MTV's 25 hottest MC's (commercial MC's!)

mufcboy1999

MTV has rolled out it's 25 '2011 Hottest MC List' candidates. That number will be pared down to the top 10.

Next week we'll find out 10-6, with the top five coming on a special roundtable show on Sunday, February 19th at 10:30 p.m. EST on MTV2.

Peep the list below.

2 Chainz
50 Cent
Big Sean
Common
Drake
Eminem
Fabolous
French Montana
Jadakiss
JAY-Z
Jim Jones
Kanye West
Lil Wayne
Lloyd Banks
Maino
Meek Mill
Nas
Nicki Minaj
Red Café
Rick Ross
T.I.
Wale
Wiz Khalifa
Yelawolf
Young Jeezy

joke of a list imo, some really questionable candidates for the award.

Eminem won it last year, i personally think kendrick lamar should win it but he's not even in the list which is laughable to say the least. No sign of j.cole either who had a number 1 album, it was average but still

Bad list bar a few but as i said its a commercial award so dont be surprised not to see a few of your favorite rappers.

i was going to do a poll to see who ye think deserves it but i genuinely cant pick a rapper out of this list that i think deserves it, what do ye think ?:)

baddebt

wouldn't take too much notice of anything regarding MTV ,
the minute yo mtv raps went the whole concept of the channel changed.

conor.hogan.2

2 Chainz - who?
50 Cent
Big Sean - No. why? what?
Common
Drake - ok, I suppose
Eminem
Fabolous - Where has he been?
French Montana - who?
Jadakiss
JAY-Z
Jim Jones - no
Kanye West
Lil Wayne
Lloyd Banks - no
Maino - who?
Meek Mill - who?
Nas
Nicki Minaj - No, seriously?
Red Café - who?
Rick Ross - "you a fake gangsta reppin the mexican mafia you aint a boss, you rick ross - correctional officer"
T.I. - no
Wale - Double no.
Wiz Khalifa - Who cares anymore.
Yelawolf
Young Jeezy - No.

I would have to give it to Nas out of that list.

mufcboy1999

baddebt wrote: »

wouldn't take too much notice of anything regarding MTV ,
the minute yo mtv raps went the whole concept of the channel changed.

ye i dont really either mate but i always have a bit of interest in things like this no matter how commercially influenced they are. not just mtv but i hardly watch any of the music channels anymore the hip hop played on them is mostly just not to my liking.

mtv base or as it use to be called beats,rhymes & life, i think it had another name before that too but it was decent enough with trevor nelson, its beyond a joke these days though.

iv only ever saw clips of episodes of yo mtv raps on the internet, never caught it live as i never had mtv until a bit later until the early 00's aswell as being a bit young when it finished.

im well aware of how influential and entertaining it was though.

mufcboy1999

I would have to give it to Nas out of that list.

this is the thing man, nas has released very little in 2011 honestly cant understand him being in the list.

dont get me wrong we all know how good a mc nas is but its suppose to based on material released in 2011, we got 1 single from nas and maybe 1 or 2 bits more as far as i can remember so imo he shouldnt even be mentioned for 2011.

i really cant pick though from that list, not even eminem deserves it for his album with royce imo or jay z and kanye for WTT.

the only person i think genuinely deserves it, isnt in the list.

conor.hogan.2

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

this is the thing man, nas has released very little in 2011 honestly cant understand him being in the list.

dont get me wrong we all know how good a mc nas is but its suppose to based on material released in 2011, we got 1 single from nas and maybe 1 or 2 bits more as far as i can remember so imo he shouldnt even be mentioned for 2011.

i really cant pick though from that list, not even eminem deserves it for his album with royce imo or jay z and kanye for WTT.

the only person i think genuinely deserves it, isnt in the list.

As I said of those on the list I would have to give it to Nas, I agree if Lamars album was released in 2011 (which I imagine it was) then that would easily win it for him if he was on the list but hes not.

Exactly bad meets evil was meh and WTT was alright, so Nas kind of wins by default imo.

mufcboy1999

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

As I said of those on the list I would have to give it to Nas, I agree if Lamars album was released in 2011 (which I imagine it was) then that would easily win it for him if he was on the list but hes not.

Exactly bad meets evil was meh and WTT was alright, so Nas kind of wins by default imo.

ye i get you, its a tough choice. look forward to seeing how they judge this one and the reason behind some of the choices as there's going to be rappers eliminated to get the top 10 and the final next sunday will be down to the last 5.

just thinking their too, fair enough the red album was poor enough but game released too much content not to be mentioned with mixtapes and the album he released in 2011.

Common, the album wasnt great and was a very late 2011 release starting to think he is only mentioned because of the drake beef too because he isnt as commercially popular as he use to be.

Ask me who i think will win, my moneys on rick ross or drake.:rolleyes:

conor.hogan.2

If it is anything like the panel they had for top 5 or 10 of all time, it will be a waste of time to watch.

Good to see though.

I would saw Ross, Drake or Wayne will win not that they should though.

Jimmy Iovine

If Em is on it then Royce deserves to be on it as well.

50 put out a pretty poor mixtape, big no.

Fab put out a very average mixtape, no again.

I thought T.I. was still in prison?

Red Café - who or what is that? I thought for a second it was the Man United forum.

I don't know more than half the people on that.

As was mentioned already where is J Cole? Also Big K.R.I.T. should be in there. But going on that list it's probably best off that they aren't.

PrettyBoy

Wasn't really into Fabolous most recent mixtape but really enjoyed 'The Soul Tape' he released earlier this year.

Common is only there because of his pathetic beef with Drake.

Is 50 there because of The Big 10 mixtape? Really?

Agree with Jimmy, Eminem is there but why isn't Royce?

T.I. dropped a mixtape very late in the year, a few good tracks but nothing amazing to be fair.

No Kendrick, J. Cole, ASAP Rocky, Big K.R.I.T.? Who came up with this list? It's a good thing MTV is completely irrelevant these days.

Jimmy Iovine

I forgot about the Soul Tape. Fab's other offering on Christmas Day was very poor though. Definitely not enough to get him on this list.

Curren$y is someone I'd have higher than most on this list but he'd never make it on there because no one knows who he is and if they did they'd probably say (as my friend did) that Wiz Khalifa/Kid Cudi is better. It's a sad world.

Mikeyt086

2 Chainz - No (Dont like him, seems to be getting bigger in the US but I dont know why)
50 Cent - No (3 or 4 good tracks in the last 3 or 4 years.)
Big Sean - Yes (I like him)
Common - Yes
Drake - Yes
Eminem - Yes (Would rather Royce)
Fabolous - Yes
French Montana - No (think he is absoulte ****)
Jadakiss - No (I like him, but cant think of a track recently Ive liked)
JAY-Z - Yes
Jim Jones - No (Seriously? So bad)
Kanye West - Yes
Lil Wayne - Yes
Lloyd Banks - Yes
Maino - No (not a fan)
Meek Mill - Yes (Dont really like MMG but he had a good year, loved Dreamchasers)
Nas - Yes
Nicki Minaj - No (Dont really like her)
Red Café - No (I know who he is haha, but meh)
Rick Ross - No (Dont like him)
T.I. - Yes
Wale - Yes (I like him, guess Im in the minority there)
Wiz Khalifa - Yes
Yelawolf - Yes
Young Jeezy - Yes

Dont really care if I'm too commercial or anything, I like what I like. I thought it would be 100% obvious that most on this forum would have no interest and give no credibility to that list so Im surprised to see a thread on it. Its not a great list to be fair.

Mr. Rager

Well that's fúcked up. Worst rapper on that would have to be French Montana, the man is one of the lowest skilled MCs I've heard in a long time. Suprised about K.Lamar, didn't like his album as much as others but he still deserved to be there. Funny how Common's beef with Drake actually worked for him, he wouldn't be there otherwise.

MoyVilla9

Hottest =/= best unfortunately.

I couldn't even tell you who is hot anymore. Drake, Nicki, whoever. It has all descended into one big noise.

bigpoppa

quickly scanned it and noticed lil wayne in there and moved on , clearly without any credibility....

mufcboy1999

I thought it would be 100% obvious that most on this forum would have no interest and give no credibility to that list so Im surprised to see a thread on it. Its not a great list to be fair.

I started the thread to get people talking about it. I knew most wouldnt be happy about it but i posted it the last 2 years here so why not this year, even if it means us getting a laugh or whatever out of their so called number 1 MC or their could be someone genuinely interested to see who gets it, but this for me is a reflection of how bad the commercial hip hop scene has become.

but look at least it sparks a bit of activity on a forum that can be quiet enough most of the time bar the last month or 2 in fairness where its been good.

Bobby Baccala

Ridiculous how only 4-5 of the people listed there actually are MCs, the rest aren't they're rappers and shitty pop artists that don't belong in any top 25 list.

conor.hogan.2

Looks like it is a good thing I don't know half this list because if some of them are worse than Big Sean and Wale then they must be really really bad.

Lil Wayne is actually one of the more credible artists on that list, even though I am not a fan of his.

Boom_Bap

No Justin Bieber, sh*t list.

MoyVilla9

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Red Café - who?

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Red Café - who or what is that? I thought for a second it was the Man United forum.

All I know Red Cafe for is for Paper Touchin', then G-Unit used the beat for one of their promotional mixtapes for T.O.S.

conor.hogan.2

Cheers.

Fat Joe though, smh.

Bobby Baccala

I'd give it to jay or common, Jay has done well for himself in the past year so he deserves it and he'd rap circles around most of the people on that list and common just because his last album was quality and if he wins that there will be a lot of attention brought to him, nas doesn't deserve it, he's releasing fairly shitty stuff lately, haven't a clue why he's on that list, the rest of the people bar eminem and kanye are muck.

Nicki minaj is awful, and she's not an MC, haven't a breeze why she's on that list

conor.hogan.2

I love Common but there is one and only one reason he is on that list, and it is not because of his album.

baddebt

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Nicki minaj is awful, and she's not an MC,

MTV say Nicki Minaj .......
We say ....Jean Grae

Mr. Rager

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Nicki minaj is awful, and she's not an MC, haven't a breeze why she's on that list

Seems to me that there's only one reason.

Dat. Ass.

mufcboy1999

in fairness to red cafe, he has a few outright bangers. he's been around years, he's alright imo, not the best rapper you will ever hear by any means but does come up with something decent every now and then.

listen to a few of these, the mans got a serious ear for beats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmy-XQxhoTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPrtcjnsJ5E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmN5kvMA7MU

conor.hogan.2

Ye shout out to the producer/beat maker.

Osmosis Jones

In all fairness MTV shouldnt even be looked at for anything to do with Hip Hop, this is the channel where they document birthday parties and pregnant teens you know..

mufcboy1999

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Ye shout out to the producer/beat maker.

lol he isnt the of mc's il say that.:)

Boom_Bap

Red Cafe has caught my attention a few times, sometimes for impressing me, others questioning whether he actually did impress me.

My take on it is, he is striving hard to be on lists like this and be in the limelight, but he finds it hard to compromise his music for this.

He needs to decide what direction he wants, the love of music, or the love of money......and probably a name change as well

I also think I've aired my opinion of Nikki Minaj on this forum enough, baddebt is spot on with his comment. I'd also throw Dessa in the mix.

When i saw Common on the list, my initial reaction was the same as conor, but on relflection, he is quite famous in the US of A outside of music for his acting and whatever else. He appears on all them housewives shows like Oprah and Ellen so people do love him. And he also released a solid album last year.

Jimmy Iovine

healthbadger wrote: »

its all about big sean and J cole 2012

Hugh Cream

Lists like this are compiled to generate debate, which this one in particular does.
Usually they get it wrong but ocassionally they get it right.

Bobby Baccala

Hugh Cream wrote: »

Lists like this are compiled to generate debate, which this one in particular does.
Usually they get it wrong but ocassionally they get it right.

Do you think they got it right this time hugh?

mufcboy1999

wale comes in at number 10 .:D

cant post the videos or watch it as its restricted to america, anyone know where to watch them?

conor.hogan.2

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

wale comes in at number 10 .:D

cant post the videos or watch it as its restricted to america, anyone know where to watch them?

If Wale is 10 then I don't want to watch it tbh.

Shapey Fiend

MTV's awards have always been compromised, but people still care because they put on a big show. Last thing I watched was the thing in Belfast, was it the EMA's? Every artist that won an award was owned by Viacom.

mufcboy1999

big sean number 9

like a dog i cant watch the videos because they have to giver their reasons for picking them etc, would be interesting/funny to hear them.

http://www.diversehiphop.com/blog/2012/02/big-sean-9-on-mtvs-2011-hottest-mcs-list/

Hugh Cream

Ross #1 .Drake #2 .Minaj #4 .Wayne #5

Hot list, completely agree .

mufcboy1999

Hugh Cream wrote: »

Ross #1 .Drake #2 .Minaj #4 .Wayne #5

Hot list, completely agree .

Who's number 3 Hugh?

conor.hogan.2

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Who's number 3 Hugh?

Kayne, the only decent one on the list along with Jayz who is 6th.

Hugh Cream

In all honesty, as I've said before, these lists are made more to generate debate, the problem being I think people have figured that out and are no longer shocked.
I'd like to know what case was made for kanye being number 3 and jay 6.
Wouldnt it be argued that both were apart of the same project, both receiving the same amount of what ever it takes to make the list.

Says a lot that the go to guy for a verse this year was Chris brown.

conor.hogan.2

The real question should be what was the case made for the other 18 people (people/entertainers/singers/r&b acts/rappers) and not Jay and Kayne.

RiseToTheTop

Commercial Hip-Hop really has gone down the ****ing drain.

It was good before, but this confirms it. I'm really really glad I don't have MTV.

HATCHET IRL

Who really gives a f**k about mtv, stupid list..

RiseToTheTop

HATCHET IRL wrote: »

Who really gives a f**k about mtv, stupid list..

I know, but commercial hip-hop in all.

D4L "Laffy Taffy" was released 6 years ago, which was 6 years after 2000 when Hip-Hop was still on top of it's game. **** all has changed in the last 6 years.

Bobby Baccala

what the fúck kind of top 5 is that? they picked 4 people who can't actually rap and one half decent rapper.

I wonder when MTV will realise there's a difference between an MC and a rapper.

mufcboy1999

Yep just as I expected so ,at least no one really takes it serious.

MTV has slowly turned commercial hip hop in to what is today a joke.

Now we literally have talentless to average rappers Being classed as Mc's.

Commercial hip hop is dead and has been for a few years now.

Bobby Baccala

MTV went from Yo! MTV raps to this ****, makes you think where they went wrong.

Hugh Cream

hate to be the bearer of bad news, but rap has always had its share of talentless and average rappers.

conor.hogan.2

Hugh Cream wrote: »

hate to be the bearer of bad news, but rap has always had its share of talentless and average rappers.

Yes but they faded out quickly and did not stick around for 10 years and grow in fame (Lil Wayne) and by the looks of it Drake and Ross will be worse.

Hugh Cream

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Yes but they faded out quickly and did not stick around for 10 years and grow in fame (Lil Wayne) and by the looks of it Drake and Ross will be worse.

I suppose ye.