Luas F line

stoneill

The proposed Luas F line to Lucan - what's the latest with that?

dowlingm

http://www.rpa.ie/en/projects/luas_lucan/Pages/default.aspx

stoneill

Yeah - OK - so can you dumb it down a bit and explain what that is telling me?

Typewriter

stoneill wrote: »

Yeah - OK - so can you dumb it down a bit and explain what that is telling me?

stoneill

Typewriter wrote: »

That's what I thought.

Jehuty42

What's the general consensus on the route though? If money were available, should it be built as shown? http://www.rpa.ie/Maps/Luas%20Line%20F/LuasLineFMapV2%20201008.jpg

cgcsb

IMO the route is ridiculous, it doesn't serve the centre of lucan village, there's way too many twists and turns through suburban sprawl. Sharing track with red line trams is bound to cause a capacity issue and the odds of getting the luas through lord edward st, slim I'd say.

LXFlyer

Why would it serve Lucan Village?

The principal population centres of Lucan are all south of the N4 and that's where the route is designed to serve.

cgcsb

I was going to say something very naive there about encouraging urban sprawl, but sure never mind.

LXFlyer

Unfortunately that sprawl is already there!!

L1011

Lucan Village is underpopulated and the hill might challenge the trams.

Heroditas

MYOB wrote: »

Lucan Village is underpopulated and the hill might challenge the trams.

Didn't the trams go up the hill in "ye olde days"?

Apart from that, I shall put on my "IMBY" hat and say that the route looks fantastic if I'm still living in the area in 40 years time and they actually get around to building it. Two of the stops will be a stone's throw away from me.

cgcsb

total journey time of 50minutes :-(

L1011

Heroditas wrote: »

Didn't the trams go up the hill in "ye olde days"?

They did, but seeing as its known for eventually causing damage to buses (it and Dalkey being routes that cause the "roaring engines" on ALX400s) I'd be rather worried that it'd eventually stress the Citadis units badly too.

average_runner

Luas to lucan would be a disaster. Look what it did for people on the red line out near kingswood and kilnamangh.

Bus service has dropped and luas takes longer to get into town.

Same for the Lucan one, it would take too long to get to town. We have decent bus service and lets not destroy that.

Lucan is a great spot in fairness with facilities out there, there is always something to do, loads of gaa and soccer pitches, big parks, running tracks, cycle lanes, tennis courts, skating centres.

Cool Mo D

average_runner wrote: »

Luas to lucan would be a disaster. Look what it did for people on the red line out near kingswood and kilnamangh.

Bus service has dropped and luas takes longer to get into town.

Same for the Lucan one, it would take too long to get to town. We have decent bus service and lets not destroy that.

Lucan is a great spot in fairness with facilities out there, there is always something to do, loads of gaa and soccer pitches, big parks, running tracks, cycle lanes, tennis courts, skating centres.

Maybe the Luas takes longer off peak, but if you've tried to use a bus service from Tallaght to town in the morning, it will easily be more than an hour, while the Luas is 40 minutes, and more importantly, is reliable. You'll never be waiting 40 minutes for a Luas, unlike any Tallaght bus.

The Luas was the best thing ever to happen to public transport in Tallaght.

average_runner

Cool Mo D wrote: »

Maybe the Luas takes longer off peak, but if you've tried to use a bus service from Tallaght to town in the morning, it will easily be more than an hour, while the Luas is 40 minutes, and more importantly, is reliable. You'll never be waiting 40 minutes for a Luas, unlike any Tallaght bus.

The Luas was the best thing ever to happen to public transport in Tallaght.

I get the bus every monday and tuesday from kilnamanagh and it takes less time that the luas at 7.30 am.

Going home it is also quicker!!

Luas to Kingswood is close to 50 mins!

AngryLips

Would splitting the red line or building line F really relieve anything though? Isn't the plan for line F to merge with red line at some point? That would just mean that capacity on both lines will be restricted by the maximum capacity at the point where the two lines converge.

Peregrine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117883381#Comment_117883381

There's no current plan. It will be redesigned from scratch.

Merging with the Red line isn't an option anymore.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117883934#Comment_117883934

Send the red line down Thomas Street to College Green is one option with every second red line tram interchanging at Heuston with Line F.