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El_Dangeroso

Am I the only one who gets a little uncomfortable with the woo that invades these things a little bit?

I know you can pick and choose, and I plan to, but there's a guy into 'earthing' ffs! I'm not saying that you won't benefit from standing barefoot in nature from time to time (even Japanese doctors prescribe 'forest-bathing') but sitting in your house while tethered to the ground outside is just too out there for me.

Hanley

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Am I the only one who gets a little uncomfortable with the woo that invades these things a little bit?

I know you can pick and choose, and I plan to, but there's a guy into 'earthing' ffs! I'm not saying that you won't benefit from standing barefoot in nature from time to time (even Japanese doctors prescribe 'forest-bathing') but sitting in your house while tethered to the ground outside is just too out there for me.

Paleo's gone SO far off the other end at this stage that I can't take it srsly anymore. I think there's still a lot of value in it, but there's so much tree hugging hippy crap too.

Inspector Coptoor

I'm reading Robb Wolff's book at the moment, nearly finished it now, & he doesn't come across like an absolute tree hugging, hippy, zealot.

It's a shame he's honna be associated with the crazier side of "Paleo"

Animord

The trouble is, I think, that with any of these 'way of living' things its naturally the more vocal zealots who rise to the surface as it were - I am a very strong advocate of paleo/primal - I think it is great, but I have better things to do with my life than going round preaching about it. There are people out there who take life so SERIOUSLY - I laugh at the threads on MDA about stuff like "is the pill primal" - I want to post asking 'seriously, are you for real?'

There are very many mad people out there - but there are more normal ones - we are just go about our business a little less hysterically.:p

Red Cortina

Yup, I really don't get why the likes of Leptin-man is given any air time at these things. And I see that he is going to be presenting at the AHS this year too while Melissa McEwen didn't get a spot

On the other hand you have got Mat LaLonde in that schedule and I would actually be interested in hearing what he has to say...

Gummy Panda

Hanley wrote: »

Paleo's gone SO far off the other end at this stage that I can't take it srsly anymore. I think there's still a lot of value in it, but there's so much tree hugging hippy crap too.

There is a lot of bat **** fanatics on some of the paleo sites. Unfortunatelythese guys are the vocal minority. Talking about putting in expensive changes to their toilets so they poop like a palaeolithic man lol

Transform

Gummy Panda wrote: »

There is a lot of bat **** fanatics on some of the paleo sites. Unfortunatelythese guys are the vocal minority. Talking about putting in expensive changes to their toilets so they poop like a palaeolithic man lol

Jasus people just stick to reading and listening to the people you enjoy and then make up your own mind. For me the best people are

Chris masterjohn or virtually any of the wap people that have been right about soooo many things for years and Have NEVER had to change their message much.
Chris kresser
Mat lalonde
Guyenet
Devany
Robb wolf
There are a few more but for the most part chris kressers Paleo template is the best take on Paleo/primal out there.

Thomas Magnum

Transform wrote: »

Chris masterjohn or virtually any of the wap people that have been right about soooo many things for years and Have NEVER had to change their message much.

Curious that you mention the WAPF. Weston A. Price himself promoted a high-carb grain-based pescetarian diet. He said that wheat was one of the best foods you could eat and that the daily protein requirements for a person was the protein in one egg or a piece of meat equivalent to the size of one egg. Quite a difference between what he recommended and what the foundation that bears his name misrepresent to the public.

Red Cortina

Thomas Magnum wrote: »

Curious that you mention the WAPF. Weston A. Price himself promoted a high-carb grain-based pescetarian diet. He said that wheat was one of the best foods you could eat and that the daily protein requirements for a person was the protein in one egg or a piece of meat equivalent to the size of one egg. Quite a difference between what he recommended and what the foundation that bears his name misrepresent to the public.

Can you post a link to where that is said please?

Transform

Thomas Magnum wrote: »

Curious that you mention the WAPF. Weston A. Price himself promoted a high-carb grain-based pescetarian diet. He said that wheat was one of the best foods you could eat and that the daily protein requirements for a person was the protein in one egg or a piece of meat equivalent to the size of one egg. Quite a difference between what he recommended and what the foundation that bears his name misrepresent to the public.

Would love to see that link also as that is soooo far removed from what I have read and in HIS book

Thomas Magnum

Red Cortina wrote: »

Can you post a link to where that is said please?

It's in his book.

Transform wrote: »

Would love to see that link also as that is soooo far removed from what I have read and in HIS book

You obviously didn't read Dr. Prices book ( Nutrition and physical degeneration ) because if you did you would have noticed that on page 492 it says:

"The basic foods should be the entire grain such as whole wheat, rye or oats, whole wheat and rye breads, wheat and oat cereals, oat cake and dairy products including some milk and cheese and some marine foods."

He also says on page 492:

"The protein requirement can be provided each day in one egg or a piece of meat equivalent to the bulk of one egg."

Basically, Weston A. Price is saying eat more wheat

Red Cortina

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration is free to read online here: http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200251h.html I've done a search for those quotes and they are not showing up?

I've read his book and I certainly don't remember there being any definitive recommendation of what to eat. The book mainly just reports on his findings from visiting lots of different primitive races.

El_Dangeroso

Guys don't feed the troll. He only comes on these threads on this forum to start arguments. Funnily you don't see paleo people trolling the vegan and vegetarian forum, it's almost like we're secure in our life and don't feel constantly threatened by what other people are eating.

But then again Dr. Price went searching for vegans in the wild and only found cannibals so maybe I've got the poster all wrong.

Red Cortina wrote: »

Yup, I really don't get why the likes of Leptin-man is given any air time at these things. And I see that he is going to be presenting at the AHS this year too while Melissa McEwen didn't get a spot

On the other hand you have got Mat LaLonde in that schedule and I would actually be interested in hearing what he has to say...

Ugh, yes, leptin man, guy needs an editor, I have no idea what he is saying ever. I love love love Mat LaLonde, he is so freaking smart. Will definitely be tuning in for him.

Thomas Magnum

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Guys don't feed the troll. He only comes on these threads on this forum to start arguments.

Just because you don't like what I'm saying doesn't mean I'm trolling.

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

But then again Dr. Price went searching for vegans in the wild and only found cannibals so maybe I've got the poster all wrong.

I don't know what this quip has to do with what I said above.

El_Dangeroso

Thomas Magnum wrote: »

Just because you don't like what I'm saying doesn't mean I'm trolling.

This thread is about paleo. What are you doing here?

Red Cortina

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Ugh, yes, leptin man, guy needs an editor, I have no idea what he is saying ever. I love love love Mat LaLonde, he is so freaking smart. Will definitely be tuning in for him.

I just switch off anytime I see he has commented on something on Paleohacks:rolleyes:

I'm all for some solid critique of a paleo/primal type diet so that's why I like him... have also developed a warm spot for that CarbSane women...think she comes out with some interesting stuff:)

El_Dangeroso

I read her stuff too, I wish she'd turn her excellent biochemistry knowledge in the direction about HOW to eat less move more rather than just repeating it over and over. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't know that and yet here we are getting fatter and fatter.

Red Cortina

I would just be happy if she stopped talking about Jimmy Moore and whatever silly thing he said or did lately!

rocky

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

I read her stuff too, I wish she'd turn her excellent biochemistry knowledge in the direction about HOW to eat less move more rather than just repeating it over and over. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't know that and yet here we are getting fatter and fatter.

Well then, separate your carbs and fats - cutting edge

El_Dangeroso

rocky wrote: »

Well then, separate your carbs and fats - cutting edge

Make me

Thomas Magnum

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

This thread is about paleo. What are you doing here?

I merely questioned the disparity between Dr. Prices work and the message propagated by foundation that bares his name.

El_Dangeroso

Thomas Magnum wrote: »

I merely questioned the disparity between Dr. Prices work and the message propagated by foundation that bares his name.

Well I could pretty much dismantle your arguments and turn this into a 13 page thread about what the WAP foundation does and does not promote. Sufficed to say you are misrepresenting the WAP foundation and conflating it with paleo.

But that's what you want, so let people do their own research and get back on topic. Go start a fight somewhere else. I'll be reporting any further off-topic posting.

Transform

Red Cortina wrote: »

I would just be happy if she stopped talking about Jimmy Moore and whatever silly thing he said or did lately!

Maybe it's because jimmy has pretty good guests on all the time ans does sean croxton

Transform

Red Cortina wrote: »

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration is free to read online here: http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200251h.html I've done a search for those quotes and they are not showing up?

I've read his book and I certainly don't remember there being any definitive recommendation of what to eat. The book mainly just reports on his findings from visiting lots of different primitive races.

Agreed and look at the work from Lindeberg for an evolutionary perspective

Red Cortina

Red Cortina wrote: »

Yup, I really don't get why the likes of Leptin-man is given any air time at these things. And I see that he is going to be presenting at the AHS this year too while Melissa McEwen didn't get a spot

On the other hand you have got Mat LaLonde in that schedule and I would actually be interested in hearing what he has to say...

Erm... did Melissa McEwen read my mind (or vice versa)

http://huntgatherlove.com/content/what-bleep-do-we-know-about-carbs

El_Dangeroso

Yeah I thought about that too, one thing I will give to leptin man is eating a lot of protein in the morning does greatly increase your ability to stay on track for the rest of the day, but that was pretty well established before he brought it up.

This showed up on FTA this morning, I must say I lol'd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OUjidQCWhM

Red Cortina

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Yeah I thought about that too, one thing I will give to leptin man is eating a lot of protein in the morning does greatly increase your ability to stay on track for the rest of the day, but that was pretty well established before he brought it up.

This showed up on FTA this morning, I must say I lol'd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OUjidQCWhM

Yeah, I gave up reading anything he had to say a long while ago

Funny video:)