Dog Dirt Problem

nomesc

Anyone else fed up with the amount of dog dirt around. Can't go for a walk without telling the children "watch out for the poo" every couple of minutes. Anyone know if there is anything that can be done. Problem is really bad in Littlepace. Please dog owners clean up after your dogs

hunglikeaflee

With you on this.

I live in Little Pace and any evening you go for a walk at the football pitches you see people walking dogs off leads and not picking up poo.

One evening a couple told how disgusting all the dog poo was while their dog was let to run free. I pointed this out to them and they told me their dog only dose it at home. What a load of crap. (Sorry for the pun)

Diddler1977

I pick up up after my dog ALL the time.

But judging by the amount of poop on the streets there is a lot of people who don't. Dirty things :mad:

slavedave

I walk our dog every day in the park adjacent to the N3 (and let him off the lead). I was only contemplating the lack of occasions over the last year where I have fallen victim to a stealth turd in the long grass (and I run all over the place trying to train / restrain our mutt). I have been very fortunate to have avoided any mishaps... until yesterday morning when I slipped /skidded in a liquid landmine on the concrete pathway. Not a happy bunny! We take out bags with us on walks to deal with our doggie's delightful drop-offs so I am doubly dumbfounded by owners who turn a blind eye. Unfortunately, there are no depository bins here unlike in the Hazelbury greenspace, which I think goes some way to encouraging dog owners to take responsibility. Bottom line is that some owners will never clear up after their pets ablutions unfortunately and there is no way that we are going to see any fines imposed on them irrespective of the signage around the estates to indicate otherwise.
Having got 4 kids myself (who all use bikes, scooters etc) and a wife who child minds (with a buggy) I have to say I HATE the state of the pavements and paths along the main Pace Road. Let's just say I am regularly called into hose and brush duty :mad:

oblivious

It is an finable offence, maybe it needs the public to report it more to help get the message home

rolion

I've stopped going in the greens here due to smell and poo around !
After a rain,the air is so infected with the poo and pee smell that almost makes me sick !
I love dogs but i've end up hating evey dog/dog owner after my junior entered in the car with poo on his shoes ! Took me weeks to take off that smell off my nose !! WTF do they feed those poor animals !???

Now next good one is my lovely neighbour got a dog for his kids,i guess ! Every morning,7'50 they put the poor animal outside for a good barking and mad crying !! No need for the fcuking alarm no more ! Then,at 8'50 the dog goes back in the house ! And that's mon to sun ! Killer...
I want to say to my neighbour:just got a nice pet scary ultrasound device ...every day that will be powered,i feel sorry for the puppy but you be prepared to pay for the consequences !!!
Enough is enough...

hunglikeaflee

slavedave wrote: »

I walk our dog every day in the park adjacent to the N3 (and let him off the lead).

Letting a dog off the lead is illegal and I would ask you not do it please. There are numerous people that have a genuine fear of dogs me included and it is thoughtless people like you that keep people like me from enjoying our open spaces.

Have some consideration for others.

(Sorry OP I don’t want to hi-jack this thread I know it started about poo not leads.)

rsole1

My dog wears a nappy when out in public - and when it's full I just feck it over a hedge.

Ellis Dee

I always use a poo bag to clean up after my dog, as do most people in Helsinki, where I spend about half the time. However, there is a minority of dirty people who don't clean up.


Sadly. those most likely to suffer from that are their own pets -which are much more likely to catch diseases from poo in the environment than are people.

Mind you, some people are pigs anyway, and appealing to their sense of decency is a waste of time. Tough fines and effective enforcement are the answer.

Jesus Shaves

hunglikeaflee wrote: »

Letting a dog off the lead is illegal and I would ask you not do it please.

hahahahahaha:D

No it isn't, I bring my dog out all the time off the lead, that way she gets proper excercise, she's a boxer.

ThisRegard

hunglikeaflee wrote: »

Letting a dog off the lead is illegal and I would ask you not do it please.

No it's not, this idea seems to permeate all over boards.

BostonB

Seems like dog dirt is a problem all over. Even in the phoenix park its the same on the paths and closed roads. All the roads to the local school its the same. That said I do see some owners cleaning up as they go fair play. But in general I think its a big problem.

Jesus Shaves

Well maybe there should be parks specially for dogs so.

JCabot

I live in a little town where a serial crapper operates, many an evening I would step out of my office door to put my foot in a load left in center of the pavement. Only months after I moved did I finally indentified the culpriit with his jack russel. It doesn't bother me much anymore and hes well connected in the council offices so not sure what I can do about.

Frere_Jaques

We also walk our dog around both Hazelbury & the park down at Littlepace and always pick up after him. What confuses me is the sight of bagfuls of the stuff discarded beside the park entrances... why pick it up and then dump it rather than dropping it into the bin?!

There are some really good dog owners (and dogs!) around the area but unfortunately it seems to be a prevalent issue across many places and not just our area, some people just don't care.

Nothing wrong with letting the dog off lead, common sense rules obviously.

hunglikeaflee

ThisRegard wrote: »

No it's not, this idea seems to permeate all over boards.

If it is not, I apologize. The reason I said it was, is that Last Sunday while out in that park a Garda told a couple with a collie to put the dog on a lead as it was illegal to have a dog in a public area off a lead.

It still dose not get away from the fact that it is not fare on people that have a fear of dogs. Why should I have to suffer?

Gaspode

rsole1 wrote: »

My dog wears a nappy when out in public - and when it's full I just feck it over a hedge.

It's best not to admit in public to breaking the law. I'ts almost as dumb as breaking the law in the first place.

Boards.ie does not condone illegal activities including the dumping of litter in hedges. Any further remarks like that will land you in the doggy do.

Diddler1977

hunglikeaflee wrote: »

If it is not, I apologize. The reason I said it was, is that Last Sunday while out in that park a Garda told a couple with a collie to put the dog on a lead as it was illegal to have a dog in a public area off a lead.

It still dose not get away from the fact that it is not fare on people that have a fear of dogs. Why should I have to suffer?

I think the law is that you must have control of your dog (if you have a dog on a led you most certainly have control of them).

Many people would have control of their dog even when not on the lead.

nomesc

I know there are some dog owners that clean up. I know some people that take sandwich bags and others that take nappy bags and carry it home. I do think more litter bins or poo disposal bins are needed.

As far as I am aware it is illegal to have a dog off a lead in a public place and that is according to dog owners that I know.But in saying that I have seen dogs let out to roam the street some mornings.

I just think it's terrible we can't let our children run around freely. My husband has even thrown shoes out over it. :mad:

Jesus Shaves

nomesc wrote: »

My husband has even thrown shoes out over it. :mad:

:eek:

keanooo

hunglikeaflee wrote: »

If it is not, I apologize. The reason I said it was, is that Last Sunday while out in that park a Garda told a couple with a collie to put the dog on a lead as it was illegal to have a dog in a public area off a lead.

It still dose not get away from the fact that it is not fare on people that have a fear of dogs. Why should I have to suffer?

It's not natural for dogs to be restrained on a lead all the time. They need to be let free to socialise.

Gaspode

On lead/off lead is not the issue here. Leave it be

ThisRegard

darokane wrote: »

Well maybe there should be parks specially for dogs so.

Or one for humans afraid of dogs.

There are such areas, one in Marlay Park and more recently one in being rolled out on a pilot basis in the Millennium Park.

Jesus Shaves

ThisRegard wrote: »

Or one for humans afraid of dogs.

There are such areas, one in Marlay Park and more recently one in being rolled out on a pilot basis in the Millennium Park.

Agreed, There should be no go areas for dogs also

zef

Why can't you let your children run around freely?

nomesc

zef wrote: »

Why can't you let your children run around freely?

Because there is so much dog dirt around. Constantly have to watch where they walk. Only dog dirt free place is the back garden as front gardens are open plan and there are dogs that are let roam. As another person said the football pitch in littlepace is covered.

rolion

nomesc wrote: »

Because there is so much dog dirt around. Constantly have to watch where they walk. Only dog dirt free place is the back garden as front gardens are open plan and there are dogs that are let roam. As another person said the football pitch in littlepace is covered.

Just try to go to that football pitch after a good rain,to test your smelling performance !!!
Is mad,is absolutely disrespect and careless,all the dog owners to other people ! My kids want a dog,this is a reason to stay away from owning a dog...

Jesus Shaves

rolion wrote: »

Just try to go to that football pitch after a good rain,to test your smelling performance !!!
Is mad,is absolutely disrespect and careless,all the dog owners to other people ! My kids want a dog,this is a reason to stay away from owning a dog...

You're going to deny your kids the joy of owning a dog because you're afraid of a little dog poop?

:rolleyes:

yoda2001

I have noticed a new dog phenomenon. In the park where I live I come across a lot of little plastic bags with the dog do in them. People pick up the stuff but then just dump the bag as they walk along, leaving offending plastic as well.

To those of you out walking with your dogs, casually stopping as the dog has a sniff of the grass: he is poking his nose in the excrement of the dogs that have passed previously. Think of that as he licks your face. Or licks your kids face.

nomesc

Nightmare. Someone's dog decided to use our garden. Seriously pee'd off now. Other half was on to fingal before that and they said they would increase wardens but all I can see is an increase in the dirt not wardend

zef

Have a neighbour who comes out any time of the day or night with his large dogs and lets them run & crap all over the estate.
It bugs me on 3 counts, 1) waking us up/ or can't sleep due to his shouting and roaring after midnight. At night time he is pretty well on & has loud convos with himself/ the dogs / on his phone.
2) Dog sh*t everywhere.
3) His large dogs have chased my cat (who is 'disabled' & and sat in the garden for an hour or 2 each day minding his own business , he is neutered & dosen't ramble , before the anti-cat brigade pipe up.He stays in now after the last incident. Are Ala's / German Sheperds's allowed run free like that ? Just wondering, thinking of calling the dog warden for the above reasons, never mind the barking...
If it was any other neighbour I would approach for a quiet word, but this guy is locked out of his head every night and i'm afraid of him!

westdub

If the dogs are German shepard's then they are a restricted breed and not allowed out in a public place unless on a short lead and muzzled..

Control of dog.

5. A person shall not permit a dog to which these Regulations apply to be in a public place unless such dog is being led by means of a sufficiently strong chain or leash, not exceeding one metre in length, by a person over the age of sixteen years who is capable of controlling the said dog.


Muzzling.

6. A person shall not permit a dog to which these Regulations apply to be in a public place unless such dog is securely muzzled.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1991/en/si/0123.html

Just be aware that if you do report him then there is a chance that the dog's could be taken and put down, As a German Shepard owner myself I don't think it would be fair on the dogs to be punished for the owners stupidity.

Try asking a local garda to have a word with him about his dog control or get a copy of the Restricted breeds act and post in his letterbox as a reminder on how its his responsibility to control his dogs...

zef

Hi & thanks for your ideas. I have taken them on board. I am genuinely afraid of this guy, nervous to even post about it in case of any 'retribution'.
I am an animal lover, and would hate to be responsible for any dog being put down.
Last time I had dealings with the dog warden the animal (a 1 year old golden lab) was going to be pts by the owners because of its barking. Luckily got a friend with a farm to take him the night before his vets appt. I don't want any trouble, like getting in touch with the warden last time got me into. ( a big row with neighbours about a year of constant barking by their dog, who was out the back confined to a 6x 4 brick uncovered 'house' and literally went mental with the boredom.)
I would be afraid to go near his letterbox, he is there all day.
Never thought of ringing the gardai to 'have a word', thanks.

muppet01

JCabot wrote: »

I live in a little town where a serial crapper operates, many an evening I would step out of my office door to put my foot in a load left in center of the pavement. Only months after I moved did I finally indentified the culpriit with his jack russel. It doesn't bother me much anymore and hes well connected in the council offices so not sure what I can do about.

Was it him or the dog??????????????

zef

Have been in bed after a serious dental procedure the past 3 days so have not followed up with dog warden etc. I'm going to now though.
Last night the issue with these dogs really got to me. My 16 y.o. son was just checking the back gate & bins before going to bed, and while in the thin dividing alley between houses one of these huge dogs bounded up at him, i heard the yelp out of him from my bedroom and ran down thinking someone had attacked him. He was a bit shaken up after it.
I think these dogs are just an accident waiting to happen. The run amok and i know other neighbours on the road are elderly, or have toddlers , and might be a bit nervous of saying anything due to the owners demeanour.

JCabot

muppet01 wrote: »

Was it him or the dog??????????????

Oh it his dog and he is still doing it but now has 2 little scuts.

Honestly its not worth the hassel complaining to the council about him and if I ever did my life could become difficult.

ronan45

Wasnt in D15 but not far, where i work. I saw a man walking by with a dog and he threw a small bag into the lawn i assumed it was an old roll or somthing. Thought to myself liter lout and nothing more.
I had to cut the lawn a few days later.

Fair play to him he had picked up his dog crap... but had thrown the bag of chowder onto the lawn of where i work. lol
Cheers Mister:rolleyes:
see no evil

JCabot

ronan45 wrote: »

Wasnt in D15 but not far, where i work. I saw a man walking by with a dog and he threw a small bag into the lawn i assumed it was an old roll or somthing. Thought to myself liter lout and nothing more.
I had to cut the lawn a few days later.

Fair play to him he had picked up his dog crap... but had thrown the bag of chowder onto the lawn of where i work. lol
Cheers Mister:rolleyes:
see no evil

Most people who bother to pick up there dogs crap would put it in a bin if provided. I can understand him not wanting to carry it around with him for however long he is out so real problem is what does he do with it when collected. The council need to provide more public bins for this type of thing.

Heard a report today about how dirty it was on the approch roads to dublin airport and again its the same thing no bins provided. So apart from bringing rubbish home where exactly is it left. I live in rural Cork and we have a recycle center which you pay to enter and pay by weight for rubbish. Yet any evening when you look around the country side you see people burning rubbish because they are to mean to pay the charges to get rid of it.

markas

Dog owner all life, so I might be biased
Lack of BINS is the problem not that dogs do poo.
In most places there is much more human waste (paper/foil wrappings, cans, bottles, including boken glass, full bags of household refuse!, etc..) than dogs poo. I know this is not the topic, but having a blind eye on the bigger problem will not help.
Where should I ask about possibillity of mounting a waste bin near a gate? I can volunteer to emply it myself, but installing one requires a permission I guess.

Bunnyhopper

Jesus Shaves wrote: »

You're going to deny your kids the joy of owning a dog because you're afraid of a little dog poop?

:rolleyes:

I agree: some dog owners are selfish and irresponsible but that's no reason not to have a dog yourself.

Nonetheless, when it comes to those selfish, irresponsible owners it's worth mentioning that dog fouling (as the council politely puts it) is a particular health hazard for children. Fingal's website mentions this:

Dog fouling in public places is the biggest public nuisance created by irresponsible dog owners. It is noxious, dangerous and a source of diseases to humans including Toxocariasis (blindness in children) and Campylobacter (acute gastroenteritis).

Diddler1977

markas wrote: »

Dog owner all life, so I might be biased
Lack of BINS is the problem not that dogs do poo.
In most places there is much more human waste (paper/foil wrappings, cans, bottles, including boken glass, full bags of household refuse!, etc..) than dogs poo. I know this is not the topic, but having a blind eye on the bigger problem will not help.
Where should I ask about possibillity of mounting a waste bin near a gate? I can volunteer to emply it myself, but installing one requires a permission I guess.

What I would find useful rather then a bin on a gate is a box with plastic bags attached to peoples gates (if they were so inclined).

I pick up after my dog but I have forgotten to bring a bag with me occasionally. I have had to make do with things like a crisp bag I found on the ground or a piece of paper I found in my bag.

Where I used to live a neighbour did this and he always had spare plastic bags in a box on his gate - I think it would be very handy if you were caught short. It might also nudge people in the right direction to pick up if you have a lot of people in your area who don't pick up.

Just a thought.....

markas

Diddler1977 wrote: »

What I would find useful rather then a bin on a gate is a box with plastic bags attached to peoples gates (if they were so inclined).

Just a thought.....

yes, that is an option for some, but since I have a distance to walk/drive to the secluded places ...having a box outside or inside the home does not help much

I m thinking of these dog owners who do pick up the thing but drop it- with the bag of course, what makes thing worse, more permanent - just outside the park gates. I do not understand the rationale behind it, but I assume they would use a bin if it was there. I came to conclusion that the reason why there is no liiter bins in public places in general because of the costs involved in empying them. But thats rather stupid reason.. but what else?

JCabot

markas wrote: »

yes, that is an option for some, but since I have a distance to walk/drive to the secluded places ...having a box outside or inside the home does not help much

I m thinking of these dog owners who do pick up the thing but drop it- with the bag of course, what makes thing worse, more permanent - just outside the park gates. I do not understand the rationale behind it, but I assume they would use a bin if it was there. I came to conclusion that the reason why there is no liiter bins in public places in general because of the costs involved in empying them. But thats rather stupid reason.. but what else?

Having traveled a fair bit in France one notices how clean it really is compared to Ireland. The French take pride in there country and as a tourist there is always plenty of places to dispose of litter. They also have dogs everywhere and dont have as big a dog poo issue as we do.

I believe the main issue is the lack of bins provided what is the big issue with providing them? Some of the motorway rest stops in France provide skips. Is it the councils believe we will use the public bins for household waste ? Again you whould have to say why is this ? Is it because people feel they are over charged for the services provided already.

I know it appears I have gone off the subject but certaintly if bins were more available the dog poo issue would be less. As for the litter maybe we should be looking at the source of it and going after the manufactures of disposed litter. Whoevers name is on the packaging is responsible for its disposal.

BostonB

markas wrote: »

... I came to conclusion that the reason why there is no liiter bins in public places in general because of the costs involved in empying them. But thats rather stupid reason.. but what else?

Pay as you go bins...

markas

JCabot wrote: »

Having traveled a fair bit in France one notices how clean it really is compared to Ireland.

Yes, it is possible in other countries, not only in France (probably more pet friendly then others, btw).
It is a matter of regulations.. but first of all - of a culture.
And here we have two problems - careless attitute of dog owners (not different from general attidute to spoiling/vandalizing of public spaces), and lack of effective civil services (probably resulting from the first. who cares..)
Pushing resposibility to caring the least... how can it work

BostonB

Lack of bins isn't the problem. Its the owners responsibility as part of looking after a dog, is to clean up after them.

How you can compare using the pavement as a toliet with rubbish beyond me. Not that littering isn't a big problem aswell, but its a completely different issue.

sweeney1971

Many years ago when I lived in the City, I was lucky enough to have a lawn. Kept finding huge Turds every morning, even though I had a gate on the front. Watched out one night and saw this guy open our gate whilst his Doberman took a huge crap on my lawn. So followed him back to his house to see where he lived. Came back home loaded the turd in a brown envelope with the message 'You left this at my house' on it and posted it through the f**kers post box. Never saw him again.

On another note dog crap is all over Ireland in Towns and Cities. Cork was the worse and yes, people where actually walking in it then walking into shops!

jack presley

I'm more concerned with the broken bottles than with the dog poo.

markas

BostonB wrote: »

Lack of bins isn't the problem. Its the owners responsibility as part of looking after a dog, is to clean up after them.

How you can compare using the pavement as a toliet with rubbish beyond me. Not that littering isn't a big problem aswell, but its a completely different issue.

Well such attitude to rubbish problem is exactly what's beyond me
And I see a connection - if a young person is taught that some crisp bags, and later beer cans, cannot do any harm, how can they think a small poo can

Lack of litter bins in Ireland is a problem, sir!

BostonB

Exactly what attitude to rubbish? I said it was a problem. But a kid standing on a crisp bag and walking into your car carpet isn't the same scale of problem is it.

On our local green they couldn't keep up with the amount of rubbish going into the bin (and the overflow being dumped all over) and they removed the bins. The green has less litter on it though. If they don't have the resources what are they meant to do. Use Magic to create bins and service them? But in general the problem isn't bins. Its people having the social responsibility to bring their crud home.

BostonB

nomesc wrote: »

Anyone else fed up with the amount of dog dirt around. Can't go for a walk without telling the children "watch out for the poo" every couple of minutes. Anyone know if there is anything that can be done. Problem is really bad in Littlepace. Please dog owners clean up after your dogs

+1 its a real pain everywhere. But especially in the suburbs.