Being nice to each other

Mr. Loverman

I'm in Japan now and one of the things which really strikes me is how nice and polite everyone is to each other.

For example, the toilet seats never have piss on them, and people fold the toilet paper into a "V" so the next person will easily locate the start of the roll. (Whereas in Ireland it seems we almost try to piss on the seat and of course steal the toilet rolls...!)

Another example is the lack of petty crime. Restaurants leave their alcohol displays (full bottles of wine/champagne/beer/etc.) outside their premises when they close. They don't get stolen. (I have a vivid image in my head of a non-drinker in Ireland stealing the booze just to **** with the restaurant owner).

Or another example, when people go into coffee shops they put their iPhone on their table to reserve their seat, and then go to the counter to order. (No Ireland comparison necessary...)

As a result of this sort of carry on, it's really nice here! There is a gentle, trusting vibe in the air.

Why can't Ireland be more like this? (I don't know the answer).

I like Ireland and Irish people btw, I just don't know why we can't be more like the Japanese when it comes to respect.

chin_grin

Never been in a Japanese.....(F*CK!) prison then?

No. Neither have I. Just making conversation.

chin_grin

chin_grin wrote: »

Never been in a Chinese prison then?

are there many of those in japan?

genericguy

chin_grin wrote: »

Never been in a Chinese prison then?

No. Neither have I. Just making conversation.

China and Japan are not the same country, stop being racist.

smash

But their toilets also have hidden cameras in them and giant monsters often attack their cities!

SEPT 23 1989

The Yakuza

Nothingbetter2d

mr loverman... "i think your turning japanese, i really think so" :P

mikemac1

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

when people go into coffee shops they put their iPhone on their table to reserve their seat,

For such a proud people I thought they'd make a deal out of buying Japanese phones instead of American imports

I'm clearly wrong

Standard Toaster

Sounds amazing. Would love to visit Japan.

I guess the Japanese culture is just unique (better) to ours, or most other countries for that matter.

OP, have you bought used school girl panties from the vending machine yet? :pac:

up for anything

So much respect in Japan that there are special women and children only carriages on public transport to protect them from being groped which is a huge problem. :rolleyes:

Teyla Emmagan

Sadly, most Irish people are total knackers. Let's just accept this and move on.

Remember being amazed a few years ago in Spain - all the restaurants on the pier left their pretty little tables and umbrellas out overnight. In Ireland they would be knicked/chucked into the water by about midnight.

chin_grin

bluewolf wrote: »

are there many of those in japan?

genericguy wrote: »

China and Japan are not the same country, stop being racist.

<facepalms>

Maybe it's the strong painkillers I'm on....or maybe it's because of a major brainfart....I thank you gentlemen for waking me up.....Ever so slightly.

Wait, no that's what it was. The news. China. Something about Chinese. That's why I said China originally.

Ah the Japs. Great bunch of lads.

Nothingbetter2d

smash wrote: »

But their toilets also have hidden cameras in them and giant monsters often attack their cities!

don't forget the seizure inducing cartoons shows on tv

flanders1979

Its a terrible thing to shame ones honourable ancestors.
Splinter, he was a radical rat.

Son Of A Vidic

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

and people fold the toilet paper into a "V"

He approves of this.

upforit101

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I'm in Japan now and one of the things which really strikes me is how nice and polite everyone is to each other.

For example, the toilet seats never have piss on them, and people fold the toilet paper into a "V" so the next person will easily locate the start of the roll. (Whereas in Ireland it seems we almost try to piss on the seat and of course steal the toilet rolls...!)

Another example is the lack of petty crime. Restaurants leave their alcohol displays (full bottles of wine/champagne/beer/etc.) outside their premises when they close. They don't get stolen. (I have a vivid image in my head of a non-drinker in Ireland stealing the booze just to **** with the restaurant owner).

Or another example, when people go into coffee shops they put their iPhone on their table to reserve their seat, and then go to the counter to order. (No Ireland comparison necessary...)

As a result of this sort of carry on, it's really nice here! There is a gentle, trusting vibe in the air.

Why can't Ireland be more like this? (I don't know the answer).

I like Ireland and Irish people btw, I just don't know why we can't be more like the Japanese when it comes to respect.

They are civilised and the Irish are ..... "beyond psychoanalysis" according to Freud (reputedly).
Kevin Myers wrote a really good article last year on the stark differences in attitude and work ethic - unbeliveable.

Great quote from the article - says it all really.
"There's no panic in the media here," reported my Irish resident. "No panic among the people. No anger. Just sadness, and a determination to help. It's pretty obvious I love my adopted country. It's not perfect but it's knocked a lot of that self-satisfied Irish smugness out of me. There are many ways of looking at life. The way here couldn't be more different from that in Ireland."

www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/kevin-myers-japan-rebuilds-while-workers-on-m50-have-been-toiling-for-months-2584200.html

Ps I've never been to Japan but it sounds cool (the manners, organisation and civility anyway) enjoy your time there.

smash

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

don't forget the seizure inducing cartoons shows on tv

And their incredibly filthy and royally fúcked up porn industry... that still blur out genitals.

chin_grin

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

He approves of this.

I thought that was going to be a link to the origami guy (google origami is actually Japanese....) from Blade Runner.

Mr. Loverman

up for anything wrote: »

So much respect in Japan that there are special women and children only carriages on public transport to protect them from being groped which is a huge problem. :rolleyes:

It's not a perfect society, there are definitely some sexual issues here. But by and large they are extremely respectful to each other.

I don't want to get into some sort of argument where you think I think everything in Japan is perfect and everything in Ireland is ****, so please don't go there.

chin_grin

chin_grin wrote: »

I thank you gentlemen for waking me up

jester77

Reminds of when Irish friends come to visit me in Germany. "That would never work in Ireland", is a phrase I hear often in relation to things like:
- The public transport system, it's based on trust and you are rarely checked.
- In the bar, you run up a tab and pay at the end of the night.
- You can leave your convertible parked with the roof down and go away for the evening.

There is probably too much of the opportunistic cute hoor in the Irish psyche for these things to work.

Nothingbetter2d

smash wrote: »

And their incredibly filthy and royally fúcked up porn industry... that still blur out genitals.

yeah japanese porn sucks horribly also why to all the women look like they are in pain rather than having/faking orgasms

hondasam

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Sadly, most Irish people are total knackers. Let's just accept this and move on.

Remember being amazed a few years ago in Spain - all the restaurants on the pier left their pretty little tables and umbrellas out overnight. In Ireland they would be knicked/chucked into the water by about midnight.

I'm Irish and I'm not a knacker. I know lots of Irish people and they are not knackers either. I do know a few knackers.

chin_grin

smash wrote: »

And their incredibly filthy and royally fúcked up porn industry... that still blur out genitals.

For all we know they have octopuses there instead and they're actually an alien race. Hmm, I must stir that conspiracy up a bit.

bluewolf wrote: »

Well.....not literally..mentally. Although I'm weaning myself off coffee\caffeine at the mo so the withdrawal symptoms are a b!tch!

smash

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

yeah japanese porn sucks horribly also why to all the women look like they are in pain rather than having/faking orgasms

In fairness, you be in pain of you were a school girl being fcuked by a 2 headed alien with tentacles too.

Nothingbetter2d

jester77 wrote: »

There is probably too much of the opportunistic cute hoor in the Irish psyche for these things to work.

it probably started when the brits tried to deprive us of everything.
Land
Freedom
Potatoes
Education
Religion

we saw opportunities and grabbed it. over the years that became a culture.

so lets blame the brits for irish being a bunch of greedy opportunistic bastards

chin_grin

chin_grin wrote: »

Well.....not literally..mentally. Although I'm weaning myself off coffee\caffeine at the mo so the withdrawal symptoms are a b!tch!

I am not a gentleman and you're probably still not awake :pac:

staker

Have you got the "gentlemen first" off the ladies yet OP?
When I was there I was astonished the amount of times women left me first on the escalator or through the door. At the beginning I tried to return the goodwill and urge them through,what with the language barrier I soon gave up.
Social respect and politeness is a thing the whole western world could learn more about off the japanese imo.

Nothingbetter2d

smash wrote: »

In fairness, you be in pain of you were a school girl being fcuked by a 2 headed alien with tentacles too.

if they can push out siamese twins they can handle a 2 headed alien

Mr. Loverman

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

it probably started when the brits tried to deprive us of everything. we saw opportunities and grabbed it. over the years that became a culture.

so lets blame the brits for irish being a bunch of greedy opportunistic bastards

Well, the two examples (of respectful/polite/whatever places) so far are Germany and Japan, two countries who in general have been fairly dominant and not ****ed with throughout history.

So perhaps you are onto something.

Poland has a horrible history. Does anyone know if Poland has a similar vandalism/petty crime mentality (you know what I mean) similar to the one that exists in Ireland?

chin_grin

bluewolf wrote: »

I am not a gentleman and you're probably still not awake :pac:

Yeah, the cat laying on its side with an embedded keyboard and the monitor that's made out of cassette tapes I'm typing this on should have been a give away. I may need to turn it off and on again.

<pinches self>

So...........Japanese.

Mr. Loverman

staker wrote: »

Have you got the "gentlemen first" off the ladies yet OP?
When I was there I was astonished the amount of times women left me first on the escalator or through the door. At the beginning I tried to return the goodwill and urge them through,what with the language barrier I soon gave up.
Social respect and politeness is a thing the whole western world could learn more about off the japanese imo.

Yes! The gentleman first thing. Experienced it a few times today... led to a few stand-offs!

up for anything

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

It's not a perfect society, there are definitely some sexual issues here. But by and large they are extremely respectful to each other.

I don't want to get into some sort of argument where you think I think everything in Japan is perfect and everything in Ireland is ****, so please don't go there.

I wasn't planning on going there, Mr Loverman-san. You're obviously a great man for stirring the ****e though!

davet82

jester77 wrote: »

- You can leave your convertible parked with the roof down and go away for the evening.

you'd find a poo on the drivers seat if ya left your convertible on the side of any road here

justme7136

Right its fairly conclussive that were living in a hellhole,
i cant see this changing anytime ever

D1stant

I think population density mandates consideration

Ireland = 168/km2
Japan = 880/km2

If the Japs were knackers (Jackers?) they would have died out years ago

donegal_road

it is a hangover from British occupation.. we had the feudal system in Ireland for hundreds of years. On the lower tiers of the feudal system it is every man for himself. People tend not to be too nice to each other under this moral code.

mikemac1

We had a thread one night on bikes over in motorcycle forum

And were told that saying Jap is racist :rolleyes:

Realy? I talk about my Jap bike all the time and how Honda make the best bikes
I was giving praise, not criticism

Wattle

I had an amazing time there but they do have a cruel side as well. Lets not forget 'Endurance' and the Burma Railway.

Gummy Panda

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Sadly, most Irish people are total knackers. Let's just accept this and move on.

Remember being amazed a few years ago in Spain - all the restaurants on the pier left their pretty little tables and umbrellas out overnight. In Ireland they would be knicked/chucked into the water by about midnight.

You are right, no other country has petty crime at all. None what so ever

Faolchu

jester77 wrote: »

R
- In the bar, you run up a tab and pay at the end of the night.
.

lived there 20 years ago and was amazed by this, even to the point that some places let you run up a tab for a month if they knew you were a regular.

Explosions in the Sky

Always wanted to visit Japan, hopefull someday I will I wonder is it a easy place to travel with English (the language) and only a few basic lines in Japanese, I know it's easy in Europe as most countries English is everyone's second language

KTRIC

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

it probably started when the brits tried to deprive us of everything.
Land
Freedom
Potatoes
Education
Religion

we saw opportunities and grabbed it. over the years that became a culture.

so lets blame the brits for irish being a bunch of greedy opportunistic bastards

Amazingly other countries were deprived of the same things and don't have such an attitude towards other peoples property.

flanders1979

I'd love one of those japanese toilets that wash and dry.

Otis Driftwood

I was standing at a bus stop on O'Connell bridge a few weeks ago at around half 9.It was a crappy,blustery evening and there was a little old lady standing waiting for the bus and she had a few shopping bags with her.Easily 75/80 years of age.

Anyway,waiting for the bus when suddenly a random taxi pulled up beside the bus stop.Driver gets up and goes to the old lady and asks her where she is heading.She was going towards Ballsbridge and he said he was heading that way himself as he was finished for the evening and asked if she wanted a lift free of charge.He put her bags into the boot,helped her into the car and off they went.

Its random acts of kindness like that that help me believe that we arent completely screwed as a species.

I had a smile on my face for the evening after it.

Mr. Loverman

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

I was standing at a bus stop on O'Connell bridge a few weeks ago at around half 9.It was a crappy,blustery evening and there was a little old lady standing waiting for the bus and she had a few shopping bags with her.Easily 75/80 years of age.

Anyway,waiting for the bus when suddenly a random taxi pulled up beside the bus stop.Driver gets up and goes to the old lady and asks her where she is heading.She was going towards Ballsbridge and he said he was heading that way himself as he was finished for the evening and asked if she wanted a lift free of charge.He put her bags into the boot,helped her into the car and off they went.

Its random acts of kindness like that that help me believe that we arent completely screwed as a species.

I had a smile on my face for the evening after it.

Checks the newspaper for recent stories about old grannies getting raped.

:eek:

meoklmrk91

I remember hearing a story about a Japanese family on a train somewhere, can't for the life of me remember where I heard this but anyway.

There was a Mother, Father and toddler. The toddler wanted to look out the window but couldn't see so wanted to stand on the seat. Instead of just letting him stand up and do what he wanted, the Dad took off his shoes and the mother placed a blanket on the seat for him to stand on. When they were getting off the train the mother even went so far as to wipe the window to remove any hand prints that the little boy had left.

I found that amazing, if that was in Ireland the child would be standing up, shoes on, there wouldn't have even been a second thought about it. It is just a completely different culture.

Mr. Loverman

Explosions in the Sky wrote: »

Always wanted to visit Japan, hopefull someday I will I wonder is it a easy place to travel with English (the language) and only a few basic lines in Japanese, I know it's easy in Europe as most countries English is everyone's second language

I smile and point. It works fine.

In general there is someone in the train station who speaks basic English, so if you are in Tokyo and you say "Kyoto, today, reserved seat" they will know what to do.

mikom

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

I was standing at a bus stop on O'Connell bridge a few weeks ago at around half 9.It was a crappy,blustery evening and there was a little old lady standing waiting for the bus and she had a few shopping bags with her.Easily 75/80 years of age.

Anyway,waiting for the bus when suddenly a random taxi pulled up beside the bus stop.Driver gets up and goes to the old lady and asks her where she is heading.She was going towards Ballsbridge and he said he was heading that way himself as he was finished for the evening and asked if she wanted a lift free of charge.He put her bags into the boot,helped her into the car and off they went.

Its random acts of kindness like that that help me believe that we arent completely screwed as a species.

I had a smile on my face for the evening after it.

♫ Larry Murphy cabs...... TAXI....TAXI.....TAXI. ♫

Mr. Loverman

mikom wrote: »

♫ Larry Murphy cabs...... TAXI....TAXI.....TAXI. ♫

For some reason that text looks really pretty！

BillyMitchel

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I'm in Japan now and one of the things which really strikes me is how nice and polite everyone is to each other.

For example, the toilet seats never have piss on them, and people fold the toilet paper into a "V" so the next person will easily locate the start of the roll. (Whereas in Ireland it seems we almost try to piss on the seat and of course steal the toilet rolls...!)

Another example is the lack of petty crime. Restaurants leave their alcohol displays (full bottles of wine/champagne/beer/etc.) outside their premises when they close. They don't get stolen. (I have a vivid image in my head of a non-drinker in Ireland stealing the booze just to **** with the restaurant owner).

Or another example, when people go into coffee shops they put their iPhone on their table to reserve their seat, and then go to the counter to order. (No Ireland comparison necessary...)

As a result of this sort of carry on, it's really nice here! There is a gentle, trusting vibe in the air.

Why can't Ireland be more like this? (I don't know the answer).

I like Ireland and Irish people btw, I just don't know why we can't be more like the Japanese when it comes to respect.

Agree totally, Its not just Japan but a lot of countries in Asia are similar. Just seems a lot more civilized. Didn't see a scum bag in 18 months and as soon as I got off the Aircoach all I hear is "Story budddd..any change".