Confirmed Fixes

Seifer

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/news/view/2832654779195992365/

A lot of changes :eek:
Not sure what to make of the flare changes but breaking javelin lock was needed badly.

Static M.e.

Love it, I hope they all follow on the 360 version..my favourites are


-Unguided tank rounds and RPGs will now instantly destroy Jets, Attack Helicopters, and Scout Helicopters.

-Increased the damage the MBT's primary weapon does to the front and side armor of other main battle tanks. Primarily this means 1 less shot to the front, and very good hits to the side can result in a 1 hit to disable.

-Reduced the locking time for AA Missiles for Jets to make them more viable against air targets

-The IGLA and Stinger now lock on much more quickly and disable an attack aircraft in 1 hit, but have significantly reduced range. This should allow Stingers to mount an effective close range point defense, without dominating an entire airspace.

-Reduced the damage AA guns (both mobile and stationary) do to infantry.

-The MAV can no longer be used as an elevator.

-Players may now use their knife to destroy enemy equipment.

-C4 will no longer be detonable after a player respawns, if the player is revived within 5 seconds he can still detonate his C4.

hidinginthebush

Static M.e. wrote: »

-The MAV can no longer be used as an elevator.

Delighted with this one!

Static M.e. wrote: »

-C4 will no longer be detonable after a player respawns, if the player is revived within 5 seconds he can still detonate his C4.

Sad to see this go, but it's probably for the best. We had our fun C4

Br4tPr1nc3

The MAV will now be destroyed when running into a soldier or vehicle at high speed. It is still possible to strategically sacrifice your MAV on a soldier; it will be destroyed in the process.

-The M224 Mortar can no longer be deployed in an area that is out of combat for another team like a home base or other protected spawn.

Cormic

Br4tPr1nc3 wrote: »

The M224 Mortar can no longer be deployed in an area that is out of combat for another team like a home base or other protected spawn.

While this is a good thing. I will miss the ability to use the mortar in Metro when being spawn killed in an uneven game. Using the Mortar in the RU spawnpoint was the only way I got kills in that situation.

Br4tPr1nc3

yeah but to be honest with ya mate, the best thing to do in that situation is not just try get some kills while staying out of range.

you need to break out of the spawn, and thats only gona happen if the entire team try it, not just some of them, while others sit back.

thats why sniping doesnt work when your locked in your spawn.

Creature

-Guided Rockets will now only track ground targets, as originally intended.

Does this mean no more nailing of laser-painted helis and planes with the Javelin and guided tank shell?

iColdFusion

Creature wrote: »

Does this mean no more nailing of laser-painted helis and planes with the Javelin and guided tank shell?

Guided Rockets are a smarter version of standard attack heli rockets.


Sad to see after death C4 detonate going, no more kamikaze runs for me
Flares breaking a javelin lock will cause problems, it was the only way of stopping a raping heli crew...
Nice to see the havoc getting a buff too.

There was talk of the M98B getting a big nerf to make it no more powerful than the other bolt actions and stop people whoring it in hardcore but doesn't seem to be on the list.

umpsfar

Added Horns to all Jeeps.
\O/
(the last thing ull hear)

raze

Creature wrote: »

Does this mean no more nailing of laser-painted helis and planes with the Javelin and guided tank shell?

The wording is ambiguous, you can lock onto ground targets with guided shell/javelin without laser designation, but I think you can also lock onto MAVs. So it might just be restricting what the javelin/guided shell can lock without SOFLAM/CITV.

-Laser Guided missiles can now be distracted by Flares.

If you couldn't still lase choppers, then there'd be no point updating flares to do this.

Meanwhile,

-The Mi28 has received upgrades to its climbing and yawing abilities.
-Fixed an issue where guided rockets from the Mi28 did not follow the crosshair properly.
-Improved the accuracy of the Mi28 gun to match the AH1 gun.

Weird that they're reporting three buffs to the Mi28-Havoc when they could just make it identical to the AH-1Z Viper and no one would complain. That might be what they've done, but it's unclear.

DeWinterZero

-Added Horns to all Jeeps.


Please, please, please
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL_WdWZLLKw&feature=youtu.be

the_syco

iColdFusion wrote: »

Flares breaking a javelin lock will cause problems, it was the only way of stopping a raping heli crew...

Pretty much

copeyhagen

Static M.e. wrote: »

-The MAV can no longer be used as an elevator.

.

thats me done with bf3

SeantheMan

Your kind won't be missed

umpsfar

how about a ban on players using wallhacks, rather than a reset to zero.:mad:

SeantheMan

Idd.

Reset to zero should be optional.
I'd happily start over (and be moaning 10 mins later)

Hercule

for me the game needs a performance and stability overhaul - I could live with a little weapon imbalance if the game ran at 60+ fps like every other game i have does.

of whats here:

I like:

-Players should no longer take fall damage from short falls.

-Slightly reduced the effective blast radius of the RPG, SMAW, and 40mm grenade projectiles against infantry.

-Added Horns to all Jeeps.

-Reduced the damage AA guns (both mobile and stationary) do to infantry.

what I would like to see

"numerous tweaks and optimisations to game engine so that it not longer sucks"

copeyhagen

SeantheMan wrote: »

Your kind won't be missed

made the city maps more interesting, and actually allowed snipers to provide some input to the game.

sniper class is just a waste now.

SeantheMan

copeyhagen wrote: »

made the city maps more interesting, and actually allowed snipers to provide some input to the game.

sniper class is just a waste now.

Why ? because they might have to actually use ladders and stairs to get to places ?
They can get to about 10x the places they could in BF2.
Not to mention they have MAVs and SOFLAMs, Spanwbeacons and TUGs...and the use of many PDW and other great guns.

The sniper wasn't meant to be an almighty god who could kill from generally inaccessible areas in BF

AnCapaillMor

Really looking forward to an rpg taking out a heli with 1 shot. Went back to the engie class this week for a while and hit a few eli's with the RPG only for them to fly off.

cherryghost

copeyhagen wrote: »

made the city maps more interesting, and actually allowed snipers to provide some input to the game.

sniper class is just a waste now.

You're obviously not playing the class right then.

mick-fitz8585

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

Really looking forward to an rpg taking out a heli with 1 shot. Went back to the engie class this week for a while and hit a few eli's with the RPG only for them to fly off.

That was me lol

AnCapaillMor

I save the M16 for you.

Actually had a good crack last night, shot 5 pilots out of the littlebird last night on nosehairs with the M27, including kitten twice.

MR DAZ

Anyone needing guidence on the sniper front should ask Plaguemarine for help


He's an animal

@ Mickfitz ..yeah Horse was crying saying on ts about the rpg incident that last night alright

Zomg Okay

copeyhagen wrote: »

made the city maps more interesting, and actually allowed snipers to provide some input to the game.

I make plenty input to the team while sniping from the ground and from laddered buildings. You're obviously doing something wrong if the only way you can think of contributing is with MAV elevators.

Lanaier

No VOIP, No VOIP, and No VOIP.

DeWinterZero

He probably hates getting his tags taken. Anyway MAV elevators really only worked/were annoying on one or two city levels. The rest heli's were available to take down the sniper and his spawn beacon.

I'll glad to see the back of them.

mick-fitz8585

Lanaier wrote: »

No VOIP, No VOIP, and No VOIP.

And would you use VOIP when there is teamspeak, vent and mumble which are far better. Thats unless your on console which im sure it would be needed.

I always found i knocked VOIP off due to all the kiddys screaming.

umpsfar

mick-fitz8585 wrote: »

And would you use VOIP when there is teamspeak, vent and mumble which are far better. Thats unless your on console which im sure it would be needed.

I always found i knocked VOIP off due to all the kiddys screaming.

no need to bring your personel life into this.
going back to my bf2 days, i would play on a squad for a while then after a good game i would create my own squad name and ask other decent players to join, no screaming kiddies, but then back then kiddies didnt get new PC's because its wednesday

copeyhagen

SeantheMan wrote: »

Why ? because they might have to actually use ladders and stairs to get to places ?
They can get to about 10x the places they could in BF2.
Not to mention they have MAVs and SOFLAMs, Spanwbeacons and TUGs...and the use of many PDW and other great guns.

The sniper wasn't meant to be an almighty god who could kill from generally inaccessible areas in BF

i play oman and karkand only, oman is fine, chopper jumps are still usable. but karkand is crap for sniping unless you can get to a decent vantage point.

its a game, its meant ot be fun, if my idea of fun is to use the mav to get up on top of buildings then thats my thing! most fun in the game for me is the huge sniper battles going on in all the karkand servers.

cherryghost wrote: »

You're obviously not playing the class right then.

yeh, obviously :rolleyes:

Glico Man

I've said it in another thread here, but one of the funniest things you can do is find a sniper on top of a building, then with your MAV nudge him off. They're always too disorientated to be able to open their chute when they fall. Just don't forget to blow up his spawn beacon before you head off to get someone else, unless you want to do it again that is :pac:

SeantheMan

copeyhagen wrote: »

i play oman and karkand only, oman is fine, chopper jumps are still usable. but karkand is crap for sniping unless you can get to a decent vantage point.

its a game, its meant ot be fun, if my idea of fun is to use the mav to get up on top of buildings then thats my thing! most fun in the game for me is the huge sniper battles going on in all the karkand servers.


yeh, obviously :rolleyes:

Well limiting yourself to 2 maps is pretty poor first off, maps that were ported from BF2. Did you play BF3 before Back to Karkand was released ?

I appreciate that it's your idea of fun, but it's being taken out of the game for a reason, mainly because it's stupid.

If you enjoy sniper fests, suggest you try BF2 inf only karkand/mashtuur/jahlalabad...because it's not much different gameplay wise to what you're currently doing....it's basically 16v16 snipers

Lanaier

mick-fitz8585 wrote: »

And would you use VOIP when there is teamspeak, vent and mumble which are far better. Thats unless your on console which im sure it would be needed.

I always found i knocked VOIP off due to all the kiddys screaming.

I play with strangers.
Very few people on my friends list are in the same country as I am.

Though I'm sure if DICE ever implement it they will make it so you can't decide who to mute, thus making it just as useless.

copeyhagen

SeantheMan wrote: »

Well limiting yourself to 2 maps is pretty poor first off, maps that were ported from BF2. Did you play BF3 before Back to Karkand was released ?

I appreciate that it's your idea of fun, but it's being taken out of the game for a reason, mainly because it's stupid.

If you enjoy sniper fests, suggest you try BF2 inf only karkand/mashtuur/jahlalabad...because it's not much different gameplay wise to what you're currently doing....it's basically 16v16 snipers

yes, played bf2 for eyars, and bc2, and played bf3 since beta. i only started playing sniper about a month ago (all rifles unlocked now). before that i was playing all maps ect, with limited game time now i wanna play whats most fun.

tried playing a round last night without using mav to get onto buildings and its a mess, sniping sapots are too easy to see, except in buildings, like around suburban flag, but they get so busy with enemy infintry that knife kills are a regular occurance.

spent many many a day in bf2 playing pistol only on karkand

SeantheMan

Each to their own. You would probably enjoy half the other games out there just as much considering the games you enjoy in BF2/3.

If you've not gone on a mad C4 mission and heard the person you killed screaming on TeamSpeak then you're missing out.

If you're on PC, suggest you join the rest of us who play BF3 here on boards.ie @ craggy server and TS

copeyhagen

yeh im on pc and have played a few fridays with ts on craggy. good craic till about 1am when everyones talkin sh1te cuz theyre so twisted!

mick-fitz8585

copeyhagen wrote: »

yeh im on pc and have played a few fridays with ts on craggy. good craic till about 1am when everyones talkin sh1te cuz theyre so twisted!

I dont think twisted has anything to do with it......:p:D

Craggy is good craic, nothing better than hearing the person you shot giving out lol

PhlegmyMoses

Looking forward to this patch. The gadget and vehicle changes look excellent. Any hints as to when it will be out? Obviously PC will get it first.

Blazer

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Looking forward to this patch. The gadget and vehicle changes look excellent. Any hints as to when it will be out? Obviously PC will get it first.

I'd say 2-3 weeks hopefully barring any issues..

hidinginthebush

Ah so these fixes haven't been implemented yet? And there was me thinking my suicide C4 days were over!

PhlegmyMoses

Yeah, I thought they were imminent when I read the Battlelog page but I was sure I hadn't taken a patch down recently. I then saw some guy MAVing up to a building on Oman so had a look around to see when it was coming out.

AnCapaillMor

It's funny that they brought out the patch news a few days before black friday.

PhlegmyMoses

Can't really understand the Black Friday concept. Dice seems to have supported this game quite well and listened to the community and there are no real game breaking glitches that need to be fixed right away. I'd rather they took their time and made sure what they were fixing didn't cause other unforeseen imbalances and problems.

AnCapaillMor

You'll all always hear more complaing about something small than praise of something great. Someone will always find something to whinge about and we always be hit with buffs\nerfs.

I love the battlefield forums because stats are so easily accessible. Some random guy will be giving out about weak jets\tanks\heli's are and demand them to be buffed you click on him and 90% of his kills are in jets\tanks\heli's. My favourite was 1 guy who demanded the explosion radius of the m320 increased because its low yield was ruing his game, the dude had 16K M320 kills and his next highest weapon was 2000 m16 kills.

mick-fitz8585

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Can't really understand the Black Friday concept. Dice seems to have supported this game quite well and listened to the community and there are no real game breaking glitches that need to be fixed right away. I'd rather they took their time and made sure what they were fixing didn't cause other unforeseen imbalances and problems.

Doesn't matter what's right or wrong with the game, cause EA made it people will always complain.

Its a pity that the small minority that don't like the game are so load when the masses who play bf3 are happy to get on with it.

hightower1

LOL, I was a habbitual COD gamer until recently when I just couldnt stand it anymore and decided to really get into BF3 and if BF players thing support is poor my god try and play COD for a while.... holy hell. You litterally dont hear from the devs unless they are looking for you to reach into your wallet again. Even in the face of glaring glitches, exploits and balance issues they simply ignore them up until its map pack time then you hear from them non stop but nothing about fixes ... just ways to get you to spend more cash.

All in all BF3 is way more balanced and while some glitches / balance issues are irritating the game doesnt suffer as much for it and from what I can see from the patch updates will all but be resolved going forward.

mick-fitz8585

Some of the problems with the bf series has been to many updates and changes

It was a patch to far that stopped me playing bf2 and bf2142

Blazer

mick-fitz8585 wrote: »

Some of the problems with the bf series has been to many updates and changes

It was a patch to far that stopped me playing bf2 and bf2142

My favourite was the 1.4 patch for BF2...that broke the jets and gave ground to air missiles a huge advantage as you couldn't outturn in the jets...and also overpowered the J-10 against all other jets..

I actually played a vanilla BF2 game a few months ago and it was a joy to fly the jets..I was basically impervious to stingers and other jets...good old times

mick-fitz8585

Blazer wrote: »

My favourite was the 1.4 patch for BF2...that broke the jets and gave ground to air missiles a huge advantage as you couldn't outturn in the jets...and also overpowered the J-10 against all other jets..

I actually played a vanilla BF2 game a few months ago and it was a joy to fly the jets..I was basically impervious to stingers and other jets...good old times

I still play ghost town from the expansion from time to time but havent gone back to bf2 since 1.4

PhlegmyMoses

mick-fitz8585 wrote: »

Doesn't matter what's right or wrong with the game, cause EA made it people will always complain.

Its a pity that the small minority that don't like the game are so load when the masses who play bf3 are happy to get on with it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to see certain things get fixed and it'd be **** if Dice didn't offer any follow up support once the game came out but that list of things they want to fix is detailed and shows that they are actively working to improve the game.

As it is now, it's hardly like the game is unplayable - anybody remember the care package glitch in MW2? - so people deciding to do some kind of protest seems ridiculous. Get on with it!

SeantheMan

Didn't Jalalahbad come out @ 1.41 ?
I stopped at 1.5 which was the last one I think , but was slowly in decline once they introduced Inf Only and 90% of servers immediately became Karkand INF Only