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Why did you choose NUI Maynooth?

  • 19-02-2012 10:32am
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    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭


    I think this thread would be useful for potential undergrads?
    So why did you choose NUIM? :)


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    I chose to go to NUIM because it had the course I wanted to do (Media Studies, although I didn't get the points so I did Arts :p). I went to one of the open days in April, and I really loved the campus and atmosphere so I engineered my CAO so that I'd definitely end up coming here :D

    It's also one of the handiest colleges to get to from where I'm from (Sligo) because there's a direct train line (which takes the same amount of time as the bus to Galway, even though Galway is far closer :confused:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭Tesco Massacre


    I didn't get enough points to do medicine in Trinity.

    Not bitter. Not. One. Bit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 SSS2012


    DO NOT GO TO MAYNOOTH...you will not find a job after it..unless you have the right connections or work your ass off to compensate for studying in Maynooth. And to be honest, it's not worth it, as it is not a party college. The academia is poor and so is the partying! Choose ANYWHERE but NUIM. Do your research...and definitely do not do ARTS in Maynooth!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    Arts in Maynooth is fantastic? Is it not, probably, its main selling point? English and Music are great departments anyway.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    CaoimH_in wrote: »
    Arts in Maynooth is fantastic? Is it not, probably, its main selling point? English and Music are great departments anyway.

    History Department is well regarded too.

    Plus Maynooth Arts offers quite a large range of subjects that you can't study in Arts elsewhere in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    SSS2012 wrote: »
    DO NOT GO TO MAYNOOTH...you will not find a job after it..unless you have the right connections or work your ass off to compensate for studying in Maynooth. And to be honest, it's not worth it, as it is not a party college. The academia is poor and so is the partying! Choose ANYWHERE but NUIM. Do your research...and definitely do not do ARTS in Maynooth!

    Like the connections thing is different in any other college?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    SSS2012 wrote: »
    DO NOT GO TO MAYNOOTH...you will not find a job after it..unless you have the right connections or work your ass off to compensate for studying in Maynooth. And to be honest, it's not worth it, as it is not a party college. The academia is poor and so is the partying! Choose ANYWHERE but NUIM. Do your research...and definitely do not do ARTS in Maynooth!

    I went there, graduated last year and I'm now working as a programmer in London. Don't worry guys :pac:

    Oh yeah, I did a BA also - Philosophy & Computer Science.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    Silly billy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 SSS2012


    I know connections matter wherever you are, but if you go to Maynooth you need connections to compensate for the fact you went to Maynooth. Maynooth is not known by people outside of Ireland. And it does not have a great academic record. Now...I don't mean to be hating on Maynooth I am just here to give my experience! It is a wonderful town. And is good for Science and IT..but I just would not recommend it for Arts unless anyone wants to be a teacher or lecturer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 SSS2012


    Computer science is good in Maynooth! It is also a practical subject. There are not enough practical subjects in Maynooth!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    Well it has the best music department in Irealand(and the best composition teachers),
    but I agree in terms of connections.
    Still it's getting better, with the new prez. and all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    SSS2012 wrote: »
    Computer science is good in Maynooth! It is also a practical subject. There are not enough practical subjects in Maynooth!

    So you're suggesting it's too academic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 SSS2012


    I have heard good and bad things about the Music department. Personally, I can say about the English department was there were not enough creative subjects. We had a small part of a module which was creative. The creative module option was taken away during my time and there was no creative writing in my three years, except a tiny part of a module, which asked us to write a modern Shakespearean play, which was the best part of my three years! I found some subjects overlapped and were repetitive.

    We only had tutorials in first year and after that it was online. To be honest, I think it was a shame to take away tutorials all together. I liked the online tutorials, but the department needed both. Some people did not even bother to come to college at all. I would see so many faces at exams I never ever saw before!!! In Trinity you have to swipe in...in Maynooth....they don't care! Maynooth is too easy to pass and get a degree!

    And the online tutorials took away any chance to be on a personal basis with lecturers or tutors. Also, in some colleges TEFL is part of the degree. I think this is such an important part of English. What is the point doing a degree in English if you come out with 0 skills after it, expect for knowing how to write an essay on comparative literature. The degree in English does not teach you about grammar, how to write in a creative or journalistic manner, and does not offer anything practical about English. Unless you want to teach or work in research/academia, what is the point of studying a subject if you can not use it for a practical purpose.

    I have gained more experience from 3 month internships/ work experience and jobs than 3 years studying English in Maynooth. Maynooth is a beautiful college and has some great subjects but I think the English department desperately needs a revamp, however, I know after leaving a creative module is now in place. Can anyone tell me how they are finding it?

    Has the English department improved? The best modules I studied were modern Shakespeare, the film modules, and also an optional module on theatre.

    I would love to know how other people found/find the modules?! Also, what are people doing with their English degree since graduating? It is just good to know!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 SSS2012


    Yes, I think there are too many academic subjects. And I think the academia over all is pretty poor. This is just a personal opinion. My brother is in Trinity studying English and it is on a completely different level. When we are in college, it is great that is is not too difficult, so short-term it's great, but long-term they are not doing us any favours! There needs to be a certain level of academia for a college to have international recognition.

    In order for Irish people to have jobs across the globe, Maynooth needs to improve the quality of academia in Maynooth. And of course, bring in more practical modules within subjects, which gives students skills when they graduate.

    Irish people lack skills that are needed to improve our economic situation, so yes, I think the Irish economy does not need students of purely academic background, especially if it is not of extremely high quality! If you want academia study in Trinity, if you want practical..DIT, DCU and so on! Business and make connections..then UCD! And then I guess if you want to be a teacher or scientist or computer programmer then go to Maynooth! The science research team in Maynooth are brilliant and make the news all the time for their research!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    SSS2012 wrote: »
    I have heard good and bad things about the Music department. Personally, I can say about the English department was there were not enough creative subjects. We had a small part of a module which was creative. The creative module option was taken away during my time and there was no creative writing in my three years, except a tiny part of a module, which asked us to write a modern Shakespearean play, which was the best part of my three years! I found some subjects overlapped and were repetitive.

    We only had tutorials in first year and after that it was online. To be honest, I think it was a shame to take away tutorials all together. I liked the online tutorials, but the department needed both. Some people did not even bother to come to college at all. I would see so many faces at exams I never ever saw before!!! In Trinity you have to swipe in...in Maynooth....they don't care! Maynooth is too easy to pass and get a degree!

    And the online tutorials took away any chance to be on a personal basis with lecturers or tutors. Also, in some colleges TEFL is part of the degree. I think this is such an important part of English. What is the point doing a degree in English if you come out with 0 skills after it, expect for knowing how to write an essay on comparative literature. The degree in English does not teach you about grammar, how to write in a creative or journalistic manner, and does not offer anything practical about English. Unless you want to teach or work in research/academia, what is the point of studying a subject if you can not use it for a practical purpose.

    I have gained more experience from 3 month internships/ work experience and jobs than 3 years studying English in Maynooth. Maynooth is a beautiful college and has some great subjects but I think the English department desperately needs a revamp, however, I know after leaving a creative module is now in place. Can anyone tell me how they are finding it?

    Has the English department improved? The best modules I studied were modern Shakespeare, the film modules, and also an optional module on theatre.

    I would love to know how other people found/find the modules?! Also, what are people doing with their English degree since graduating? It is just good to know!

    SSS2012 your opinion is demonstrably false. On the basis of my NUIM BA I got a place on a graduate programme and a contract with a major multinational financial services provider.

    What difference would Trinity or UCD have made?

    I didn't use any connections other than the career magazines I got at NUIM.

    Also a lot of companies just want a degree. Friends of mine here with History or English degrees have got jobs in business also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 SSS2012


    philologos wrote: »
    SSS2012 your opinion is demonstrably false. On the basis of my NUIM BA I got a place on a graduate programme and a contract with a major multinational financial services provider.

    What difference would Trinity or UCD have made?

    I didn't use any connections other than the career magazines I got at NUIM.

    Also a lot of companies just want a degree. Friends of mine here with History or English degrees have got jobs in business also.

    Sorry, but you can not say my experience and opinion is false. Everyone's experience and opinions differ..there is no true or false. And when exactly did you graduate??? That also makes a big difference!

    The majority of people I know, did not get a job afterwards, unless they did a masters or something special, which differentiated them from the average NUIM ARTS grad. I actually know lots of ARTS grads who ended up in Dunnes Stores. And they were very depressed.

    This is a debate, to offer opinions and experience, I will repeat there is no true or false opinion or experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    I finished June 2011. Graduated in absentia in September 2011. All was sorted by early June started in August.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 SSS2012


    philologos wrote: »
    SSS2012 your opinion is demonstrably false. On the basis of my NUIM BA I got a place on a graduate programme and a contract with a major multinational financial services provider.

    What difference would Trinity or UCD have made?

    I didn't use any connections other than the career magazines I got at NUIM.

    Also a lot of companies just want a degree. Friends of mine here with History or English degrees have got jobs in business also.

    Trinity does make a difference as it is recognized internationally, it makes the top global universities list. People across the globe know Trinity. Maynooth is not known internationally. It is like the difference between an ivy league and average college in the US. For example if you looked at a CV and read BA from Harvard or Columbia and then saw someone with a BA from Wheaton, Maine.....its like Trinity versus Maynooth. Wheaton is a small college like Maynooth..have you heard of it?????????????? My point proven..THANK YOU!
    University reputation and academic achievement is very important.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 SSS2012


    Again you did something practical like computer science..what are the exact careers of your fellow arts buddies..what jobs did they get with just a plain NUIM BA?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Lamy5


    I am a graduate with an arts degree and a masters from NUI Maynooth, and I can safely say that studying English and Geography at undergraduate level have not helped my career whatsoever. When I realised my degree was not helping my career I went back to NUIM and did a masters, which has not helped the situation either. I can see how studying computer science might give one a set of skills that would be useful in embarking on a graduate programme. I too have many friends that have graduated 3 years ago and other than the few I know are teaching, the rest are working regular minimum wage jobs like waitering, bar, shopkeeping etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Firstly from first hand experience employers and people in general in London know little about Irish universities. I have also heard of people who went to prestigious universities in the UK who have been rejected in favour of those from less prestigious universities.

    Business cares more about what you can do than a piece of paper.

    In my case Trinity or UCD would have no advantage.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    SSS2012 wrote: »
    philologos wrote: »
    SSS2012 your opinion is demonstrably false. On the basis of my NUIM BA I got a place on a graduate programme and a contract with a major multinational financial services provider.

    What difference would Trinity or UCD have made?

    I didn't use any connections other than the career magazines I got at NUIM.

    Also a lot of companies just want a degree. Friends of mine here with History or English degrees have got jobs in business also.

    Sorry, but you can not say my experience and opinion is false. Everyone's experience and opinions differ..there is no true or false. And when exactly did you graduate??? That also makes a big difference!

    The majority of people I know, did not get a job afterwards, unless they did a masters or something special, which differentiated them from the average NUIM ARTS grad. I actually know lots of ARTS grads who ended up in Dunnes Stores. And they were very depressed.

    This is a debate, to offer opinions and experience, I will repeat there is no true or false opinion or experience.

    You could say that and all your other points about any arts course in the country. None of those are limited to NUIM.

    Maynooth's arts course is recognised as being one of the best on the country with a wide and diverse range of subjects.


  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Wendero


    Reputation makes a difference, but mostly within academia and in certain hyper-competitive industries (think; investment banking). In academia, doing research at a university with boatloads of research money is of course better than studying at a university with a lower reputation that doesn't get as much funding. Having said that, Maynooth gets quite a bit of research money from what I know.

    Once you get to the interview, your degree doesn't matter much anymore. A good university can open doors and make your CV stand out, but beyond that, it's not much of a difference.

    Also, university rankings matter more on a graduate level than on an undergrad level. Most undergrad degrees are the same (except for the different subjects, of course). You learn the basics necessary to, in the case of a degree in economics, be an economist. It matters much more at a graduate level where programs in the same subject can be significantly different.

    Those are my thoughts on the matter. Just my 2 cents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    Just regarding the point on the English department - the course has been totally revamped since you finished in Maynooth. The online portion (which I agree was awful) has been totally gotten rid of, and there are tutorials/seminars for each semester throughout the three years. I would have had a similar view of the department as you for my first while here, but it really has come on enormously in the last two years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 SSS2012


    Glad to hear that, thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, unfortunately it was not great when I was there but I am really glad they have changed it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    I think this thread is derailing a bit we should try to get back on topic,
    so why did people decide to go to Maynooth?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 SSS2012


    Sorry that is my probably my fault, but this has been quite an interesting debate...but back to the main topic. I only wanted to do one thing, so my parents filled out the rest of my CAO form. I did not get my first choice, so I took a year out. And I was kind or pressured to start college so I went with the second choice...Maynooth. The reason it was my second choice was because it's not too far from where I live. Also, I was interested anthropology, and Maynooth has a good anthropology department.

    And I have found that department good, even if it tends to be very laid back, they have a good selection of lecturers from different countries with different areas of expertise.

    To be honest I did not find people very friendly, but having said that I have made some good sincere friends there too.

    Also, if anyone is thinking about going to Maynooth..they have two great chippers and a great selection of restaurants!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Absolute Zero


    Hey, I would be very interested to know what people have done after college who studied geography??


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  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Wendero


    I think that just in general studying liberal arts (ie english, history etc) has never been a very good way of getting a job. The subjects may be interesting, but from a career perspective they don't measure up to engineering and computer science. That's nothing unique for Maynooth.

    Of course, if you really really love a liberal arts subject, then go ahead and major in it. The problem is that many people choose a major after what they think is easy, not what they're interested in and not what may give them a job they're interested in having (a lot of people will find history interesting as a subject, but would still find the job of a historian to be boring).


  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Wendero


    Absolute Zero,

    Ask the people at your local McDonald's :P

    Seriously, here is a site you might find useful: http://www.aag.org/cs/jobs_and_careers/about_geography_careers/about_geography_careers_overview


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Absolute Zero


    Wendero wrote: »
    Absolute Zero,

    Ask the people at your local McDonald's :P

    Seriously, here is a site you might find useful: http://www.aag.org/cs/jobs_and_careers/about_geography_careers/about_geography_careers_overview

    Getting depressed now. Why did I bother going Maynooth now. Honestly didnt know the difference when I put down the CAO two years ago...

    whats the point of it all.... getting myself and my parents into debt like this just to go on the dole again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 SSS2012


    True...I would say a major problem in this country is a lack of GOOD career advice available. When we are doing our leaving cert there is not much advice on what career paths we are suited for, but more on what areas to choose in college. Most people I know chose ARTS because either they really liked the subjects they were going to study or because they were confused on what career they wanted or both.

    It would have been beneficial to have had a lecture in college as part of the English module on what careers we could do after our degree and what masters we should do or think about. Instead I found they were trying to encourage people to continue academic masters in Maynooth...it was just advertising people to stay in Maynooth and bring more money to the college... and not helping people overall.

    In my last year, the career guidance office was completely closed. An email was sent out after Masters deadlines were over, and it was in the middle of exams saying...the career centre is now open to go for advice on masters to apply for. But it was way to late for me as I had already done interviews and all deadlines were over for any msaters I was interested in. I just thought this was a disgrace and of course I was not going to go when I was in the middle of exams. Out of everything in Maynooth, this is what annoyed me the most.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 SSS2012


    Trust me I feel exactly the same especially after graduating. I kind of just kept telling myself it will be worth it when I got the degree...but it was not worth it at all! Sorry, but it's the truth. I would say just keep doing your research on careers and look into a good practical masters after it. Also, trying to get work experience in college would be helpful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Absolute Zero


    SSS2012 wrote: »
    Trust me I feel exactly the same especially after graduating. I kind of just kept telling myself it will be worth it when I got the degree...but it was not worth it at all! Sorry, but it's the truth. I would say just keep doing your research on careers and look into a good practical masters after it. Also, trying to get work experience in college would be helpful.


    I have to say , you are correct. In second year doing single honour geography and I can safely say its pretty useless. I am only writing essays or doing ICA's once a month.

    Half the people dont show up for lectures, I find its just like leaving cert again, sitting around class and half falling asleep and not paying attention.

    No skills being learned really, the compulsory module is all over the place and lots of people are getting terrible grades in it. Looking at other colleges such as UCC, they offer loads of practical skills as part of their geography degree.

    When I applied to Maynooth 2 years ago, I had no idea of the difference. I wasnt told these things in secondary school or whatever, I even went to a career guidance but that was useless. I came from a family in which no body went to college so I couldnt get any information of older brothers or sisters.. and to be honest never knew the difference between Ba or BSc or whatever...

    I didnt come to college to do a postgrad, but now it seems necessary to gain practical skills.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    The Career Guidance office in particular provide materials which explain options for students. Meetings can also be arranged with them while at university. There is also the option to transfer between degrees after first year. I swapped from BA Politics, to general arts after first year.

    If the Career Guidance office was completely closed, then that was simply unfortunate. Without the Career Guidance office I wouldn't have known what paths to consider after university. The fact is that they are available to students.

    As for the university not being friendly, it's clear that Maynooth to me was clearly a very different place to Maynooth for you. One of the strengths of NUI Maynooth was the friendly environment on the campus. I regarded my philosophy lecturers and my computer science lecturers to be really helpful when I talked to them about things.

    I still hold to my position that NUI Maynooth as a university is of an international standard, and it does provide people with clear futures. Having a peek on LinkedIn as to what NUI Maynooth graduates are doing convinces me more of this actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Absolute Zero


    philologos wrote: »
    The Career Guidance office in particular provide materials which explain options for students. Meetings can also be arranged with them while at university. There is also the option to transfer between degrees after first year. I swapped from BA Politics, to general arts after first year.

    If the Career Guidance office was completely closed, then that was simply unfortunate. Without the Career Guidance office I wouldn't have known what paths to consider after university. The fact is that they are available to students.

    As for the university not being friendly, it's clear that Maynooth to me was clearly a very different place to Maynooth for you. One of the strengths of NUI Maynooth was the friendly environment on the campus. I regarded by philosophy lecturers and my computer science lecturers to be really helpful when I talked to them about things.


    I work in a credit union and I find that the general consensus about Maynooth with the general public is that you go there to "teach"... thats what 99% of people say when they ask me what im doing in college.

    I actually went to career guidance last year too, got depressed during the start of first year when freinds I met here were telling me its really only for those who want to do teaching.. and I guess they are right..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    ^^ People can have whatever conception of the university that they like. The reality is that loads of people who leave NUI Maynooth do get jobs other than in teaching. I would say to anyone that they should be thinking about what they want to do pretty much from the first point that they enter. At the same time, I would have never expected to be working where I am.

    LinkedIn tells me that people registered who attended NUI Maynooth between 2008 and 2011 are currently in the following industries:
    Sales, Administrative, Information Technology, Creative, Engineering, HR, Support, Operations, Entrepreneurs, Business Development, PR, Finance, Medical, Marketing, Law, Accounting, etc.

    It also tells me that people who attended there work for companies like:
    Intel, Microsoft, IBM, Accenture, Paddy Power, AIB, Oracle, FAS, PwC, HP, SAP, eBay, etc. Quite a few work in other universities.

    Edit: These lists only contain companies and industries with more than 1 NUI Maynooth graduate, there are plenty of others.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    philologos wrote: »
    The Career Guidance office in particular provide materials which explain options for students. Meetings can also be arranged with them while at university. There is also the option to transfer between degrees after first year. I swapped from BA Politics, to general arts after first year.

    If the Career Guidance office was completely closed, then that was simply unfortunate. Without the Career Guidance office I wouldn't have known what paths to consider after university. The fact is that they are available to students.

    As for the university not being friendly, it's clear that Maynooth to me was clearly a very different place to Maynooth for you. One of the strengths of NUI Maynooth was the friendly environment on the campus. I regarded by philosophy lecturers and my computer science lecturers to be really helpful when I talked to them about things.


    I work in a credit union and I find that the general consensus about Maynooth with the general public is that you go there to "teach"... thats what 99% of people say when they ask me what im doing in college.

    I actually went to career guidance last year too, got depressed during the start of first year when freinds I met here were telling me its really only for those who want to do teaching.. and I guess they are right..

    I'd imagine that would be more your subject than Maynooth. The common perception is that most people who study Arts (anywhere!) end up in teaching


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭mickstupp


    Bearing in mind all I'm giving is my own personal experience, and of course it's not representative, especially not these days... but for a good many years I worked in various software companies, both testing and engineering, and my experience was very different. Granted, at the time the country was in a better state and there were jobs all over the place, but still. Having interviewed and hired a great many people over the ten years or so I spent in IT, I mostly found the Arts students to be the best in general. Again, granted, I'm not talking about full on programming positions here, but more general localisation engineering.

    What we often found was that computer science graduates were not nearly so useful as general Arts students, at least not in the beginning. Favourites for engineering positions were often History or Philosophy graduates, but English, Ancient Classics, Sociology, whatever, were just as useful. The reason is that when working on a software project it's often necessary to keep track of a great many threads of information at the same time. You need to be doing and paying attention to multiple things at once, still retaining an idea of the big picture. Similarly for test lead positions and even project management. Arts subjects are great at teaching that sort of general skill. History graduates were great at this stuff. Testers, too, were often better with Arts backgrounds. Having spent three or four years writing discursive essays they were much more literate which helps enormously when dealing with engineers who need to fix thousands of bugs, or staff in other countries who couldn't necessarily understand colloquialisms or sloppy grammar. Attention to detail is paramount, and if you've spent four years trying to get 1sts in your Philosophy essays, your attention to detail will be very good indeed.

    Reputation isn't everything either. And if anything, I think the reputation of the department matters just a little more than the reputation of the college as a whole. But in any case if you show up to an interview with a 1st, you'll be taken seriously no matter which college you got that 1st in. Likewise if you're only pulling a 2.2 you'd have to do a hell of a lot to impress me as an interviewer, and again whatever college you attended wouldn't really matter a damn. Things are obviously different now, but to many employers all a degree will show is that you can stick to something for three or four years without screwing up. In a practical sense, the content is often not as important as your commitment, or your common sense for that matter. There's an awful lot of highly qualified idiots in the working world.

    But! To be on-topic, and not get into too many more extremely boring details, I chose Maynooth because a) there was a bus going to it everyday from where I live, b) it had a high proportion of mature students and I'd heard good things from all the graduates I'd met over the years about the general friendliness of the place, c) the departments I was interested in taught the parts of their subjects that I was interested in. E.g. I looked at the undergrad course for one of my subjects in Trinity and it wasn't nearly so interesting to me as the syllabus in Maynooth. I decided to stay here for my MA because, again, I looked at the course content offered in other universities and they were not in areas I was interested in. And the reason I chose to go to college at all was not just because all the work dried up, it was partly because working in IT can suck the soul out of you and I grew to hate it with all my heart.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭Effluo


    I chose Maynooth solely because of the unique course, unfortunately I regret it now. Not only did I choose the wrong type of course, but I don't think I went to the best University I could have.

    I cannot say I was never told that UCD & Trinity for instance were generally regarded as providing a better education than Maynooth. I had read the University ratings, but with the ignorance of youth I disregarded it all and unfortunately there was nobody there to knock some sense into me.

    Due to the nature of my course, I've experienced a god few of the departments so I can comment on them at least

    I have a lot of good to say about the electronic engineering department and the quality of the course they provide is shown in the employment rate of it's graduates.(although this year the 3rd years have struggled to find placements)
    It's a broad course, very challenging and have heard it's quite highly regarded in the industry. Be prepared to do a lot of work though, it's like having a full-time job and then having to take the work home with you too!


    The product design department has some really great, creative people in it, but the organisational side to it leaves a lot to be desired. I know I'm particularly unlucky in my situation, I'm the only person doing the specific strand of the course, but even so that's no excuse for what has happened in my time here.
    I don't claim to be a particularly good student, well I certainly haven't been over the last 4 years, but when I end up in a module which I have not done the pre-requisites for, that is very wrong. In first year I started studying for an exam and realised that I had never covered some of the material that everyone else in the class had done in a previous module.
    After that, I found several more issues with my planned degree and ended up having to with the department, choose different modules myself as the course that was set out for me was full with errors. Every year since 2nd year I've had overlapping lectures, every year I've made my departments aware of the issues and nothing was ever been done about them.

    Anyone I've spoken to in the same "vein" of courses that I belong to feel very much abandoned by the department. It's the last year they're running the course and I think we've all had some issues. I can't clarify this, but I think our course was done away with due to the high failure rate and general poor organisation. This wouldn't be an issue if you went with the more established courses, but I'd warn anyone who has cross-departmental lectures that isn't arts.

    In relation to the quality of lecture, I wouldn't be overly enthusiastic about it... Nearly all of my economics & finance lecturers have given terrible notes. Electronic Engineering was generally much better and I really enjoyed the more creative business modules(Product Design department), then there were the marketing and management modules, which had adequate notes and were just basically like Leaving Cert business subjects.


    If you're an ambitious person, if you're passionate about something, go to a GOOD career adviser, talk to them, then go to second one. I think if I had the chance to do it all again, I know I wouldn't have chosen my course and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have gone to Maynooth.

    That's just me and I'm not going to dwell on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭Moon Indigo


    I am currently a coming near enough the end of my first year in Maynooth studying for a BACYW (Bachelor or Arts Community and Youth Work).
    In many respects the course is like a life of it's own as I know people with 200 people in a lecture whereas my whole class is just 32 and capped at that and its a big class at that!

    The course I am on is very specialised in the area but then again so is the area and the course is great for the work I/We hope to enter. I can't speak for all of Maynooth and the first time I visit it I honesty wasn't crazy on it but when I found the course I decided to go for it. I like Maynooth but as has been said it truly depends on what you want and how you want to go about it. If you want to party 24/7 its like anything you can but I feel that some of the best teachers and educators I have encountered have been either NUIM grads or those that teach in the classrooms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭snoreborewhore


    Hey, I would be very interested to know what people have done after college who studied geography??
    My brother studied Geography in Maynooth and is in University of Edinburgh for the year studying his masters. Don't listen to anything anyone else tells you about what few prospects you have - if you work hard enough for something you can get it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 265 ✭✭unclejunior


    tbh, if i had the choice again i would of gone to another uni preferably in the city. but having said that, i may not of had the opportunities to study the subjects i ended up studying so for that reason its not all bad.
    as far as the 'reputation' of a university is concerned and how it reflects on your degree should never be a concern for you. if you can pull a 2.1 or 1.1 in any reasonable dicipline and you are in anyway pragmatic, you should land yourself a good job if you try hard enough. anyone who is long term unemployed with a degree falls into one of these categories imo:
    either
    (a) they've been spoonfed all their lives and now lack direction since they've qualified
    (b) they think inside the box, and fail to see the opportunites afforded to them if they immigrate
    or
    (c) they are idiots

    a degree is much more than securing for yourself a job. after studying for three or four years, you should have the dicipline to initiate a business plan and focus on becoming an employer and not an employee if your so concerned about securing a job. theres no point been a sheep all your life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 Le Cheval


    Most of the discussion here has been in relation to the prospects that Arts degrees offer after graduating. Anyone have any experience with prospects for the Sciences?


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