Again, etc. [SU Elections '12]

blubloblu

blubloblu wrote: »

POLLING LOCATIONS

Campus (Arts Block and Hamilton): Tuesday 14th Feb: 12-6
Wednesday 15th Feb: 9-7
Thursday 16th Feb: 9-4

D'Olier Street (Nursing Building): Tuesday 14th Feb: 10-1
Wednesday 15th Feb: 10-1

St. James' Hospital: Monday 13th Feb: 12-3

Tallaght Hospital: Monday 13th Feb: 10-1

Trinity Hall (JCR Canteen): Monday 13th Feb 7.30 pm onwards

Marino: Wednesday 15th Feb 1-2

CICE: Thursday 9th Feb 1-2

Froebel: Tuesday 14th Feb 1-2

Thanks. Quite surprised that I haven't received any of the dates by e-mail (yet?).

Mark200

Dónal wrote: »

blubloblu wrote: »

POLLING LOCATIONS

Campus (Arts Block and Hamilton): Tuesday 14th Feb: 12-6
Wednesday 15th Feb: 9-7
Thursday 16th Feb: 9-4

D'Olier Street (Nursing Building): Tuesday 14th Feb: 10-1
Wednesday 15th Feb: 10-1

St. James' Hospital: Monday 13th Feb: 12-3

Tallaght Hospital: Monday 13th Feb: 10-1

Trinity Hall (JCR Canteen): Monday 13th Feb 7.30 pm onwards

Marino: Wednesday 15th Feb 1-2

CICE: Thursday 9th Feb 1-2

Froebel: Tuesday 14th Feb 1-2

Thanks. Quite surprised that I haven't received any of the dates by e-mail (yet?).

They were sent out in an SU email

Mark200

Mark200 wrote: »

They were sent out in an SU email

...which are sent to undergrads@tcd.ie only (assuming it hasn't changed since 2007!). Not even a mention in any GSU e-mail about the elections at all that I can see.

Which, on the face of it, seems particularly impressive that someone neglected to e-mail the polling times (or the fact to alert students that there's an election going on) to what, 25% of the electorate?

Anyways, if someone could post up an SU e-mail with details of candidates, that'd be great too.

tanora78

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Mark200

Dónal wrote: »

...which are sent to undergrads@tcd.ie only (assuming it hasn't changed since 2007!). Not even a mention in any GSU e-mail about the elections at all that I can see.

Ah right sorry, thought they went to postgrads too!

Mark200

Mark200 wrote: »

Ah right sorry, thought they went to postgrads too!

No bother.

Just received another e-mail there today from the GSU - sent at 12pm. Call for peer reviewers of the Journal of Postgraduate Research. Still no mention of the elections, interesting.

asdfghjz

Kudos to whoever designed the posters encourages you to vote, they're Neat.

gaeilgeboy

Dónal wrote: »

Still no mention of the elections, interesting.

The SU only have access to the undergrad email addresses and the GSU only have access to the postgrad email addresses. The GSU President gets the SU weekly email, but I would've been surprised if they'd mentioned anything about the elections. They tend to distance themselves from anything SU related, even if it relates to postgrads.

gaeilgeboy

gaeilgeboy wrote: »

The SU only have access to the undergrad email addresses and the GSU only have access to the postgrad email addresses. The GSU President gets the SU weekly email, but I would've been surprised if they'd mentioned anything about the elections. They tend to distance themselves from anything SU related, even if it relates to postgrads.

I'd have expected a representative of postgraduate students to inform those students what their entitlements are, and in this instance what their voting entitlements are. The GSU know they are the only ones who can inform postgrads of these elections, yet they do not. I simply don't understand it, other than it looking like the GSU are deliberately setting out to not inform students of their right to vote. They are quite happy to mention deals for food in the SU shops in the e-mails, but not the SU elections.

An e-mail I received back from the GSU President (very quickly, to her credit) outlined the following:

Dear Donal,

Thank you for your mail. I will be letting postgraduates know at Council. As far as the email, we will not be advertising for the Students' Union. It is the SU's responsibility to advertise to all members.

The GSU is the only body recognized by Trinity that represents only postgraduates.

Perhaps you should contact the SU on this or with your permission, I can forward this to the SU president.

Kind Regards,
Mary

gaeilgeboy

Dónal wrote: »

I'd have expected a representative of postgraduate students to inform those students what their entitlements are, and in this instance what their voting entitlements are. The GSU know they are the only ones who can inform postgrads of these elections, yet they do not. I simply don't understand it, other than it looking like the GSU are deliberately setting out to not inform students of their right to vote.

I get the impression that they just don't want to do anything on behalf of the SU. I mean, the SU have no other way of contacting the postgrads specifically, bar postering, via newspapers, etc, despite the fact that postgrads can vote in their elections.

They are quite happy to mention deals for food in the SU shops in the e-mails, but not the SU elections.

They only started mentioning that after last Council when someone asked Mary to include it in the emails.

Ahoyhoy

gaeilgeboy wrote: »

I get the impression that they just don't want to do anything on behalf of the SU.

That's a stupid attitude (from the GSU, not you gaeilgeboy), surely they're meant to be serving their constituents. Telling them what parts of college are available to them is their job, surely an SU vote (trivial as it is) is one of those things? It sounds like petty wannabe politics. Also according to a statement in UT today the SU gives them €10,000 a year. Would it kill the GSU to send an e-mail? I wonder if there's any proper rational behind the decision. I also wonder if the SU has even bothered asking them to send one.

bythewoods

According to the University Times twitter feed:
President: Dunne
Education: Daniel Ferrick
Ents: Whelan
Welfare: Aisling Ni Chonahoweverthe****youspellhername
Communication: Cabbage

Disappointed neither of the James' got it, they're good lads. But shur what can you do I guess.

gaeilgeboy

I know the elections are over, but to reply:

Ahoyhoy wrote: »

Would it kill the GSU to send an e-mail? I wonder if there's any proper rational behind the decision. I also wonder if the SU has even bothered asking them to send one.

In an email Martin McAndrew sent to a friend of mine:

As for the elections, while noone denies that PGs can sit, act and vote in SU elections. But SU elections are not a GSU affair. We don't advertise CSC general meetings, we don't send out calls for submissions to Pubs' journals. It was on this basis that the GSU executive committee were unwilling to allow an email to go forward about it despite the President raising the issue early on in the SU election campaign, and my supporting it. Sabbatical officers are obliged to follow the decisions of the exec.

gaeilgeboy

gaeilgeboy wrote: »

I know the elections are over, but to reply:



In an email Martin McAndrew sent to a friend of mine:

For all the energy it took to not publicise the SU elections it would have been remarkably easy to let people know. Ah well.