IDFPA Single Lifts

COH

Any results?

Hanley

COH wrote: »

Any results?

You c*nt. I was opening this hoping you were giving results.

Nervous Wreck

Reckon someone's gonna give Vis an award for his pisstakingly high opener of 285kg. Unbelievable. Deads are still going.

the drifter

keep us posted

daveyc21

Great competition huge amount of people down. Lots of highlights for Ironside. We had 6 first timers competing. One of our guys won the under 90kg deadlift just pipping vis vires from here I believe. A couple of other guys winning their classes and a couple of records in there. The highlight for me was seeing James Hickey pull a huge 320kg deadlift! Well organised with very little stoppages and a great starting point for any new lifter.

the drifter

what weight was james hickey?

Nervous Wreck

This is how I got on anyway. Taken from my log just there:

Today - IDFPAs. Got 2.5 hours sleep last night. Exhausted.

Squat
First lift - 130kg
Second lift - 140kg
Third lift - 150kg

Bench
First lift - 80kg
Second lift - 90kg
Third lift - 95kg

100kg defo woulda been there.

Deadlift
First lift - 150kg
Second lift - 160kg
Third lift - 170kg

Brian?

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

This is how I got on anyway. Taken from my log just there:

Fair play horse. First comp?

gymfreak

daveyc21 wrote: »

Great competition huge amount of people down. Lots of highlights for Ironside. We had 6 first timers competing. One of our guys won the under 90kg deadlift just pipping vis vires from here I believe. A couple of other guys winning their classes and a couple of records in there. The highlight for me was seeing James Hickey pull a huge 320kg deadlift! Well organised with very little stoppages and a great starting point for any new lifter.

Dave, what numbers did the girls post? Come on...you knew Id be asking:D:D Have to scope out my competition

Nervous Wreck

briankeating wrote: »

Fair play horse. First comp?

Yep! Was hoping for a 400kg total and managed 415 so I'm chuffed!

Hanley

Heard thru the grapevine there was 120-140 ppl lifting yesterday. Unreal!! What time did lifting finish?

Nervous Wreck

Bout 8:30ish. I left at 8:15 and they were on the last few deadlifts at that stage. Probably about 6 people left to lift.

J-Fit

I though the arse had fallen out of the IDFPA? Obviously not based on those lifter numbers and if there are guys pulling 320kg+, it must still be a competitive environment?

Skull

J-Fit wrote: »

I though the arse had fallen out of the IDFPA? Obviously not based on those lifter numbers and if there are guys pulling 320kg+, it must still be a competitive environment?

Stronger than ever in every sense. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Skull

daveyc21 wrote: »

Great competition huge amount of people down. Lots of highlights for Ironside. We had 6 first timers competing. One of our guys won the under 90kg deadlift just pipping vis vires from here I believe. A couple of other guys winning their classes and a couple of records in there. The highlight for me was seeing James Hickey pull a huge 320kg deadlift! Well organised with very little stoppages and a great starting point for any new lifter.

James Hickey is a beast, he went for 325kg after that but couldn't budge it. He wasn't helped for the fact it was after 8pm but this was down to sheer volume of lifters. Whoever runs this Comp next year will have to run 2 platforms and I hope the guys in Killarney do that for this years 3 lift nationals.

Your lad Rob is one of the most talented guys I've seen for a long time, he still seemed to be lifting within himself. Anthony's the type to welcome a challenge like that so hopefully we'll get to see a few more battles.

fullback4glin

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Yep! Was hoping for a 400kg total and managed 415 so I'm chuffed!

Well done. What weight did you compete in?

Nervous Wreck

fullback4glin wrote: »

Well done. What weight did you compete in?

Cheers! Competed in the 82.5kg category. Coulda stood a chance at placing if I'd dropped 2.5kg and gotten under 75kg so I might actually make that effort neext time!

Hanley

http://www.idfpa.plus.com/Irish_Single_Lifts_2012.pdf

I see Anto only got pipped because he didn't play it safe and chase another medal. Fair Play to him for attempting to pull the trigger on something huge!!

JayRoc

I hear they tested some fella so full of drugs his hair turned green.

itsallaboutheL

JayRoc wrote: »

I hear they tested some fella so full of drugs his hair turned green.

I heard his calves were so small that they immediately returned a negative sample on his test.

Nervous Wreck

It took him 45 minutes to complete his piss test. Roughly the same amount of time to complete his last squat. :pac:

Skull

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-LOsGtXOLU

One of our best powerlifters James Hickey breaking a World record in Gorey, one of the highlights of the day.

Hanley

Skull wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-LOsGtXOLU

One of our best powerlifters James Hickey breaking a World record in Gorey, one of the highlights of the day.

Did he squat and squat and bench too? How'd he get on?

Nervous Wreck

Hanley wrote: »

Did he squat and squat and bench too? How'd he get on?

Squatted 210 and benched 160. I didn't see them but the deadlift really was great to see. Made it look easy.

daveyc21

Hanley wrote: »

http://www.idfpa.plus.com/Irish_Single_Lifts_2012.pdf

I see Anto only got pipped because he didn't play it safe and chase another medal. Fair Play to him for attempting to pull the trigger on something huge!!

Normally I wouldn't bother but this is a thinly veiled attempt to belittle Rob's achievement in the single lifts because he is a member of Ironside. I'm not trying to play down Anthony's talent he is a super lifter and of course I admire him going for the 302.5kg record but that 285kg was clearly supposed to get him the medal. Even by his standards it wasn't a modest opener. I'm sure on the day Anthony could have beaten him but he didn't on the day and I think this is a testament to Rob rather a blot against Anthony.

Its also hypocritical that someone who has referred to himself as one of Ireland's top young powerlifters on boards in his first competition at the same age and in the same weight class as Rob lifted nearly 100kg less yet can't recognise how significant the lift was.

The fact is that Rob has buckets more athletic ability than you, me or pretty much anyone else in the population. He doesn't take his training too seriously yet is under 10% bodyfat all year round, runs a sub 11 second 100m squats mid 200's deadlifts close to 300 benches around 150, has a 58" box jump and can do burpee backflips of all things!

Nervous Wreck

daveyc21 wrote: »

but that 285kg was clearly supposed to get him the medal

Just on this part, I don't really know Anthony but I've seen him train in Raw plenty and I genuinely don't think that's true. Especially recently, I've seen him lift huge numbers and I'm pretty sure he was aiming to just outdo himself more than anything else.

That being said, I despise him and Rob for their stupid naturally abilities. Cunts.

daveyc21

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Just on this part, I don't really know Anthony but I've seen him train in Raw plenty and I genuinely don't think that's true. Especially recently, I've seen him lift huge numbers and I'm pretty sure he was aiming to just outdo himself more than anything else.

That being said, I despise him and Rob for their stupid naturally abilities. Cunts.

I dont pretend to know what Anthony was thinking but in general if your specifically targeting a record especially a world record you generally wouldnt lift 93% of it as your opener. Taking James Hickey as an example. He pulled that 320kg world record as his second attempt the same attempt as Anthony. His opener was 280kg. I did reasonably the same when going for my world record. I pulled 220 as my opener and 242.5 as my record attempt. My thoughts would be and again I'm not saying your argument is any less plausible is that Anthony had a look at the openers and who was there and said right 285 to win it and then 302.5 for the record (which was impressively close btw). Could be completely wrong and wait to stand corrected!

Skull

Hanley wrote: »

Did he squat and squat and bench too? How'd he get on?

You posted the results.

_JOE_

daveyc21 wrote: »

I dont pretend to know what Anthony was thinking but in general if your specifically targeting a record especially a world record you generally wouldnt lift 93% of it as your opener. Taking James Hickey as an example. He pulled that 320kg world record as his second attempt the same attempt as Anthony. His opener was 280kg. I did reasonably the same when going for my world record. I pulled 220 as my opener and 242.5 as my record attempt. My thoughts would be and again I'm not saying your argument is any less plausible is that Anthony had a look at the openers and who was there and said right 285 to win it and then 302.5 for the record (which was impressively close btw). Could be completely wrong and wait to stand corrected!

Wrong.

The last 4 comps he competed in he opened at 280kg +. There's no real rationale behind opening low if you're 100% confident at hitting your opener. And to be honest I don't really think the "record" meant all that much to him. It was his own record. Based on his recent training in the weeks prior to this comp the 302.5 should have been easy. It was actually his third attempt he was focusing on.

I think he's more disappointed with not hitting his own targets than placing or winning on the day. Cutting weight took more of an effect than he factored. He'll have to learn from it and come back stronger.

Hanley

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Squatted 210 and benched 160. I didn't see them but the deadlift really was great to see. Made it look easy.

Dammit.. I was hoping he’d at least have a sh*t bench with a good DL.

daveyc21 wrote: »

Normally I wouldn't bother but this is a thinly veiled attempt to belittle Rob's achievement in the single lifts because he is a member of Ironside. I'm not trying to play down Anthony's talent he is a super lifter and of course I admire him going for the 302.5kg record but that 285kg was clearly supposed to get him the medal. Even by his standards it wasn't a modest opener. I'm sure on the day Anthony could have beaten him but he didn't on the day and I think this is a testament to Rob rather a blot against Anthony.

Dave, please keep that tinfoil hat on. Any lad pulling 285 as a 20 year old at that weight has my respect and envy.

Its also hypocritical that someone who has referred to himself as one of Ireland's top young powerlifters on boards in his first competition at the same age and in the same weight class as Rob lifted nearly 100kg less yet can't recognise how significant the lift was.

Where did I say it was insignificant? But thanks for trying to paint me as the bad guy. And I didn’t lift in my first comp at that age, or weight. But hey, if you’re gonna try and paint me as something I’m not, may as well go at it with both barrels.

The fact is that Rob has buckets more athletic ability than you, me or pretty much anyone else in the population. He doesn't take his training too seriously yet is under 10% bodyfat all year round, runs a sub 11 second 100m squats mid 200's deadlifts close to 300 benches around 150, has a 58" box jump and can do burpee backflips of all things!

That’s brilliant. He’s obviously a very talented lad. There’s few fantastically talented lifters and athletes knocking about at the moment.

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Just on this part, I don't really know Anthony but I've seen him train in Raw plenty and I genuinely don't think that's true. Especially recently, I've seen him lift huge numbers and I'm pretty sure he was aiming to just outdo himself more than anything else.

I would have said this tbh. I won’t speak for him but I know he’s pulled significantly more than that in competition and probably didn’t just want to play it safe for a medal.

daveyc21 wrote: »

I dont pretend to know what Anthony was thinking but in general if your specifically targeting a record especially a world record you generally wouldnt lift 93% of it as your opener. Taking James Hickey as an example. He pulled that 320kg world record as his second attempt the same attempt as Anthony. His opener was 280kg. I did reasonably the same when going for my world record. I pulled 220 as my opener and 242.5 as my record attempt. My thoughts would be and again I'm not saying your argument is any less plausible is that Anthony had a look at the openers and who was there and said right 285 to win it and then 302.5 for the record (which was impressively close btw). Could be completely wrong and wait to stand corrected!

Or maybe he wanted to have a reasonable jump to the record attempt. Maybe he didn’t want to waste energy warming up and take his last warm up on the platform, maybe there’s a million and one different reasons for it. Would you disagree that 7% between attempts is a reasonable jump to make? We’ve all seen Anto smash 290+. I’m sure 285 wouldn’t normally kill him. Maybe the long day played into it. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

Skull wrote: »

You posted the results.

I did, but I didn’t fully examine them or commit the results to memory.

Hanley

_JOE_ wrote: »

Wrong.

The last 4 comps he competed in he opened at 280kg +. There's no real rationale behind opening low if you're 100% confident at hitting your opener. And to be honest I don't really think the "record" meant all that much to him. It was his own record. Based on his recent training in the weeks prior to this comp the 302.5 should have been easy. It was actually his third attempt he was focusing on.

I think he's more disappointed with not hitting his own targets than placing or winning on the day. Cutting weight took more of an effect than he factored. He'll have to learn from it and come back stronger.

Delighted to have this input.

the drifter

daveyc21 infraction for breach of the peace. Thread reopened. Please dont let this take away the achievements of either lifter and personally I think petty bickering over why X pulled this is childish and does nothing for the sport. Here you have two lifters pulling over 300kg and were fighting over why they opened on 280kg and what medal they got.

Skull

Hopefully Rob and Anto will go at it down in Cork next month, that'd be worth seeing or in France at the world single lifts. Anyway good for Anthony to have some real competition now and as I said before he's the type of guy that would welcome it. I also hope that Rob sticks with the powerlifting as by the sounds of it he could do any sport he wants.

d'Oracle

Skull wrote: »

Hopefully Rob and Anto will go at it down in Cork next month, that'd be.

That would be a nice little event for the first Deadlift Champs alright.

the drifter

10th Mar : Deadlift Champs - Co. Cork anyone got a venue? Corks only down the road :P

d'Oracle

Its in Bandon according to the forum.

the drifter

d'Oracle wrote: »

Its in Bandon according to the forum.

ok thats not just down the road :P

Skull

d'Oracle wrote: »

That would be a nice little event for the first Deadlift Champs alright.

Another good one would be James Hickey against James O Connell, I know O Connell has been concentrating on his deadlift lately.

itsallaboutheL

So what's the story with the ban on people competing if involved with non-tested organisations?

VIS VIRES

daveyc21 wrote: »

I dont pretend to know what Anthony was thinking but in general if your specifically targeting a record especially a world record you generally wouldnt lift 93% of it as your opener. Taking James Hickey as an example. He pulled that 320kg world record as his second attempt the same attempt as Anthony. His opener was 280kg. I did reasonably the same when going for my world record. I pulled 220 as my opener and 242.5 as my record attempt. My thoughts would be and again I'm not saying your argument is any less plausible is that Anthony had a look at the openers and who was there and said right 285 to win it and then 302.5 for the record (which was impressively close btw). Could be completely wrong and wait to stand corrected!

I gave my opening weight at 8am that morning. I didnt know who was competing or what their opening lift was going to be!

I have pulled 280kg x5 that opener should have been nothing..

My second lift 302.5kg is a weight i've done for a double before..


Medals and records mean nothing me. I lift against myself. My only goal is to improve everytime i compete..


I could sit here and give a list of reasons why i had a bad day but i'm not going to. It was my own fault and its something i'll learn from..

gymfreak

I find this whole 'record' obsession really really odd. I'm ALL for PRs...absolutely LOVE beating MY numbers..but really couldn't care less about records. Reason being, that there are faaaar too many powerlifting federations out there..which creates faaar too many records...which means that generally the records for each federation are going to be mainly different numbers cos of different members...which means...essentially a WR isn't really a WR if someone else can lift heavier???? Makes absolutely no sense to me!

Hell, if I wanted I could run around all the feds and see how many records I could clock up myself. Thing is..cos there are hardly any girls competing, it's pretty damn easy to get a record...so one really needs to be realistic...just cos you have a WR it really means F all..Anto is right..it's all about getting stronger, beating your own PRs and not getting hung up on this whole record malark. That's why I'm absolutely shocked how this thread blew up..and that Anto had to come on and kinda 'explain' his bad day when it really is none of our business'.


/Rant over...I apologise

Hanley

gymfreak wrote: »

I find this whole 'record' obsession really really odd. I'm ALL for PRs...absolutely LOVE beating MY numbers..but really couldn't care less about records. Reason being, that there are faaaar too many powerlifting federations out there..which creates faaar too many records...which means that generally the records for each federation are going to be mainly different numbers cos of different members...which means...essentially a WR isn't really a WR if someone else can lift heavier???? Makes absolutely no sense to me!

Hell, if I wanted I could run around all the feds and see how many records I could clock up myself. Thing is..cos there are hardly any girls competing, it's pretty damn easy to get a record...so one really needs to be realistic...just cos you have a WR it really means F all..Anto is right..it's all about getting stronger, beating your own PRs and not getting hung up on this whole record malark. That's why I'm absolutely shocked how this thread blew up..and that Anto had to come on and kinda 'explain' his bad day when it really is none of our business'.


/Rant over...I apologise

You're like a little mini me. So proud.

You've pretty much nailed the difference between the actual lifters and the glory hunters.

The records and all that are nice, but the talent pool is so shallow that a lot of the time it's not actually representative of any real standard. There's literally hundreds if not thousands of lifters out there worldwide capable of breaking the "world" records people celebrate. Anyone claiming to be the best in the world in that situation and using it to boast is pretty pathetic and is srsly lacking in perspective IMO.

And before anyone starts bitching, you can f*ck off. I've dedicated more time and effort, and given up more than over 99% of the population posting on here for PL. I've been moderately successful competing, and done an ok job coaching so far, and have done as much as possible online to make the sport more popular in Ireland, even if that wasn't a lot.

I've perspective here so before ppl start accusing me of cheapening others accomplishments, get over yourself. I respect anyone with the guts to train and get on the Platform. I do not respect ppl who cherry pick events and records to be a legend in their own back yard.

I care about it and where it's going as a legitimate sport, not somewhere for pumped up trainers to write cool things about their athletes records on their website, and if anyone doesn't like it, they can kiss my ass because I've seen how its gone in the last 7 years and it's only getting worse.

And believe it or not, I do love PL and am not specifically talking about Ironside or any individual lifter above. If I wanted to call out anyone specifically, I would. Anyone posting here more than a week knows that. And for those who still choose just not to believe me, Please review the "kiss my ass comment" above.

Edwardius

This thread is about the IDFPA single lifts not your opinion on records, start another thread if you want to talk about it, back on topic...

d'Oracle

From talking to people tonight, it seems a couple of the lads who entered had a real buzz and would be keen to go again.
A fella who entered the Deadlift and did pretty well seemed very interested when I told him about the Deadlift champs in May.

kevpants

Thought I was reading powerliftingwatch for a second there. Nice to see the "James Hanley mentioned someone... let's get him!"culture is still active in powerlifting even if he isn't.

What's with all the kids who can pull more plates than they have pubes? A 250kg deadlift is nothing anymore.

Nervous Wreck

kevpants wrote: »

Thought I was reading powerliftingwatch for a second there. Nice to see the "James Hanley mentioned someone... let's get him!"culture is still active in powerlifting even if he isn't.

What's with all the kids who can pull more plates than they have pubes? A 250kg deadlift is nothing anymore.

Fuck.

daveyc21

Bringing it back to topic -

daveyc21

Just to give an indication of the crowd that was there for the day.

Skull

daveyc21 wrote: »

Bringing it back to topic -

Absolutely brilliant.

Hopefully he'll stick with the powerlifting, look forward to seeing him compete again.

token

He looks a bit like Clarence. They musta been separated at birth. One did powerlifting and one did weightlifting. It's like watching JCVD in Double Impact.

Skull

http://www.bdfpa.co.uk/results/2012/2012SingleEventResults.pdf

BDFPA results from the weekend in case anyone wants to check out some of the competition before going to France.