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Went to tax the new camper today

  • 09-02-2012 12:42pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭


    Hi guys.
    went in to tax the camper today bought a 00 sprinter already reg as a camper.
    Handed over the log book.
    Lady said theres no weight on the log book
    I need to bring the camper in for the tax office to see it in order to tax it?

    Whats the story with the above 2?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭dickwod1


    AFAIK if its a van conversion they want to inspect it to make sure its not a van being taxed as a camper on the cheap ... if its a camper youve no probs quick look inside and all will be good I believe you need to contact the tax office to arrange this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 old westie


    blahblah06 wrote: »
    Hi guys.
    went in to tax the camper today bought a 00 sprinter already reg as a camper.
    Handed over the log book.
    Lady said theres no weight on the log book
    I need to bring the camper in for the tax office to see it in order to tax it?

    Whats the story with the above 2?


    Same happened me in 2008 they have to make a visual sighting. So you arrange with motor tax and take the MH into tax office car park. Its crazy but it has to be done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    Thats mad though even though its already registered as a camper? do u make a time appointment rather then just arriving and waiting for ages?
    what about no weight on the log book will they query that ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭Malta1


    if its already registered as a camper, can it be taxed on line? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    Umm must check that..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭cipro 55


    Is it uk or irish or a conversion that was never taxed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    Are you saying that it's been taxed in this country before as a camper?

    If yes, then surely a ticket from the weigh bridge people (Usually council) sent, with the log book and a covering letter asking them to amend the same,to the tax office at Shannon would do the trick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭dickwod1


    Best off ringing local tax office, getting inspection and weight added to the log book and from next year on they send you pin and you have online tax renewal and end of any messing about for you or if you sell on the next owner ... happy days then :D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    cipro 55 wrote: »
    Is it uk or irish or a conversion that was never taxed?

    Brought in from the uk in 08 and taxed for 08-10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    dickwod1 wrote: »
    Best off ringing local tax office, getting inspection and weight added to the log book and from next year on they send you pin and you have online tax renewal and end of any messing about for you or if you sell on the next owner ... happy days then :D.

    Is there any min or max weight a camper should be? Would the van weighed at any truck place be enough?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭defike


    Brought mine in as a panel van in '09.
    They had me weigh it at Irish cement on the Naas road/belgard rd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    The VRT people in Castlebar sent me to the Council weighbridge and as it was for official purposes there was no charge!.
    I don't know what the weighbridge people charge but perhaps this is worth knowing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭cipro 55


    blahblah06 wrote: »
    Brought in from the uk in 08 and taxed for 08-10


    Was it brought in as a camper or a panel van?:confused:l


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    ive no idea. but it is reg as a camper on the log book. I suppose ill go to the local weight bridge place and just hand them the copy when taxing it.
    Does it have to be a certain weight to be a camper


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭cipro 55


    blahblah06 wrote: »
    ive no idea. but it is reg as a camper on the log book. I suppose ill go to the local weight bridge place and just hand them the copy when taxing it.
    Does it have to be a certain weight to be a camper


    Don't think so, Just checked my reg cert no weight on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    If it was imported as a Camper then VRT was due. Due you have a VRT receipt ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    No vrt receipt. How do I check this? Surely if it's on Irish reg n reg as a camper it's ok?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    This is all very strange.

    Just looked at my log book (Reg. Cert.).
    In the code descriptions I assume that F1 is to do with weight? It says "Permissible Mass (GVW)(Kg).
    On my camper cert it just has the number "1", on my car cert it has "5555555". Neither of these mean anything to me!.

    See how yours looks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    mine is just blank with no numbers at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    Right, so I guess that the "1" on mine is a code of sorts.
    My camper weight was 1110kg. ( light weight 2 berth).

    Perhaps we can now hear from somebody else as to the detalis on their cert and the weight of camper and compare.

    It is obviously not the weight itself that goes on the cert.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 tom22413


    Right, so I guess that the "1" on mine is a code of sorts.
    My camper weight was 1110kg. ( light weight 2 berth).

    Perhaps we can now hear from somebody else as to the detalis on their cert and the weight of camper and compare.

    It is obviously not the weight itself that goes on the cert.

    some info here, https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/264221/163121.jpg

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72771745#post72771745


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    Hi blahblah06,

    I think I might see where the problem is.

    If you look at the codes on page 2 of your cert, in the top section (J) is there anything other than M.

    If so this would be the problem. M is the correct class for campervans/motorhomes, anything else on it would refer to commercial vehicles and probably/possibly require weight.

    If it is not M you will need to get on to the Department of Transport, Shannon, Co Clare, as most of us owners did a year or so ago, and ask them to change it which they should do quite happily free of charge.

    Hopefully this will be the problem and it's easy to solve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭cipro 55


    Irishgoatman,
    If you look at the codes on page 2 of your cert, in the top section (J) is there anything other than M.


    Mine has N1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    Anything other than M is wrong.

    N1 is a commercial classification.

    When I bought my camper I noticed this and got on to Shannon to have it changed. Most/all of the camper owners who come on this thread did the same.

    Just ring Shannon to check on the dept to send it to and include a covering letter.

    Not saying that this will solve blahblah06's problem, but it might.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 johnnyboomboom


    Anything other than M is wrong.

    N1 is a commercial classification.

    When I bought my camper I noticed this and got on to Shannon to have it changed. Most/all of the camper owners who come on this thread did the same.

    Just ring Shannon to check on the dept to send it to and include a covering letter.

    Not saying that this will solve blahblah06's problem, but it might.

    as far as i know all campers will have to pass a D.O.E.since 01 jan 2012, before you can tax it. is this correct?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    as far as i know all campers will have to pass a D.O.E.since 01 jan 2012, before you can tax it. is this correct?

    There's a sticky at the top of the Motorhome page regarding this.

    "Minister signs....."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    Sorry,

    I should have added on my post #25 that this is providing that (D2) in the top section of the Reg Cert reads "Motorcaravan".

    If it doesn't then you have problems!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    Mine also says n1. I'll ring Shannon in the morning and let use know thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭defike


    Mine also says N1.But further dowm D-3 it says motorcaravan.
    I don't see the problem with N1.
    I tax it online everyyear no problem.
    No actual van weight on document other than maximun permissible weight 3300kg.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    defike wrote: »
    Mine also says N1.But further dowm D-3 it says motorcaravan.
    I don't see the problem with N1.
    I tax it online everyyear no problem.
    No actual van weight on document other than maximun permissible weight 3300kg.

    That's fine that you can tax it but N1 is a commercial classification which could be why the weight is on the cert.

    blahblah06's problem might be that the weight isn't shown.

    My cert was ammended to M which relates under EU ruling to a private motorcaravan, and no weight is shown on my cert.

    I had mine changed because I saw no reason why anything to do with commercial vehicles should be on it. It could raise all sorts of problems, possible as blahblah is finding out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭niloc1951


    N1 = commercial vehicle, can/could cause problems especially with automated systems which take the vehicle category from the central vehicle database at Shannon to determine appropriate 'action'.
    One that comes to mind is the charge for tolls which are much higher for N1 category vehicles. Wrong categorisation can/could also cause problems with speed limit policing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    niloc1951 wrote: »
    N1 = commercial vehicle, can/could cause problems especially with automated systems which take the vehicle category from the central vehicle database at Shannon to determine appropriate 'action'.
    One that comes to mind is the charge for tolls which are much higher for N1 category vehicles. Wrong categorisation can/could also cause problems with speed limit policing.

    Yes I did say it could cause all sorts of problems but we don't want to badger people if they're happy do we:).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    Ok lads an update...
    My car tax was due so I sent that in along with an application for the camper tax last Thursday via post.
    I got a call yesterday from the tax office to say the camper tax is not 95 it's 104 due to a back month and I'd have it in 2-3 days..
    So obviously somebody wasn't minding what they were doing in the back office and just taxed it for me without having to bring it to the tax office :-)

    I also rang Shannon about the m category and a lady supervisor called Anne Crowley told me to send it to her with a copy of a letter stating what needs changing and she would do it for me.
    So it's all looking good.
    Insurance and tax went through yesterday
    €341 for insurance €104 for tax.
    Not bad at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    Hi blahblah06,

    Glad it's all sorted.

    Happy motoring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    Just an update got the log book back today with category M now in place.
    4 new camper tyres fitted yesterday so I'm ready to rock


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭WildWater


    blahblah06 wrote: »
    Just an update got the log book back today with category M now in place.
    4 new camper tyres fitted yesterday so I'm ready to rock

    Good for you, hope you have a great season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    blahblah06 wrote: »
    Just an update got the log book back today with category M now in place.
    4 new camper tyres fitted yesterday so I'm ready to rock


    That's good, all we need now is a bit of reliable weather!!!

    Enjoy:).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Des32


    Or a boat !


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