

eqwjewoiujqorj

It looks like we won't have the drivers address on the licence;

what do people think of this?

It will make it less handy for id, eg opening a bank account.

MugMugs

eqwjewoiujqorj wrote: »

It looks like we won't have the drivers address on the licence;

what do people think of this?

It will make it less handy for id, eg opening a bank account.

Nor does a passport yet that still works along with a utility bill. It's a good move OP. And its about time too!

Northern Monkey

Looks pretty much the same as my UK licence.

patwicklow

My licence expires 2017 so does this mean i will have to pay again or wait till 2017

emanresu

eqwjewoiujqorj wrote: »

It looks like we won't have the drivers address on the licence;

what do people think of this?

It will make it less handy for id, eg opening a bank account.

The address on a driving licence could be years out of date.
A passport or driving licence is used for photo id,
a recent utility bill or official letter is used for proof of address.

Atlantic Dawn

Looks like she's a Transam, says M at the bottom yet appears to be a female in the picture.

ardmacha

They need a couple of other things/

• An EU wide licence numbering scheme for points and the like.
• If an address appears, that people are obliged to update this information.

CiniO

ardmacha wrote: »

They need a couple of other things/

• An EU wide licence numbering scheme for points and the like.

Licence numbering is a very little problem in realtion to points, as opposed to actually unifying penalty points system in EU.
At the moment every country has different penalties policy, and they are all different.

Our man in Havana

2055? Are these going to be lifetime licences?

Voodoomelon

patwicklow wrote: »

My licence expires 2017 so does this mean i will have to pay again or wait till 2017

Pay again. I'll gladly pay to get rid of the shíte I have.

emanresu

Apparently in Finland, they are valid until the 70th birthday
(but that is going to change because of EU rules).
That is an altered image of a Finnish licence.

Guy:Incognito

"Later versions of the card are likely to include a micro-chip which could be used to store other information"

So they are already outdated? Why not put the effort in and include the chip now, even if it stays blank for the first few years?

eqwjewoiujqorj

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Looks like she's a Transam, says M at the bottom yet appears to be a female in the picture.

If they use Irish it will be 'F' for men (Fireann / fireannach) and 'B' for Women (Ban).

Perhaps they should use toilet symbols

Guy:Incognito

eqwjewoiujqorj wrote: »

If they use Irish it will be 'F' for men (Fireann / fireannach) and 'B' for Women (Ban).

Perhaps they should use toilet symbols

Perhaps they should just have it all in english and not have to double up on everything (yes I know about the stupid law).

racer1

If everyone is made to update to these licences it will get rid of all the fake ones out there.....

Ellis Dee

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Perhaps they should just have it all in english and not have to double up on everything (yes I know about the stupid law).

Even a Finnish licence has Ceadúnas Tiomána on it, so I suppose it's not entirely unreasonable for those of us who still have some vestige of national pride left and have not descended into the deepest abyss of West Britishness to expect an Irish one to have some Irish on it.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

See here on the right just above the date 10.01.2055 (which is the expiry date, the bearer's 70th birthday):

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iI0OkO4qfb4/TpdHo3_WhJI/AAAAAAAABD0/3_5MkI26hsw/s1600/Ajokortti2a.jpg

The Finnish driving licence on which the Irish one is supposedly modelled is bilingual (Ajokortti is Finnish and Körkort Swedish).:):)

Guy:Incognito

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Even a Finnish licence has Ceadúnas Tiomána on it,

Even goign by the tone of the rest of the post, I'll assume thats a joke, yeah?

Ellis Dee wrote: »

so I suppose it's not entirely unreasonable for those of us who still have some vestige of national pride left and have not descended into the deepest abyss of West Britishness to expect an Irish one to have some Irish on it.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Seriously? the lowest common denominator response? and a roll eyes to boot.

Mikko Mallikas

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellis Dee
Even a Finnish licence has Ceadúnas Tiomána on it,

Even goign by the tone of the rest of the post, I'll assume thats a joke, yeah?

Yes it does, along with "driving licence" in another 11 languages, The number under the picture is your Finnish social security number and it used for everything, it is combined of date of birth (ddmmyy) -(20th century) random 3 numbers ( even for females and odd for males) and 1 letter ( don't know how it is chosen) and is valid till 70, I have one.

Guy:Incognito

Mikko Mallikas wrote: »

Yes it does, along with "driving licence" in another 11 languages, .

I was referreing to the header. Possibly should have been clearer. Old ones had it in plenty of languages too (passports aswell iirc)

Point is, on a small card like that, usefull information should take priority over doubling upon languages.

Mikko Mallikas

You´re right the heading is only in Finnish and Swedish, the 2 official languages of Finland. It is very plain, simple and clear, like all Finnish design.

Guy:Incognito

Mikko Mallikas wrote: »

It is very plain, simple and clear, like all Finnish design.

Maybe thats why they dont make cars.

Though they'd probably be quite successfull with the way things are going.

Marcusm

emanresu wrote: »

The address on a driving licence could be years out of date.
A passport or driving licence is used for photo id,
a recent utility bill or official letter is used for proof of address.

Not if you follow the law and have it updated when you change address (for those countries where it's included)!

eqwjewoiujqorj

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I was referreing to the header. Possibly should have been clearer. Old ones had it in plenty of languages too (passports aswell iirc)

Point is, on a small card like that, usefull information should take priority over doubling upon languages.

There's very little language on these cards, mainly numbers / codes.

Brian

If I get a full licence before the end of the year, can I "lose" it and opt to get one of these guys?

edit:

Once this new form of licence is introduced, the old paper style will no longer be issued, but they will be still valid. However any driver can trade in their old model for the new one before their renewal date for a fee which has yet to be decided.

o/

racer1

racer1 wrote: »

If everyone is made to update to these licences it will get rid of all the fake ones out there.....

... yeah, and the new type are impossible to fake too...............

challengemaster

Looks like a piece of ****e, I could make a better one in my sleep.

Guy:Incognito

challengemaster wrote: »

Looks like a piece of ****e, I could make a better one in my sleep.

Carefull you dont anger the finns.

heate

I imagine the final draft will cost both €100m in consultants fees and €1 in graphic design ehm Leap Card anyone.
I do agree with the card as a concept though it's about time the Irish licence can be kept in a wallet like a credit card the current format is awkward.
As for those with existing 10 year licences that don't expire until 2022 I'd assume you can just trade in if you choose.

As for the suggestion of a Europe wide system for exchange of penalty points. Wtf so if I speed in Germany the Irish gov is going to give me points? How is that legal or fair?

Mr Simpson

They should put your PPSN on it, it would be a handy way of tying a Person to their licence.

Rich11

hold on that cant be right, 19th of january 2013, cause i thought the world ended in december 2012


:D:D

Our man in Havana

mmcn90 wrote: »

They should put your PPSN on it, it would be a handy way of tying a Person to their licence.

Only if you choose to yourself. Many countries give the option to leave the personal number off the licence.

Wolverine_1999

They are saying penalty points can also be displayed on the license.. so whenever you get or lose points you have to get a new license?

Oh the ways of thinking in this country..

flyingsnail

patwicklow wrote: »

My licence expires 2017 so does this mean i will have to pay again or wait till 2017

You can upgrade to the new licence style for a fee. They have not yet decided what that fee will be.

Pataman

And by 2060 they will arm the guards with the necessary equipment to electronically read the licences at the roadside.

smash

Wolverine_1999 wrote: »

They are saying penalty points can also be displayed on the license.. so whenever you get or lose points you have to get a new license?

Oh the ways of thinking in this country..

Well we got to make money for the outsourcing company! Morons in office! :rolleyes:

Big Nasty

Pataman wrote: »

And by 2060 they will arm the guards with the necessary equipment to electronically read the licences at the roadside.

I'll bet they get SCMODS

Mr Simpson

Our man in Havana wrote: »

mmcn90 wrote: »

They should put your PPSN on it, it would be a handy way of tying a Person to their licence.

Only if you choose to yourself. Many countries give the option to leave the personal number off the licence.

Yep, I'd agree with that, but, even if it's not printed, I think it should be in the database for the licences, similar to passports.

Our man in Havana

Well, they already have that as you need to supply your PPS when getting a licence.

Mr Simpson

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Well, they already have that as you need to supply your PPS when getting a licence.

Oh, didn't realise that, it's been a while since I applied for my licence.

conzy

challengemaster wrote: »

Looks like a piece of ****e, I could make a better one in my sleep.

I was just thinking that, what a disgraceful looking yoke! Even the garda age card is better looking and its around years

eqwjewoiujqorj

conzymaher wrote: »

I was just thinking that, what a disgraceful looking yoke! Even the garda age card is better looking and its around years

I think RTÉ did that mock up, using a Finnish licence.
They just changed the name to Mary Murphy and put Eire/Ireland, Ceadúndas Tiomána Driving Licence on the top.

All the EU licences look similar.

Ours will look very similar to the Finnish one, here's a better idea of what it will look like:

Finland:



Austria:



Norway:



Sweden:



Denmark:



Italy:



Czech Republic:



Netherlands:



UK:





Lithuania:



Germany:



Latvia:



Hungary:



And of course the famous Prawo Jazdy

Guy:Incognito

The Austrian one looks like its got a stain on it from getting wet

FGR

The Austrian and Italian ones look the best of the above.

Wouldn't mind the style that many US States use though:

eqwjewoiujqorj

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I was referreing to the header. Possibly should have been clearer. Old ones had it in plenty of languages too (passports aswell iirc)

Point is, on a small card like that, usefull information should take priority over doubling upon languages.

The Swiss manage to get 5 languages on their licence