Title Vs Money

investment

which do you find more important....?

I know a few guys who make lots of money even though they dont have a great career title .... Tesco employee, builder, gardener etc

And I know a few guys who dont make much money but have a good career title eg Accountant, Teacher, Nurse etc

It would have to be the title for me..money comes and goes but a title earns you straight up respect

18AD

I will be a Doctor one day. And when that day comes I am going to take the absolute piss.

Dravokivich

Being financially responsible for myself, even if it means being a road sweeper.

HavingCrack

You know a builder who's still making lots of money

Galvasean

I was born a shelf stacker and I'll die a shelf stacker!

Jimmy Iovine

Dravokivich wrote: »

Being financially responsible for myself, even if it means being a road sweeper.

Trigger, is that you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbha4XclSMU

Dravokivich

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Trigger, is that you?

No Dave.

Jimmy Iovine

Dravokivich wrote: »

No Dave.

The exact answer I was hoping you'd give haha.

awec

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Dravokivich

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

The exact answer I was hoping you'd give haha.

Didn't have to view the vid either. My ole man was big into the show, so I've seen'em all.

awec

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Jimmy Iovine

I bought the box set for Christmas. Easily my best purchase in a good while. I've woken the house on many occasions laughing at it at 3/4 in the morning. Sheer class.

Pawwed Rig

Love that. It was the one show that my Dad used to roar laughing at (which was unusual for him:rolleyes:). I still catch the repeats everytime it is on when I am flicking.

To answer the OP I would have to go with the work as I had a high paying job and jacked it in to do something with very low wages that I thought I would enjoy doing more (jury is still out on that one).

Can we not have both??:D

WeeBushy

Galvasean wrote: »

I was born a shelf stacker and I'll die a shelf stacker!

I believe the correct title is 'presentation engineer'

i don't care about the "title" so much as whether the work is fulfilling and/or you're happy doing it
to a certain degree it's "gime the money", but no money is worth compromising your mental health for example

ToxicPaddy

The only title i ever worried was whatever title a former boss tried to give me when my pay review time came. He used to try and claim one thing which meant when comparing to the annual reviews done by various groups and showed the pay scales for each title.. I was actually bring overpaid..

However as I used to take great pleasur
e in pointing out, usually from his own correspondence and my contract, it was something completely different and on a much higher pay scale so it always ended up in me getting a decent payrise as I was meeting all my targets. Still makes me smile

boobar

The job has to pay the bills.

But I think it helps to enjoy it and have an interest in it.

I don't think titles mean much to be honest.

The Princess Bride

I had the permanent ,pensionable, respectable job,good salary 14 years,
( flo nightingale wannabe)- and the stress levels were so bad,I'd have cracked up if I'd stayed.

Now?
I work more hours,for less pay,with no long term security - but you know what?
I'm happy and I love what I do, and I'm good at it.

It doesn't matter about title or money,once you can enjoy it and switch off when you're not there.

yawha

Being a good person?

What is this thread?

18AD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I

cson

Would I rather be Dr cson or cson branson multi billionaire owner of cson enterprises?

I'll let you figure that one out yourself.

The Corinthian

One may have a preference for one or the other, but you cannot maintain either for long. Working in a job you love is great, but only if you can pay the bills with it, after all.

Always choosing 'the money' can backfire even financially. I knew a chap who did a Fas course 14 years ago, at the end of which he was offered to actually teach a similar course at a rate of £300 p.d. He chose this as it was better than a junior developer role which at that stage was anything between £12k and £18k p.a. But after dotcom bubble burst and the teaching dried up he found that he had to start from scratch all over again, while his former classmates were already on £30k to £50k p.a. and in a far better position to find or retain employment.

So within a profession, titles do mean something. If you forego a raise for a better job title, this can mean that your next job will look on you more seriously when you apply, thus resulting in a more senior and better paid role. If your occupation lends itself towards freelancing or contracting, a good strategy is to alternate between title and money; contract for a while and focus on the money, then go back into full time employment and concentrate on padding your CV for your next venture into contracting.

As for titles, in terms of profession, I'll have to say that some of the poorest people I know are barristers. Most earn a pittance. Same goes for many 'CEOs' - during recessions many can't even afford to pay themselves a salary.

investment

The Corinthian wrote: »

One may have a preference for one or the other, but you cannot maintain either for long. Working in a job you love is great, but only if you can pay the bills with it, after all.

Always choosing 'the money' can backfire even financially. I knew a chap who did a Fas course 14 years ago, at the end of which he was offered to actually teach a similar course at a rate of £300 p.d. He chose this as it was better than a junior developer role which at that stage was anything between £12k and £18k p.a. But after dotcom bubble burst and the teaching dried up he found that he had to start from scratch all over again, while his former classmates were already on £30k to £50k p.a. and in a far better position to find or retain employment.

So within a profession, titles do mean something. If you forego a raise for a better job title, this can mean that your next job will look on you more seriously when you apply, thus resulting in a more senior and better paid role. If your occupation lends itself towards freelancing or contracting, a good strategy is to alternate between title and money; contract for a while and focus on the money, then go back into full time employment and concentrate on padding your CV for your next venture into contracting.

As for titles, in terms of profession, I'll have to say that some of the poorest people I know are barristers. Most earn a pittance. Same goes for many 'CEOs' - during recessions many can't even afford to pay themselves a salary.

Great post...Money comes and goes but your name is with you forever

Sky King

Money. Preferably both though.

irishh_bob

investment wrote: »

which do you find more important....?

I know a few guys who make lots of money even though they dont have a great career title .... Tesco employee, builder, gardener etc

And I know a few guys who dont make much money but have a good career title eg Accountant, Teacher, Nurse etc

It would have to be the title for me..money comes and goes but a title earns you straight up respect

are you sure you dont need to do some rearranging there , any tesco employee , builder or gardner i know earns less than any accountant , teacher and nurse i know

fat__tony

How the **** would a builder earn lots of money in this day and age?

Do you mind explaining how the hell a tesco employee would earn anything near a teacher would? Its an unskilled position FFS.

What a crock of **** of a thread.

18AD

fat__tony wrote: »

How the **** would a builder earn lots of money in this day and age?

Do you mind explaining how the hell a tesco employee would earn anything near a teacher would? Its an unskilled position FFS.

What a crock of **** of a thread.

Bad Saturday? :pac:

The Corinthian

fat__tony wrote: »

How the **** would a builder earn lots of money in this day and age?

Do you mind explaining how the hell a tesco employee would earn anything near a teacher would? Its an unskilled position FFS.

There are many cases where a Tesco employee or builder could earn a lot of money (although far fewer for the latter in today's market). Additionally a career in such an area can have far more longer term options than one that appears more attractive in the short term.

A friend of mine got a job with Tesco (back when it was Quinsworth) when he finished his degree. We all thought he was mad. Yet, he instantly became a trainee manager and within five years was in a middle management position in their head office. He later left and moved into finance where he works now, for an international investment bank.

Now, he could have found himself in that same bank had he started in finance, but he would have been surrounded by peers with 2.1 and first-class honours degrees and spent the first few years of his career working 80 hour weeks. He took a less travelled road and got there all the same.

Of course, if you go into somewhere like Tesco and stack shelves with no ambition or ability to do else, then you'll never make a lot of money. However, there's money to be made everywhere and in an environment which is not considered 'sexy' in employment terms competition for advancement is far less cut-throat.

If you're lazy, stupid or lack imagination, then it really doesn't matter what job you go into, you'll get nowhere. Otherwise, look at the long term possibilities of a career, rather than the short-term 'sexiness' that comes with it.

investment

The Corinthian wrote: »

There are many cases where a Tesco employee or builder could earn a lot of money (although far fewer for the latter in today's market). Additionally a career in such an area can have far more longer term options than one that appears more attractive in the short term.

A friend of mine got a job with Tesco (back when it was Quinsworth) when he finished his degree. We all thought he was mad. Yet, he instantly became a trainee manager and within five years was in a middle management position in their head office. He later left and moved into finance where he works now, for an international investment bank.

Now, he could have found himself in that same bank had he started in finance, but he would have been surrounded by peers with 2.1 and first-class honours degrees and spent the first few years of his career working 80 hour weeks. He took a less travelled road and got there all the same.

Of course, if you go into somewhere like Tesco and stack shelves with no ambition or ability to do else, then you'll never make a lot of money. However, there's money to be made everywhere and in an environment which is not considered 'sexy' in employment terms competition for advancement is far less cut-throat.

If you're lazy, stupid or lack imagination, then it really doesn't matter what job you go into, you'll get nowhere. Otherwise, look at the long term possibilities of a career, rather than the short-term 'sexiness' that comes with it.

Well siad horse...

Red Hand

I don't have that much ambition to be more senior in my current "career". It's a job, not a career, for me, and is to pay the bills.

Then again, money doesn't interest me either, so it's just a job to survive on.

Galvasean

I have a job and a career. The job aint glamorous and is the very definition of 'dead end job' but it pays the bills while I work on my career (in film) which has the potential to be a big earner for me in the future but has very limited earning potential in the short term. A fine balancing act if you will. Still, I'd rather work for my few quid a week than get social welfare and be an 'artist' like so many do. I'll do that in my spare time.

grames_bond

I do believe that "if you enjoy your job you will never work a day in your life"! I don't get paid well but I hav a Job in the industry I studied in (something alot of people can't say) I am getting more responsibilities and the potential to grow! Realistically as long as you are happy amd you have reasonable quality of life that is all that should matter!

Galvasean

That's it. When your work and your play become the same thing you know you've succeeded at life.

P.C.

fat__tony wrote: »

How the **** would a builder earn lots of money in this day and age?

Do you mind explaining how the hell a tesco employee would earn anything near a teacher would? Its an unskilled position FFS.

What a crock of **** of a thread.

Tesco Trainee Managers start at around €25K per year.
Tesco Store Managers earn between €40K and €120K per year.

There are still some builders out there earning decent money - not many, but they are out there.

MagicMarker

I don't care about either, so long as I can live comfortably on my salary and I don't absolutely hate my job then I'm happy. Until of course I'm debt free, at which point I'll move to the Caribbean to live in a hut and live on fish I catch myself.

Capt'n Midnight

18AD wrote: »

I will be a Doctor one day. And when that day comes I am going to take the absolute piss.

Did he call me Len again? You address me by my proper title, you little bollocks!

tfromkerry

surely it must be title as its pride that take.s it place , money can be made and spent by every one , but only certain people can do certain jobs

Capt'n Midnight

if you have enough money you can buy titles, unless you're Mohamed Al-Fayed

SpannerMonkey

investment wrote: »

which do you find more important....?

I know a few guys who make lots of money even though they dont have a great career title .... Tesco employee, builder, gardener etc

And I know a few guys who dont make much money but have a good career title eg Accountant, Teacher, Nurse etc

It would have to be the title for me..money comes and goes but a title earns you straight up respect

are you serious ???
nobody respects a title anymore its not the 40s you know


im a Fitter , basically a mechanic for industial machinery , im lucky that i actually like my job and the pay is very good i have no stress, when i finish work i get no calls at home , , i have a nice house and a nice car , i have money to spare to go on holidays or do what i want (i know im one lucky bollix )

2 of my mates are engineers one on about 26k a year the oher on 35k , they are stressed to the hilt and hate their jobs, they are expected to work back for free for up to 20 hours a week if the work needs to be done .
my sister did a PHD and works in a Lab shes on 38k a year , she likes it so thats great

now thay have title and a decent pay check, but im on more than twice what any of them are on , why would you choose title (that nobody other than you gives a toss about) over a job you like and money

Pawwed Rig

SpannerMonkey wrote: »

are you serious ???
nobody respects a title anymore its not the 40s you know


im a Fitter , basically a mechanic for industial machinery , im lucky that i actually like my job and the pay is very good i have no stress, when i finish work i get no calls at home , , i have a nice house and a nice car , i have money to spare to go on holidays or do what i want (i know im one lucky bollix )

2 of my mates are engineers one on about 26k a year the oher on 35k , they are stressed to the hilt and hate their jobs, they are expected to work back for free for up to 20 hours a week if the work needs to be done .
my sister did a PHD and works in a Lab shes on 38k a year , she likes it so thats great

now thay have title and a decent pay check, but im on more than twice what any of them are on , why would you choose title (that nobody other than you gives a toss about) over a job you like and money

I am sure he is serious. If you are happy in your job that is great and I am sure we are all happy for you. However there are a good amount of people who strive to reach their potential in life which may not always be a 9-5 job that you can forget about once you go home.

Our colleges are full of people who study hard to better themselves and their situation. I went back to college and studied for 4 years to get a job at 40% of the wages i had previously and have to say I am happier with my life since I did it

SpannerMonkey

ah i dont mean it negatively i did say its better to have a job you enjoy than a title , i too went back to college for years and years and i now have a degree in manufacturing technology and a seperate degree in Electrical Technology aswell as a few other diplomas and certs, if you had said to me at 17 that id have 2 degrees id have laughed i hated school but now i enjoy learning what i want to learn instead of what i was forced to learn in school

i wasnt slagging anyone for going after their dreams , id heavily promote it:cool:
id rather see my friends and family in a poor paying low titled job they love, than a high payed executive job they hate. thats all i ment

investment

SpannerMonkey wrote: »

ah i dont mean it negatively i did say its better to have a job you enjoy than a title , i too went back to college for years and years and i now have a degree in manufacturing technology and a seperate degree in Electrical Technology aswell as a few other diplomas and certs, if you had said to me at 17 that id have 2 degrees id have laughed i hated school but now i enjoy learning what i want to learn instead of what i was forced to learn in school

i wasnt slagging anyone for going after their dreams , id heavily promote it:cool:
id rather see my friends and family in a poor paying low titled job they love, than a high payed executive job they hate. thats all i ment

Even though you're a spanner and a bit of a monkey your post made sense