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Lidl Greece vs Lidl Ireland

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Wouldn't they have much lesser demand for these things in Greece owing to the warmer climate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭NinjaTruncs


    But they are not the same product.

    Also why did you stop at Lidl Greece, i would say it you checked out Lidl China the clothes airer would be even cheaper, does that mean Greece is a rip off compared to China?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Skopzz wrote: »

    They don't even look like the same product.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    But they are not the same product.

    Also why did you stop at Lidl Greece, i would say it you checked out Lidl China the clothes airer would be even cheaper, does that mean Greece is a rip off compared to China?

    They share the same currency as Ireland & in a similar situation to Ireland. China is not in the Eurozone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Skopzz wrote: »
    They share the same currency as Ireland & in a similar situation to Ireland. China is not in the Eurozone.
    And is Aquapur the same as Vileda?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Can Greece as country even afford €29,99?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭downwithpeace


    Lidl Ireland knows it can make a few more €€ from Ireland, Lidl Greece have to be realistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭WalterMitty


    Skopzz wrote: »
    They share the same currency as Ireland & in a similar situation to Ireland. China is not in the Eurozone.
    That offer in greece could be just down to a glut of that SIMILAR product over there. You cant look at one product in isolation even if its the same chain of stores and identical product as each region/country has its own unique economic structure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    That offer in greece could be just down to a glut of that SIMILAR product over there. You cant look at one product in isolation even if its the same chain of stores and identical product as each region/country has its own unique economic structure.

    Overall, the Lidl prices are similar (but mostly cheaper in Greece). It's easier to compare Greek to Irish prices than it would U.K prices because of closer fundamentals and similar structural reforms being implemented as bailout recipients.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Rent in greece would be much cheaper as would staff wages. These comparisons are completely moot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    minimum wage in Greece is about half what it is here, the standard of living in general is a lot lower than here in general. When you think a litre of petrol is now about €1,80 and many people working a 40 hr week earn about 650 gross per month, I'll take what we have thanks ( although the Greek weather would be nice !)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭WalterMitty


    Skopzz wrote: »
    Overall, the Lidl prices are similar (but mostly cheaper in Greece). It's easier to compare Greek to Irish prices than it would U.K prices because of closer fundamentals and similar structural reforms being implemented as bailout recipients.
    what closer fundamentals? Dont be confusing soverign issues with the commercial sector in both countries. Also any bailout structural reforms are small and insignificant so far, like rent hasnt changed much since bailout , min wage rates are unchanged here, cost of living hasnt changed much etc etc. Foreign multinationals and their staff are one of the few groups in greece actually paying tax and working hard for what they get.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 brnlghln


    efb wrote: »
    Can Greece as country even afford €29,99?

    :pac: It's funny because it's true!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    Maybe its a hint that they have been hung out to dry!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    minimum wage in Greece is about half what it is here, the standard of living in general is a lot lower than here in general. When you think a litre of petrol is now about €1,80 and many people working a 40 hr week earn about 650 gross per month, I'll take what we have thanks ( although the Greek weather would be nice !)

    Not it's not. It's € 751.39 a month:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country

    Their minimum wage is over half of what it is in Ireland at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    I am pie wrote: »
    Rent in greece would be much cheaper as would staff wages. These comparisons are completely moot.

    Not now because Greek rent has skyrocketed and Greek inflation recently hit a 14 year high as well thus pushing up overhead costs dramatically. The comparisons (assuming it's the same brand because it doesn't mention in the description) are more more accurate than comparing it to the U.K or China.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    efb wrote: »
    Can Greece as country even afford €29,99?

    On finance maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    what closer fundamentals? Dont be confusing soverign issues with the commercial sector in both countries. Also any bailout structural reforms are small and insignificant so far, like rent hasnt changed much since bailout , min wage rates are unchanged here, cost of living hasnt changed much etc etc. Foreign multinationals and their staff are one of the few groups in greece actually paying tax and working hard for what they get.

    The ones I just told you in my previous reply to you. Sovereign issues directly impact retail prices because a Government's policies influence the purchasing power of consumers (e.g. rising sales tax or new levies). I'm not trying to compare accounting fundamentals between Ireland and Greece because they're obviously planets apart!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 casinoshop.ie


    Does the OP realise that Vileda is a leading high quality brand in the floor cleaning area and always sells at a premium price due to its premium quality? And Aquapur is a Lidl own brand?

    €30 for a Vileda air dryer is an exceptional price as similar models sell for £50+ in the UK.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭marketty


    You have Lidl to be doing OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    The situations in Ireland and Greece are not directly comparable.
    Wages in Greece are lower, industry mix is totally different, productivity levels couldn't be more different. They're not similar other than having debt crises for two different reasons!

    Clothes airers are also much more commonly used in hotter countries with many apartments with balconies . Irish and UK homes use outdoor washing lines and tumble dryers far more than Greece. It's likely that Greeks actually know how much a clothes airer should cost and regularly buy them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    This is like comparing a Brabantia bin to a noname Aldi/Lidl brand bin of similar shape.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Not even the same product.
    Why did you start this thread op?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,227 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    It's too much like hard work trying to get people to understand that all EU countries aren't identical.

    Anyway, the Greeks are too busy hanging people out to dry at the moment, the laundry's the last thing on their minds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    Does the OP realize that Vileda is a leading high quality brand in the floor cleaning area and always sells at a premium price due to its premium quality? And Aquapur is a Lidl own brand?

    €30 for a Vileda air dryer is an exceptional price as similar models sell for £50+ in the UK.

    How do you know it's Aquapur? From what I can see, it doesn't mention the brand name on the Greek page. Even if Vileda sells for GBP50.00 in britain, it doesn't mean it would sell for that price in Ireland because the Irish market is a price sensitive one. The U.K is different, remember.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    marketty wrote: »
    You have Lidl to be doing OP

    Hey marketty, why don't you become more constructive in your comments?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    These are two different products :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    Solair wrote: »
    The situations in Ireland and Greece are not directly comparable.
    Wages in Greece are lower, industry mix is totally different, productivity levels couldn't be more different. They're not similar other than having debt crises for two different reasons!

    Clothes airers are also much more commonly used in hotter countries with many apartments with balconies . Irish and UK homes use outdoor washing lines and tumble dryers far more than Greece. It's likely that Greeks actually know how much a clothes airer should cost and regularly buy them.

    Greece is similar to Ireland because we can compare prices due to the same currency and similar situations we both face. I wouldn't guess the Greeks know how much a clothes airer should cost because Lidl clearly sets the price here. Lidl Ireland is much more expensive than Greece which is the point.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Not even the same product.
    Why did you start this thread op?

    Assuming it is the same product. How do you figure it's a different product?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Skopzz wrote: »
    Assuming it is the same product. How do you figure it's a different product?

    Um, I look at picture and see it is different.

    How you figure it is the same?



    (ps. I mean you are not comparing two of the exact same items. Obviously they are both driers :cool:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    patwicklow wrote: »
    Maybe its a hint that they have been hung out to dry!

    Probably because they've been forced to bail out ponzie bankers. :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    amdublin wrote: »
    Um, I look at picture and see it is different.

    How you figure it is the same?



    (ps. I mean you are not comparing two of the exact same items. Obviously they are both driers :cool:)

    But that's it, one cannot tell whether or not it's a different product by simply relying on the picture. Lidl give pictures that are often different than what the item appears in the store.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    They are not the same product.
    The descriptions are different, the accessories are different, the sizes are different and the pictures are different. And this is the shocking bit, the prices are different.

    Why bother even starting a thread in the first place :confused:

    Edit:
    This is the irish one at €19.99 ...same as the greek one. Maybe do some proper research before starting a thread in future?
    http://www.lidl.ie/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_ri_ie/hs.xsl/index_16889.htm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    Skopzz wrote: »
    Greece is similar to Ireland because we can compare prices due to the same currency and similar situations we both face. I wouldn't guess the Greeks know how much a clothes airer should cost because Lidl clearly sets the price here. Lidl Ireland is much more expensive than Greece which is the point.

    They are similar situations in one way only, so the debt bubble. I the two economies are actually hugely different. You'd be struggling to find two EU countries less similar to be quite honest.

    Comparing Ireland and Spain would be slightly more realistic.


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Skopzz wrote: »
    How do you know it's Aquapur? From what I can see, it doesn't mention the brand name on the Greek page.

    I suggest you scroll down a fraction on that page before making statements that only serve to further weaken your argument.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    snubbleste wrote: »
    They are not the same product.
    The descriptions are different, the accessories are different, the sizes are different and the pictures are different. And this is the shocking bit, the prices are different.

    Why bother even starting a thread in the first place :confused:

    Edit:
    This is the irish one at €19.99 ...same as the greek one. Maybe do some proper research before starting a thread in future?
    http://www.lidl.ie/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_ri_ie/hs.xsl/index_16889.htm


    You pasted a link to Lidl Ireland - that wasn't Lidl GREECE.

    The issue is not Lidl Ireland to Lidl Ireland prices - rather it is Lidl Ireland to Lidl Greece.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    Zaph wrote: »
    I suggest you scroll down a fraction on that page before making statements that only serve to further weaken your argument.

    Thanks. I did read the Greek page but either they had since updated it or I lost my glasses. Guess we should call this thread quits.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Pointless thread closed, I guess.


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