Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

Dempsey

Jelle1880 wrote: »

The one which saw him make a deal with Lunny and get him a 2 game ban.

LOL, wut?

Coillte_Bhoy

Jelle1880 wrote: »

The one which saw him make a deal with Lunny and get him a 2 game ban.

Jelle1880

Ask Matt McGlone, he's the one who claimed that Lunny made a deal with Lennon's QC.

Vincent Lunny the SFA man took Lenny's QC Derek Ogg outside of today's hearing to sort it out, such was the mess about to break for the SFA
@MattMcGlone9 @MattMcGlone9 - matt mcglone

And Vincent Lunny avoided major embarrassment for the SFA coming to a deal with Derek Ogg, avoiding a bigger circus. A major result for Neil
@MattMcGlone9 @MattMcGlone9 - matt mcglone

Coillte_Bhoy

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Ask Matt McGlone, he's the one who claimed that Lunny made a deal with Lennon's QC.

Vincent Lunny the SFA man took Lenny's QC Derek Ogg outside of today's hearing to sort it out, such was the mess about to break for the SFA
@MattMcGlone9 @MattMcGlone9 - matt mcglone

And Vincent Lunny avoided major embarrassment for the SFA coming to a deal with Derek Ogg, avoiding a bigger circus. A major result for Neil
@MattMcGlone9 @MattMcGlone9 - matt mcglone

Rightee, thats pretty conclusive and damning evidence there so it is:rolleyes:

Dempsey

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Ask Matt McGlone, he's the one who claimed that Lunny made a deal with Lennon's QC.

Vincent Lunny the SFA man took Lenny's QC Derek Ogg outside of today's hearing to sort it out, such was the mess about to break for the SFA
@MattMcGlone9 @MattMcGlone9 - matt mcglone

And Vincent Lunny avoided major embarrassment for the SFA coming to a deal with Derek Ogg, avoiding a bigger circus. A major result for Neil
@MattMcGlone9 @MattMcGlone9 - matt mcglone

Those sort of deals happen regularly enough when you have leverage. Ever watch Law & Order? :pac: You forget that the referee and linesman gave conflicting reports on another charge?

Jelle1880

Dempsey wrote: »

Those sort of deals happen regularly enough when you have leverage. Ever watch Law & Order? :pac: You forget that the referee and linesman gave conflicting reports on another charge?

And that's why he was not punished for that one.

But he already had previous charges from other incidents, so a 2 game ban is still a joke.

Especially if the SFA panel said that spending half a game in the stands is punishment enough, clearly going against their own rules (again).

It's clear they went soft on him, so it doesn't always happen that people or clubs get punished to the full extent of the law

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Rightee, thats pretty conclusive and damning evidence there so it is

Well, it's one of your own who said it, so I can see why you would doubt his word :pac:

Dempsey

Jelle1880 wrote: »

And that's why he was not punished for that one.

But he already had previous charges from other incidents, so a 2 game ban is still a joke.

Especially if the SFA panel said that spending half a game in the stands is punishment enough, clearly going against their own rules (again).

It's clear they went soft on him, so it doesn't always happen that people or clubs get punished to the full extent of the law



Well, it's one of your own who said it, so I can see why you would doubt his word :pac:

Thats what happens when you fúck it up. Celtic could have brought down a shít storm on the SPL like they did with Stevie Craven & Dougie McDonald. They probably agreed not to in return for a 2 match ban. If they fúck it up with McCoist or any other manager, expect their QC's to offer a similar deal to the SPL to save face. You think this is the first time a club has leveraged the SPL/SFA?

PauloMN

Jelle1880 wrote: »

It's clear they went soft on him, so it doesn't always happen that people or clubs get punished to the full extent of the law

Let me get this straight. Your club is in tatters, and you are here complaining about a two match ban that Lennon has got, as if to somehow compare the two punishments? :eek:

Don't you worry about Lennon - he'll get hammered by the SFA over the most recent stuff, of that I have no doubt. You've got a club to save.

Coillte_Bhoy

If a club does wrong then the fact that it happen to be on their knees due to it's own fault is no justification for seeking a lighter penalty, if the penalty exceeded the limits set as punishment then the club can appeal but they can't go in saying "Ah come on, give us a break please".

Jelle1880 wrote: »

They seemed to have done exactly that with regards to Lennon's charges though.

You say that celtic went in pleading for leniency yet you are quoting McGlone saying it was the sfa who instigated a 'deal'??? make up your ****ing mind

Jelle1880

PauloMN wrote: »

Let me get this straight. Your club is in tatters, and you are here complaining about a two match ban that Lennon has got, as if to somehow compare the two punishments? :eek:

Don't you worry about Lennon - he'll get hammered by the SFA over the most recent stuff, of that I have no doubt. You've got a club to save.

What recent stuff ?

As I read it he hasn't been charged for anything yet.

And I only used that as an example because someone joked about Rangers wanting the SFA to go easy on them.
Because obviously they would never dream of going easy and not obeying their own rules

edit: That's not what I said Coillte, but if you want to make it like I did, feel free.

weldoninhio

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

This is a call to arms. The time is now. This HAS to be done. More so than ever. A plea to us all to unite. Every single Rangers fans forum, organisation, RSC. Spread the word in every possible way. Post on other Rangers Forums, Twitter, Facebook, Text Messages, E-Mail's, phonecalls.

The Bears are coming together and it's got the potential to be huge....

The Bears should be renamed the Ostriches!! For all the whinging and complaining about Craigy Bhoy and the SFA not completing a fit and proper test, they seem happy to allow faceless, nameless persons take ownership of their club. The only person publicly out for the Blue Knights, hahaha, is Paul Murray. A man who is not a fit and proper person, and who will more than likely be banned from taking a place on the Rangers board because of his history. Swallow, Swallow. We Are The Paupers!!

lubo_moravcik

Who is John McMillan from the RST? Is he Dark Mingwall's sidekick??

Jelle1880

weldoninhio wrote: »

The Bears should be renamed the Ostriches!! For all the whinging and complaining about Craigy Bhoy and the SFA not completing a fit and proper test, they seem happy to allow faceless, nameless persons take ownership of their club. The only person publicly out for the Blue Knights, hahaha, is Paul Murray. A man who is not a fit and proper person, and who will more than likely be banned from taking a place on the Rangers board because of his history. Swallow, Swallow. We Are The Paupers!!

Oh, look, another one who has crept out from under his rock to have a cheap go.

bobbysands81

TheBuilder wrote: »

The trolling that goes on in this thread wouldn't be allowed in any other.

So I'll leave it to the usual suspects and the new bashers to have their fun.

I thought you guys didn't do walking away???!!!

Dempsey

Only noticed this now on the #hampdenprotest poster

"No to the SFA - No more impartial punishment"

Yer not happy that the establishment has abandoned ye! They cant cover up yer bull**** any longer!

bobmalooka

Dempsey wrote: »

Only noticed this now on the #hampdenprotest poster



Yer not happy that the establishment has abandoned ye! They cant cover up yer bull**** any longer!

I know, outraged that the SFA are treating them impartially :pac:

Time to demand a return to preferential treatment.

Jelle1880

It'll be fixed, they meant to put 'partisan'

The actual joke is that some of you would actually believe there is some sort of Establishment

bobbysands81

When Mark Daly and BBC Scotland told Rangers fans that Craig Whyte was not a fit and proper person to run your club you protested outside BBC Scotland claiming bias against Rangers!!!

Now you're talking about protesting outside Hampden because nobody at the SFA told you that he wasn't a fit and proper person to run the club!!!

lubo_moravcik

bobbysands81 wrote: »

When Mark Daly and BBC Scotland told Rangers fans that Craig Whyte was not a fit and proper person to run your club you protested outside BBC Scotland claiming bias against Rangers!!!

Now you're talking about protesting outside Hampden because nobody at the SFA told you that he wasn't a fit and proper person to run the club!!!

Dempsey

bobbysands81 wrote: »

When Mark Daly and BBC Scotland told Rangers fans that Craig Whyte was not a fit and proper person to run your club you protested outside BBC Scotland claiming bias against Rangers!!!

Now you're talking about protesting outside Hampden because nobody at the SFA told you that he wasn't a fit and proper person to run the club!!!

Oh yea, did Whyte ever take the BBC to court like he said he would. The outrage at the BBC was gas at the time

lubo_moravcik

He admitted back then that he was an opportunist

Jelle1880

Dempsey wrote: »

Oh yea, did Whyte ever take the BBC to court like he said he would. The outrage at the BBC was gas at the time

You know perfectly well he didn't.

The fact he now gave them an interview proves that he was at it.

But of course you knew that.

Dempsey

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You know perfectly well he didn't.

The fact he now gave them an interview proves that he was at it.

But of course you knew that.

I didnt hear either way, thats why I asked. And what interview are you referring to?

For months you were attacking the credibility of BBC and BBC Scotland and lambasting everyone else for believing anything they published especially if it was anyway critical of Rangers.

lubo_moravcik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VBPfi8QoRY

the realpigiron

Laugherty suspended by the club for indiscipline. The first of the rats leaving a sinking ship.

Jelle1880

Dempsey wrote: »

I didnt hear either way, thats why I asked. And what interview are you referring to?

For months you were attacking the credibility of BBC and BBC Scotland and lambasting everyone else for believing anything they published especially if it was anyway critical of Rangers.

Yeah, and ?
I already said i was wrong, as did all other Rangers fans.

And the interview where he stated that he didn't care about the fine ('good luck trying to get the money') and that his ban wouldn't impact his personal life.

edit: Keep these retarded nicknames to your own topic.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

the realpigiron wrote: »

Laugherty suspended by the club for indiscipline. The first of the rats leaving a sinking ship.

Already being discussed in the proper thread or would that to difficult for you

lubo_moravcik

Alex Thomson's New Blog

Rangers Goes to the Heart of How We Want to Live

Tuesday 24 April 2012
1:12 pm

In a moment some words from Craig Whyte, reacting to the news from Hampden Park and the Scottish Football Association.

But first, I hope to inject a little perspective into everything going on around Rangers and the latest sanctions to be passed against the club – though probably not the last.

First off, we need to say again this is not about football and not about Rangers Football Club either. It is first and foremost about nothing less than the way we want to govern the big institutions of our society.

Put bluntly, do we want our sport to carry on being some kind of athletic version of the sub-prime casino banking mess the UK’s already suffered from? Do we really want that – with everything it entails in terms of rich men walking away and the mortagees/fans getting screwed over yet again?

That’s the Craig Whyte lesson, and reality, clearly. It could turn out to be the David Murray lesson too, on a far grander scale.

Is this what we really want in sport, finance, business – our very culture?

Well, sport, of course, has been turned into a business almost completely. But not quite. It still exists with all the naked cynicism of big business, yet within a framework of external governance which should work or there is no point to it at all.

And say what you like about football’s governing bodies, in Scottish football nobody can deny that at least one has sought to govern in the past 24 hours.

The SFA and it Chief Executive Stewart Regan is a body and a man under pressure.

Under pressure from Holyrood. In an exclusive interview with Channel 4 News, it was Mr Regan who said he’d told the Scottish government to get its tanks off the SFA lawn in no uncertain terms and allow it to govern Scottish football, and not interfering politicians whose actions have been well documented by this programme in recent weeks.

Under pressure too from Uefa. We are told if there is one thing Michel Platini – the Uefa boss – really cares about, it is Financial Fair Play. Very much his project, so far as we can judge. The SFA HQ at Hampden Park knows it is being watched carefully by Uefa, as are Rangers FC in particular, as well they might be. Their imperative to act and seen to be acting, underlined then from Edinburgh and Switzerland.

Pressure too from within these islands but outside Scotland. For too long, to many it appears that the cosy old-boys’ networking and structure between the biggest clubs and the Scottish Premier League, on the one hand, and the Scottish FA on the other, has been allowed to go on unchecked and unremarked upon.

When this programme began questioning why, for example, the current SFA president Campbell Ogilvie did not step aside for form’s sake whilst all the current investigations into Rangers are going on and he was there at the time, our inquiries were met with near-bafflement by the SFA. They still didn’t quite seem to get it, with their own chief exec describing Mr Ogilvie as “heavily conflicted”.

So with all these pressures has come some meaningful action. Rangers supporters will hate it, of course – so would Celtic’s or Aberdeen’s, were this their club. Much of the Glasgow media will focus on whither Rangers? There will be a lot of hand-wringing and blaming, a lot of self-indulgent nonsense about fans being blamed for Craig Whyte’s mishandling of the club. You can see a lot of this out there already this morning – expect a hell of a lot more to come.

But somebody somewhere had to act. Somebody had to do something. Somebody had to send a message that simply allowing anybody to come into football and buy up our clubs just cannot be tolerated without sanction – and obviously that means hitting the clubs concerned. Tough for fans to accept – but impossible for them to deny if they care to pause for thought.

However, the SFA does not emerge with unalloyed glory. True, they have acted. True too that in a recent interview for Channel 4 News, SFA Chief Executive Stewart Regan said they basically took it on trust from Rangers Football Club that Craig Whyte was the man to buy and rescue the club for a pound. We can but hope the SFA are dealing with their own internal mechanisms for dealing with this kind of thing in future whilst doling out punishment externally as appropriate.

Rangers then goes to the heart of how we wish to live and be governed in sport, culture, business and politics too. Do we want rules that are applied to governance? Or do we simply want to drift along in the casino world? Angry and sore though they are, I strongly suspect that Rangers fans will ultimately feel the same as Celtic’s currently smug support does on this key issue.

For this is what it is all really about. Against this, administrations… liquidations… voluntary arrangements… incubator companies… new companies… old companies… Employee Benefit Trusts… side contracts…

None of it really matters except insofar as Rangers’ personal pain, grief and general implosion serves as a clean-up call for football in general and perhaps our wider life beyond.

And whatever happens, in the end hundreds of thousands of folk will still want to support a team based in Govan, wearing blue. That is not going away. And one day they might find themselves playing in a far better-run game than they have known in the past. Today might just be Day One of setting off down this path. We can but hope.

And now for Craig Whyte in a moment or two…

Broxi_Bear_Eire

bobbysands81 wrote: »

When Mark Daly and BBC Scotland told Rangers fans that Craig Whyte was not a fit and proper person to run your club you protested outside BBC Scotland claiming bias against Rangers!!!

Now you're talking about protesting outside Hampden because nobody at the SFA told you that he wasn't a fit and proper person to run the club!!!

Yeah a whole hundred fans if that took part in that protest

lubo_moravcik

Anyone know anything about this?

Taken from gersnet:

" have had it confirmed to me today by the Head of Global Distribution at Henderson Global Investors (John Bennett's employers) that he is "no longer invloved in any way with the Blue Knights syndicate".

Apparently Mr Bennett only confirmed this to Henderson's last evening.

I have a call in to John Bennett himself but for the avoidance of doubt I have no reason to believe that his withdrawal is for anything other than business reasons to do with his employment as per my previous thread on this topic."