Champion Hurdle, 13-03-12

ft9

Zarkandar

No, gonna wait and see how Ted Spread goes Saturday. A lot of money for him, but I'm not so sure will he even get into the County.

Huntley

Gut feeling is that Ted Spread will be far too slow for the County.

Zarkandar is the only one unexposed enough that has a chance of beating Hurricane Fly in my book. Rock solid form, very decent reappearance and the nature of the race will probably suit him better than any he has contested so far. Can see 5 or 6lbs improvement but still not enough to win.

I was never keen on Binocular for this and still don't think he has shown enough to be able to beat Hurricane Fly. Strong place claims at this stage with the field after cutting up so badly though.

jimjamcos

Zarkandar

Huntley wrote: »

Gut feeling is that Ted Spread will be far too slow for the County.

Zarkandar is the only one unexposed enough that has a chance of beating Hurricane Fly in my book. Rock solid form, very decent reappearance and the nature of the race will probably suit him better than any he has contested so far. Can see 5 or 6lbs improvement but still not enough to win.

I was never keen on Binocular for this and still don't think he has shown enough to be able to beat Hurricane Fly. Strong place claims at this stage with the field after cutting up so badly though.

What race do you think Thousand Stars will run in? I think it'd have strong place claims in either race but there's absolutely no clues as to which it'll run in!

premierstone

Zarkandar

Ted Spread had a flat rating of 105, ran in a Derby and a St Ledger and won a Group 3 race, why do you think he would be too slow for a County Hurdle Huntley??

UrbanSea

Grandouet

He may need further over hurdles

premierstone

Zarkandar

UrbanSea wrote: »

He may need further over hurdles

Possibly, but the County is run at a fierce pace and the 2m 1 there should be far enough and if not he also holds an entry in the Martin Pipe race which is a further 3f.

Huntley

premierstone wrote: »

Ted Spread had a flat rating of 105, ran in a Derby and a St Ledger and won a Group 3 race, why do you think he would be too slow for a County Hurdle Huntley??

Have always stood by my view that middle distance flat runners tend to want more than 2 miles over hurdles.

premierstone wrote: »

Possibly, but the County is run at a fierce pace and the 2m 1 there should be far enough and if not he also holds an entry in the Martin Pipe race which is a further 3f.

Can only presume connections have the same doubts if he holds an entry for a 2½ mile race aswell.

hucklebuck

Binocular

Huntey do you think he will improve that little given the cough and Nicholls saying he would come on for it. I was thinking 10lbs and he will need to improve.

I think he will be sent on early enough to try get the rest at it, probably not Hurricane though

sting60

I have always believed as has been posted about flat distance and 2m hurdles.Since I posted my info about Ted Spread[new nothing about him] there has been two hugh bets laid on him.Another bit of info came this morning but nothing to do with horses and have invested at 6/1.If anybody wants this info I can post it but please dont say Sting what are you smoking.

Goldcupfav

sting60 wrote: »

I have always believed as has been posted about flat distance and 2m hurdles.Since I posted my info about Ted Spread[new nothing about him] there has been two hugh bets laid on him.Another bit of info came this morning but nothing to do with horses and have invested at 6/1.If anybody wants this info I can post it but please dont say Sting what are you smoking.

Go on Sting share the info...

UrbanSea

Grandouet

Go on sting

newuser89

Other (please specify)

Ted spread gave grumeti a lot of weight when he was beaten by him
Can someone explain why the weight diff and what would there weights be if both in the triumph.
I think he will go to county hurdle anyway

newuser89

Other (please specify)

13 pounds for 14 lengths v grumeti I think it was

mdwexford

Thousand Stars is certain to run in the Champion Hurdle imo.

RichieLawlor

Zarkandar

mdwexford wrote: »

Thousand Stars is certain to run in the Champion Hurdle imo.

And be second probably, like Istabraq and Theatreworld every year

hucklebuck

Binocular

sting60 wrote: »

I have always believed as has been posted about flat distance and 2m hurdles.Since I posted my info about Ted Spread[new nothing about him] there has been two hugh bets laid on him.Another bit of info came this morning but nothing to do with horses and have invested at 6/1.If anybody wants this info I can post it but please dont say Sting what are you smoking.

Sting you chatter away and I rarely comment but what in the name of God are you saying?

You posted your info about Ted Spread (link please) and two huge bets have been placed on the back of this info?

Colonel Sanders

Zarkandar

mdwexford wrote: »

Thousand Stars is certain to run in the Champion Hurdle imo.

Betfair not very enlightening. Big bid/offer spread in the horse in both the champion & stayers.

Huntley

hucklebuck wrote: »

Huntey do you think he will improve that little given the cough and Nicholls saying he would come on for it. I was thinking 10lbs and he will need to improve.

I'd say he has circa 8lbs improvement in him alright but I have him 2 or 3lbs too high for his Betfair win. Going on his official mark of 160 I think another 5 or 6lbs won't be far off what he will race to.

ft9

Zarkandar

Had a dream last night Hurricane was off the bridal coming around the turn at the bottom and Binocular cruised up by him and about 10 lengths clear, only to fall at the last!

UrbanSea

Grandouet

ft9 wrote: »

Had a dream last night Hurricane was off the bridal coming around the turn at the bottom and Binocular cruised up by him and about 10 lengths clear, only to fall at the last!

I had a dream last night I looked at the results on irishracing.com and Dynaste at 9/1 won the world hurdle

leggit

Zarkandar

I had a dream last night that I was drinking with Eamonn Dunphy and we ended up in coppers with 2 mingers!

That's much better than dreaming about seeing horse racing results in my book!?

hucklebuck

Binocular

leggit wrote: »

I had a dream last night that I was drinking with Eamonn Dunphy and we ended up in coppers with 2 mingers!

That's much better than dreaming about seeing horse racing results in my book!?

Giles and Brady?

leggit

Zarkandar

hucklebuck wrote: »

Giles and Brady?

Nah, Giles and Brady would have been an improvement on these things!

sting60

leggit wrote: »

Nah, Giles and Brady would have been an improvement on these things!

Giles would have told you which horse ticked all the boxes only tofind out it was not good enough to run and Brady agreed with John.

TheMilkyPirate

Zarkandar

How long has hurricane fly been 10/11?

Colonel Sanders

Zarkandar

Lay side is blank for Midnight Game on Betfair. Last price matched was only 15.5 though.

Colonel Sanders

Zarkandar

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

Lay side is blank for Midnight Game on Betfair. Last price matched was only 15.5 though.

Wrong thread!

UrbanSea

Grandouet

Zarkandar very weak in the betting. Now a full two points behind Binocular on the exchanges having been ahead of him a week or so ago. 6.4 v 8.4

hucklebuck

Binocular

UrbanSea wrote: »

Zarkandar very weak in the betting. Now a full two points behind Binocular on the exchanges having been ahead of him a week or so ago. 6.4 v 8.4

I will be going in again on the day, on the morning line he looked a whole lot tighter than he did at the Betfair. Huge ask to beat HF but 9/4 w/o looks close to the bet of the festival for me.

Colonel Sanders

Zarkandar

11/10 HF with Betfred

1.98 to lay on Betfair.

Timeform have him 8lbs clear FWIW