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why do immigrants want to follow their own culture more

  • 23-02-2012 08:43PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭


    I always wonder why do immigrants want to keep their culture alive when they are not in their mother country. they tend to be more strict in following it then the one who lives back there in thier country

    i m not trying to criticize any body,just curious what will be the reason..okay they might be missing their hometown but why are they strict towards their kids as well to make them follow that culture more then the culture of the country they are now living?
    i myself am an immigrant here in ireland and also do so,just dont know why i m doing so :rolleyes:
    immigrants can be from any country to any other country,not just immigrants to ireland


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Because they are proud of their roots?

    Because they want to hold onto their heritage?

    Pretty stupid question tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    If you do it and don't know why, how the hell are we supposed to know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    I've lived away from Ireland for extended periods twice, and even though I'm normally not in the least bit patriotic, being away from the oul' sod inevitably makes one more fond of it.

    Also, it's perfectly possible to maintain parts of one's original culture and be a perfectly-integrated constructive citizen of your new home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Pacifist Pigeon


    I think pride in something one did not create is a highly fallacious sentiment. If people had less of these sentiments, there would be less ethnic conflicts and wars.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Why do immigrants want to follow their own culture more?

    If you seriously, really have to ask that question, I doubt you would understand the answer!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Because it's their own culture ! ! !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭simply simple


    in more detail to my thoughts,i would say,usually people immigrate to other country for a better life, so for better life you are ready to leave your country and culture and go somewhere else but u still try to keep it alive where u have gone
    what psychology works behind this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    why are they strict towards their kids as well to make them follow that culture more then the culture of the country they are now living?

    Urban drunk teen-sluts ain't a great advertisement for assimilation.

    Hijabs for all I say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    in more detail to my thoughts,i would say,usually people immigrate to other country for a better life, so for better life you are ready to leave your country and culture and go somewhere else but u still try to keep it alive where u have gone
    what psychology works behind this?

    Because even though life might be better in the new country, they probably didn't completely hate their home country, and were probably at least a little reluctant to leave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    I always wonder why do immigrants want to keep their culture alive when they are not in their mother country. they tend to be more strict in following it then the one who lives back there in thier country

    i m not trying to criticize any body,just curious what will be the reason..okay they might be missing their hometown but why are they strict towards their kids as well to make them follow that culture more then the culture of the country they are now living?
    i myself am an immigrant here in ireland and also do so,just dont know why i m doing so :rolleyes:
    immigrants can be from any country to any other country,not just immigrants to ireland

    'cause it's familiar and it reminds them of what they're missing.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    in more detail to my thoughts,i would say,usually people immigrate to other country for a better life, so for better life you are ready to leave your country and culture and go somewhere else but u still try to keep it alive where u have gone
    what psychology works behind this?

    Just because you want a better life, doesn't mean you have to sacrifice up your original national identity and culture!
    One can move to another country and still maintain traditions while fitting in also with the rules and ways too of one's new adopted state!

    You are what your culture has made you, not what you walk into as you cross a border!
    Why would you want to forget or sacrifice your background!
    I can't believe you don't get that!

    *sigh*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    . . .i would say,usually people immigrate to other country for a better life, so for better life you are ready to leave your country and culture and go somewhere else. . .

    They probably leave their country because they have no choice, due to lack of jobs, want better for their family etc. etc. However that does not mean they hate their country. They want to keep their culture with them because that is all they have left after uprooting themselves from their home.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    oh god, I smell a "I hate Irish bars and people who go to Australia for a year and hang out with other Irish people" situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    oh god, I smell a "I hate Irish bars and people who go to Australia for a year and hang out with other Irish people" situation.

    You can smell all that through your monitor? You should join a canine drug unit with that nose :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭simply simple


    but this culture love is sometimes hard for kids as they are born n brought up in the new country and parents are trying hard to teach their culture,why? u love your culture but your kids culture is the new country as they are born there,why try hard to teach then your culture,some does this to an extent that kids rebel against their parents and their culture


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Just because you moved somewhere else doesn't mean you'll give up half your identity. In fact certain aspects of the old culture will probably become stronger.
    It depends on two factors I think, 1) how willing you are to adopt the new country's values "as is" and 2) if you live among the host population and have many new friends or if you stick with living with other from your old country and don't make new friends.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    but this culture love is sometimes hard for kids as they are born n brought up in the new country and parents are trying hard to teach their culture,why? u love your culture but your kids culture is the new country as they are born there,why try hard to teach then your culture,some does this to an extent that kids rebel against their parents and their culture

    In the end, if you don't understand where your coming from (historically, socially and geographically alone), one (according to some experts) sometimes finds it hard to understand where one is going or wants to go in the future as regards mental and social development, besides integration into society and finding ones own place in it.
    This is not rocket science!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    but this culture love is sometimes hard for kids as they are born n brought up in the new country and parents are trying hard to teach their culture,why? u love your culture but your kids culture is the new country as they are born there,why try hard to teach then your culture,some does this to an extent that kids rebel against their parents and their culture

    I think kids are able to maintain a complex identity based on two nationalities though, and only get confused or angry if people try to impose a single identity on them.

    It used to always happen here (maybe still does) to kids who were part-Irish and part-British in some way, especially if they moved back and forth between Ireland and Britain. In a few cases I know of, in Britain they'd be the Irish kids and here they'd be the fecking English kids.
    But they'd be perfectly happy to be a bit Irish and a bit Irish, maybe more of one than the other, and never understood why people would try to force them into being one or the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭simply simple


    It used to always happen here (maybe still does) to kids who were part-Irish and part-British in some way, especially if they moved back and forth between Ireland and Britain. In a few cases I know of, in Britain they'd be the Irish kids and here they'd be the fecking English kids.
    But they'd be perfectly happy to be a bit Irish and a bit Irish, maybe more of one than the other, and never understood why people would try to force them into being one or the other.
    exactly what stops people from understanding this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Change is scary.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    exactly what stops people from understanding this?

    I think it's to do with old-fashioned older people who are used to only coming across people like them, especially here where most older people didn't see anyone from another culture.

    But thankfully people are more willing to accept more complex identities these days, especially younger people who grow up with people of different ethnic backgrounds and get used to it.
    I think lots of Irish kids have no problem seeing their friends as both English or Nigerian or Chinese and Irish too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    I am not Irish, I do not adhere to my *own culture* because I am not overly fond of it and it was one of the main reasons why I left my home country. However, I lived in another country before I moved to Ireland, so I have travelled quite a lot and do not seem myself as a citizen of x y z.

    My son was born here, he is raised like any other kid around here (minus the religious upbringing).

    No big deal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Just the way we role...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭St.Spodo


    We Irish, as a people, are famous for that. Our ancestors who emegrated to America were often keen to be seen as hyphenated Americans. If anyone should be complaining about this, it shouldn't really be us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,278 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Immigrants have to remind themselves of the country that couldn't support them, so that they can go back one day and kick someone up the arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    Never really thought of it tbh.
    However Luke Kelly's version of Song for Ireland does make me feel patriotic & a bit teary eyed :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭wyndhurst


    in more detail to my thoughts,i would say,usually people immigrate to other country for a better life, so for better life you are ready to leave your country and culture and go somewhere else but u still try to keep it alive where u have gone
    what psychology works behind this?

    You should really start by understanding the difference between "immigrate" (immigration) and emigrate before asking the more profound & deeper questions.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭simply simple


    but back in your own mother country people are eager to know your life in your immigrated country.an 'american return' is always popular back in their country,so if people in your own country are happy to see this change why arent the one who immigrates happy to see this in their kids or themself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Immigrants have to remind themselves of the country that couldn't support them, so that they can go back one day and kick someone up the arse.

    Not every person leaves for monetary reasons.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    There was something on Nationwide a few days ago about an immigrant to Ireland. I didn't watch the whole segment but from what I saw he was from somewhere in Africa and was proud of his roots but also loved Ireland and had learned to speak Irish fluently. He was in a recording studio wearing a tribal headdress while singing an African song and suddenly decided to start singing in Irish. He seemed interesting.


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